"I feel like a bitter boyfriend. 'You'll be back! You'll be back here on your hands and knees, begging me to take you back!'Maybe I can play 'Mom,' too. 'When you get nailed by stupid licensing schemes, don't come crying to me! It's all fun and games until someone loses stock value!'"
Does anyone remember the Linux advocacy how to? I find it sad that it seems that there are so many self appointed Linux/OSS zealot advocates who feel the need to throw fits when someone doesn't chose Linux for their product. I would dare say that most of these advocates have never contributed to a project, never written a line of code, and often seem to have no idea what/who they're commenting on beyond what they read into in an article they read on yahoo, excite or some press release. Often their argument is just a slam of another OS, or the company making a choice they disagree with, rather than making any positive remarks about Linux beyond Linux/OSS is better.
I don't believe such behavior helps the cause(s) any farther, and only makes the people who do contribute look bad.
I have to agree. I played with legos a ton when I was younger, however they did not always fit the job. As opposed to your choice of Construx, I often used my father's Erector Sets (sp?) for more "industrial" style work out in the sandbox or yard. Legos just couldn't take the weather, physical "kid" abuse, or the occasional explosions around the 4th of July.
Legos are great, but your right when you note that some construction "toys" are more appropriate in some engineering, and fun cases too.
How accurate (considering accuracy is pretty subjective here) are sites like this? I can't imagine going to one of these sites and giving it much weight at all. No doubt every teacher has had problems with some students and vice versa at one time or another. I would think students who are upset are more likely to post reviews.
I would like to see students note what teaching styles they like and how they thought the teacher taught rather than just some "good/bad" reviews. I've had teachers who's classes I've taken and we did not get along at all, we just had different styles of research, we did not see eye to eye on anything, and I hated the class, but that's not necessarily that teachers fault. Personally I usually talk to people who have taken the class. I have some friends who would tell me "he/she sucks! they're terrible" and while I would take the info, I wouldn't weight it very high since I know them well enough to know they hate that subject to start. Other friends I would tell me "you would not like this class ... " and because I know they know me, and I know how they like classes run, I would weight their opinion much more than another.
I took a look at a number of professors from several schools and the posts were very "troll/flamebaitish." Very little explanation of why they felt the teacher "had no idea what they were talking about" or why they "blow gaots hard." Just allot of he/she sucks because he is a _____. It mostly was useless info from some students who couldn't spell check "goats" correctly before posting. There also was plenty of "he/she is great" with equal lack of explanation.
Actually they don't have a right to use the university network based on your claim that they paid for it. I tracked down where these particular student's lab fees and tuition went that paid to the school. In fact they only have a right to 2 urinals, 3 desks in the chem labs, 8 days of doughnuts for the Sunday Alumni gatherings, 12 promotional OSU mouse pads sent to possible students, roughly 24 acres of lawn mowed on July 19th 1999, and about 34 stall doors in the men's bathrooms in several buildings. Maybe they can use those resources how and when they want? Oddly I did find that some of my tax dollars went into a grant that paid for the renovation of 3 old buildings there. I plan to go collect on that by removing the foundation of 1 of the buildings, but I guess I can't. Personally I was expecting I paid for the U's network, so I could hook up, but unfortunately I hear you can't pick where your money goes . . . because it's not yours after you give it to them regardless what you would like to get back from it.
Assuming relations between Iran and the US do continue to warm (I'm sure they will). I don't know if the government of Iran can legally be held responsible by an American Federal judge, and the US take that money (or any money) based on his ruling alone.
I'm sure many countries could hold the US Gov responsible for their actions during the cold war (and there is plenty). The Shaw of Iran alone killed and imprisoned thousands of Iranians (I had a teacher who lived there then) alone, and the US supported him amidst the Iranian's wishes for a different leader. Can their courts hold our Gov responsible?
I can't see the US gov giving any of that money to Mr. Anderson without Iran's consent first, it would be a terrible example to set.
Oh yeah, this is what we need, to add the gift of gravity to all those out of control drivers out there. What is terminal velocity again? too fast for the roof of my apartment!
This isn't so much "an agreement to settle" as much as it is a proposal of a settlement from MS to the DOJ. The DOJ themselves are now looking over the proposal. They've made several others in the past (supposedly as have the DOJ). MS and the DOJ has wanted to agree to settle for some time, it's just been a question of the terms each side wants:-)
Does anyone else feel that their tax dollars were wasted in this? I appreciate that Mr. Anderson went through unconceivable pain and all. However even the judge says : ``the likelihood that any award will ever be paid is minimal.'' I can't even see where a federal judge has any jurisdiction in a case against another nation who did not (nor needs to) participate. I think we all can see that Mr. Anderson and his family went through a terrible situation. Did this do anything other than point out a fact we already know?
