As is often the case, RMS doesn't tell the truth:
"Like everyone, he had been taught since elementary school that sharing books was nasty and wrong--something that only pirates would do."
What utter crap!
And indicate to me that some people are necessarily thinking of OSS realistically.
The open source community is essentially a vendor of software and those people/companies will be as dependent on that community as they would on any vendor.
It sounds to me like the people who responded were mostly likely individuals that were happy to not have to use Microsoft products.
> IBM knows how to market software
ROFLMAO!
Warp is a perfect example that IBM doesn't (or at least didn't) have any clue about how to market software.
I saw a present by Moglen at the OSDL conference and this is not consistent with what he said would happen with GPL v3. I suspect this much ado about nothing...
Saw this on one of the OpenSolaris related blogs. It's an interesting (and provocative!) perspective:
I read an interesting article on news.com yesterday where Linus Torvalds proclaimed that Solaris x86 is a "Joke." It's difficult to counter this type of arrogance, especially when it's rooted in laziness.
Torvalds states that " Solaris/x86 is a joke, last I heard. (It has) very little support for any kind of strange hardware..." Let's take a look at the laziness this statement displays. "Last I heard"? He can't be bothered to check this out himself? He allows others to form his opinions for him? Amazing.
Sure he's busy, but he should take the time to find out what's going on with Solaris before speaking about it publically.
Yep, that's exactly what's going to happen. You view it as a bad thing, and in a sense it is. However, in the world where there are IP rights it's a good thing.
It sounds like you may want to do away with IP rights.
It's actually a good and necessary precedent. There are liability issues surrounding the use of code which should not have been contributed to a project. My company contributes to an open source project where we've recently been discussing this very issue. As a consequence I've had to spend a fair amount of time with the company lawyers:-(
It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but our society does have property rights. And open source projects need to protect themselves from those that might abuse those rights.
I'm tired of these nutballs that don't like HTML email (like the folks that started the ASCII ribbon campaign). HTML email is here to stay. It's a GOOD thing. It allows email to be displayed in a better way, with images, etc.
The fact that HTML email makes viruses easier is a red herring. Avoid that by fixing the problem that allows viruses to come in email!
... the winner of this format war.
As the article says, retailers don't want to stock two formats. Walmart, being the largest retailer in the world, will decide the winner by choosing the format that they stock.
It was a product I worked on.
I've emailed someone who was the technical editor for UDF for a number of years, who was also involved in that product's development, about this. He said he'd get in contact with the right folks at OSTA about this.
Yep. I wrote software for WORM systems where we did similar things. The only significant difference between standard WORM and CDR (relative to what's patented) is that CDR has run-in and run-out that has to be accounted for.
The patent never should have been granted and should easily be invalidated using prior art.
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As is often the case, RMS doesn't tell the truth: "Like everyone, he had been taught since elementary school that sharing books was nasty and wrong--something that only pirates would do." What utter crap!
Amen! Who cares what Stallman thinks - he's a loon!
Don't count on it. Companies are patenting genes (not that it's right, but they are doing it).
That guy needs to get a grip...
And indicate to me that some people are necessarily thinking of OSS realistically. The open source community is essentially a vendor of software and those people/companies will be as dependent on that community as they would on any vendor. It sounds to me like the people who responded were mostly likely individuals that were happy to not have to use Microsoft products.
I agree. Not only is this not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
> IBM knows how to market software ROFLMAO! Warp is a perfect example that IBM doesn't (or at least didn't) have any clue about how to market software.
ROFL! Linus CAN'T amend the GPL...
Try the former...
Your attitude and those of others like you just proves her point...
I saw a present by Moglen at the OSDL conference and this is not consistent with what he said would happen with GPL v3. I suspect this much ado about nothing...
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Yep, that's exactly what's going to happen. You view it as a bad thing, and in a sense it is. However, in the world where there are IP rights it's a good thing. It sounds like you may want to do away with IP rights.
This issue has nothing to do with free speech. It has to do with protecting the Linux kernel and protecting IP rights.
It's actually a good and necessary precedent. There are liability issues surrounding the use of code which should not have been contributed to a project. My company contributes to an open source project where we've recently been discussing this very issue. As a consequence I've had to spend a fair amount of time with the company lawyers :-(
It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but our society does have property rights. And open source projects need to protect themselves from those that might abuse those rights.
The fact that HTML email makes viruses easier is a red herring. Avoid that by fixing the problem that allows viruses to come in email!
... the winner of this format war. As the article says, retailers don't want to stock two formats. Walmart, being the largest retailer in the world, will decide the winner by choosing the format that they stock.
It was a product I worked on. I've emailed someone who was the technical editor for UDF for a number of years, who was also involved in that product's development, about this. He said he'd get in contact with the right folks at OSTA about this.
Yes, it does. And as such there is prior art on this going back to at least 1986.
Yep. I wrote software for WORM systems where we did similar things. The only significant difference between standard WORM and CDR (relative to what's patented) is that CDR has run-in and run-out that has to be accounted for. The patent never should have been granted and should easily be invalidated using prior art.