I have actually ran into a few situations where people wanted to contribute in some way, but, didn't seem capable of doing the above, or not to the extent considered 'well' (being able to write coherent information makes a lot of that invalid by default, even though they really try).
When it comes to art, I generally never mention it because people who are good at 'arty' type stuff tend to suggest that they can do this sort of stuff. Otherwise you end up in a situation where some people actually try to do some art and are really bad at it.. Yet see their artwork as really good and get quite upset when the project completely rejects their art work entirely, thus harming the project.
The bottom line is, the only way shooting the laptop makes any sense is if they believed that there was some kind of explosive hidden within it that needed to be safely discharged away from people and given the context, even that sounds like bullshit given that they saw the computer working.
It makes more sense to me that they felt she was anti-Israeli and abused their powers to teach her a 'lesson'. I don't know how you can only draw the conclusion it could be only some truly legitimate reason.
I've never heard of such crazyness What's the world coming to
Used to be worse in the past. See the old check points in Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia etc. As for the world coming to? Seems better now that what it used to be.
Anyone who gets their history lessons from Maddox's "The Best Page in the Universe" is a FUCKING. MORON.
And now, for a funny retort to that list, the War Nerd.
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Ha! Shows what you know. We're the most humble country in the world. We have way more humility than anyone else, the reason you don't see it is that it has to cover so much awesomeness.I can't tell if he's being serious or satirical.
I have a 20Mbit "unlimited" connection with Virgin Media, and if I download a large amount of data in one go, say 5GB+, the bandwidth drops to 5Mbit after 4GB's or so, then goes back upto 20MBits after a few hours of not downloading.. Coincidence? I dont think so.
Virgin is actually one of the mainstream ISPs that are doing caps for all users (as compared to BT, who only do caps on congested areas at peak times), maybe you should have investigated a bit before going with them? http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html
Great! Since the days of Quake, level editors have become quite a bit more complicated, and though SketchUp! seemed like a great way to quickly make some maps, things like concave/convex planes etc. quickly made me abandon my own attempts at making L4D levels. Now with this guide I might make a good start.
To be honest, I find this harder than building in Second life.
Well considering I mentioned stores like Walmart, Best Buy, and staples I figured you would know I am talking about the good old USA.
We have Walmart in the UK, Best buy too and Staples (although more widely known as 'niceday' here).
I have no doubt there are some countries where you CAN find a penguin on the box. Funny how those same countries also have Windows piracy rates that are out of this world, huh?
What the hell are you talking about? I mean, beyond Poland, all the other countries I mentioned don't really have high piracy rates at all. What are you going to do next, claim that the British pound or the Euro is worth less than the dollar?
You see, we don't actually keep old shit by and large, we just toss that crap out.
I'm not taking about old hardware, I'm talking about new hardware that just came out for Windows, Vista comes along at the same time and it remains broken, then the same thing happened recently with Windows 7 and here is the fun thing: They are still manufacturing the hardware even though it's incompatible with windows 7 still. Linux is certainly a lot better at keeping backwards compatibility than Windows is in many cases, but of course not all, so I don't buy your arguments still on hardware compatibility. I don't see how Windows is doing that significantly better as you claim.
And you have "stable ABIs", what, are you high or just trying to throw crap at the wall and hope something sticks? tell you what, take ANY driver written...ohh lets say 5 years ago and try to run it on the latest Ubuntu
Five years ago there wasn't as much usermode driver support, so you won't find many from that time period. However, I did indulge you - I decided to test a old lexmark z45 printer just for a bit of fun to prove this. So I grabbed the printer driver from an extremely old mandrake Linux install cd (admittedly this was somewhat difficult to extract at first), deleted the 'latest' version off current Ubuntu's unstall and stuck the old one on there, forced manual configuration to use that driver (rather than letting it automatically choosing the latest and greatest) and behold, it printed out and worked fine.
