Of course, it makes you wonder, why couldn't they create some disease to kill the cane toad off? Or destroy opium poppies etc.
They better leave their hands off of opium! It's the only source of money some have, the US and Aghan gpvernments promised aid so they could make money from other things but the aid was never provided.
Here we have the Taliban in Afghanistan benefiting from the opium trade, yet early in his first term Bush gave the Taliban US taxpayer money supposedly for fighting against opium.
If you read the article carefully, you will note that it doesn't contradict what I wrote.
Perhaps I chose the wrong case, but what I was replying to, about patenting a plant variety, still happens. Now in one case patents were revoked only after they were contested, RiceTec was granted patents for strains of Basmati rice. These strains are native to India and India fought the patents and eventual won.
So was my source. Though it was an article from Reuters, it was about what "Ivette Perfecto, a professor at the University of Michigan's school of Natural Resources and Environment" found out. Does your article count as science but not mine?
Note, for example, that while Mexican corn farmers are going out of business, Mexican Avacado farmers are doing well. Mexico's total exports to the US have more than doubled since NAFTA.
Do you have any links I can read? I try to keep an open mind so it's possible it can be changed. With 1 exception, Chapter 11. A good example of why I don't like it is given in the wiki article:
"Methanex, a Canadian corporation, filed a US$970 million suit against the United States, claiming that a California ban on MTBE, a substance that had found its way into many wells in the state, was hurtful to the corporation's sales of methanol. However, the claim was rejected, and the company was ordered to pay US$3 million to the U.S. government in costs[36]"
If Methanex had won California would have to allow Methanex to sale a known cancer causer in the state where it could pollute more drinking water.
Your argument just doesn't make sense. Nature has ahd billions of years, randomly mutating. If after billions of years no organism has taken over completely, it is not possible. Humans cannot engineer better than nature (at least not over a billion years), and nature is trying to kill/displace us all!
I think you don't understand. With nature nothing, well not many things, happen instantly however put a human in charge and things can change in a blink of the eye. What can take nature a long tyme to create that's deadly a human can to do quickly. Nature didn't make soy that could cause death for humans but humans did. Some people are allergic to Brazil nuts, which could cause death, so those who are allergic avoid them. When a company inserted a gene from the nut into soy it was found that people allergic to Brazil nuts was also allergic to the new soy. Now what would have happened if it had escaped into the wild, like some Windows Viri? It could of led to the death of many people. Allergic people would have to avoid soy as well for fear it may contain the gene. Then take a binary chemical weapon. Two chemicals separately are relatively save but when combined are deadly. Now who's to say GMO 1 plus GMO 2 won't be deadly as well? Nobody can because nobody tests it.
His attitude may not be helpful, but he has a point - YOU are the one making claims without any sort of science to back it up.
He made the baseless claim, that I smashed looms. As for whether what I said has any scientific basis, let's try this:
"Field of RR crops have been suffering infestation of weeds resistant to glyphosate and Roundup for several years. Now, the farmers' worst nightmare has come true. The dreaded palmer pigweed has become Roundup resistant, Monsanto admits [21]. Pigweed is considered one of the very toughest herbicide resistant weeds to deal with, and palmer pigweed especially so, it can get to six feet tall."
I sometimes get the same thing. In cases like this I find News Google a friend, searching for Researchers make chromosomes to order returns 19 articles. The first is the same one as/. links to. And the second is/. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the wiki link. I wonder if it's used in zymurgy, the study of making beer and wine. I might be tempted to use one of these yeasts but there are plenty of fine yeast to use now.
Oh, yes, it happens. Not frequently, but look at how Agrobacterium tumefaciens originally got the properties that makes it great a great tool for GM. There are genes with a clear plant origin inside that bacterium, and as it can infect different species, it can transfer material between them as well.
Basically you can't patent a natural genetic variant you discover and then prevent people from using it as breeding stock.