As for timothy's comments that this is the same judge that is dealing with the MS trial, I don't see any point there. Judges don't' just preside over one case at a time, I'm sure there's lots of cases he is or may handle. I can't see any reason one would be connected to the other, nor should they be.
"Imagine what might happen if we all just threatened to leave our employers? I think we'd easily get some pay raises:P"
I've actually been at 2 companies (no names to keep my legal butt safe) where that has occurred to one level or another.
One company actually did go under (and they pretty much did treat their "knowledge workers" pretty poorly) due to the fact that they could not take even the short term effects of the "work slowdown" that some people participated in. This was a small company and was somewhat fragile.
The second (a much larger company) that had similar demands presented to them. They divided the angry workers by giving some what they wanted (quietly), and giving others just enough to stay then letting them go over time. They did a good job dividing them and sadly several of the workers who were let go had discussed the problem in public in a newspaper story. This had an adverse effect (since you don't see too many "tech strikes") where it did draw a number of other businesses around town's attention. They did eventually find good jobs, but it was quite difficult for them for a short period of time.
Discussing such imaginary possibilities can have some adverse effects. Regarding the second company I worked for, those who made the demands, and did get what they wanted were turned down for other positions in the company. The unstated reason was that due to their past threats to leave that the company, they were concerned that giving them senior positions would be a waste of $ in the case that they may decided to organize again and leave anyway. As unfortunate as it was to see some of them turned down for those jobs, it was hard to blame the company for being worried they'd do it again.
In both cases the workers presented they're case very confrontational. They pretty much said exactly what you stated and laid out their demands. You have to be careful about how you present such demands to an employer. I've found that presenting my "wishes" to my boss one on one often is much easier for the company and myself and less confrontational. If your the guy your boss needs like you say, you can often do better making those requests on your own rather than with of few of the "dolts" that every office seems to have:-) You don't even have to mention that you're considering leaving, and that seems to increase the "loyalty" feeling that many tech companies really seem desperate for. Being involved in the hiring process in the past, I can tell you that it's a rare jewel that we find someone who's stuck with the same company for a number of years, and I've seen many companies pay tons extra for that.
I think it's great he posts some articles late at night. For those of us who work night shifts, or fro the overwhelming % of the planets population for whom it is not late at night.
Wider would be great I think for movies and some games would just rock that way. However I prefer taller for most computer related work. I often place the monitor of my 2nd system beside the monitor of my primary system, however I did manage to set up my desk with one monitor above the other. I much preferred that since I found it much easier to glance up and down than side to side. I found working on documents or code with the display spilt between the 2 monitors, much easier to look at vertically on top of one another than side to side.
Congrats on the RMS impression (with the exception that I did spill what i was drinking when i was laughing). That's just about the exact voice and atttitude i've always heard in my heand the times i've read something by him!
The only thing that worries me about this is that for such a long time Linux has been relatively (sure a few here and there) virus free. Those producing anti-virus protection MS world (not to say that they're the panacea of virus protection) had viruses from the early days when they traveled from floppies to floppies slowly but surely. Early viruses were quite crude and most very early ones didn't actually damage squat. Some outbreaks were damaging but relatively slow and the anti-virus packages evolved with the viruses and do pretty well (IMHO).
Linux however now finds its self growing in popularity at an astonishing rate, connected to a great virus spreading medium, humans on the inet. If viruses did start to break out and they were fairly mature, could it be too fast for people to avoid some severe damage.
I'm reminded of a military strategy taught in a collage course I took once where a fairly simple theory was demonstrated that actually not hitting a target often pulls an enemy's resources to the areas where you are attacking (away from your next likely target). Then striking that target often is easier since the defenses are weaker and have not prepared for such an attack.
"But if the economy goes south, we're likely to see a suddenly bloom of viruses from out-of-work overachievers."
I've seen many studies where traditional crime levels do indeed react with the prosperity of a nation or state, or even city's economy. It would be interesting to see if viruses react the same way (as adjusted for it's normal growth rate). I can't see why not.
That's not to say that if the majority of programmers out there lost their job that they would turn to producing a virus or two (heck, maybe we'd see a jump in independent contributions to OSS programming). However with an economy as such I've found myself working extra hours (hey they're paying for it!) and less time spend on personal computer interests . . . for all I know during that time I may just have turned those idle hands to something less "productive." For myself I'm sure it would be something more horrible like Pokemon . . . but for others maybe viruses.