Ubuntu is THE friendly Linux, right? Go to their forums after ANY point release and see how many "update foo broke my device"
This is no different from the Apple support forums or the billion support forums dealing with Windows. Hell, I can give you a tonne of fun stories of how Apple screwed over a lot of people with poor driver support for certain revisions of hardware in OS X updates. I just don't see how it is any worse on Linux than it is Windows or OS X honestly.The AC97 has been out since 19 fucking 97, and you STILL have it being broken every time you turn around?
It is? You know, I was aware of a few problems with Intel HDA but AC97? Surely you jest. Now sound on Linux, sure, I can agree it's broken in some places and maybe when distros stop shipping defaults for stuff like OSS compatability being enabled will we resolve most of these issues, there is crap like Adobe flash that insists on using OSS, which, once OSS is in use by any application, no sound mixing can take place. However, speaking of sound APIs, I can't even get a modern game like UT3 to play in game dialog in windows 7 because some sound API is broken (there is no solution to the problem I have currently there).
WinXP is supported until 2014!
Mainstream supported ended in 14/04/2009, but it's not like the support really matters, after all so much hardware and software was made unusable between every single service pack version, this rarely happens on most Linux distros due to the upgrade policy is to fix bugs and security issues, not to do substantial changes to the OS that breaks stuff. You can't expect the 'still supported' versions of Windows t
"High end workstations" is your big answer? that is....what? 0.002% of the market?
Way to go taking things out of context.
Or do you honestly think that the kid working minimum wage at the electronics counter at Walmart could tell a customer which devices work in Linux?
The kid working minimum wage at the electronics counter at Walmart would tell me anything to sell something, I'm not naive.
By "free tech support" I'm assuming a LUG, yes?
Nope, community support sponsored by the city, when I was living in Szczecin at the time. Nothing to do with the Linux community or such.
but if you compared the amount of completely non functional Windrivers to the amount of paperweights you get playing Linux paperweight roulette I'm sure we both know who would have more non functioning hardware, and it AIN'T Windows.
I'm not convinced, in the recent years I've seen far more hardware that was bought which didn't support new versions of Windows and did support Linux, so I can't really say either way.
We are discussing what it will take to get Linux into every mom & pop, into Walmart, into best Buy, into Staples. We are talking about what it will take to get REAL traction.
I'm not, I'm pointing out a lot of bullshit ideas which don't get any traction. We have stable ABIs and usermode driver support for printing, scanning, tablets, audio, tv tuners and loads of other device types that I can't recall right now - So where is this, magical commercial support you were talking about? Because Linux has it for most types of hardware, just not graphic cards, motherboard controllers, PCI controllers and when you buy Linux supported hardware from stores it has never came with a magic driver CD - I doubt this would even get more proprietary support since the other areas aren't.
With Linux? "Well...you are gonna have go to the distro home page, then trawl their forums and do research on brands that work, then compile a list and take it shopping with you, OH! And if you get one that is Firmware F and the "fix", which is 3 pages of CLI written by some guy that has hardware kinda sorta like yours, but not really?
I just go down to PC world and look for the penguin on the box, it isn't difficult.
Until I can just say "Look for the fat penguin on the box. Happy Shopping!"
Uh, yeah. No idea why/you/ can't, but/I/ certainly can, they've had the Linux stickers for years on boxes and this isn't a single country thing, because I've moved through quite a few countries (Germany, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, UK) and seen them.
Nope. To be perfectly honest, the majority of hardware manufacturers just don't give a shit about Linux. Especially when they can get drivers and such implemented for free by just giving the specs. I'm not even exaggerating about this. This is nothing to do with the Linux driver models. Hell, there are user mode drivers that are fully implementable for various devices in Linux for the majority of devices including modems, scanners, printers and god knows what.. And guess what? No proprietary drivers, where they would work, so I deem the majority of what you have stated as complete bullshit. Especially since this is a rehersed argument that is only true for a very small amount of hardware that requires it to sit in the kernel with an unstable ABI and the hardware that does sit in the kernel is in the majority of cases, fully supported (graphic cards, ethernet, motherboard controllers).
