'In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court upheld state laws requiring citizens to disclose their identity to police when officers have reasonable suspicion to believe criminal activity may be taking place.
In the Hiibel case all justices agreed police can ask for a person's name, but an ID does not need to be presented. The disagreement, 5 to 4, "was whether the person could be prosecuted for failing to answer that question."
There are court cases saying you have to present ID if demanded by a cop.
That I know of there is no law requiring people of have ID in the US, and it's hard to require people to show ID they don't have. Searching... I found this that says "The rules are different for drivers and immigrants, who are required to provide identification upon request."
The woman who made the call has been harassed and ridiculed for the call. I don't see how that's an anonymous tip.
I agree, and I thought I heard someone say on CNN the professor thanked the woman for calling the police.
the Prof followed him outside and put his hand on the cop. Big difference.
I don't know if the prof touched the officer, but the officer asked him to step out. Big difference.
The professor was simply being immature:
I doubt you're Black, many have felt they were harassed by law enforcement for no reason other than their colour. While the professor may of taken it too far, for many Blacks it is a natural reaction. What bothers me is that there were two officers there, one is Black and both White and Black officers back this White officer.
Instead the professor postured, took it too far, and a situation that should never have happened occured. The professor was simply immature and should grow up.
I don't know or recall his name but a judge on the Larry King show said the officer went too far too. I think it would of been handled much better if Obama had proposed the Beer Summit sooner and not said anything about who was at fault before then.
If this hack is really that easy, you should be able to come up with a security expert willing to counter than government security expert.
It's not merely a matter of finding an expert who can counter the government expert, the defendant also has to pay them and they have to be available and willing to testify.
I was both of these too when I went in. Scrawniness? I was 6 foot and weighed 165 pounds. Nerdiness? While in high school I debated with myself whether I'd major in Computer Engineering or a Marine Science, CE won. If I knew then what I know now I would have done a double major, CE and a Marine Science, perhaps Oceanography or Marine Biology. I took both computer science and Marine biology classes in school as well as chemistry. Though only 1 year of bio was needed to graduate I took 4 years of science.
When I went down to the recruiting station they asked me was I wanted my MOS, Military Occupation Specialty, to be. You could hear all the gasps when I said infantry. The person looked at my ASVAB scores again then stammered I could go into any field I wanted to, why would I want to go into the infantry. Actually at first I said I wanted to go into the Special Forces but he said you can't enlist into the SF but had to request it once you were in. Here I was a scrawny and intelligent kid wanting to be in the Special Forces? GASP. But within a year of going in I met all qualifications to earn the Expert Infantry Badge but 1, the qualification I did not meet was the requirement that the person be in the army at least a year. I didn't know that at first and was wondering why I didn't get it so I asked my CO, Commanding Officer, and he told me about the 1 year requirement. Then he said I could get it next year, but I old him I didn't need it, I wanted to know if I was capable.
By far the hardest part of being in the Army was following orders, I'd come right out and say I thought an order was stupid if I thought that, and keeping my hair cut. When I went in my hair draped my shoulders but they don't like your hair touching your ears.
You see, it's all well and good to want mistakes to be quick and easy to resolve. Some of them are. Some of them aren't. The ones that aren't, aren't for a reason. It sucks that it was inconvenient for you, but IMO that's better than the alternative.
Would you feel the same after you've spent 23 years in prison for a rape you did not commit? I doubt it, by the end of those years I'd bet you'd agree with those who believe it was better to let 10 guilty go free than falsely convict one innocent. And you wouldn't be able to agree or disagree once you were executed then cleared.
Neither of those cases is a matter of inconvenience either.
How exactly is an unsubstantiated comment from some random nerd "symptomatic" of anything, other than the well-known level of anti-government paranoia on Slashdot?