That confused me too. I often see that where a comment is moderated as say "interesting" when it's intent is obviously humor (and really didn't provide much info I would consider "interesting") or other odd choices.
It's just perplexing sometimes, like when I see an obvious Troll stating "Go blow goats linux users!" and someone marks him as "off topic" as if there is a slashdot topic where that statement would fit right in at home.
SAS mentioned they're support the major distros. What do most people consider "major distros"?
WARNING: Possible dumber question. What say would be some of the things that would keep a program working in say Generic Distro A, where it doesn't work in Generic Distro B? I've heard people mention "such and such doesn't work in X distro but it does in Y distro, but rarely why. Are there any major things that seem to keep things from working in one to the other distro?
Could this become a stumbling block for smaller distro's acceptance if say 4 major distros get most of the support from most companies and the little distro's do not?
Oh my! That just scared the Bajizus out of me! I remember thinking that it moved in the past, but dismissing it to a few too many hours in front of my computer . . .
Good call on the irony of using a GIF for the logo. I don't think it's too big of a deal either, but worth a chuckle or two. I'm sure the guys at http://burnallgifs.org/ would love it.
I noticed a few weeks ago a distinct lack of moderation for about a week. My own moderator privileges were occurring much less often then as well. I'm guessing They musta cut back on the moderator points handed out. Recently we've been back to about the normal amount of moderation that I've seen in the past I think.
Oh well, I'm sure there's a picky early bird moderator or two who could get me.
Granted this is OT and I'm sure I'll lose a little Karma. However I'd like to say "Yay tomothy" for posting a nice latenight article. Those of grunts work'n the late shifts appreciate getting a chance to post before the discussion has moved on. Thanks timothy
I figured they were close enough for a lawsuit for sure (even wondered about that when Apple started sueing). I wonder if maybe Gateway hasn't licenced the look from Apple for some $.
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"I feel like a bitter boyfriend. 'You'll be back! You'll be back here on your hands and knees, begging me to take you back!'Maybe I can play 'Mom,' too. 'When you get nailed by stupid licensing schemes, don't come crying to me! It's all fun and games until someone loses stock value!'"
Does anyone remember the Linux advocacy how to?
I find it sad that it seems that there are so many self appointed Linux/OSS zealot advocates who feel the need to throw fits when someone doesn't chose Linux for their product. I would dare say that most of these advocates have never contributed to a project, never written a line of code, and often seem to have no idea what/who they're commenting on beyond what they read into in an article they read on yahoo, excite or some press release. Often their argument is just a slam of another OS, or the company making a choice they disagree with, rather than making any positive remarks about Linux beyond Linux/OSS is better.
I don't believe such behavior helps the cause(s) any farther, and only makes the people who do contribute look bad.
I was not aware of that. Thanks!
I have to agree. I played with legos a ton when I was younger, however they did not always fit the job. As opposed to your choice of Construx, I often used my father's Erector Sets (sp?) for more "industrial" style work out in the sandbox or yard. Legos just couldn't take the weather, physical "kid" abuse, or the occasional explosions around the 4th of July.
Legos are great, but your right when you note that some construction "toys" are more appropriate in some engineering, and fun cases too.
Does anyone use these sites, trust them?
.. " and because I know they know me, and I know how they like classes run, I would weight their opinion much more than another.
How accurate (considering accuracy is pretty subjective here) are sites like this? I can't imagine going to one of these sites and giving it much weight at all. No doubt every teacher has had problems with some students and vice versa at one time or another. I would think students who are upset are more likely to post reviews.
I would like to see students note what teaching styles they like and how they thought the teacher taught rather than just some "good/bad" reviews. I've had teachers who's classes I've taken and we did not get along at all, we just had different styles of research, we did not see eye to eye on anything, and I hated the class, but that's not necessarily that teachers fault.
Personally I usually talk to people who have taken the class. I have some friends who would tell me "he/she sucks! they're terrible" and while I would take the info, I wouldn't weight it very high since I know them well enough to know they hate that subject to start. Other friends I would tell me "you would not like this class .
I took a look at a number of professors from several schools and the posts were very "troll/flamebaitish." Very little explanation of why they felt the teacher "had no idea what they were talking about" or why they "blow gaots hard." Just allot of he/she sucks because he is a _____. It mostly was useless info from some students who couldn't spell check "goats" correctly before posting. There also was plenty of "he/she is great" with equal lack of explanation.