Linux is all about freedom, right? So why can you only have RMS style freedom, and nobody else's?
You have the freedom to make your own distro that does that. Nobody is stopping you directly from doing this, of course, you'll probably continue whining instead of doing anything about it. Not that a stable ABI will really mean more support for graphic card drivers, motherboard controllers etc.
Now as for bad Windrivers...dude, that is what? 3 devices out of 30 million+?
When I was still doing computer service, quite regular actually. I'd say there is certainly a large amount of faulty ones.
Working in a PC shop I have seen just about every hardware/software combo you can possibly imagine, and in all these years I can name the amount of truly POS BSOD causing Windrivers on one hand with fingers left over.
I have worked in both shops and even free tech support services. The latter has revealed a lot of horrible, horrible crud you would not believe. Most people avoid commercialized support if they can, which is why I am not convinced you have seen as much as I have. Not only this, but I some how doubt you even go to the troubles I do to diagnosing the problems, I've ended up debugging problems where by the divx encoder codec was crashing, upon debugging extensively I found it was an issue to do with the fact the AMD's processor's errata for that revision, model of processor was returning bad responses to SSE2 instructions. I some how doubt that your 'support' even reaches the scale I have done. I mean seriously, when it comes to hardware and software support, comparing my own experience to what you have stated, and my knowledge of most common tech guys in shops, I am not convinced at all by your 'arguments'.
And as for the "high end graphics card" was an nVidia card, wasn't it?
Both ATi and nVidia cards.
This is why I warn my customers NEVER to buy bleeding edge hardware from the graphics card manufacturers, as BOTH have a nasty habit of making badass hardware and then punting it out the door with alpha quality drivers.
While some were bleeding edges, there were those that were not bleeding edge either, some hardware had been known to have such issues and was not fixed in later revisions of the same model, so your advice is not very helpful here.
unless that changes Linux will stay a niche hobbyist OS
Okay, now I know for certain you're a troll. Since you completely ignore everything from high end workstations using Linux (which is why nVidia to support it - due to large customers using these), commercialized servers, mobile phones, DVRs etc. all built with Linux.
I call bullshit on the majority of your argument.
FYI: I am platform agnostic, I hate all current operating systems.
I've owned both a Skype phone s1 and s2, this has never happened to me and I am a heavy skype user.
they are very picky about which skype aplication is used.
I've conversed with others using skype on windows, linux, mac and various mobile versions, can't say I have/ever/ experienced this. It's not like this happened 1% of the time, this never ever happened which makes me suspicious about the truth of your post.
They hammered my call credit while using "free skype" probably confused due to my phone not bein one they sell.
I've used the phone since it first came out, at one point there was a limit for 4000 minutes when it first came out but that quickly went away.
Voip seems to be an issue although they literally say nothing about sip they do appear to block the ports.
On my Three 3g internet dongle SIP is not blocked at all. Are you sure you didn't purchase the web browsing plan instead of the unlimited internet plans.. The web browsing one appears to block all ports but 80 and 443.
Violent games don't turn kids into violent criminal. But bad parenting (or no parenting at all!) sure can.
Every time I hear: "Oh, my Johnny was such a nice boy, until he played those violent games. They turned him into a violent rapist and killer!"
Of course, even good parenting can't help with some individuals. This is often seen in families where they are bringing up multiple children and one of them turns into a drug addict, alcoholic, various crime things - even though all the other kids turned out to be upstanding citizens. I don't think video games make children into violent criminals, but I don't think all of this is a result of bad parenting either.
They don't have the courage to tell the general public: "Look, please spend more time with your children."
I don't think spending more time with your kids is necessarily healthy or a good idea either.
For the record, I and all of my friends (we're 17) play violent video games, but we are capable of distinguishing between real life and the games ourselves.
Non-sense! Only 18 year olds truely understand.
You should be playing games like Pokemon and battling out horribly drawn creatures till they 'faint' instead of 'die'.
