You GPL advocates (note more friendly, tolerant term) keep on saying crap about BSD code getting stolen, yet people keep on writing BSD licensed code, keep on improving BSD licensed code.....
The BSD code base is damned fine stuff, and probably gets embedded signficantly more often than Linux. Nobody's counting, of course, and nobody has to tell.
In a sense, the BSD code is like an anonymous donation. The GPL'd code is like a donation from the pushy rich guy who insists on a brass plate being affixed on the park benches his money paid for.
Most commercial software vendors charge money for a source license, but they also make the customer sign a non-disclosure agreement. So it's by no means, in any way, 'the same rights.'
I thought you would be smarter than this, Mr. Perens.
It's non-standard and probably illegal, but by god you need to be safe. If you have metal pipe plumbing in your apartment, get some heavy braided cable (doesn't need to be insulated) and establish a ground. Externally patch it into your power strips and outlets. Make sure you use a high quality grounding clamp to establish the ground to the metal pipe. Don't connect anything with just twisted ends. It's unsafe to not have grounded circuits in your wiring, and while a makeshift ground isn't really good, it's better than nothing.
I don't know about the situation in all localities, but in the City of Minneapolis, extension cords and power strips are against the law in rental housing.
I ran into this at the last place I rented, before I went out and bought a townhome.
So you're proposing that the pirates become a new middle-management layer? "You guys aren't working efficiently. Do a better job, or we're going to just steal your product!"
That's quite an incentive for the coders to work faster, and adopt the latest leading-edge object-oriented buzzword-compiant code re-use methods!
ability to have your computer be self aware of the network then set the settings on the fly after plugging in, ie no going through a windows like setup applet
Pinch me if I'm wrong. You're really trying to claim that having a DHCP client on by default is a 'Mac' thing and that having to manually configure the box is a 'Windows like setup applet'??
Golly. I've got a Macintosh SE/30 here that I keep around because it's cool, and I have NetBSD on it. Should I wrap it in plastic? Will I catch a dose of stupid from it if I don't?
The IBM-AT BIOS source code is indeed printed in the technical reference manual.
However, the IBM-AT BIOS chip plugs into a 286 motherboard with a 6 MHz clock speed. No 'chipset' at all. Big bunches of TTL chips. Only an ISA buss for expansion. The Hard Drive controller is an ISA card that plugs in.
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Naw. They can follow the letter of the law by just give you the source code. And let you sit and rotate on it.
Heh.
Another way of looking at it is:
You GPL advocates (note more friendly, tolerant term) keep on saying crap about BSD code getting stolen, yet people keep on writing BSD licensed code, keep on improving BSD licensed code.....
The BSD code base is damned fine stuff, and probably gets embedded signficantly more often than Linux. Nobody's counting, of course, and nobody has to tell.
In a sense, the BSD code is like an anonymous donation. The GPL'd code is like a donation from the pushy rich guy who insists on a brass plate being affixed on the park benches his money paid for.
Agreed. And this comment applies well to the RIAA suing a few 'example' file sharers. Scare 'em off. No problem. Nothing we should worry about.
Right?
Wrong.
Most commercial software vendors charge money for a source license, but they also make the customer sign a non-disclosure agreement. So it's by no means, in any way, 'the same rights.'
I thought you would be smarter than this, Mr. Perens.
So any third party can mail in a formal written request. They can be sent back a one-time password to download the source code from a site.
perens.com can also then provide you with a one-time-use password to download said source code from the site.
You can apply again in writing if you need a second password.
It's non-standard and probably illegal, but by god you need to be safe. If you have metal pipe plumbing in your apartment, get some heavy braided cable (doesn't need to be insulated) and establish a ground. Externally patch it into your power strips and outlets. Make sure you use a high quality grounding clamp to establish the ground to the metal pipe. Don't connect anything with just twisted ends. It's unsafe to not have grounded circuits in your wiring, and while a makeshift ground isn't really good, it's better than nothing.
You mean, of course, that they don't let you plug more than one NAT router into the network, correct?
I don't know about the situation in all localities, but in the City of Minneapolis, extension cords and power strips are against the law in rental housing.
I ran into this at the last place I rented, before I went out and bought a townhome.
So you're proposing that the pirates become a new middle-management layer? "You guys aren't working efficiently. Do a better job, or we're going to just steal your product!"
That's quite an incentive for the coders to work faster, and adopt the latest leading-edge object-oriented buzzword-compiant code re-use methods!
Upon a request, from a customer whom they previously supplied the binary to.
(as if being the coolest dude in the coffee house with the mac laptop wasn't going to sell them!!)
You're being sarcastic, right?
ability to have your computer be self aware of the network then set the settings on the fly after plugging in, ie no going through a windows like setup applet
Pinch me if I'm wrong. You're really trying to claim that having a DHCP client on by default is a 'Mac' thing and that having to manually configure the box is a 'Windows like setup applet'??
Golly. I've got a Macintosh SE/30 here that I keep around because it's cool, and I have NetBSD on it. Should I wrap it in plastic? Will I catch a dose of stupid from it if I don't?
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Well, great.
The IBM-AT BIOS source code is indeed printed in the technical reference manual.
However, the IBM-AT BIOS chip plugs into a 286 motherboard with a 6 MHz clock speed. No 'chipset' at all. Big bunches of TTL chips. Only an ISA buss for expansion. The Hard Drive controller is an ISA card that plugs in.
You might as well just start from scratch.