NPR news is pretty neutral (I'm talking about the hourly news, not the shows, which do lean to the left a bit generally)
Years ago I liked to watch Crossfire on PBS where Conservatives and (NOT) Liberals would sit across from each other debating an issue.
if you get your political opinions from people like Beck
I used to be accused of getting my beliefs and opinions from him. When I was it was the first tyme I heard of him. Though it's been more than 10 years I used to like to listen to Rush. He'd spew all these numbers that were easy to prove wrong. I don't listen to leftists either, they're just as bad.
Falcon
Notice I didn't say "Liberals" above, instead I used "leftists". That is because they are not Liberals. A real liberal believes in liberty and small government, but many of those called "liberal" today believe in big government.
MySpace can lose 1 million users a month and it'll still last 5 years unless closed earlier. The Chinese social networking websites are just as likely to grow and grow then shrink too. I wouldn't invest in News Corp, the owner of MySpace, but if I could I would invest in the Chinese businesses. Then in a few more years I'd move to other investments.
Was that link supposed to have web stats for Linux usage? I didn't see any. Googling though I did find this: OS Platform Statistics. It shows web stats for Linux being above 5%. The stats have Linux breaking 5% in November 2010. Going further and comparing Linux stats with Windows stats, it has all versions of MS Windows having 86.5% of the OS market in December. In February it was 85.9%. In the same tyme period both Linux and Mac OSX gained share.
Again going further, there's OS and browser spoofing. Using Firefox I don't know how many webpages I've landed on that says "Best viewed with X" where X is a version of IE. Spoof IE on those pages and some render fine while others don't.
Since applications written for Intel Windows are not compatible with Alpha Windows do you believe those machines should be counted separately, too?
NT4 for Alpha is still Windows.
As for what applications were compatible and what weren't, when I bought my Alpha I also bought a laptop and some software. The only application I bought I was able to install on both was Borland C++, of course the code it wrote was for Intel. However I installed a number of open source and shareware programs on both. I was able to install free software on my Alpha but not commercial software? I thought that was ironic, unless of course the commercial software was written to test the CPU. Which Microsoft did, someone gave me MS Office and I tried installing it. It told me it could not be installed because the CPU was an Alpha not an Intel.
And what's to stop others from doing the same if they have Redhat under another name? If Oracle repackages RHEL who's to stop Oracle customers from installing updated RPMs too?
RHEL customers don't need the individual patches. They just download and install the updated RPMs from RedHat.
And what's to stop other from doing the same if they have Redhat under another name? If Oracle repackages RHEL who's to stop Oracle customers from installing updated RPMs too?
As for the desktop I've been reading claims here about how Linux is growing for years. Every year there is a story about a government or business switching but Linux just sits at 1%.
But I think it is working, just not as good as a better strategy may. Sure Linux hasn't increased its desktop market share, at least that anyone can show stats, but that market is growing. Because there is no one place, or two, to look for how many desktops Linux runs on nobody knows just how much Linux is used. Two PCs I bought, with MS Windows, I planned on installing Linux. I was a fool not making sure their hardware was Linux compatible, they weren't, but where would that have shown up in stats? Another PC I bought I bought it as a dualboot PC, Windows NT4 and Redhat Linux. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro. A couple of days ago I replaced the 320GB with a 750GB HDD. When I installed Snow Leopard I partitioned the drive first into 3 partitions. On the first partition I installed Snow Leopard. I'm about to install Lucid Linx on the third partition. On what stats will that show up?
From time to time, my Intel-based Mini "loses" USB peripherals.
Not the same as yours but I've been having trouble with USB devices connected to my MacBook Pro. When I boot it up it can take 5 -10 minutes for my external drives to show up on my desktop and in Finder. And I turn them on before I boot up.
Anyway, I wonder how successful Apple would have been had they bought Be instead of NeXT. They've certainly done well on the route they took, but BeOS seemed to have a lot to offer, too.
BeOS CEO Jean-Louis Gassée wanted more for the company than Apple was willing to pay. Myself, I wonder what would have happened if Apple bought AmigaOS.
Apple didn't kill their servers, Apple killed their blades, the Xserve. The Mac Pro can be and is used as a server. For rack mounts Apple suggests using Mac Minis, which I admit does not cut it for large installations. One problem with both solutions is they don't have a redundant power source. Mac Pros are too large for racks and the Mini lacks in throughput and bandwidth.
fwiw I own both an iPad and iMac. I don't consider Mac OS X dominant, I only switched when I could get a native version of MS Office
MS had MS Office for Macs on 68K Mac running System 7.0. And MS Word was available when the Mac was released. If you were waiting for a native Mac port of MS Office you didn't wait long.