Actually corporations something like this. Western companies constantly seek out plants and chemical constituents they can patent. This is getting to be a big deal with some aboriginal or native people, they share their knowledge with someone then that person comes and applies for a patent. Biopiracy is getting to be a big issue: "The new piracy: how West 'steals' Africa's plants"
Nobody said it was a space is, IT'S A FUCKING COST ISSUE
Can you please show me where you had said anything about it being a cost issue? Following the parent link I went up the thread and saw nothing about cost except maybe in one of your posts you say "OEMs don't want to waste time installing three different programs that do the same thing.". That says tyme not cost, now you could say tyme is cost but then I replied you could ghost image the drive which does not add a significant amount of tyme. Ghosting hard disk drives actually saves tyme, and money, by eliminating the need to install Windows and any apps included on every drive by hand. There were tymes I would have loved a drive image as I spent hours a bunch of tymes reinstalling just Windows. With a ghost image all I would of had to do is remove the old hdd and install the ghost. Five minutes to exchange drives then maybe the rest of the hour to bootup the PC and make sure things are good to go. It would have saved me a lot of tyme.
My god you are dense
If you can't understand the above I think you're the one who's dense.
My reading skills are fine; you've posted nothing that indicates I misunderstood you, where you clearly didn't read my post correctly. Now you're throwing out geometry, AGAIN missing the point. In case you still have not gotten it, IT'S ABOUT COST, with absolutely ZERO return.
Again, where did you say anything about "COST" before this post I am replying to now. Maybe you thought you mentioned it but I don't see where you actually did.
The whole basis of monsanto's case was that Percy knew the seeds he was planting were roundup ready. The case had nothing to do with accidental contamination.
If a farmer saves seeds for the next planting season it has everything to do with any and all contamination.
I'll like to see a meta analysis of a lot of these studies because different studies make different conclusions. The study I submitted, "Organic farming yields as good or better: study" comes to a different conclusion than the one you provided.
To me, the idea that Mexicans are somehow worse off because they can buy food cheaper, and thus keep more of their own money, seems just bizarre.
Those Mexicans who work can afford food but those who work on farms can't. How's this, from the same source you used: "Mexican Farmers See Death Sentence in NAFTA".Or this one: "NAFTA Equals Death, Say Peasant Farmers". On the first page of Googling "mexican farmers" nafta all of the results are about how Mexican farmers got hammered by NAFTA. Economically the first thing that should matter the most is food security however when farmers have to leave their farms that goes out the window.
Because of a screwy tax credit for ethanol production, corn prices have gone up dramatically, on both sides of the border. (I say screwy because the amount of energy you get out of corn-based ethanol is only marginally higher than they amount you put into making it. Converting sugar, on the other hand, is much more efficient.)
Yeap, all this is is another corporate welfare scheme. As you say sugarcane is a better source for making ethanol, even better is Switchgrass.
Falcon
Perhaps I should say something about food security. While I love technology, for most of my life I wanted to be an engineer or scientist, I also believe like Thomas Jefferson that a national economy should have a solid agricultural foundation. Then each region can trade with others for food that won't grow there to add variety to cuisine.
But then again, like I said, I'm hoping the new release improves Xcode alot.
A few days ago I got a dvd Apple mailed me with updated kits and tools.
Eclipse may not be your thing if you are ONLY developing for Mac because you don't have to worry about a cross platform IDE
I'm new at this so I don't think I'll be doing much development or programming 'til I learn more. However the first thing I want to do is program a native port of HTTrack website copier. I've used the Windows version as well as a linux version for kde and I like the gui interface, from what I could find though while the current version for Macs runs in X11 it still uses the command line. Once I have a native port running I would like to work on a suit of apps for photographers, one package with a photo editor, accounting software, bidding software, a database, and general software for running a business, as well as a means for photographers to create a website so that they could find a host and create an online portfolio and maybe a store. I want to use open source programs for each of these that already exists however I want to create a software bundle where everything can be installed at one tyme and then have it use an integrated interface. For instance within the editor call up a customer's contract then have the photos added to the database and create an entry into the account's billings. Since many photographers still use Macs and I want to work in photography myself and I use a Mac I'd make it native Mac, then later work on porting it to Linux and or Windows.
Simple, two organisms with differing numbers of chromosomes cannot crossbreed (barring extraordinarily exceptional cases, and not including cases of simple duplication of a "normal" chromosome, usually). When the germ cells try to unite to form a diploid cell that becomes the offspring, it simply fails because things don't "line up"
Thanks for that, unlike the person who replied to me before you did, you used reason to try to convince me I made a mistake. However until I see scientific, and real world, evidence this won't happen I'll keep the belief it's possible. GE companies like Monsanto have already stated terminator technology won't allow gene transfer, however science has proven it already is happening.
First, I would like to say that "high school biology courses" does not count as studying biology. Not in any stretch of the imagination.
