I think you're missing my qualifier, "right mind."
Are you claiming that users ought to boycott sites operated by developers not "in their right mind" in favor of a different site operated by developers "in their right mind", or just doing without if there exists no suitable replacement?
who in their right mind is going to design a chrome-only website?
The owners of Discordapp.com. Normally, someone who owns a "server" (their term for a guild, or a group of related users and channels) on Discord or has the "Manage Emoji" permission on a server can add up to 50 small images that can be used within in a message or as a reaction to a message. Uploading emoji works in Chrome, but it has been broken in Firefox since May 23, 2017. A Firefox user can only rename or delete emoji, not upload new ones. Clicking the Upload button neither has any visible effect nor produces a line in the console. This has been reported for months but has not been fixed.
The chip is that extensions to disable the Ctrl+Q shortcut no longer work. Try composing a reply to me in Firefox 57 for Linux and then pressing Ctrl+Q before submitting it.
I gave Firefox 57 a shot and it feels great, so I'm using it.
So you're not a Chrome user, like you've wrongly claimed.
You're a Firefox user, like you just stated.
By "Chrome user", did you mean "occasional Chrome user", "regular Chrome user", or "exclusive Chrome user"? I seek this clarification because neither "occasional Chrome user" nor "regular Chrome user" is mutually exclusive with "occasional Firefox user".
Do these "real use scenarios" include accidentally pressing Ctrl+Q when reaching for Ctrl+Tab or Ctrl+W, and having to restart the entire browser? Because the extensions that users of Firefox 56 and earlier could use to prevent Ctrl+Q from closing the entire browser no longer work in Firefox 57 and later.
Without a Service Worker, an application is more likely to show you the error message "There is no Internet connection" if you try using it on a laptop or tablet while riding the bus.
Or must all applications with an offline mode be native and therefore OS-specific?
That's a fully acceptable loss.
My comment alluded to two different kinds of "loss".
A. Loss of ability to view and edit cached data while offline
B. Loss of compatibility with your preferred operating system because the application's developer lacks the finances to maintain a port thereto
Of these two, which did you intend to describe as "a fully acceptable loss"?
Last time I checked, websites weren't getting explicit consent for user data-mining either.
Yes they are. Private Browsing in Firefox does two things related to data mining: it turns persistent cookies into session cookies, and it doesn't connect to third party tracking services. "Disable protection for this site".
That assumes a website is not doing both... in that case then fuck them all to hell.
They'll do both, arguing that doing both has precedent. Magazines, newspapers, and multichannel pay television rely on combined revenue from ads and subscriptions because they can't pay their writers with one or the other alone.
Offline mode in progressive web applications uses a Service Worker, a form of Web Worker that can act as a proxy for the hostname it's hosted on. Without a Service Worker, an application is more likely to show you the error message "There is no Internet connection" if you try using it on a laptop or tablet while riding the bus.
Or must all applications with an offline mode be native and therefore OS-specific?
Yes: pay $4 per month to every single site you visit. The user eventually ends up having to subscribe to multiple sites, or purchase $4 of pay-per-page credits on multiple sites, to read the results from one web search.
In order to use the "solid desktop" while away from home, you need to access it from the "cheap tablet". This requires subscribing to cellular Internet for the "cheap tablet" so that it can connect to the "solid desktop" even while you are carrying the "cheap tablet" with you on public transportation.
Then again, I usually don't need to redo my whole settings
Unless you're using mainstream Ubuntu, which changes desktop environment once or twice a decade. It changed from GNOME 2 to Unity in 11.10, leading to widespread sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. And it's set to change from Unity to GNOME 3 in 17.10.
clean up the system from spyware that miraculously got turned back on
To me it sounds like someone who prefers, say, the biennial (2-year) cycle of Ubuntu long-term support (LTS) releases over the semiannual (6-month) cycle of Ubuntu intermediate releases and Windows 10 feature updates.
For half the price you can get a solid desktop and a cheap tablet. Whoops.
Good luck running (say) Visual Studio or even something like ModPlug or FamiTracker on "a cheap tablet".
A laptop is for people who commonly use applications that aren't ported to Android and who don't care to subscribe to yet another cellular data plan for the tablet so that it can connect to the desktop PC at home through VNC or RDP.
So how would a non-technical user understand how to install the extra CA's root certificate on each of his devices? From where would he download this certificate in the first place, if the local WLAN isn't secure?