The relevant visible parts of MacOS are pretty anti-unix actually.
Following that X Windows and the window manager used, Gnome, KDE, or whatever are anti-unix as well. Yet you'll see these on many Linux PCs. As well a PCs with AIX, Solaris, and other Unices.
The end result: I've heard a LOT of mac fans touting the bootcamp feature to potential new converts...
Use Bootcamp? Why? It's not needed to dualboot a Mac. Okay, it does make it easier to dualboot.
After replacing the HDD in my MacBook Pro yesterday with a bigger drive, I replaced the 320GB with a 750GB drive, I installed Snow Leopard. Before I did though I partitioned the drive into three separate partitions. The first one I made 60GB and installed Snow Leopard on. The third one I also made 60GB, for Lucid Linx. The second partition takes up the rest of the drive and is for a shared user home, both SL and LL can use it. That was done using the Disk utility included on the Snow Leopard DVD. To select the OS to be booted I'll use rEFIt.
The dirty secret: none of them would think of using it without parallels or fusion.
I don't have it yet but I will get and use Fusion so I can boot up Ubuntu from inside SN. But I will only do so when I don't mind LL running slowly, such as for testing. When I use LL heavily I will bootup LL on it's own not in a VM. I've actually thought of getting Snow Leopard Server so I could run it in a VM in Ubuntu as well.
Linux has only given competition to desktop Windows on netbooks.
And on servers and on desktops. Though the Linux market share on the desktop is small, less than 1%, it is growing. MS has to give away or sale at low prices Windows in un- and under-developed nations just to prevent buyers from using Linux. Monthly if not weekly it seems one business, government, or organization is moving from Windows to Linux. These stories used to be posted on Slashdot regularly.
As for me, I'm typing this on my MacBook Pro but for a server I'm in the process of rebuilding my PC then I'll probably install Ubuntu Server on it.
Maybe it needs to die and then be reborn as Android.
I might get a smartphone with Android but I think if I get a tablet/pad it will have MeGoo. I'd rather get a Modbook Pro but they'll be too expensive for me more than likely.
TFA doesn't specify what this actually means, so let me speculate. They're not going to go closed-source; they'd be lynched. I think this is a reference to the fact that they're distributing their source prepatched now, to make it harder to just take their patches and apply them to other distros.
One problem I see with this is that current installations of RHEL have to be patched too. Businesses relying on RHEL who can't get patches will possibly switch. If Red Hat wants to grow more it can't treat it's customers like MS does, like shit.
free market fundamentalism fails because it believes selfishness trumps all.
Another misinformed poster. Not one free marketer I know of believe that at all. Try to find "selfishness" in wiki's Free market article. The father of free markets was Adam Smith and he definitely didn't. Beside writing "Wealth of Nations" he also wrote The Theory of Moral Sentiments. One description says "Its highly original theories of conscience, moral judgment, and virtue offer a reconstruction of the Enlightenment concept of social science, embracing both political economy and theories of law and government.Its highly original theories of conscience, moral judgment, and virtue offer a reconstruction of the Enlightenment concept of social science, embracing both political economy and theories of law and government.." His invisible hand is the conjunction of "the forces of self-interest, competition, and supply and demand". Also he says of the invisible hand:
"The rich consume little more than the poor, and in spite of their natural selfishness and rapacity, though they mean only their own conveniency, though the sole end which they propose from the labours of all the thousands whom they employ, be the gratification of their own vain and insatiable desires, they divide with the poor the produce of all their improvements. They are led by an invisible hand to make nearly the same distribution of the necessaries of life, which would have been made, had the earth been divided into equal portions among all its inhabitants, and thus without intending it, without knowing it, advance the interest of the society, and afford means to the multiplication of the species. When Providence divided the earth among a few lordly masters, it neither forgot nor abandoned those who seemed to have been left out in the partition. These last too enjoy their share of all that it produces. In what constitutes the real happiness of human life, they are in no respect inferior to those who would seem so much above them. In ease of body and peace of mind, all the different ranks of life are nearly upon a level, and the beggar, who suns himself by the side of the highway, possesses that security which kings are fighting for".
Dispite what people say or believe today's poor in the US have better lives than the poor a century ago.
why give back to the society that made my riches possible
Yea, why did Rockefeller, Hughes, Vanderbilt, and so many other wealthy people leave fortunes to non-profits or set up foundations that financially support non-profits they like? Bill and Melisa Gates are leaving their wealth to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Warren Buffett has pledged to donate to the foundation "approximately 10 million Berkshire Hathaway Class B shares spread over multiple years through annual contributions, worth approximately US$30 billion in 2006." George Soros uses his wealth to fund his Open Society Institute. Its aim is to "to shape public policy to promote democratic governance, human rights, and economic, legal, and social reform." Business tycoon Armand Hammer was friends with both Vladimir Lenin and Ronald Reagan.
the truth of course, is balance: capitalism with social safety nets. but some asshole believe that just modest social safety nets is some unstoppable slippery slope into north korea style communism.