I hear ya!
Maybe their $ went into waste disposal costs for those labs? Would they like access to that?
Actually they don't have a right to use the university network based on your claim that they paid for it.
I tracked down where these particular student's lab fees and tuition went that paid to the school.
In fact they only have a right to 2 urinals, 3 desks in the chem labs, 8 days of doughnuts for the Sunday Alumni gatherings, 12 promotional OSU mouse pads sent to possible students, roughly 24 acres of lawn mowed on July 19th 1999, and about 34 stall doors in the men's bathrooms in several buildings. Maybe they can use those resources how and when they want?
Oddly I did find that some of my tax dollars went into a grant that paid for the renovation of 3 old buildings there. I plan to go collect on that by removing the foundation of 1 of the buildings, but I guess I can't.
Personally I was expecting I paid for the U's network, so I could hook up, but unfortunately I hear you can't pick where your money goes . . . because it's not yours after you give it to them regardless what you would like to get back from it.
Assuming relations between Iran and the US do continue to warm (I'm sure they will). I don't know if the government of Iran can legally be held responsible by an American Federal judge, and the US take that money (or any money) based on his ruling alone.
I'm sure many countries could hold the US Gov responsible for their actions during the cold war (and there is plenty). The Shaw of Iran alone killed and imprisoned thousands of Iranians (I had a teacher who lived there then) alone, and the US supported him amidst the Iranian's wishes for a different leader. Can their courts hold our Gov responsible?
I can't see the US gov giving any of that money to Mr. Anderson without Iran's consent first, it would be a terrible example to set.
Oh yeah, this is what we need, to add the gift of gravity to all those out of control drivers out there. What is terminal velocity again? too fast for the roof of my apartment!
This isn't so much "an agreement to settle" as much as it is a proposal of a settlement from MS to the DOJ. The DOJ themselves are now looking over the proposal. :-)
They've made several others in the past (supposedly as have the DOJ). MS and the DOJ has wanted to agree to settle for some time, it's just been a question of the terms each side wants
Does anyone else feel that their tax dollars were wasted in this?
I appreciate that Mr. Anderson went through unconceivable pain and all. However even the judge says : ``the likelihood that any award will ever be paid is minimal.'' I can't even see where a federal judge has any jurisdiction in a case against another nation who did not (nor needs to) participate. I think we all can see that Mr. Anderson and his family went through a terrible situation. Did this do anything other than point out a fact we already know?
As for timothy's comments that this is the same judge that is dealing with the MS trial, I don't see any point there. Judges don't' just preside over one case at a time, I'm sure there's lots of cases he is or may handle. I can't see any reason one would be connected to the other, nor should they be.
The "Dianetics Scientology guy" wrote lots of science fiction. Your probably thinking of the same person.
"Imagine what might happen if we all just threatened to leave our employers? I think we'd easily get some pay raises :P"
:-) You don't even have to mention that you're considering leaving, and that seems to increase the "loyalty" feeling that many tech companies really seem desperate for. Being involved in the hiring process in the past, I can tell you that it's a rare jewel that we find someone who's stuck with the same company for a number of years, and I've seen many companies pay tons extra for that.
I've actually been at 2 companies (no names to keep my legal butt safe) where that has occurred to one level or another.
One company actually did go under (and they pretty much did treat their "knowledge workers" pretty poorly) due to the fact that they could not take even the short term effects of the "work slowdown" that some people participated in. This was a small company and was somewhat fragile.
The second (a much larger company) that had similar demands presented to them. They divided the angry workers by giving some what they wanted (quietly), and giving others just enough to stay then letting them go over time. They did a good job dividing them and sadly several of the workers who were let go had discussed the problem in public in a newspaper story. This had an adverse effect (since you don't see too many "tech strikes") where it did draw a number of other businesses around town's attention. They did eventually find good jobs, but it was quite difficult for them for a short period of time.
Discussing such imaginary possibilities can have some adverse effects. Regarding the second company I worked for, those who made the demands, and did get what they wanted were turned down for other positions in the company. The unstated reason was that due to their past threats to leave that the company, they were concerned that giving them senior positions would be a waste of $ in the case that they may decided to organize again and leave anyway. As unfortunate as it was to see some of them turned down for those jobs, it was hard to blame the company for being worried they'd do it again.
In both cases the workers presented they're case very confrontational. They pretty much said exactly what you stated and laid out their demands. You have to be careful about how you present such demands to an employer. I've found that presenting my "wishes" to my boss one on one often is much easier for the company and myself and less confrontational.