As an American who moved to Australia a few years ago and married into citizenship, I actually support Australia's strong stance against violent video games and a violent society. The contrast is especially strong when you return to the states for a month or two.
And yet the rest of the world has these 'violent video games' and the contrast varies greatly from country to country. Hell, just try to tell me that these violent video games are making people in Switzerland more violent than those in Australia. Seriously...
Can you give me a 100% guarantee that my customers can shop at Walmart/Best Buy/Staples and have ZERO chance of getting a paperweight?
I can't even give a guarantee with hardware that has the Windows logo testing on it.
Example 1: Windows XP logo tested wireless hardware, works perfectly on pre-SP2 systems, on SP2 systems, it blue screens and there are no updated drivers for it.
Example 2: Highend graphic card that is 'Vista ready' and uses DX10 does not really work well and constantly causes the system to lockup or blue screen.
etc.
With Windows I can say "see this pretty little flag on the box? See how it says "certified for Windows 7"? Yeah, that's you. Just look for that and you are good".
We the above examples, I have to say, bullshit. Especially since I've seen so many, many, many driver issues with that lovely little windows logo on the box.
Make it so hardware manufacturers can put Linux drivers on the CD and a penguin on the box without having to keep an assload of driver developers on hand just to try to keep up with the shifting sand that is Linux right now.
They don't even need to do that, just contribute the drivers to kernel upstream - No CD required or anything.
That's not surprising, it's not like they've updated their stuff in years.
Look at the PC, where Linux adoption to the desktop hovers for a decade at a few percent.
I've seen greater amounts of Linux users on websites I manage actually, also I've been noticing more and more Linux on various desktops systems in countries I've lived in, businesses, homes etc. I think I saw the most in Germany. So, I'd certainly say Linux is growing and not just hovering at a small install base.
Why doesn't open source take over then?
Ask a stupid question... For the same reason the majority of other proprietary systems don't take over.
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This is why the only documentation I tend to update these days is my own or a wiki.
I have actually ran into a few situations where people wanted to contribute in some way, but, didn't seem capable of doing the above, or not to the extent considered 'well' (being able to write coherent information makes a lot of that invalid by default, even though they really try).
When it comes to art, I generally never mention it because people who are good at 'arty' type stuff tend to suggest that they can do this sort of stuff. Otherwise you end up in a situation where some people actually try to do some art and are really bad at it.. Yet see their artwork as really good and get quite upset when the project completely rejects their art work entirely, thus harming the project.
It makes more sense to me that they felt she was anti-Israeli and abused their powers to teach her a 'lesson'. I don't know how you can only draw the conclusion it could be only some truly legitimate reason.
Used to be worse in the past. See the old check points in Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia etc. As for the world coming to? Seems better now that what it used to be.
Chipped PS3s have been around for some time, just to my knowledge, there isn't any that does online play yet.
No, it isn't legal. Just because it isn't enforced doesn't make it legal.
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That retort wasn't very funny.
*Sigh* I should have previewed to make sure my tags were closed correctly.
Virgin is actually one of the mainstream ISPs that are doing caps for all users (as compared to BT, who only do caps on congested areas at peak times), maybe you should have investigated a bit before going with them? http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html
I thought OS X server came with an activation key requirement.
I do not know what a frying pan is... However, I can extend to you the gift of fire~
To be honest, I find this harder than building in Second life.
We have Walmart in the UK, Best buy too and Staples (although more widely known as 'niceday' here).
What the hell are you talking about? I mean, beyond Poland, all the other countries I mentioned don't really have high piracy rates at all. What are you going to do next, claim that the British pound or the Euro is worth less than the dollar?
I'm not taking about old hardware, I'm talking about new hardware that just came out for Windows, Vista comes along at the same time and it remains broken, then the same thing happened recently with Windows 7 and here is the fun thing: They are still manufacturing the hardware even though it's incompatible with windows 7 still. Linux is certainly a lot better at keeping backwards compatibility than Windows is in many cases, but of course not all, so I don't buy your arguments still on hardware compatibility. I don't see how Windows is doing that significantly better as you claim.