Worth noting: The fearmongering about the death of the 'net actually pre-dates the Internet. It originally referred to Usenet. The more things change...
Usenet was conceived of in 1979. The Internet got its start in the 1950s and '60s. Actually Usenet would not exist without the internet, it was built on top of the net.
It's not even the end of the Web. All these devices are still accessing websites, websites made friendly to hand held devices not just to desktop computers.
And society often pays it, not just individuals. That's why we need strong support for education. You can't leave it up to "free market solves everything" magic.
It amazes me how people can turn any problem, even that in which there is not a free market, from blaming problems on that non-existent free market. They're just as bad as Communists who believe only if communism is tried will it work.
The few times I've tried to watch any of those ghost hunter shows it always seems like it's dramatized, or a bunch of people sitting around convinced that everything around them is proof of a ghost. "Zomg, the floor creaked".
I have the same problem with religious people.
Hard to say if it's a hoax, or people looking too hard for something, and interpreting everything they see as 'proof'. It's hard not to cynically think that someone off camera who is part of it is scuffing their feet or something.
Reminds me of Randy Travis in "Touched by an Angel's" A Christmas Miracle episode. After being a conman his character takes care of his mentally retarded brother and has trouble believing in angels, god, or miracles.
I don't believe myself, I am "a", without and "gnosys", knowledge, eg agnostic but that show helped me after my accident leaving me with a disability.
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NPR news is pretty neutral (I'm talking about the hourly news, not the shows, which do lean to the left a bit generally)
Years ago I liked to watch Crossfire on PBS where Conservatives and (NOT) Liberals would sit across from each other debating an issue.
if you get your political opinions from people like Beck
I used to be accused of getting my beliefs and opinions from him. When I was it was the first tyme I heard of him. Though it's been more than 10 years I used to like to listen to Rush. He'd spew all these numbers that were easy to prove wrong. I don't listen to leftists either, they're just as bad.
Falcon
Notice I didn't say "Liberals" above, instead I used "leftists". That is because they are not Liberals. A real liberal believes in liberty and small government, but many of those called "liberal" today believe in big government.
MySpace can lose 1 million users a month and it'll still last 5 years unless closed earlier. The Chinese social networking websites are just as likely to grow and grow then shrink too. I wouldn't invest in News Corp, the owner of MySpace, but if I could I would invest in the Chinese businesses. Then in a few more years I'd move to other investments.
Falcon
Am I the only one who thought this was an odd comparison?
When I first saw WP7 that's what I thought too. Word Perfect 7?
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http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-na-monthly-201002-201102
Was that link supposed to have web stats for Linux usage? I didn't see any. Googling though I did find this: OS Platform Statistics. It shows web stats for Linux being above 5%. The stats have Linux breaking 5% in November 2010. Going further and comparing Linux stats with Windows stats, it has all versions of MS Windows having 86.5% of the OS market in December. In February it was 85.9%. In the same tyme period both Linux and Mac OSX gained share.
Again going further, there's OS and browser spoofing. Using Firefox I don't know how many webpages I've landed on that says "Best viewed with X" where X is a version of IE. Spoof IE on those pages and some render fine while others don't.
Falcon
Since applications written for Intel Windows are not compatible with Alpha Windows do you believe those machines should be counted separately, too?
NT4 for Alpha is still Windows.
As for what applications were compatible and what weren't, when I bought my Alpha I also bought a laptop and some software. The only application I bought I was able to install on both was Borland C++, of course the code it wrote was for Intel. However I installed a number of open source and shareware programs on both. I was able to install free software on my Alpha but not commercial software? I thought that was ironic, unless of course the commercial software was written to test the CPU. Which Microsoft did, someone gave me MS Office and I tried installing it. It told me it could not be installed because the CPU was an Alpha not an Intel.
Falcon
Copy and paste:
And what's to stop others from doing the same if they have Redhat under another name? If Oracle repackages RHEL who's to stop Oracle customers from installing updated RPMs too?
Falcon
RHEL customers don't need the individual patches. They just download and install the updated RPMs from RedHat.
And what's to stop other from doing the same if they have Redhat under another name? If Oracle repackages RHEL who's to stop Oracle customers from installing updated RPMs too?
That is what I meant.
