As long as you followed step #0. Check printer compatibility here and scanner compatibility here. Unless they got a Tux logo or something, because there are still devices that don't have Linux drivers.
In all honesty, I've just used off the shelf hardware with no idea if it would work or not. Thanks for the site though, I think I might use that in future.
Will the driver problem be fixed? I am tired of having to search for stuff if I buy a new printer or scanner etc.
Been working for years, for me.
I just plug in my printer, use the add printer wizard, select model, various sharing methods - no stupid driver installation that installs a bunch of bloatware.
Plug in my tablet, works instantly - no stupid driver installation that includes tray icon background processes.
Plug in wireless device, works instantly - no stupid driver installation that includes some special wireless manager that has a terrible UI and doesn't really work properly.
I'm not sure if you mean 10.0 or XP was more stable but my point was that the first tyme I booted up XP it froze and I don't call that stable.
But the difference with my examples is that they are very consistent, a one off time a OS failed doesn't mean much. It can be caused by a number of things. The issues I had were spread among just one installation of OS X 10.0, more than one piece of hardware etc.
While I have had issues with XP, it was generally only been consistent with a specific piece of hardware (Protip: don't buy Sony) or some third party driver/software.
Ok, so it points out a flaw with Windows 7 and Linux but completely fails to give the praise to the efforts that Apple is doing with Mac OSX and Snow Leopard!!! OSX is incorporating incredible efforts to leverage GPU and Multi-core solutions for developers.
With things like a broken OpenGL implementation (code that works fine on Linux, XP, Vista, Seven, Solaris, BSDs - it doesn't work on OS X and in quite a few cases, will lock up the system), buggy graphical drivers (contributes to many OpenGL issues), old generation graphics hardware... And you want to claim OS X is ahead in the GPU?...What?
And then you have the tenacity to even mention the multi-core solutions in OS X, when they can't even get simple things like signalling right, never mind the occasional screwed up behaviour of POSIX threads.
I honestly don't believe for a second you have done any complex development on applications in OS X.
the Linux OS powers almost all supercomputers etc.
I only know of one cray model that had Linux actually... Can I get some kind of citation from a trustworthy source on this, as I can't find it on Google?
I agree some swear by different platforms. I get riled and carried away myself when I hear or read people say they need Windows because they have to be able to run MS Office or something else not realizing Office is available for OS X and there are other apps that can do the same for both Linux and OS X.
I'm actually platform agnostic, I'll use every OS under the sun. Ironically, when I stopped trying to tell people about using other platforms (not forcing people, just letting them know they exist), I've had much more interest when people see me actively using a alternative platform. I do however get annoyed when people tell me random non-sense about other systems like: Linux can't run games, Linux can't do ms office and so on.
I heard Morse Code was dropped but I couldn't confirm it.
Was the requirement that you design and build your own transceiver dropped too?
Actually, that's to do with building some kind of device, you can't build a transceiver, because you're not licensed to use it, so you can't test it - Most people build receivers using some build-your-own kit thing. Additionally, to get the first license level in the US (Technician Class) or UK (Foundation License), it's not needed. I believe when you get to the second level US (General License) etc. that it's required you build something.
I've had trouble occasionally with Finder but nothing like the routine problems I had with Windows Explorer. In the 20 months I've had my Mac I have not had to reinstall the OS once, yet I had to do that with my Windows PCs.
I sense you're getting confused sicne you mentioned 20 months of using your Mac -- Please note that I am discussing OS X 10.0, which was what the person I was replying to was comparing XP to. Many of the issues I mentioned have since been resolved.
I admit I haven't used either Finger or SMB so can't say there isn't a problem with them.
That was actually a typo, I meant Finder.
I've had a few system crashes but using Disk Utilities to repair the disk or Permissions fixed them. At no tyme would the OS not boot up.
This issue went away in 10.0. The point of my post earlier was the person was saying XP was the equivalent of OS X 10.0, by the points I mentioned above, the stability, breakage in OS X 10.0 does not really compare well to XP at all.
I don't use iDisk. Actually I don't know what it is, is it part of.mac or Mobile Me?
What I find ironic is that I run into people who think Macs are only good for games.
That's a first for me.
What about the DXZone?
Nothing much different there unfortunately.
Things may of changed since then but years ago I knew hams who swore by Macs.
There are always those who swear by a particular platform, I will say the log book software available for Macs is pretty good... (But I use a spreadsheet anyway). When it comes to the other amateur radio applications -- not so great.
I wanted to get my license myself but I had a hard tyme with Morse Code.