How some people on Slashdot trusts government I don't know. During the past century governments, yes even the US government, has killed millions of people and experimented with millions more. And that's not unsubstantiated. NAZI Germany, a democracy, exterminated not just large numbers of Jews in the Holocaust but also other ethnic groups such as the Romany, Sinti, and other Gypsies and Serbs. Communists and Social Democrats were also targeted. About the same tyme Stalin ordered the death of some 20,000,000. And estimates say Mao had some 50,000,000 killed. During WWII the US Army Air Corps did medical experiments on the Tuskegee Airmen, the first Blacks the US trained as airmen, without their knowledge or consent. The Bureau of Indian Affairs had doctors sterilize American Indian Women, forcibly and unknowingly, up through the 1970s. Here are more experiments the US government or military has done. The Tonkin Incident was made up in 1964 to justify the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution which authorized President LB Johnson to use military force in Viet Nam without an official declaration of war, which only congress can do. The US Army also killed hundreds in the My Lai Massacre in Viet Nam in 1968. The US even played a part in the death of some 200,000 East Timorese with the arming and backing of General Suharto's Indonesian invasion of the sovereign nation of East Timor in 1975.
I fear government far more than any other nation or terrorists. Much of the distrust of government has been earned not made up.
Trouble is, when given the choice, the vast majority of people would choose to not pay for military support, thinking "everyone else is paying for it, it won't matter if I don't".
That's alright by me, I've said for years we should have a citizens military with a small core of professionals. We don't need a military as big as we have, or one spread all over the world.
Bank runs don't make for stable economies. I suspect you're not an economist - a lot of economists put a lot of thought into what the government is doing, and a lot of them think it was the best course of action.
And other economists who put as much if not more thought into it opposed the bailouts.
A lot of us citizens don't necessarily mind bailing out the banks (given sufficient oversight), but like I said, if you don't like it, you can always vote for someone who shares your views. (You're about to complain that such a person would never get elected. Shouldn't that tell you something about the views of the majority of Americans?)
No, that tells me government has gotten too big and exists outside the limits put on it by the Constitution of the USA. Fine, if you want government to do something it does not have the power to do, propose an amendment, don't treat the Constitution as toilet paper.
We send people to death row on little more than unreliable eye witness testimony
We do?
The US does. The Innocence Project has proven the innocence or had arranged the pardon of 4 people this past week. Ernest Sonnier had been in prison 23 years for rape when a DNA test cleared him. A report on the lab that originally ran tests that was used to convict him "details dozens of testing errors and questionable practices uncovered at the Houston lab." I don't recall if it was Alabama or Louisiana but one of them had a problem with an investigator, he had been caught manufacturing evidence. In one case though though he had been caught the state supreme court has upheld the conviction on another person on deathrow ruling to the effect than just because he manufactured evidence once it doesn't mean he did in all cases. Yet they wouldn't allow new tests.
There are reports of some women in Africa that are immune to HIV.
Years ago there was an article linked to on Slashdot about some women prostitutes in Africa who were immune. I tried to find it but perhaps I didn't spend enough tyme because I didn't find it. A few days ago I found another one where some women in China appeared to be immune as well. Here's "Two women found with HIV-immune mutant gene".
The other advantage of monogamy over polygyny is that, with polygyny, a few rich guys suck in a lot of the hot babes and the bulk of the males end up with a less desirable partner or none at all.
Ah, it's good to see there are others who know that what some Mormon sects and Muslims practice is not polygamy. Too many refuse to recognize what they practice is polygyny, where a male can have more than one wife whereas a female can only have one husband. They refuse to admit that polygamy allows both males and females to have more than one spouse. Then there's polyandry, wherein females can have more than one husband, as well.
They evolve for a reason. As my dictionary and others have "noun: an explanation of the cause of some phenomenon" as one definition for "reason" there is reason in evolution. Something causes evolution, even if it's random mutation.
I didn't see "junk" anywhere when I read TFA so I did search for it but still didn't find it. The closest I did see was pseudogene. TFA doesn't surprise me, in the past couple of years or so I've run across articles like this, saying how some scientists have found a use for some "junk dna".
What most people don't realize, I didn't know myself, was that there's more genes and genetic information in humans from bacteria, fungi, microbes, viruses, and other microorganisms than in the human genome. While the human genome contains over 3 billion DNA base pairs and 20,000-25,000 protein-coding genes, about 10 trillion non human cells live in the human gut alone making up the gut flora.
we wouldn't have this silly evolution vs. intelligent design argument at all
I heard, er read, where people have said God used evolution in his design. Personally I don't believe in any supreme deity. I think the hypothesis in "Mission To Mars" to be more probable. Of course those who promote ID avoid saying who the designer is, so as to fool people into accepting it.
i wonder how long until this is embedded in to firefox itself and not removable
Firefox is open source and it will never have something in it that is not removable that is not needed.
abandon Linux completely and switch to one of the [Free/net/open]BSDs
I'm using OS X Leopard now, but I'm planning to install Ubuntu Studio as well. While I don't plan to use one of the BSDs, other than OS X, I want to start programming some and use a BSD license for my programs.
if I want to save my tabs (usually I don't) I simply killalll firefox-bin.