If your the guy your boss needs like you say, you can often do better making those requests on your own rather than with of few of the "dolts" that every office seems to have
I think it's great he posts some articles late at night. For those of us who work night shifts, or fro the overwhelming % of the planets population for whom it is not late at night.
Ok, dumb question.
How do they decide who gets the almighty letter and who doesn't?
Wider would be great I think for movies and some games would just rock that way.
However I prefer taller for most computer related work. I often place the monitor of my 2nd system beside the monitor of my primary system, however I did manage to set up my desk with one monitor above the other. I much preferred that since I found it much easier to glance up and down than side to side. I found working on documents or code with the display spilt between the 2 monitors, much easier to look at vertically on top of one another than side to side.
Congrats on the RMS impression (with the exception that I did spill what i was drinking when i was laughing). That's just about the exact voice and atttitude i've always heard in my heand the times i've read something by him!
The only thing that worries me about this is that for such a long time Linux has been relatively (sure a few here and there) virus free. Those producing anti-virus protection MS world (not to say that they're the panacea of virus protection) had viruses from the early days when they traveled from floppies to floppies slowly but surely. Early viruses were quite crude and most very early ones didn't actually damage squat. Some outbreaks were damaging but relatively slow and the anti-virus packages evolved with the viruses and do pretty well (IMHO).
Linux however now finds its self growing in popularity at an astonishing rate, connected to a great virus spreading medium, humans on the inet. If viruses did start to break out and they were fairly mature, could it be too fast for people to avoid some severe damage.
I'm reminded of a military strategy taught in a collage course I took once where a fairly simple theory was demonstrated that actually not hitting a target often pulls an enemy's resources to the areas where you are attacking (away from your next likely target). Then striking that target often is easier since the defenses are weaker and have not prepared for such an attack.
"But if the economy goes south, we're likely to see a suddenly bloom of viruses from out-of-work overachievers."
I've seen many studies where traditional crime levels do indeed react with the prosperity of a nation or state, or even city's economy. It would be interesting to see if viruses react the same way (as adjusted for it's normal growth rate). I can't see why not.
That's not to say that if the majority of programmers out there lost their job that they would turn to producing a virus or two (heck, maybe we'd see a jump in independent contributions to OSS programming). However with an economy as such I've found myself working extra hours (hey they're paying for it!) and less time spend on personal computer interests . . . for all I know during that time I may just have turned those idle hands to something less "productive." For myself I'm sure it would be something more horrible like Pokemon . . . but for others maybe viruses.
That confused me too.
I often see that where a comment is moderated as say "interesting" when it's intent is obviously humor (and really didn't provide much info I would consider "interesting") or other odd choices.
It's just perplexing sometimes, like when I see an obvious Troll stating "Go blow goats linux users!" and someone marks him as "off topic" as if there is a slashdot topic where that statement would fit right in at home.
WARNING: Possible dumb question.
SAS mentioned they're support the major distros.
What do most people consider "major distros"?
WARNING: Possible dumber question.
What say would be some of the things that would keep a program working in say Generic Distro A, where it doesn't work in Generic Distro B?
I've heard people mention "such and such doesn't work in X distro but it does in Y distro, but rarely why. Are there any major things that seem to keep things from working in one to the other distro?
Could this become a stumbling block for smaller distro's acceptance if say 4 major distros get most of the support from most companies and the little distro's do not?
IBM has all kinds of neat patents.
Some a bit more disturbing than others.
Oh my!
That just scared the Bajizus out of me!
I remember thinking that it moved in the past, but dismissing it to a few too many hours in front of my computer . . .
Good call on the irony of using a GIF for the logo. I don't think it's too big of a deal either, but worth a chuckle or two.
I'm sure the guys at http://burnallgifs.org/ would love it.
I noticed a few weeks ago a distinct lack of moderation for about a week. My own moderator privileges were occurring much less often then as well. I'm guessing They musta cut back on the moderator points handed out. Recently we've been back to about the normal amount of moderation that I've seen in the past I think.
Oh well, I'm sure there's a picky early bird moderator or two who could get me.
Granted this is OT and I'm sure I'll lose a little Karma.
However I'd like to say "Yay tomothy" for posting a nice latenight article. Those of grunts work'n the late shifts appreciate getting a chance to post before the discussion has moved on.
Thanks timothy
I figured they were close enough for a lawsuit for sure (even wondered about that when Apple started sueing).
I wonder if maybe Gateway hasn't licenced the look from Apple for some $.