Fortunately, the morsecode requirement has been recently dropped in the UK and USA.
The first tyme I booted up a PC with XP it froze while booting, And it was installed on a brand new PC.
A single failed boot up is not really enough to determine if it's unstable. I will say that on 10.0, I had system crashes at random intervals, across a few systems - I could never figure out what caused that, but it went away in 10.2. These are consistent issues I recall finding in 10.0 across different hardware:
Finder kept crashing on me while doing basic file operations (FTFF!). Finger kept reporting files on SMB shares were 1MB in size. Finder locks folders on SMB shares and does not release the locks when closed. Webdav couldn't even use digest on OS X, worked fine in XP. A few times after system crashes, the system wouldn't boot because system files had some how got corrupted. iDisk would get hopeless stuck on mounting.
The philosophy is that you shouldn't be able to modify files that are in use. The purpose of locking is to prevent the interceding update scenarios. That said, if your application is designed to allow overwriting etc. an application must explicitly allow sharing (reading, writing) - be it on it's self or files it's locked. This prevents unforeseen modifications on a application that would not normally be able to handle it.
My personal opinion is that it's different, it has it's negative factors but also positive factors. I don't agree that it's a negative thing, I don't think all operating systems should adapt a single style of file locking etc.
development view superior to Windows...
Yeah, I don't really see how file locking changes that.
Do you mean specific apps or specific tasks? Can you name one task you have to do that a Mac can't?
Steam games - while they have a tendency to work quite well in crossover games for Linux, on Crossover for Mac, the officially unsupported games which work 100% fine on Linux on the same hardware tend to be completely broken.
Decent Amateur radio software and no, the software listed on http://www.machamradio.com/ is not good enough.
x11 that supports drag and drop properly, so I can use x11 applications as they should be used.
x11 that supports clipboards properly, so I can use x11 applications as they should be used.
Stuff like fink, macports which isn't hopelessly broken - I don't want standard tools segfaulting on me, like finf and macports do. I don't get this with Windows Services for Unix, Cygwin, regular Linux distros etc.
What survey companies use for statistics is another story. Apple ONLY sells complete computers. Dell, HP, et.al. ALL sell a box then you pick a monitor and what ever. Claiming a $500 delta in ASP between Dell and Apple is simply not the same thing.
Wow, I was thinking the same about running Office 2007 on Windows.
I thought the ribbon was ingenius, it was so ingenius that I decided that my next cross platform application would use it. It did however take some getting used to at first. It also feels a bit weird when switching between it and other office suits at times.
If you don't like the way Macs are now, you might as well keep that copy of XP backed up for years to come. The shelf life of CD media is only so long.
Believe it or not, I'm not set in my UI ways. I just don't happen to like OS X's methods. I use more than just Windows, I use more than one *nix desktop environment/window manager. I just don't like OS X's interface any more that I like fvwm (which I think isn't that user friendly if you want to customize it).
Just because I don't like one thing, doesn't mean I'm utterly set in my ways.
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You've just recreated the philosophy behind ReiserFS 4.
Hans wanted it to be possible for you to even do "cat blah.mp3 > /dev/dsp".
A version of Windows that comes with British localizations.
Stop getting US versions?
Localizations are set to use UK settings by default, so you wouldn't need to set your date format, keyboard layout etc.
In all honesty, I've just used off the shelf hardware with no idea if it would work or not. Thanks for the site though, I think I might use that in future.
Ask the people who mentioned the same thing, three times.
I'm using a UK version of Windows, not US.
I'm using a UK version of Windows.
How is that relevant? I'm using a UK version of Windows, not US.
My Linux installations are set to be localized for the UK, so, I don't know if the defaults for US localization is different.
Pretty much. For some reason, even under Windows, you still need to set the paper type used for most printers.
What I find really weird is that on Windows, the default paper size is always "letter", when most people use A4.
Been working for years, for me.
I just plug in my printer, use the add printer wizard, select model, various sharing methods - no stupid driver installation that installs a bunch of bloatware.
Plug in my tablet, works instantly - no stupid driver installation that includes tray icon background processes.
Plug in wireless device, works instantly - no stupid driver installation that includes some special wireless manager that has a terrible UI and doesn't really work properly.
But the difference with my examples is that they are very consistent, a one off time a OS failed doesn't mean much. It can be caused by a number of things. The issues I had were spread among just one installation of OS X 10.0, more than one piece of hardware etc.
While I have had issues with XP, it was generally only been consistent with a specific piece of hardware (Protip: don't buy Sony) or some third party driver/software.