You don't need to kill Firefox if you want to open it with all of your tabs open to the pages that were open when closed. In Preferences set Firefox starts: to "Show my windows and tabs from last time". I used to do that when I wanted to go back to where I was before, then switch back to "Show my homepage" but now I keep it set to the first one. Of course it launches that way every tyme, which as you hint you don't want it to do.
if you are smart enough understand what Linux is, or to install a version of Linux, you obviously know what you are doing. so i dont see how this would be a problem.
So, normal, non-geeks, people need not apply? I heard too many tymes normal computer users complain about this elite attitude some geeks have. And as long as there are those like this Linux will never see the day of Linux on the desktop. Many people don't want or need to be hackers or geeks just to use a computer.
Also some Linux distros, like Ubuntu, are supposed to be easy to install. Boot up with a live disk in the drive so it can be taken for a test drive without messing with the hard disk. Then if everything works use the GUI installer to install it. Installation is similar to installation for Macs and Windows, answer some questions and click on a few things. The only problem with most systems is unusual or unsupported hardware or setting up the system in a specific way.
Okay. It requires another step then if you want to kill everything. Well I guess you can pull the plug, which I've had to do after the computer I was using became unresponsive.
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'In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court upheld state laws requiring citizens to disclose their identity to police when officers have reasonable suspicion to believe criminal activity may be taking place.
In the Hiibel case all justices agreed police can ask for a person's name, but an ID does not need to be presented. The disagreement, 5 to 4, "was whether the person could be prosecuted for failing to answer that question."
Falcon
There are court cases saying you have to present ID if demanded by a cop.
That I know of there is no law requiring people of have ID in the US, and it's hard to require people to show ID they don't have. Searching... I found this that says "The rules are different for drivers and immigrants, who are required to provide identification upon request."
The woman who made the call has been harassed and ridiculed for the call. I don't see how that's an anonymous tip.
I agree, and I thought I heard someone say on CNN the professor thanked the woman for calling the police.
Falcon
the Prof followed him outside and put his hand on the cop. Big difference.
I don't know if the prof touched the officer, but the officer asked him to step out. Big difference.
The professor was simply being immature:
I doubt you're Black, many have felt they were harassed by law enforcement for no reason other than their colour. While the professor may of taken it too far, for many Blacks it is a natural reaction. What bothers me is that there were two officers there, one is Black and both White and Black officers back this White officer.
Instead the professor postured, took it too far, and a situation that should never have happened occured. The professor was simply immature and should grow up.
I don't know or recall his name but a judge on the Larry King show said the officer went too far too. I think it would of been handled much better if Obama had proposed the Beer Summit sooner and not said anything about who was at fault before then.
Falcon
If this hack is really that easy, you should be able to come up with a security expert willing to counter than government security expert.
It's not merely a matter of finding an expert who can counter the government expert, the defendant also has to pay them and they have to be available and willing to testify.
Falcon
what with the scrawniness and nerdiness...
I was both of these too when I went in. Scrawniness? I was 6 foot and weighed 165 pounds. Nerdiness? While in high school I debated with myself whether I'd major in Computer Engineering or a Marine Science, CE won. If I knew then what I know now I would have done a double major, CE and a Marine Science, perhaps Oceanography or Marine Biology. I took both computer science and Marine biology classes in school as well as chemistry. Though only 1 year of bio was needed to graduate I took 4 years of science.
When I went down to the recruiting station they asked me was I wanted my MOS, Military Occupation Specialty, to be. You could hear all the gasps when I said infantry. The person looked at my ASVAB scores again then stammered I could go into any field I wanted to, why would I want to go into the infantry. Actually at first I said I wanted to go into the Special Forces but he said you can't enlist into the SF but had to request it once you were in. Here I was a scrawny and intelligent kid wanting to be in the Special Forces? GASP. But within a year of going in I met all qualifications to earn the Expert Infantry Badge but 1, the qualification I did not meet was the requirement that the person be in the army at least a year. I didn't know that at first and was wondering why I didn't get it so I asked my CO, Commanding Officer, and he told me about the 1 year requirement. Then he said I could get it next year, but I old him I didn't need it, I wanted to know if I was capable.