If you had RTFA you would of read where I said I also took biology in college. Now if that doesn't count as studying biology I want to know what your definition of studying is. On the other hand I don't find it useful to continue this if you won't read all of what I say or you're defining word differently.
Using the parent link, I went up to the top to read your post, on this thread.
and stop pretending that you already know what conclusion I was leading you towards.
I have no idea what you're talking about. You told me to check up on what the mitochondria and I let you know I knew about the mitochondria. I may not, no I know I do not, know everything about it but I know some about the mitochondria.
Its just that, now we can introduce desirable mutations ourselves, rather than going out and trying to stumble across an instance where nature has introduced the mutation for us (through UV radiation or whatnot).
Yea and possibly create something undesirable quickly instead of letting nature tkae it's tyme to see if any problems will be created. Yea, while nature does propagate mutations it doesn't insert fish genes into tomatoes. If you can prove me wrong do so, I'd like to see some data and studies. After reading and evaluating it I may change my beliefs. Meanwhile companies like Monsanto say gene transfer will be prevented by terminator technology yet it's already been shown it DOES NOT work. Even with so called terminator tech used genes have already been shown to crossbreed. When a UC professor took native corn samples from Mexico and showed they had Monsanto's genes Monsanto did what they could to discredit not just the research but the professor as well. Monsanto did the same to a scientist in England, or Ireland, when he showed results that a GE potato was harmful to lab animals.
Percy Schmeiser did in fact specifically plant RR canola (not corn, you illiterate fuckwit).
Np points for you, instead of simply thinking and using reason correcting you've got to start name calling. I'll debate with someone, who may affect a change in my thinking, but not anyone who can't be civil.
Exactly. The government should be prohibited from asking the airline who is on the plane, and the airline should be prohibited from telling them, under ANY circumstances.
Agreed 1000%.
And money wasted by preventing "terrorism" is money that could save many more lives if spent on healthcare.
Do you have any evidence or proof this is true? Here's an article about one study that shows organics, which bans GE and GMOs, produces as much if not more than conventional farming: "Organic farming yields as good or better: study".
Lower prices mean fewer people starving, and more savings. It's a good thing.
Wrong. There are 3 major causes of hunger and starvation in the world: conflicts, fighting, and wars; politics; and the massive subsidies the First World ie the EU, Japan, and the US gives to agribusinesses. Conflicts, fighting, and wars make it hard for farmers to farm. Then politicians take perfectly good farm land and ruin it. It used to be that Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of southern Africa. However once president Robert Mugabe came to power he forced most of if not all of the white farmers off their farms and gave the farms to his cronies. Now Zimbabwe is a basket case and instead of exporting a lot of food, food has to be imported and still people are starving. Then there are the massive subsidies. Did you know that because of the billions of dollars the US federal government gives to massive agribusinesses in the US they are able to grow, then ship, and sell food in Mexico for cheaper than Mexican farmers can grow food? Mexican farmers are forced off their farms because US agribusinesses want their billions of dollars in corporate welfare. Where are those farmers going to go? They either go north and try to cross the border and become so called "illegal immigrants" or aliens; or they move into Mexican cities. And since those cities are already bursting at the seams, those already in the cities try to cross the border.
Actually for those people in the US who want to stop the flow of Mexicans into the US then get on your senators and representatives and tell them to stop giving large businesses like Cargill and Archer Daniel Midlands, ADM, billions of your dollars.
Did you RTFA? This article IS NOT about inserting genes from one species into another, it's about creating entirely new chromosomes and being able to insert them into an organism, the key phrase being "Creating an artificial chromosome".
You mean like the hybrids we've been creating since the agricultural revolution?
Selective breeding to choose those traits that are desired is compleatly different than inserting a gene, or in this case a chromosome, that is not already there into a GMO.
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Of course, it makes you wonder, why couldn't they create some disease to kill the cane toad off? Or destroy opium poppies etc.
They better leave their hands off of opium! It's the only source of money some have, the US and Aghan gpvernments promised aid so they could make money from other things but the aid was never provided.
Here we have the Taliban in Afghanistan benefiting from the opium trade, yet early in his first term Bush gave the Taliban US taxpayer money supposedly for fighting against opium.
FalconOk, thanks for sharing those. So FDA, EPA, and USDA all regulate GMOs. A day is wasted if nothing is learned.
