I want to see a skype client for this thing and that way we can make free VOIP calls over wifi. Will java run on this thing. Not CLDC stuff, I'm talking the full JSE with Java3D. What about games? Can you imagen a racing game where you use the acceloromiters to steer the car?
Java is more than just a language. It is an API, byte code and VM. The API is designed for scaleablity and the HotSpot VM was designed to improve performance of compiled code as it is being run.
Aaaah but you forget the OTHER office application.
KOffice run well on OSX using fink or the other linux@OSX distributions. I can't wait for KDE 3.1 to run on OSX.
OSX+OS(kde+gnu+gnome+X....) = ME+:)
on a side note I want linksys to make a a box with exportable X session or VNC session running linux. The only difference from what they sell now and what I'm talking about is a harddrive and a beefier processor. I'ld pay for a linux applience for 100bucks.
You are way off base here. I have been using linux since '93 and saw all of the great advances in Window Manager design. Going from TWM -> FVWM -> elightnment -> windowmaker each went far and away improvements to usability and features. OSX is now my favorite UNIX desktop. It takes windowmaker and nextstep to another level. Plus it is all scriptable with applescript. Applescipt is like having shellscript for GUI... very slick. As for performance every new iteration of 10.1.x releases have shown alot improvements, evem on older hardware.
StarOffice is written in JAVA? Mr Deignan come on
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".... KOffice is natively compiled for the machine platform on which it is executing, whereas StarOffice is a Java-based application. This means KOffice responds much faster and is less memory-intensive than StarOffice... "
Do a little research. Just a little. From staroffice faq
Is StarOffice 5.2 software written in the Java language? Will Sun rewrite the StarOffice suite in Java technology?
"... the majority of the StarOffice 5.2 code is written in C++. Sun does not intend to rewrite StarOffice 5.2 in Java technology..."
Java is so slow that everything sun makes is crawls because of it. Mr Deignan believes everything his MS marketing rep. tells him.
Lets get things clear here. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COPY CONTROL. Just put a mic next to a speaker and poof the music is recorded. They need to just get over the fact that people will do what they want with what they own.
well it was really the flash wrapping a copper cable around the earth a few times. You see the earth was in danger of getting to hot because these aliens wanted to move here. The earths climate was too temperate so they move it closer to the sun. Then the ultra cool yet anoyingly corny flash did his thing.
Make a game platform based on Java or Linux. Update the platform every 1-2 years to alow for newer technologies.
If they were to take the lead on the JCP(Java Community Process) and develope the API for the game profile then they can get out of the hardware business and focus on making great games that will run on things from cellphones to TVs to PCs.
If they would make a GPLed openGL based gaming api for linux they would be able to run all of there games on practicaly any machine.
"I would really like to know who 'doesn't deserve' some form of welfare system for unfortnate situations"
The ones who steals from those who have. Just because someone does not one to give their hard earned money to an ineffective and moraly corrupt government does't mean that they will not give to charity. I believe in people. I believe people with money will give to charities. I'm not rich but I give money to charities.
Nobody is saying that the poor do not need assistance. Its just that the government is not the way to do it. Give prople the chance to show how good they are and they will suprise you. If you didn't know... the ratio of givings to charity is directly proportional to how well the economy is doing.
Social policy
- Social Darwinism (better word?): a social policy believing that people are responsible for their own welfare with no governmental assistance.
- Socialism: a social policy which espouses that a government has some responsibility for the welfare of its people.
This is wrong if your going to say Social Darwinism is no governmental assistance. Then you must say Socialism is a policy in which people's welfare is the responsability of the government.
and
I think people know the difference between Germany and USSR.
You CAN make changes. You get the source code. You CAN redistribute. You just can't make any money on the software without giveing SUN royalties. ie it accomplishes the same as the GPL Free source code and freely share with you friends your changes. As far as using code for other projects... If you use enought of the Star office code base you do owe the creaters something back. This model is much better than the MS.. you don't have any rights.
Please get you facts strait expecialy the first one. It just make you look like a FUD spreader.
The license compels you to make your software free and open source. Any modifications that are made to the software must be published if it is to be used for profit. It is very GPLish in the way that it forces openess to people who use the software.
Bring it on. I know that you don't need the kernal patched anymore to use it. But from what I understand, KGIcon works better when it is. I hope that future distos will include it.
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Like farnsworth I think the reporting of this is kind of sensational. Is it a coincidence that if you add up the 3 groups % you get ~100%?
This looks like a headline grab playing games with %.
I want to see a skype client for this thing and that way we can make free VOIP calls over wifi.
Will java run on this thing. Not CLDC stuff, I'm talking the full JSE with Java3D.
What about games? Can you imagen a racing game where you use the acceloromiters to steer the car?
What hasn't been mentioned is the smart folders will always keep you directories uptodate. No more drag and droping files after I download them.