By far the hardest part of being in the Army was following orders, I'd come right out and say I thought an order was stupid if I thought that, and keeping my hair cut. When I went in my hair draped my shoulders but they don't like your hair touching your ears.
Falcon
You see, it's all well and good to want mistakes to be quick and easy to resolve. Some of them are. Some of them aren't. The ones that aren't, aren't for a reason. It sucks that it was inconvenient for you, but IMO that's better than the alternative.
Would you feel the same after you've spent 23 years in prison for a rape you did not commit? I doubt it, by the end of those years I'd bet you'd agree with those who believe it was better to let 10 guilty go free than falsely convict one innocent. And you wouldn't be able to agree or disagree once you were executed then cleared.
Neither of those cases is a matter of inconvenience either.
Falcon
How exactly is an unsubstantiated comment from some random nerd "symptomatic" of anything, other than the well-known level of anti-government paranoia on Slashdot?
How some people on Slashdot trusts government I don't know. During the past century governments, yes even the US government, has killed millions of people and experimented with millions more. And that's not unsubstantiated. NAZI Germany, a democracy, exterminated not just large numbers of Jews in the Holocaust but also other ethnic groups such as the Romany, Sinti, and other Gypsies and Serbs. Communists and Social Democrats were also targeted. About the same tyme Stalin ordered the death of some 20,000,000. And estimates say Mao had some 50,000,000 killed. During WWII the US Army Air Corps did medical experiments on the Tuskegee Airmen, the first Blacks the US trained as airmen, without their knowledge or consent. The Bureau of Indian Affairs had doctors sterilize American Indian Women, forcibly and unknowingly, up through the 1970s. Here are more experiments the US government or military has done. The Tonkin Incident was made up in 1964 to justify the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution which authorized President LB Johnson to use military force in Viet Nam without an official declaration of war, which only congress can do. The US Army also killed hundreds in the My Lai Massacre in Viet Nam in 1968. The US even played a part in the death of some 200,000 East Timorese with the arming and backing of General Suharto's Indonesian invasion of the sovereign nation of East Timor in 1975.
I fear government far more than any other nation or terrorists. Much of the distrust of government has been earned not made up.
Falcon
Troll
Trouble is, when given the choice, the vast majority of people would choose to not pay for military support, thinking "everyone else is paying for it, it won't matter if I don't".
That's alright by me, I've said for years we should have a citizens military with a small core of professionals. We don't need a military as big as we have, or one spread all over the world.
Bank runs don't make for stable economies. I suspect you're not an economist - a lot of economists put a lot of thought into what the government is doing, and a lot of them think it was the best course of action.
And other economists who put as much if not more thought into it opposed the bailouts.
A lot of us citizens don't necessarily mind bailing out the banks (given sufficient oversight), but like I said, if you don't like it, you can always vote for someone who shares your views. (You're about to complain that such a person would never get elected. Shouldn't that tell you something about the views of the majority of Americans?)
No, that tells me government has gotten too big and exists outside the limits put on it by the Constitution of the USA. Fine, if you want government to do something it does not have the power to do, propose an amendment, don't treat the Constitution as toilet paper.
Falcon
either lobby to get the law changed, or MOVE OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
I enlisted in my country's military to defend it, did you?
That is all!
Falcon
We send people to death row on little more than unreliable eye witness testimony
We do?
The US does. The Innocence Project has proven the innocence or had arranged the pardon of 4 people this past week. Ernest Sonnier had been in prison 23 years for rape when a DNA test cleared him. A report on the lab that originally ran tests that was used to convict him "details dozens of testing errors and questionable practices uncovered at the Houston lab." I don't recall if it was Alabama or Louisiana but one of them had a problem with an investigator, he had been caught manufacturing evidence. In one case though though he had been caught the state supreme court has upheld the conviction on another person on deathrow ruling to the effect than just because he manufactured evidence once it doesn't mean he did in all cases. Yet they wouldn't allow new tests.
Falcon
There are reports of some women in Africa that are immune to HIV.