Yep, receivers are fine.
Amateurs pioneered digital broadcasting, that said... There hasn't been that much of a change from my point of view in the recent years.
With things like a broken OpenGL implementation (code that works fine on Linux, XP, Vista, Seven, Solaris, BSDs - it doesn't work on OS X and in quite a few cases, will lock up the system), buggy graphical drivers (contributes to many OpenGL issues), old generation graphics hardware... And you want to claim OS X is ahead in the GPU? ...What?
And then you have the tenacity to even mention the multi-core solutions in OS X, when they can't even get simple things like signalling right, never mind the occasional screwed up behaviour of POSIX threads.
I honestly don't believe for a second you have done any complex development on applications in OS X.
I only know of one cray model that had Linux actually... Can I get some kind of citation from a trustworthy source on this, as I can't find it on Google?
I'm actually platform agnostic, I'll use every OS under the sun. Ironically, when I stopped trying to tell people about using other platforms (not forcing people, just letting them know they exist), I've had much more interest when people see me actively using a alternative platform. I do however get annoyed when people tell me random non-sense about other systems like: Linux can't run games, Linux can't do ms office and so on.
Hopefully you trust these sources:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/01/24/100/?nc=1
http://www.navagear.com/2007/02/morse-code-requirement-dropped-for-ham-radio-license/
Actually, that's to do with building some kind of device, you can't build a transceiver, because you're not licensed to use it, so you can't test it - Most people build receivers using some build-your-own kit thing. Additionally, to get the first license level in the US (Technician Class) or UK (Foundation License), it's not needed. I believe when you get to the second level US (General License) etc. that it's required you build something.
I sense you're getting confused sicne you mentioned 20 months of using your Mac -- Please note that I am discussing OS X 10.0, which was what the person I was replying to was comparing XP to. Many of the issues I mentioned have since been resolved.
That was actually a typo, I meant Finder.
This issue went away in 10.0. The point of my post earlier was the person was saying XP was the equivalent of OS X 10.0, by the points I mentioned above, the stability, breakage in OS X 10.0 does not really compare well to XP at all.
If you're interested, it's now part of MobileMe:
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/idisk.html
That's a first for me.
Nothing much different there unfortunately.
There are always those who swear by a particular platform, I will say the log book software available for Macs is pretty good... (But I use a spreadsheet anyway). When it comes to the other amateur radio applications -- not so great.
Fortunately, the morsecode requirement has been recently dropped in the UK and USA.
Nope.
A single failed boot up is not really enough to determine if it's unstable. I will say that on 10.0, I had system crashes at random intervals, across a few systems - I could never figure out what caused that, but it went away in 10.2.
These are consistent issues I recall finding in 10.0 across different hardware:
Finder kept crashing on me while doing basic file operations (FTFF!).
Finger kept reporting files on SMB shares were 1MB in size.
Finder locks folders on SMB shares and does not release the locks when closed.
Webdav couldn't even use digest on OS X, worked fine in XP.
A few times after system crashes, the system wouldn't boot because system files had some how got corrupted.
iDisk would get hopeless stuck on mounting.
No it doesn't, see shadow copy.
The philosophy is that you shouldn't be able to modify files that are in use. The purpose of locking is to prevent the interceding update scenarios. That said, if your application is designed to allow overwriting etc. an application must explicitly allow sharing (reading, writing) - be it on it's self or files it's locked. This prevents unforeseen modifications on a application that would not normally be able to handle it.
My personal opinion is that it's different, it has it's negative factors but also positive factors. I don't agree that it's a negative thing, I don't think all operating systems should adapt a single style of file locking etc.
Yeah, I don't really see how file locking changes that.
I could go on, but meh.
I just checked both sites, they're still selling them. I didn't see anything about killing either.
As opposed to being universally annoying to all.
Windows' POSIX subsystem passes Unix and POSIX certification too -- What is your point?
Ah, thank you for clarifying that. =)
I thought the ribbon was ingenius, it was so ingenius that I decided that my next cross platform application would use it. It did however take some getting used to at first. It also feels a bit weird when switching between it and other office suits at times.
Believe it or not, I'm not set in my UI ways. I just don't happen to like OS X's methods. I use more than just Windows, I use more than one *nix desktop environment/window manager. I just don't like OS X's interface any more that I like fvwm (which I think isn't that user friendly if you want to customize it).
Just because I don't like one thing, doesn't mean I'm utterly set in my ways.
What does this have to do with not rebuilding windows from scratch making OS X superior? File locking is just a design choice.