The question is will I be able to make smart folders based on permissions I give on my files so that I can share them on my network.
weo
W did not choose Navada. That choice was made long ago.
Java is more than just a language. It is an API, byte code and VM. The API is designed for scaleablity and the HotSpot VM was designed to improve performance of compiled code as it is being run.
www.theswingconnection.com
has a ton of great swing apps.
my favorites are intellij from idea, limewire and the World Cup MatchCast Applet priceless!
Aaaah but you forget the OTHER office application.
KOffice run well on OSX using fink or the other linux@OSX distributions. I can't wait for KDE 3.1 to run on OSX.
OSX+OS(kde+gnu+gnome+X....) = ME+:)
on a side note I want linksys to make a a box with exportable X session or VNC session running linux. The only difference from what they sell now and what I'm talking about is a harddrive and a beefier processor. I'ld pay for a linux applience for 100bucks.
weo
You are way off base here. I have been using linux since '93 and saw all of the great advances in Window Manager design. Going from TWM -> FVWM -> elightnment -> windowmaker each went far and away improvements to usability and features. OSX is now my favorite UNIX desktop. It takes windowmaker and nextstep to another level. Plus it is all scriptable with applescript. Applescipt is like having shellscript for GUI... very slick. As for performance every new iteration of 10.1.x releases have shown alot improvements, evem on older hardware.
and when it reaches 4.20 will we all be HIGH
".... KOffice is natively compiled for the machine platform on which it is executing, whereas StarOffice is a Java-based application. This means KOffice responds much faster and is less memory-intensive than StarOffice... "
Do a little research. Just a little. From staroffice faq
Is StarOffice 5.2 software written in the Java language? Will Sun rewrite the StarOffice suite in Java technology?
"... the majority of the StarOffice 5.2 code is written in C++. Sun does not intend to rewrite StarOffice 5.2 in Java technology..."
Java is so slow that everything sun makes is crawls because of it. Mr Deignan believes everything his MS marketing rep. tells him.
Lets get things clear here. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COPY CONTROL. Just put a mic next to a speaker and poof the music is recorded. They need to just get over the fact that people will do what they want with what they own.
howabout 6gigs on a dvdR
well it was really the flash wrapping a copper cable around the earth a few times. You see the earth was in danger of getting to hot because these aliens wanted to move here. The earths climate was too temperate so they move it closer to the sun. Then the ultra cool yet anoyingly corny flash did his thing.
Make a game platform based on Java or Linux. Update the platform every 1-2 years to alow for newer technologies.
If they were to take the lead on the JCP(Java Community Process) and develope the API for the game profile then they can get out of the hardware business and focus on making great games that will run on things from cellphones to TVs to PCs.
If they would make a GPLed openGL based gaming api for linux they would be able to run all of there games on practicaly any machine.
wake up
"I would really like to know who 'doesn't deserve' some form of welfare system for unfortnate situations"
The ones who steals from those who have. Just because someone does not one to give their hard earned money to an ineffective and moraly corrupt government does't mean that they will not give to charity. I believe in people. I believe people with money will give to charities. I'm not rich but I give money to charities.
Nobody is saying that the poor do not need assistance. Its just that the government is not the way to do it. Give prople the chance to show how good they are and they will suprise you. If you didn't know... the ratio of givings to charity is directly proportional to how well the economy is doing.
Wealth was created. Jobs were made. Something was created and sold. If that is not good what the fuck is.
Social policy
- Social Darwinism (better word?): a social policy believing that people are responsible for their own welfare with no governmental assistance.
- Socialism: a social policy which espouses that a government has some responsibility for the welfare of its people.
This is wrong if your going to say Social Darwinism is no governmental assistance. Then you must say Socialism is a policy in which people's welfare is the responsability of the government.
and
I think people know the difference between Germany and USSR.
weo
I alwase thought that the use of templates was a "kludge" to avoid the fact that there is no base object in C++. Its the OO thing to do.
John's views on this is expressed in his .plan. If it is fast enough he'll do it. Check out the Java 3D/2D/advanced imageing.
You CAN make changes. You get the source code.
You CAN redistribute. You just can't make any money on the software without giveing SUN royalties. ie it accomplishes the same as the GPL Free source code and freely share with you friends your changes. As far as using code for other projects... If you use enought of the Star office code base you do owe the creaters something back. This model is much better than the MS.. you don't have any rights.
Please get you facts strait expecialy the first one. It just make you look like a FUD spreader.
The license compels you to make your software free and open source. Any modifications that are made to the software must be published if it is to be used for profit. It is very GPLish in the way that it forces openess to people who use the software.
Bring it on. I know that you don't need the kernal patched anymore to use it. But from what I understand, KGIcon works better when it is. I hope that future distos will include it.
WAKE UP RedHat...