FalconIf you read the article carefully, you will note that it doesn't contradict what I wrote.
Perhaps I chose the wrong case, but what I was replying to, about patenting a plant variety, still happens. Now in one case patents were revoked only after they were contested, RiceTec was granted patents for strains of Basmati rice. These strains are native to India and India fought the patents and eventual won.
FalconNo, I meant Triffids, a fictional GMO that destroys civilization.
Ok, I don't recall ever hearing about the book.
FalconSo was my source. Though it was an article from Reuters, it was about what "Ivette Perfecto, a professor at the University of Michigan's school of Natural Resources and Environment" found out. Does your article count as science but not mine?
Note, for example, that while Mexican corn farmers are going out of business, Mexican Avacado farmers are doing well. Mexico's total exports to the US have more than doubled since NAFTA.
Do you have any links I can read? I try to keep an open mind so it's possible it can be changed. With 1 exception, Chapter 11. A good example of why I don't like it is given in the wiki article:
"Methanex, a Canadian corporation, filed a US$970 million suit against the United States, claiming that a California ban on MTBE, a substance that had found its way into many wells in the state, was hurtful to the corporation's sales of methanol. However, the claim was rejected, and the company was ordered to pay US$3 million to the U.S. government in costs[36]"
If Methanex had won California would have to allow Methanex to sale a known cancer causer in the state where it could pollute more drinking water.
FalconYour argument just doesn't make sense. Nature has ahd billions of years, randomly mutating. If after billions of years no organism has taken over completely, it is not possible. Humans cannot engineer better than nature (at least not over a billion years), and nature is trying to kill/displace us all!
I think you don't understand. With nature nothing, well not many things, happen instantly however put a human in charge and things can change in a blink of the eye. What can take nature a long tyme to create that's deadly a human can to do quickly. Nature didn't make soy that could cause death for humans but humans did. Some people are allergic to Brazil nuts, which could cause death, so those who are allergic avoid them. When a company inserted a gene from the nut into soy it was found that people allergic to Brazil nuts was also allergic to the new soy. Now what would have happened if it had escaped into the wild, like some Windows Viri? It could of led to the death of many people. Allergic people would have to avoid soy as well for fear it may contain the gene. Then take a binary chemical weapon. Two chemicals separately are relatively save but when combined are deadly. Now who's to say GMO 1 plus GMO 2 won't be deadly as well? Nobody can because nobody tests it.
FalconHis attitude may not be helpful, but he has a point - YOU are the one making claims without any sort of science to back it up.
He made the baseless claim, that I smashed looms. As for whether what I said has any scientific basis, let's try this:
"Field of RR crops have been suffering infestation of weeds resistant to glyphosate and Roundup for several years. Now, the farmers' worst nightmare has come true. The dreaded palmer pigweed has become Roundup resistant, Monsanto admits [21]. Pigweed is considered one of the very toughest herbicide resistant weeds to deal with, and palmer pigweed especially so, it can get to six feet tall."
Slashdot even had an article on superweeds:
" GM Crops Create Herbicide-resistant 'Superweed'">.
FalconOne deadly to the specific organism, no. One deadly to the surrounding ecosystem, yes. The Triffids are coming.
Don't you mean Tribbles?
Falconto a subscription page.
I sometimes get the same thing. In cases like this I find News Google a friend, searching for Researchers make chromosomes to order returns 19 articles. The first is the same one as /. links to. And the second is /. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the wiki link. I wonder if it's used in zymurgy, the study of making beer and wine. I might be tempted to use one of these yeasts but there are plenty of fine yeast to use now.
FalconOh, yes, it happens. Not frequently, but look at how Agrobacterium tumefaciens originally got the properties that makes it great a great tool for GM. There are genes with a clear plant origin inside that bacterium, and as it can infect different species, it can transfer material between them as well.
I stand, er sit, corrected. In a previous post someone brought up Horizonal Gene Transfer.
FalconBasically you can't patent a natural genetic variant you discover and then prevent people from using it as breeding stock.