Falcon
As for the desktop I've been reading claims here about how Linux is growing for years. Every year there is a story about a government or business switching but Linux just sits at 1%.
But I think it is working, just not as good as a better strategy may. Sure Linux hasn't increased its desktop market share, at least that anyone can show stats, but that market is growing. Because there is no one place, or two, to look for how many desktops Linux runs on nobody knows just how much Linux is used. Two PCs I bought, with MS Windows, I planned on installing Linux. I was a fool not making sure their hardware was Linux compatible, they weren't, but where would that have shown up in stats? Another PC I bought I bought it as a dualboot PC, Windows NT4 and Redhat Linux. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro. A couple of days ago I replaced the 320GB with a 750GB HDD. When I installed Snow Leopard I partitioned the drive first into 3 partitions. On the first partition I installed Snow Leopard. I'm about to install Lucid Linx on the third partition. On what stats will that show up?
Falcon
From time to time, my Intel-based Mini "loses" USB peripherals.
Not the same as yours but I've been having trouble with USB devices connected to my MacBook Pro. When I boot it up it can take 5 -10 minutes for my external drives to show up on my desktop and in Finder. And I turn them on before I boot up.
Falcon
Anyway, I wonder how successful Apple would have been had they bought Be instead of NeXT. They've certainly done well on the route they took, but BeOS seemed to have a lot to offer, too.
BeOS CEO Jean-Louis Gassée wanted more for the company than Apple was willing to pay. Myself, I wonder what would have happened if Apple bought AmigaOS.
Falcon
Apple didn't kill their servers, Apple killed their blades, the Xserve. The Mac Pro can be and is used as a server. For rack mounts Apple suggests using Mac Minis, which I admit does not cut it for large installations. One problem with both solutions is they don't have a redundant power source. Mac Pros are too large for racks and the Mini lacks in throughput and bandwidth.
Falcon
So Windows NT for Alpha doesn't count as Windows either?
That's the only version of MS Window I liked. And I still have my Alpha under my desk.
Falcon
fwiw I own both an iPad and iMac. I don't consider Mac OS X dominant, I only switched when I could get a native version of MS Office
MS had MS Office for Macs on 68K Mac running System 7.0. And MS Word was available when the Mac was released. If you were waiting for a native Mac port of MS Office you didn't wait long.
Falcon
The relevant visible parts of MacOS are pretty anti-unix actually.
Following that X Windows and the window manager used, Gnome, KDE, or whatever are anti-unix as well. Yet you'll see these on many Linux PCs. As well a PCs with AIX, Solaris, and other Unices.
Falcon
The end result: I've heard a LOT of mac fans touting the bootcamp feature to potential new converts...
Use Bootcamp? Why? It's not needed to dualboot a Mac. Okay, it does make it easier to dualboot.
After replacing the HDD in my MacBook Pro yesterday with a bigger drive, I replaced the 320GB with a 750GB drive, I installed Snow Leopard. Before I did though I partitioned the drive into three separate partitions. The first one I made 60GB and installed Snow Leopard on. The third one I also made 60GB, for Lucid Linx. The second partition takes up the rest of the drive and is for a shared user home, both SL and LL can use it. That was done using the Disk utility included on the Snow Leopard DVD. To select the OS to be booted I'll use rEFIt.
The dirty secret: none of them would think of using it without parallels or fusion.
I don't have it yet but I will get and use Fusion so I can boot up Ubuntu from inside SN. But I will only do so when I don't mind LL running slowly, such as for testing. When I use LL heavily I will bootup LL on it's own not in a VM. I've actually thought of getting Snow Leopard Server so I could run it in a VM in Ubuntu as well.
Falcon
Linux has only given competition to desktop Windows on netbooks.
And on servers and on desktops. Though the Linux market share on the desktop is small, less than 1%, it is growing. MS has to give away or sale at low prices Windows in un- and under-developed nations just to prevent buyers from using Linux. Monthly if not weekly it seems one business, government, or organization is moving from Windows to Linux. These stories used to be posted on Slashdot regularly.
As for me, I'm typing this on my MacBook Pro but for a server I'm in the process of rebuilding my PC then I'll probably install Ubuntu Server on it.
Maybe it needs to die and then be reborn as Android.
I might get a smartphone with Android but I think if I get a tablet/pad it will have MeGoo. I'd rather get a Modbook Pro but they'll be too expensive for me more than likely.
Falcon
MS doesn't care what you run Windows on, just that you run Windows.
And that the computer it runs on connects to MS servers, or MS is called.
I switched from MS Windows to both Linux and Mac OS X because I didn't feel like being treated like a criminal.