Years ago there was an article linked to on Slashdot about some women prostitutes in Africa who were immune. I tried to find it but perhaps I didn't spend enough tyme because I didn't find it. A few days ago I found another one where some women in China appeared to be immune as well. Here's "Two women found with HIV-immune mutant gene".
Falcon
The other advantage of monogamy over polygyny is that, with polygyny, a few rich guys suck in a lot of the hot babes and the bulk of the males end up with a less desirable partner or none at all.
Ah, it's good to see there are others who know that what some Mormon sects and Muslims practice is not polygamy. Too many refuse to recognize what they practice is polygyny, where a male can have more than one wife whereas a female can only have one husband. They refuse to admit that polygamy allows both males and females to have more than one spouse. Then there's polyandry, wherein females can have more than one husband, as well.
Falcon
They just evolve.
They evolve for a reason. As my dictionary and others have "noun: an explanation of the cause of some phenomenon" as one definition for "reason" there is reason in evolution. Something causes evolution, even if it's random mutation.
Falcon
This same data is collected by every single search engine?
They are still analyzing or mining the data. That, or they are selling it. There is no other reason to collect the data.
at least they're not storing it in a big database, tied to your IP.
And how do you know this?
Falcon
What, you never heard of the Creation Museum? Humans and dinosaurs lived together, dinosaurs were wiped out by the Great Flood. ;-)
Falcon
I didn't see "junk" anywhere when I read TFA so I did search for it but still didn't find it. The closest I did see was pseudogene. TFA doesn't surprise me, in the past couple of years or so I've run across articles like this, saying how some scientists have found a use for some "junk dna".
What most people don't realize, I didn't know myself, was that there's more genes and genetic information in humans from bacteria, fungi, microbes, viruses, and other microorganisms than in the human genome. While the human genome contains over 3 billion DNA base pairs and 20,000-25,000 protein-coding genes, about 10 trillion non human cells live in the human gut alone making up the gut flora.
Falcon
we wouldn't have this silly evolution vs. intelligent design argument at all
I heard, er read, where people have said God used evolution in his design. Personally I don't believe in any supreme deity. I think the hypothesis in "Mission To Mars" to be more probable. Of course those who promote ID avoid saying who the designer is, so as to fool people into accepting it.
Falcon
it has to be sarcasm.
Ir seems people need to learn mind reading to be able to know when someone's being sarcastic.
Falcon
secure
I see "Velociraptors" there while I'm playing "Jurassic Park". Though there aren't any velociraptors in it Tremors II: Aftershocks has a window scene.
Falcon
i wonder how long until this is embedded in to firefox itself and not removable
Firefox is open source and it will never have something in it that is not removable that is not needed.
abandon Linux completely and switch to one of the [Free/net/open]BSDs
I'm using OS X Leopard now, but I'm planning to install Ubuntu Studio as well. While I don't plan to use one of the BSDs, other than OS X, I want to start programming some and use a BSD license for my programs.
Falcon
if I want to save my tabs (usually I don't) I simply killalll firefox-bin.
You don't need to kill Firefox if you want to open it with all of your tabs open to the pages that were open when closed. In Preferences set Firefox starts: to "Show my windows and tabs from last time". I used to do that when I wanted to go back to where I was before, then switch back to "Show my homepage" but now I keep it set to the first one. Of course it launches that way every tyme, which as you hint you don't want it to do.
Falcon
if you are smart enough understand what Linux is, or to install a version of Linux, you obviously know what you are doing. so i dont see how this would be a problem.
So, normal, non-geeks, people need not apply? I heard too many tymes normal computer users complain about this elite attitude some geeks have. And as long as there are those like this Linux will never see the day of Linux on the desktop. Many people don't want or need to be hackers or geeks just to use a computer.
Also some Linux distros, like Ubuntu, are supposed to be easy to install. Boot up with a live disk in the drive so it can be taken for a test drive without messing with the hard disk. Then if everything works use the GUI installer to install it. Installation is similar to installation for Macs and Windows, answer some questions and click on a few things. The only problem with most systems is unusual or unsupported hardware or setting up the system in a specific way.
Falcon
it just transfers you to a console
Okay. It requires another step then if you want to kill everything. Well I guess you can pull the plug, which I've had to do after the computer I was using became unresponsive.
Falcon
Do you understand the English language?
What part do you not understand? They collect data and data mining is collecting or otherwise acquiring data that is then mined.
Falcon