Actually corporations something like this. Western companies constantly seek out plants and chemical constituents they can patent. This is getting to be a big deal with some aboriginal or native people, they share their knowledge with someone then that person comes and applies for a patent. Biopiracy is getting to be a big issue: "The new piracy: how West 'steals' Africa's plants"
FalconNobody said it was a space is, IT'S A FUCKING COST ISSUE
Can you please show me where you had said anything about it being a cost issue? Following the parent link I went up the thread and saw nothing about cost except maybe in one of your posts you say "OEMs don't want to waste time installing three different programs that do the same thing.". That says tyme not cost, now you could say tyme is cost but then I replied you could ghost image the drive which does not add a significant amount of tyme. Ghosting hard disk drives actually saves tyme, and money, by eliminating the need to install Windows and any apps included on every drive by hand. There were tymes I would have loved a drive image as I spent hours a bunch of tymes reinstalling just Windows. With a ghost image all I would of had to do is remove the old hdd and install the ghost. Five minutes to exchange drives then maybe the rest of the hour to bootup the PC and make sure things are good to go. It would have saved me a lot of tyme.
My god you are dense
If you can't understand the above I think you're the one who's dense.
My reading skills are fine; you've posted nothing that indicates I misunderstood you, where you clearly didn't read my post correctly. Now you're throwing out geometry, AGAIN missing the point. In case you still have not gotten it, IT'S ABOUT COST, with absolutely ZERO return.
Again, where did you say anything about "COST" before this post I am replying to now. Maybe you thought you mentioned it but I don't see where you actually did.
FalconThe whole basis of monsanto's case was that Percy knew the seeds he was planting were roundup ready. The case had nothing to do with accidental contamination.
If a farmer saves seeds for the next planting season it has everything to do with any and all contamination.
FalconAs far as evidence goes, check out http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0531-05.htm , referring to an article in Science.
I'll like to see a meta analysis of a lot of these studies because different studies make different conclusions. The study I submitted, "Organic farming yields as good or better: study" comes to a different conclusion than the one you provided.
To me, the idea that Mexicans are somehow worse off because they can buy food cheaper, and thus keep more of their own money, seems just bizarre.
Those Mexicans who work can afford food but those who work on farms can't. How's this, from the same source you used: "Mexican Farmers See Death Sentence in NAFTA".Or this one: "NAFTA Equals Death, Say Peasant Farmers". On the first page of Googling "mexican farmers" nafta all of the results are about how Mexican farmers got hammered by NAFTA. Economically the first thing that should matter the most is food security however when farmers have to leave their farms that goes out the window.
Because of a screwy tax credit for ethanol production, corn prices have gone up dramatically, on both sides of the border. (I say screwy because the amount of energy you get out of corn-based ethanol is only marginally higher than they amount you put into making it. Converting sugar, on the other hand, is much more efficient.)
Yeap, all this is is another corporate welfare scheme. As you say sugarcane is a better source for making ethanol, even better is Switchgrass.
Falcon
Perhaps I should say something about food security. While I love technology, for most of my life I wanted to be an engineer or scientist, I also believe like Thomas Jefferson that a national economy should have a solid agricultural foundation. Then each region can trade with others for food that won't grow there to add variety to cuisine.But then again, like I said, I'm hoping the new release improves Xcode alot.
A few days ago I got a dvd Apple mailed me with updated kits and tools.
Eclipse may not be your thing if you are ONLY developing for Mac because you don't have to worry about a cross platform IDE
I'm new at this so I don't think I'll be doing much development or programming 'til I learn more. However the first thing I want to do is program a native port of HTTrack website copier. I've used the Windows version as well as a linux version for kde and I like the gui interface, from what I could find though while the current version for Macs runs in X11 it still uses the command line. Once I have a native port running I would like to work on a suit of apps for photographers, one package with a photo editor, accounting software, bidding software, a database, and general software for running a business, as well as a means for photographers to create a website so that they could find a host and create an online portfolio and maybe a store. I want to use open source programs for each of these that already exists however I want to create a software bundle where everything can be installed at one tyme and then have it use an integrated interface. For instance within the editor call up a customer's contract then have the photos added to the database and create an entry into the account's billings. Since many photographers still use Macs and I want to work in photography myself and I use a Mac I'd make it native Mac, then later work on porting it to Linux and or Windows.
FalconSimple, two organisms with differing numbers of chromosomes cannot crossbreed (barring extraordinarily exceptional cases, and not including cases of simple duplication of a "normal" chromosome, usually). When the germ cells try to unite to form a diploid cell that becomes the offspring, it simply fails because things don't "line up"
Thanks for that, unlike the person who replied to me before you did, you used reason to try to convince me I made a mistake. However until I see scientific, and real world, evidence this won't happen I'll keep the belief it's possible. GE companies like Monsanto have already stated terminator technology won't allow gene transfer, however science has proven it already is happening.