I had hoped that it would be google, not the carrier or handset manufacturer providing updates. The manufacturer would provide drivers for the hardware, but Google would take care of the rest, similar to how MS rather than a PC manufacturer handles Windows updates.
Android 8 "Oreo" introduces Treble, which begins to refactor Android toward what you expected: a stable driver ABI.
It's the fucking telcos who are withholding updates from the end users.
How is this true of Wi-Fi-only tablets or unlocked phones? For example, what power does Comcast have to withhold updates from my Wi-Fi-only Samsung Galaxy Tab A? That'd be like Comcast withholding updates from a Windows PC.
How would you go about encrypting communication between a browser on your desktop, laptop, tablet, or smartphone, and a web-based management interface on your router, printer, or network attached storage (NAS) device? These servers tend to lack a fully qualified domain name (FQDN), making them ineligible for a certificate from a major certificate authority (CA).
I have both an HDHomerun Prime and a Connect, and the same Windows Media Center can record from either one to disk.
But how would one get Windows Media Center nowadays? New PCs come with Windows 10 Home. Unlike Windows 7, Windows 10 lacks Windows Media Center, and unlike Windows Pro, Windows Home lacks downgrade rights. Do people routinely buy the Pro Anytime Upgrade in order to downgrade to Windows 7 Professional with Windows Media Center?
Or is there another solution for recording from a CableCARD tuner to a PC?
"People don't pay for services" probably refers to websites hosting news or editorial text articles. People aren't willing to pay $4 for a month's subscription to each of five websites just to read a single article from each of those sites, and credit card processors charge too much per swipe for a pay-per-page model.
I can't get internet access with an antenna on the roof.
You probably can, from a satellite or cellular ISP. But if you're used to the triple-digit GB/mo cap of fiber, cable, or DSL, you wouldn't like the price of a wireless last mile.
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I think you're missing my qualifier, "right mind."
Are you claiming that users ought to boycott sites operated by developers not "in their right mind" in favor of a different site operated by developers "in their right mind", or just doing without if there exists no suitable replacement?
who in their right mind is going to design a chrome-only website?
The owners of Discordapp.com. Normally, someone who owns a "server" (their term for a guild, or a group of related users and channels) on Discord or has the "Manage Emoji" permission on a server can add up to 50 small images that can be used within in a message or as a reaction to a message. Uploading emoji works in Chrome, but it has been broken in Firefox since May 23, 2017. A Firefox user can only rename or delete emoji, not upload new ones. Clicking the Upload button neither has any visible effect nor produces a line in the console. This has been reported for months but has not been fixed.
Really, what is the chip on your shoulder?
The chip is that extensions to disable the Ctrl+Q shortcut no longer work. Try composing a reply to me in Firefox 57 for Linux and then pressing Ctrl+Q before submitting it.
I gave Firefox 57 a shot and it feels great, so I'm using it.
So you're not a Chrome user, like you've wrongly claimed.
You're a Firefox user, like you just stated.
By "Chrome user", did you mean "occasional Chrome user", "regular Chrome user", or "exclusive Chrome user"? I seek this clarification because neither "occasional Chrome user" nor "regular Chrome user" is mutually exclusive with "occasional Firefox user".
Do these "real use scenarios" include accidentally pressing Ctrl+Q when reaching for Ctrl+Tab or Ctrl+W, and having to restart the entire browser? Because the extensions that users of Firefox 56 and earlier could use to prevent Ctrl+Q from closing the entire browser no longer work in Firefox 57 and later.
$4 per month would probably be enough to cover most of the websites you use
Do you mean $4 per website-user-month, or $4 per user-month to be shared across websites? If the latter, who would collect this $4?
Without a Service Worker, an application is more likely to show you the error message "There is no Internet connection" if you try using it on a laptop or tablet while riding the bus.
Or must all applications with an offline mode be native and therefore OS-specific?
That's a fully acceptable loss.
My comment alluded to two different kinds of "loss".
Of these two, which did you intend to describe as "a fully acceptable loss"?
Last time I checked, websites weren't getting explicit consent for user data-mining either.
Yes they are. Private Browsing in Firefox does two things related to data mining: it turns persistent cookies into session cookies, and it doesn't connect to third party tracking services. "Disable protection for this site".
That assumes a website is not doing both ... in that case then fuck them all to hell.
