The guy talked about a chance of it happening, not whether it was intentional or not. Lotus notes is known for losing information, I doubt this false positive rate even reaches the frequency that Lotus Notes would lose your information at.
I guarantee that no sane company would even risk continuing to use your product (never mind getting any future business) if there was even the slightest risk of that happening.
Ever used Lotus notes? That loses information, has data corruption issues etc. And that was when it was working normally.
So companies wouldn't use software that didn't have the slightest risk of losing their information etc? Complete utter jibberish.
Flamebait? Okay, show me a blockbuster game from Stardock like Left 4 dead, Crysis, Fallout 3, Rage, Starcraft 2, Spore.
Seriously, whenever there is a DRM discussion, people bring up the most popular games being pirated, and the most popular ones get pirated to hell. Then others bring up niche games that most gamers likely have never even heard of, pirates too (which pirated versions still exist, just check the pirate bay) and of course they aren't pirated so much, there is no advertising, there is no mass interest like the games mentioned above - in result, there is no interest in pirating it.
Hell, everyone wants to go on about how DRM always fail, well, here is a niche one for you where DRM did work:
X3: Reunion, when the game came with DRM, the DRM was never cracked. Eventually, Egosoft (being the nice company they are - they don't believe on keeping the DRM permanently on a game), offered patches that removed the DRM on the game and at that point, a lot of pirate versions of the game surfaced on trackers. What does that tell you?
Unlike retail games, where anyone with the physical disc can play it
That depends entirely on the license. If the game is licensed to just you and not the computer you install it on, then no, you're not allowed to do so.
I pay the same price for steam games as retail
I pay more for Steam games than retail (honest truth)
I can do less with the games.
I seem to be able to do more. I can have more than one copy of the game installed, on as many computers as I wish. Most licenses tell me I can only have one copy installed at a time.
Nor can more than one person play from your steam game list at a time. What if I want to play TF2 while another of my household plays another online game from my list?
The license is exclusive to you only, not another of your household -- Steam only enforces that.
It's getting more annoying as time goes on. For instance, I bought a few games for the kids to play on the laptop. Last night, I wanted to play Left4Dead but couldn't because Steam was logged in on another PC.
It should of logged out the other computer and let you play.
Why do people still consider relational products when you have excellent object oriented databases like the free db4o and the much better, albeit commercial Obsidian DTS/S1.
I have made a lot of software, coded and tied together a lot of backends together which include writing something that pretends to be a MySQL server but actually forwards certain queries to LDAP for user data... I have messed with database replication systems, postgresql is pretty awesome for that..
However, I have never heard of db4o or Obsidian DTS/S1.
Then you're part of the problem too; the OP specifically was referring to people who were basically worried about simply having the money to pay basics like foods/gas etc.... don't you see the connection? Remarkable.
No, I don't. The circumstances don't change whether or not they play on it or not in their free time. The money difference? Well, generally people buy things like PS3s etc. when they can afford, not when they can't. What the OP was referring to was people hitting hard times like now.
Let me give you a real quick hint, and google can confirm this for you. Group policy controls are practically worthless. All it takes is one hole to get around them completely, and 9 times out of 10 that hole is the open file dialog.
Didn't work here. I even tested on a older version of win2k sp2, didn't work. Don't bullshit me.
Group policies only control apps which respect them, and there is no requirement that apps respect them or even are aware of them. As a developer I...
Developer to developer then, do a exec() on a application in a location that is not supposed to be authorized, watch what happens. Hint: The process doesn't execute.
Group Policies will help you control the normal user, but does nothing to stop someone with a clue.
Group policies aren't the end solution to everything, however, they are pretty flawless for preventing application execution.
I've never even heard of X3:Reunion or X3:Terran Conflict.
They're popular in the space game genere, it seems a lot of people are rediscovering the sci-fi freeplay genere through the X series of games. Quite a few bits of the game seem to be inspired from the Elite series.
If their DRM was so great, how did their sales go?
Apparently they went well. X3: Terran Conflict came out recently, so that still remains to be seen.
Once they removed the DRM, you say it became piracy galore
Yes.
there's a good argument that those pirates weren't going to buy the game to begin with
It also started to stagnate a bit in sales after the game became DRM free.
Another quest is that since many more pirates played the first game once the DRM was gone, how did it affect sales of the second game?
X3: Terran Conflict was only released a few months ago, so I can't really comment on that. I do know that X3: reunion sold better than X2: The threat (which also employed the same DRM scheme) - Egosoft have been slowly increasing in gamer base with every game.