FalconFirst, I would like to say that "high school biology courses" does not count as studying biology. Not in any stretch of the imagination.
If you had RTFA you would of read where I said I also took biology in college. Now if that doesn't count as studying biology I want to know what your definition of studying is. On the other hand I don't find it useful to continue this if you won't read all of what I say or you're defining word differently.
FalconUsing the parent link, I went up to the top to read your post, on this thread.
and stop pretending that you already know what conclusion I was leading you towards.
I have no idea what you're talking about. You told me to check up on what the mitochondria and I let you know I knew about the mitochondria. I may not, no I know I do not, know everything about it but I know some about the mitochondria.
FalconIts just that, now we can introduce desirable mutations ourselves, rather than going out and trying to stumble across an instance where nature has introduced the mutation for us (through UV radiation or whatnot).
Yea and possibly create something undesirable quickly instead of letting nature tkae it's tyme to see if any problems will be created. Yea, while nature does propagate mutations it doesn't insert fish genes into tomatoes. If you can prove me wrong do so, I'd like to see some data and studies. After reading and evaluating it I may change my beliefs. Meanwhile companies like Monsanto say gene transfer will be prevented by terminator technology yet it's already been shown it DOES NOT work. Even with so called terminator tech used genes have already been shown to crossbreed. When a UC professor took native corn samples from Mexico and showed they had Monsanto's genes Monsanto did what they could to discredit not just the research but the professor as well. Monsanto did the same to a scientist in England, or Ireland, when he showed results that a GE potato was harmful to lab animals.
FalconCan you guaranty that? Or are you just a troll?
But don't let that detract from your loom smashing.
I don't smash anything but of course you've got to makeup things about me instead of letting me know where I'm wrong.
FalconPercy Schmeiser did in fact specifically plant RR canola (not corn, you illiterate fuckwit).
Np points for you, instead of simply thinking and using reason correcting you've got to start name calling. I'll debate with someone, who may affect a change in my thinking, but not anyone who can't be civil.
FalconExactly. The government should be prohibited from asking the airline who is on the plane, and the airline should be prohibited from telling them, under ANY circumstances.
Agreed 1000%.
And money wasted by preventing "terrorism" is money that could save many more lives if spent on healthcare.
Again I agree.
FalconIt means that farmers get better yields
Do you have any evidence or proof this is true? Here's an article about one study that shows organics, which bans GE and GMOs, produces as much if not more than conventional farming: "Organic farming yields as good or better: study".
Lower prices mean fewer people starving, and more savings. It's a good thing.
Wrong. There are 3 major causes of hunger and starvation in the world: conflicts, fighting, and wars; politics; and the massive subsidies the First World ie the EU, Japan, and the US gives to agribusinesses. Conflicts, fighting, and wars make it hard for farmers to farm. Then politicians take perfectly good farm land and ruin it. It used to be that Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of southern Africa. However once president Robert Mugabe came to power he forced most of if not all of the white farmers off their farms and gave the farms to his cronies. Now Zimbabwe is a basket case and instead of exporting a lot of food, food has to be imported and still people are starving. Then there are the massive subsidies. Did you know that because of the billions of dollars the US federal government gives to massive agribusinesses in the US they are able to grow, then ship, and sell food in Mexico for cheaper than Mexican farmers can grow food? Mexican farmers are forced off their farms because US agribusinesses want their billions of dollars in corporate welfare. Where are those farmers going to go? They either go north and try to cross the border and become so called "illegal immigrants" or aliens; or they move into Mexican cities. And since those cities are already bursting at the seams, those already in the cities try to cross the border.
Actually for those people in the US who want to stop the flow of Mexicans into the US then get on your senators and representatives and tell them to stop giving large businesses like Cargill and Archer Daniel Midlands, ADM, billions of your dollars.
FalconDid you RTFA? This article IS NOT about inserting genes from one species into another, it's about creating entirely new chromosomes and being able to insert them into an organism, the key phrase being "Creating an artificial chromosome".
FalconYou mean like the hybrids we've been creating since the agricultural revolution?
Selective breeding to choose those traits that are desired is compleatly different than inserting a gene, or in this case a chromosome, that is not already there into a GMO.
Falcon