They'll do both, arguing that doing both has precedent. Magazines, newspapers, and multichannel pay television rely on combined revenue from ads and subscriptions because they can't pay their writers with one or the other alone.
Offline mode in progressive web applications uses a Service Worker, a form of Web Worker that can act as a proxy for the hostname it's hosted on. Without a Service Worker, an application is more likely to show you the error message "There is no Internet connection" if you try using it on a laptop or tablet while riding the bus.
Or must all applications with an offline mode be native and therefore OS-specific?
Is there a way to request them to stop ads?
Yes: pay $4 per month to every single site you visit. The user eventually ends up having to subscribe to multiple sites, or purchase $4 of pay-per-page credits on multiple sites, to read the results from one web search.
In order to use the "solid desktop" while away from home, you need to access it from the "cheap tablet". This requires subscribing to cellular Internet for the "cheap tablet" so that it can connect to the "solid desktop" even while you are carrying the "cheap tablet" with you on public transportation.
Then again, I usually don't need to redo my whole settings
Unless you're using mainstream Ubuntu, which changes desktop environment once or twice a decade. It changed from GNOME 2 to Unity in 11.10, leading to widespread sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. And it's set to change from Unity to GNOME 3 in 17.10.
clean up the system from spyware that miraculously got turned back on
Like the Amazon shopping lens a few years back?
To me it sounds like someone who prefers, say, the biennial (2-year) cycle of Ubuntu long-term support (LTS) releases over the semiannual (6-month) cycle of Ubuntu intermediate releases and Windows 10 feature updates.
Between keystrokes, your CPU is in standby, unless you have a web page open that uses Coinhive to mine Monero.
For half the price you can get a solid desktop and a cheap tablet. Whoops.
Good luck running (say) Visual Studio or even something like ModPlug or FamiTracker on "a cheap tablet".
A laptop is for people who commonly use applications that aren't ported to Android and who don't care to subscribe to yet another cellular data plan for the tablet so that it can connect to the desktop PC at home through VNC or RDP.
One computer would replace two: a desktop and a laptop. The clue is "managing one system".
So how would a non-technical user understand how to install the extra CA's root certificate on each of his devices? From where would he download this certificate in the first place, if the local WLAN isn't secure?
What you are still using SMB1
People are still buying new NES-clone consoles to enjoy SMB1.
I had hoped that it would be google, not the carrier or handset manufacturer providing updates. The manufacturer would provide drivers for the hardware, but Google would take care of the rest, similar to how MS rather than a PC manufacturer handles Windows updates.
Android 8 "Oreo" introduces Treble, which begins to refactor Android toward what you expected: a stable driver ABI.
It's the fucking telcos who are withholding updates from the end users.
How is this true of Wi-Fi-only tablets or unlocked phones? For example, what power does Comcast have to withhold updates from my Wi-Fi-only Samsung Galaxy Tab A? That'd be like Comcast withholding updates from a Windows PC.
How would you go about encrypting communication between a browser on your desktop, laptop, tablet, or smartphone, and a web-based management interface on your router, printer, or network attached storage (NAS) device? These servers tend to lack a fully qualified domain name (FQDN), making them ineligible for a certificate from a major certificate authority (CA).
tl;dr: There is no TLS CA for DNS-SD.
Note that I would *hope* point of sale equipment and security equipment would use TLS regardless of the media.
If a server on a LAN doesn't have its own FQDN, what certificate would its TLS use? Well-known CAs require a FQDN.
I have both an HDHomerun Prime and a Connect, and the same Windows Media Center can record from either one to disk.
But how would one get Windows Media Center nowadays? New PCs come with Windows 10 Home. Unlike Windows 7, Windows 10 lacks Windows Media Center, and unlike Windows Pro, Windows Home lacks downgrade rights. Do people routinely buy the Pro Anytime Upgrade in order to downgrade to Windows 7 Professional with Windows Media Center?
Or is there another solution for recording from a CableCARD tuner to a PC?
"People don't pay for services" probably refers to websites hosting news or editorial text articles. People aren't willing to pay $4 for a month's subscription to each of five websites just to read a single article from each of those sites, and credit card processors charge too much per swipe for a pay-per-page model.
I can't get internet access with an antenna on the roof.
You probably can, from a satellite or cellular ISP. But if you're used to the triple-digit GB/mo cap of fiber, cable, or DSL, you wouldn't like the price of a wireless last mile.