Five years ago there wasn't as much usermode driver support, so you won't find many from that time period. However, I did indulge you - I decided to test a old lexmark z45 printer just for a bit of fun to prove this. So I grabbed the printer driver from an extremely old mandrake Linux install cd (admittedly this was somewhat difficult to extract at first), deleted the 'latest' version off current Ubuntu's unstall and stuck the old one on there, forced manual configuration to use that driver (rather than letting it automatically choosing the latest and greatest) and behold, it printed out and worked fine.
This is no different from the Apple support forums or the billion support forums dealing with Windows. Hell, I can give you a tonne of fun stories of how Apple screwed over a lot of people with poor driver support for certain revisions of hardware in OS X updates. I just don't see how it is any worse on Linux than it is Windows or OS X honestly.The AC97 has been out since 19 fucking 97, and you STILL have it being broken every time you turn around?
It is? You know, I was aware of a few problems with Intel HDA but AC97? Surely you jest. Now sound on Linux, sure, I can agree it's broken in some places and maybe when distros stop shipping defaults for stuff like OSS compatability being enabled will we resolve most of these issues, there is crap like Adobe flash that insists on using OSS, which, once OSS is in use by any application, no sound mixing can take place. However, speaking of sound APIs, I can't even get a modern game like UT3 to play in game dialog in windows 7 because some sound API is broken (there is no solution to the problem I have currently there).
Mainstream supported ended in 14/04/2009, but it's not like the support really matters, after all so much hardware and software was made unusable between every single service pack version, this rarely happens on most Linux distros due to the upgrade policy is to fix bugs and security issues, not to do substantial changes to the OS that breaks stuff. You can't expect the 'still supported' versions of Windows t
Way to go taking things out of context.
The kid working minimum wage at the electronics counter at Walmart would tell me anything to sell something, I'm not naive.
Nope, community support sponsored by the city, when I was living in Szczecin at the time. Nothing to do with the Linux community or such.
I'm not convinced, in the recent years I've seen far more hardware that was bought which didn't support new versions of Windows and did support Linux, so I can't really say either way.
I'm not, I'm pointing out a lot of bullshit ideas which don't get any traction. We have stable ABIs and usermode driver support for printing, scanning, tablets, audio, tv tuners and loads of other device types that I can't recall right now - So where is this, magical commercial support you were talking about? Because Linux has it for most types of hardware, just not graphic cards, motherboard controllers, PCI controllers and when you buy Linux supported hardware from stores it has never came with a magic driver CD - I doubt this would even get more proprietary support since the other areas aren't.
I just go down to PC world and look for the penguin on the box, it isn't difficult.
Uh, yeah. No idea why /you/ can't, but /I/ certainly can, they've had the Linux stickers for years on boxes and this isn't a single country thing, because I've moved through quite a few countries (Germany, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, UK) and seen them.
Nope. To be perfectly honest, the majority of hardware manufacturers just don't give a shit about Linux. Especially when they can get drivers and such implemented for free by just giving the specs. I'm not even exaggerating about this. This is nothing to do with the Linux driver models. Hell, there are user mode drivers that are fully implementable for various devices in Linux for the majority of devices including modems, scanners, printers and god knows what.. And guess what? No proprietary drivers, where they would work, so I deem the majority of what you have stated as complete bullshit. Especially since this is a rehersed argument that is only true for a very small amount of hardware that requires it to sit in the kernel with an unstable ABI and the hardware that does sit in the kernel is in the majority of cases, fully supported (graphic cards, ethernet, motherboard controllers).
You have the freedom to make your own distro that does that. Nobody is stopping you directly from doing this, of course, you'll probably continue whining instead of doing anything about it. Not that a stable ABI will really mean more support for graphic card drivers, motherboard controllers etc.
When I was still doing computer service, quite regular actually. I'd say there is certainly a large amount of faulty ones.