Falcon
TFA doesn't specify what this actually means, so let me speculate. They're not going to go closed-source; they'd be lynched. I think this is a reference to the fact that they're distributing their source prepatched now, to make it harder to just take their patches and apply them to other distros.
One problem I see with this is that current installations of RHEL have to be patched too. Businesses relying on RHEL who can't get patches will possibly switch. If Red Hat wants to grow more it can't treat it's customers like MS does, like shit.
Falcon
free market fundamentalism fails because it believes selfishness trumps all.
Another misinformed poster. Not one free marketer I know of believe that at all. Try to find "selfishness" in wiki's Free market article. The father of free markets was Adam Smith and he definitely didn't. Beside writing "Wealth of Nations" he also wrote The Theory of Moral Sentiments. One description says "Its highly original theories of conscience, moral judgment, and virtue offer a reconstruction of the Enlightenment concept of social science, embracing both political economy and theories of law and government.Its highly original theories of conscience, moral judgment, and virtue offer a reconstruction of the Enlightenment concept of social science, embracing both political economy and theories of law and government.." His invisible hand is the conjunction of "the forces of self-interest, competition, and supply and demand". Also he says of the invisible hand:
"The rich consume little more than the poor, and in spite of their natural selfishness and rapacity, though they mean only their own conveniency, though the sole end which they propose from the labours of all the thousands whom they employ, be the gratification of their own vain and insatiable desires, they divide with the poor the produce of all their improvements. They are led by an invisible hand to make nearly the same distribution of the necessaries of life, which would have been made, had the earth been divided into equal portions among all its inhabitants, and thus without intending it, without knowing it, advance the interest of the society, and afford means to the multiplication of the species. When Providence divided the earth among a few lordly masters, it neither forgot nor abandoned those who seemed to have been left out in the partition. These last too enjoy their share of all that it produces. In what constitutes the real happiness of human life, they are in no respect inferior to those who would seem so much above them. In ease of body and peace of mind, all the different ranks of life are nearly upon a level, and the beggar, who suns himself by the side of the highway, possesses that security which kings are fighting for".
Dispite what people say or believe today's poor in the US have better lives than the poor a century ago.
why give back to the society that made my riches possible
Yea, why did Rockefeller, Hughes, Vanderbilt, and so many other wealthy people leave fortunes to non-profits or set up foundations that financially support non-profits they like? Bill and Melisa Gates are leaving their wealth to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Warren Buffett has pledged to donate to the foundation "approximately 10 million Berkshire Hathaway Class B shares spread over multiple years through annual contributions, worth approximately US$30 billion in 2006." George Soros uses his wealth to fund his Open Society Institute. Its aim is to "to shape public policy to promote democratic governance, human rights, and economic, legal, and social reform." Business tycoon Armand Hammer was friends with both Vladimir Lenin and Ronald Reagan.
the truth of course, is balance: capitalism with social safety nets. but some asshole believe that just modest social safety nets is some unstoppable slippery slope into north korea style communism.
The truth is that the
Worth noting: The fearmongering about the death of the 'net actually pre-dates the Internet. It originally referred to Usenet. The more things change...
Usenet was conceived of in 1979. The Internet got its start in the 1950s and '60s. Actually Usenet would not exist without the internet, it was built on top of the net.
Falcon
just the end of the World Wide Web.
It's not even the end of the Web. All these devices are still accessing websites, websites made friendly to hand held devices not just to desktop computers.
Falcon
The Web is not broken, its capabilities are actually growing.
Falcon
And society often pays it, not just individuals. That's why we need strong support for education. You can't leave it up to "free market solves everything" magic.
It amazes me how people can turn any problem, even that in which there is not a free market, from blaming problems on that non-existent free market. They're just as bad as Communists who believe only if communism is tried will it work.
Falcon
The few times I've tried to watch any of those ghost hunter shows it always seems like it's dramatized, or a bunch of people sitting around convinced that everything around them is proof of a ghost. "Zomg, the floor creaked".
I have the same problem with religious people.
Hard to say if it's a hoax, or people looking too hard for something, and interpreting everything they see as 'proof'. It's hard not to cynically think that someone off camera who is part of it is scuffing their feet or something.
Reminds me of Randy Travis in "Touched by an Angel's" A Christmas Miracle episode. After being a conman his character takes care of his mentally retarded brother and has trouble believing in angels, god, or miracles.
I don't believe myself, I am "a", without and "gnosys", knowledge, eg agnostic but that show helped me after my accident leaving me with a disability.
Falcon
Buddhism isn't technically a religion in that there's no creator god
Religion does not need a creator god. Specific religions believe in one or more gods but one is not needed.
Falcon