If Red Hat (or at least a company from another EU country like Mandrake) gave a cheaper bid, would they have to go with that one?
I am no expert, but these rules are not difficult to bend somewhat in the prefered direction: cost is only one of the elements that you consider when you choose which company you'll appoint for the job. It's the objective one. Other elements such as quality, "fitness", etc. are more subjective and can be used to justify you choice.
One of the obvious justification for choosing Suse is that being a German company, their products certainly offer a better support for the German language, support will be at hand and available in German, etc.
This does not matter if they have payed around $12.5 million to SuSE, because that stays within the German economy.
Exactly! Surely most countries are not very happy to pay billions to a foreign company for virtual goods. Suse is a German company, and most of the programmers and "instructors" who will be paid to accomplish the transition are German too.
Well I could cite the absurdity of Sam's dismissal by Frodo, the devastated character of Faramir, the utter uncredibility of Sauron's 2 megawatts projector-eye, the overwhelming incoherency of the Dead being able to destroy the Orcs (Gimli was right then! just keep them a bit longer, and Sauron's army is no more), etc. But this is just net-picking.
On the other hand, there are some really bad, sad points, like Aragorn saying "Havo dad!" to Legolas... Even the most feebleminded uncultivated person couldn't overlook the fact that "sit down" shouldn't be literally translated "havo" "sit", "dad" "down" in elvish. I mean, how many languages in the world use this parituclar idiom, beside English? How sad... would have been a wonderful movie...
The best part I think is Fixed AGP failures on some VIA motherboards: minion.de has been proposing a good patch for 2.6 kernels for long, while this AGP issue was really boring. I hope it really works better now.
I did read your whole post, and know it was written before this latest news. I'm sorry if you got confused. I first intended to write "I'm glad the latest news prove you wrong" but thought it would be inappropriate, especially when you consider the content of my post. Anyway my post was stupid and useless, and so is this one...
"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him."
I think we have here the essence of the GNU GPL.
You have to accept that for some people (among whom the FSF) turning a free sowtware into proprietary software is really committing such an aggression on the equal rights of the whole society. And so there is here a limit to the freedom they want to give to other people. Just like you don't want to allow murder, etc. The freedom of the individual who may want to kill is diminished, right. But the question is: what value do you attach to this "freedom"? Is it even desirable?
So when you say:
The GPL is not as free, in that it places more restrictions on the codeuse. Whether or not these restrictions *are to ensure that the code stays as free as possible* are irrelavent to the freedom of the license itself.
I agree.
But then you say:
Thus the choice is not "which is more free",it is "what is more important for this code; absolute freedom not guaranteed to continue, or less freedom, but guaranteed to continue?
Maybe it's the choice for you, but not for those who consider that the freedom lost isn't worth anything, or even that this "freedom" is bad.
If you just don't value the freedom lost, your choice is between "absolute freedom not guaranteed to continue" and "virtually absolute freedom guaranteed to continue". If you consider it evil, then it's also a choice between "freedom even to commit "crime"" and "freedom as long as you respect (the freedom of) other people".
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If Red Hat (or at least a company from another EU country like Mandrake) gave a cheaper bid, would they have to go with that one? I am no expert, but these rules are not difficult to bend somewhat in the prefered direction: cost is only one of the elements that you consider when you choose which company you'll appoint for the job. It's the objective one. Other elements such as quality, "fitness", etc. are more subjective and can be used to justify you choice. One of the obvious justification for choosing Suse is that being a German company, their products certainly offer a better support for the German language, support will be at hand and available in German, etc.
This does not matter if they have payed around $12.5 million to SuSE, because that stays within the German economy.
Exactly! Surely most countries are not very happy to pay billions to a foreign company for virtual goods. Suse is a German company, and most of the programmers and "instructors" who will be paid to accomplish the transition are German too.
Well I could cite the absurdity of Sam's dismissal by Frodo, the devastated character of Faramir, the utter uncredibility of Sauron's 2 megawatts projector-eye, the overwhelming incoherency of the Dead being able to destroy the Orcs (Gimli was right then! just keep them a bit longer, and Sauron's army is no more), etc. But this is just net-picking.
On the other hand, there are some really bad, sad points, like Aragorn saying "Havo dad!" to Legolas... Even the most feebleminded uncultivated person couldn't overlook the fact that "sit down" shouldn't be literally translated "havo" "sit", "dad" "down" in elvish. I mean, how many languages in the world use this parituclar idiom, beside English? How sad... would have been a wonderful movie...
Well I'm sure you meant "debian stable", since these new drivers are already part of the (not so) unstable debian distribution!
The best part I think is Fixed AGP failures on some VIA motherboards: minion.de has been proposing a good patch for 2.6 kernels for long, while this AGP issue was really boring. I hope it really works better now.
I did read your whole post, and know it was written before this latest news. I'm sorry if you got confused. I first intended to write "I'm glad the latest news prove you wrong" but thought it would be inappropriate, especially when you consider the content of my post. Anyway my post was stupid and useless, and so is this one...
What happened Bruce? Someone figure out your password finally?
This is needlessly insulting. What's more, the latest news prove you wrong (or so it seems at least).
There is one big difference: here you have a Debian operating system running FreeBSD.
Some people just love Debian, yet may be interested in running a FreeBSD kernel.
Thomas Jefferson said:
"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him."
I think we have here the essence of the GNU GPL.
You have to accept that for some people (among whom the FSF) turning a free sowtware into proprietary software is really committing such an aggression on the equal rights of the whole society. And so there is here a limit to the freedom they want to give to other people. Just like you don't want to allow murder, etc. The freedom of the individual who may want to kill is diminished, right. But the question is: what value do you attach to this "freedom"? Is it even desirable?
So when you say:
The GPL is not as free, in that it places more restrictions on the codeuse. Whether or not these restrictions *are to ensure that the code stays as free as possible* are irrelavent to the freedom of the license itself.
I agree.
But then you say:
Thus the choice is not "which is more free",it is "what is more important for this code; absolute freedom not guaranteed to continue, or less freedom, but guaranteed to continue?
Maybe it's the choice for you, but not for those who consider that the freedom lost isn't worth anything, or even that this "freedom" is bad.
If you just don't value the freedom lost, your choice is between "absolute freedom not guaranteed to continue" and "virtually absolute freedom guaranteed to continue". If you consider it evil, then it's also a choice between "freedom even to commit "crime"" and "freedom as long as you respect (the freedom of) other people".
No. The GNU people insist on the difference between "not gratis" and "proprietary". See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html