The nice thing about Egosoft is that they remove the DRM after a year on their products because they only see it as serving as a inconvenience to the user in the long term - due to DRM breaking with windows updates, future OSes etc.
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The guy talked about a chance of it happening, not whether it was intentional or not. Lotus notes is known for losing information, I doubt this false positive rate even reaches the frequency that Lotus Notes would lose your information at.
I always thought Lotus notes was intentionally written that way. It's a form of torture.
I'm aware of these facts. Sometimes you can get a Leela header.
BTW, nice fork bomb.
Rubbish.
Absolute non-sense.
Ever used Lotus notes? That loses information, has data corruption issues etc. And that was when it was working normally.
So companies wouldn't use software that didn't have the slightest risk of losing their information etc? Complete utter jibberish.
I can't find anything supporting your claims on Google - a little help, please?
All I get on this Windows 7 beta is Hitler.
USB worked for me after a fresh install after having installed Windows updates.
No, usually on Ubuntu stories it's some random rubbish about, "I tried Ubuntu and I couldn't get it to work, Ubuntu sucks".
I can't think of anything Win95 didn't have that Win98 had.
I think he's pointing out that there is a lot of fandom for nothing.
Flamebait? Okay, show me a blockbuster game from Stardock like Left 4 dead, Crysis, Fallout 3, Rage, Starcraft 2, Spore.
Seriously, whenever there is a DRM discussion, people bring up the most popular games being pirated, and the most popular ones get pirated to hell. Then others bring up niche games that most gamers likely have never even heard of, pirates too (which pirated versions still exist, just check the pirate bay) and of course they aren't pirated so much, there is no advertising, there is no mass interest like the games mentioned above - in result, there is no interest in pirating it.
Hell, everyone wants to go on about how DRM always fail, well, here is a niche one for you where DRM did work:
X3: Reunion, when the game came with DRM, the DRM was never cracked. Eventually, Egosoft (being the nice company they are - they don't believe on keeping the DRM permanently on a game), offered patches that removed the DRM on the game and at that point, a lot of pirate versions of the game surfaced on trackers. What does that tell you?
That depends entirely on the license. If the game is licensed to just you and not the computer you install it on, then no, you're not allowed to do so.
I pay more for Steam games than retail (honest truth)
I seem to be able to do more. I can have more than one copy of the game installed, on as many computers as I wish. Most licenses tell me I can only have one copy installed at a time.
That's what it does here, when I start Steam on another computer.
The license is exclusive to you only, not another of your household -- Steam only enforces that.
It should of logged out the other computer and let you play.
You have had no impact on the industry obviously.
Stardock has yet to make a game worth pirating.
I have made a lot of software, coded and tied together a lot of backends together which include writing something that pretends to be a MySQL server but actually forwards certain queries to LDAP for user data... I have messed with database replication systems, postgresql is pretty awesome for that..
However, I have never heard of db4o or Obsidian DTS/S1.
Maybe they need to market better?
What? Beat one of the most niche market shares (Windows mobile) in the mobile phone market?
I could of guessed that, it's got a Apple logo.
What's wrong with my name?
It can't even do MMS messages - something that all new phones sold in Europe have done for years.
No, not really. Most furs wouldn't even dream of touching a regular old animal for sexual purposes.
No, I don't. The circumstances don't change whether or not they play on it or not in their free time. The money difference? Well, generally people buy things like PS3s etc. when they can afford, not when they can't. What the OP was referring to was people hitting hard times like now.
Didn't work here. I even tested on a older version of win2k sp2, didn't work. Don't bullshit me.
Developer to developer then, do a exec() on a application in a location that is not supposed to be authorized, watch what happens. Hint: The process doesn't execute.
Group policies aren't the end solution to everything, however, they are pretty flawless for preventing application execution.
They're popular in the space game genere, it seems a lot of people are rediscovering the sci-fi freeplay genere through the X series of games. Quite a few bits of the game seem to be inspired from the Elite series.
Apparently they went well. X3: Terran Conflict came out recently, so that still remains to be seen.
Yes.
It also started to stagnate a bit in sales after the game became DRM free.
X3: Terran Conflict was only released a few months ago, so I can't really comment on that. I do know that X3: reunion sold better than X2: The threat (which also employed the same DRM scheme) - Egosoft have been slowly increasing in gamer base with every game.
The nice thing about Egosoft is that they remove the DRM after a year on their products because they only see it as serving as a inconvenience to the user in the long term - due to DRM breaking with windows updates, future OSes etc.