I have worked in both shops and even free tech support services. The latter has revealed a lot of horrible, horrible crud you would not believe. Most people avoid commercialized support if they can, which is why I am not convinced you have seen as much as I have. Not only this, but I some how doubt you even go to the troubles I do to diagnosing the problems, I've ended up debugging problems where by the divx encoder codec was crashing, upon debugging extensively I found it was an issue to do with the fact the AMD's processor's errata for that revision, model of processor was returning bad responses to SSE2 instructions. I some how doubt that your 'support' even reaches the scale I have done. I mean seriously, when it comes to hardware and software support, comparing my own experience to what you have stated, and my knowledge of most common tech guys in shops, I am not convinced at all by your 'arguments'.
Both ATi and nVidia cards.
While some were bleeding edges, there were those that were not bleeding edge either, some hardware had been known to have such issues and was not fixed in later revisions of the same model, so your advice is not very helpful here.
Okay, now I know for certain you're a troll. Since you completely ignore everything from high end workstations using Linux (which is why nVidia to support it - due to large customers using these), commercialized servers, mobile phones, DVRs etc. all built with Linux.
I call bullshit on the majority of your argument.
FYI: I am platform agnostic, I hate all current operating systems.
I've owned both a Skype phone s1 and s2, this has never happened to me and I am a heavy skype user.
I've conversed with others using skype on windows, linux, mac and various mobile versions, can't say I have /ever/ experienced this. It's not like this happened 1% of the time, this never ever happened which makes me suspicious about the truth of your post.
I've used the phone since it first came out, at one point there was a limit for 4000 minutes when it first came out but that quickly went away.
On my Three 3g internet dongle SIP is not blocked at all. Are you sure you didn't purchase the web browsing plan instead of the unlimited internet plans.. The web browsing one appears to block all ports but 80 and 443.
No it isn't.
But it has violent video games. Thus, perhaps all this violence and crime is caused by something else other than video games.
Of course, even good parenting can't help with some individuals. This is often seen in families where they are bringing up multiple children and one of them turns into a drug addict, alcoholic, various crime things - even though all the other kids turned out to be upstanding citizens. I don't think video games make children into violent criminals, but I don't think all of this is a result of bad parenting either.
I don't think spending more time with your kids is necessarily healthy or a good idea either.
Non-sense! Only 18 year olds truely understand.
You should be playing games like Pokemon and battling out horribly drawn creatures till they 'faint' instead of 'die'.
And yet the rest of the world has these 'violent video games' and the contrast varies greatly from country to country. Hell, just try to tell me that these violent video games are making people in Switzerland more violent than those in Australia. Seriously...
I see responses before yours?
Right about what? The fact driver manufacturers should include drivers on the CD instead of just simply giving the specs out to Linux developers to get out-of-the-box-support for free?
I can't even give a guarantee with hardware that has the Windows logo testing on it.
Example 1: Windows XP logo tested wireless hardware, works perfectly on pre-SP2 systems, on SP2 systems, it blue screens and there are no updated drivers for it.
Example 2: Highend graphic card that is 'Vista ready' and uses DX10 does not really work well and constantly causes the system to lockup or blue screen.
etc.
We the above examples, I have to say, bullshit. Especially since I've seen so many, many, many driver issues with that lovely little windows logo on the box.
They don't even need to do that, just contribute the drivers to kernel upstream - No CD required or anything.
That's not surprising, it's not like they've updated their stuff in years.
I've seen greater amounts of Linux users on websites I manage actually, also I've been noticing more and more Linux on various desktops systems in countries I've lived in, businesses, homes etc. I think I saw the most in Germany. So, I'd certainly say Linux is growing and not just hovering at a small install base.
Ask a stupid question... For the same reason the majority of other proprietary systems don't take over.
I think you're confusing the Android OS with Maemo 5. You could come up with better trolls, here I'll do one for you.
The N900 sucks in the USA, because the US model doesn't have MMS support.
See? It's not hard. All it takes is a little research.