indeed...it's easy to make a 'comment' using tags (as I did, I guess) and then not bother to even read the story...somewhat pointless since the tags don't necessarily even show up. your proposal sounds much more sensible.
right. fair enough points. no problem with, "disconnected from the rest of the internet", although since there are so many links, it is highly unlikely (it's probably only possible for the government to do that).
However, China was only an example, and perhaps it isn't a good one since it's peculiar for it's large size - if I had chosen a smaller country, it'd likely have significantly less connections and so would be easier for it to become "disconnected from the rest of the internet".
Ah, now *that* is a good argument, though I have no idea if it's technically correct - I mean, don't they have mirrors or other such distributed systems? It seems like it would be a good idea, especially for a country like China where it's popular (I assume it is popular, since I hear lots of complaints from US people about gold or something).
However, I don't think WoW is particularly important, nor MSN which would probably be what most people would notice (again, I wonder if it would work using some Chinese server or something).
What *would* be important is companies' VPN going down, but, again, that's mainly US companies with Chinese offices - ie mostly US interests, and things which are inherently dependant on CN-US communications.
Oh? You mean like many Apple products for example.
Actually, it's quite clear that China *can* produce quality products and in fact it's the QA (or lack thereof) exercised by certain US companies that is at fault.
In some countries people become adults at something like 16-18, but I was under the impression that even in the US children become adults during their teens (except for drinking alcohol, strangely).
Time for this Asia (China) resident to get his own back by tagging this story as 'andnothingofvaluewaslost'.:p
For those of you who don't know, a lot of the stories about Asian countries losing connectivity to large parts of the rest of the world were tagged as 'andnothingofvaluewas lost'. Of course, it could be argued that it is the countries that lost the connectivity that didn't lose anything of value, but hey.
I wonder why it is often stated that such places have lost their 'connection to the internet' when at least some of them probably don't much notice (China wouldn't notice much more than MSN not working, for example) - do people think that 'the internet' lives in the USA or something?
Written nicely in an entertaining way for the layman such as myself.
I couldn't help noticing this statement though :
"He has long, gray hair and a long, white beard and, with all due respect, looks as if he belongs on a mountaintop in Tibet."
Those physical features are notably absent from the stereotypical mountain top Tibetan dweller - ie the Tibetan monk. Ah, using Google images shows a couple of people with long beards, but not typical, judging from the results.
My guess is that he's talking about the Unix lab named "Tibet" at Berkeley University where you'll undoubtedly find many such specimens.
Yes, I made that up - I've no idea if there's a Unix lab named "Tibet" at Berkeley.
I agree entirely (posting from my macbook pro with only a Fedora install - best of both worlds... excellent hardware, excellent OS). I used to install Fedora on my systems (still have one at FC6), but...don't you get fed up with having to upgrade so often in order to keep getting updates?...or is this an ATrpms thing that I use for updates.
My new installs are Ubuntu or Ubuntu server depending on the purpose - though with that I'm a bit pissed that they've dropped PPC support (though it's continued by the community or something) - and it's a bit odd for a person from Fedora/RedHat land.
It often surprises people, but when comparing computers with the same features, Macs often turns out to cost less. But it's the other way around in this case. He's comparing a PC with 'all the features' and costs more, against a Mac that has very few of said features and costs less.
TFA is slow at loading at the moment so I can't check, but I doubt he bothered to load up the Mac so that it has the same features as the PC, if that's even possible. I mean, that's what Mac people usually try to do to PCs when the comparison is the other way...
IIRC, the IRIX port did the real work using the graphics h/w so it was intereactive compared to a pc. But I don't recall ever seeing it running, so I'm not sure. I'm surprised to hear someone is still running it.
In some other places, it means something else which I don't much care to go into, but, if you're in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex, it isn't a pleasant time (for either party).
> Furthermore, they used to have a IRIX and Solaris port (back in the Photoshop 2 and 3 days, I believe), so it's not like they didn't have the UNIX experience.
> Frankly, the Community could start charging for this software and my company would gladly pay whatever they asked. These three programs are absolutely invaluable to us.
Feel free to suggest that your company make a donation; I suggest the cost of the equivalent Adobe product.
Actually, I found this to be the case when I tried VS, when I used it to develop a Symbian C++ application... or more like spending time recovering from VS pissing over all my build files. I guess that could have been the Nokia VS plugin though, I suppose, and not VS specifically.
Whatever it was, it kept changing all the makefiles/etc from under me, and various other annoying things that I couldn't understand, and it kept getting me into a mess. It basically just took over and assumed it had control of everything. The Nokia S60 build environment is very complicated with many different bits in it, and the last thing I needed was it changing things like that without telling me or putting them back again afterwards.
I went back to the command line (cygwin and dos) and wrong my own perl script to do the job - much easier to figure out when you write it yourself, though there's a certain amount of wheel reinvention, I suspect, and never could get perl to work properly on Windows (mostly problems with installing/loading modules). Seems like VS required some training to use properly.
I eventually figured out how to stop it from doing that annoying stuff, but I rarely found it useful enough to use - the only time I can remember is when I had to look at how stuff was stored in memory (some unicode issue, iirc).
I did try to use Eclipse - new Nokia tools seem to use that now - but wasn't very successful (the full version costs money anyway, and my company is poor).
My other experience with Eclipse was working through the Google Android tutorials. I even had to get it running in 32-bit mode on my 64-bit amd. Google had a 'step-by-step' and the whole process seemed to work just fine and was very pleasant. Everything just worked. Very nice.
Thinking about it...but not getting very far really:|
Isn't 'the point of explosion' changing? I mean, this satellite is actually going to hit the Earth at some point, no? I mean, it is getting closer to Earth and so is not in an orbit, right?
If the missile gave all it's energy to just one small bit of the satellite, then it could escape the gravitational pull althogether, or does that just not happen and the gravitational pull is still there, but very small?
Does this mean that all the things we send up into space will eventually come back again? This doesn't sound right to me.
In any case, why can't they use this hydrozine (or whatever) to make it stay up there, or come down faster/etc/etc? Have they lost control? I guess I should read TFA - I hate having to do that:(
Sorry, I didn't do Physics 101, or whatever that is (sounds like a US thing to me).
It's like all the other responses here...except you also changed the 'aha!' to 'Ahah!', which I thought was significant in some way and couldn't see past that.
is a spiral, where it gets closer and closer, albeit potentially very slowly, not an orbit then?
If so, I guess nothing can be in a real orbit, since it would be impossible to be exactly right...everything would be going too fast or too slow by some amount or other.
Slashdot Mirror
> Firefox/Flashblock to the rescue? Anyway, I agree that it's crap to have to view that flash stuff to see the main content.
Well, precisely. Flashblock doesn't help you when there's nothing to see otherwise...
More flash crap.
"Oh good, the page has finished loading. Bollocks, there's still some flash left to load."
Will we ever be free of this crap?
It's made a sort of 'two-stage' internet - load the html, then load the flash baggage.
eol == end of life
:)
It seems they have the end of their project in sight
indeed...it's easy to make a 'comment' using tags (as I did, I guess) and then not bother to even read the story...somewhat pointless since the tags don't necessarily even show up. your proposal sounds much more sensible.
right. fair enough points. no problem with, "disconnected from the rest of the internet", although since there are so many links, it is highly unlikely (it's probably only possible for the government to do that).
However, China was only an example, and perhaps it isn't a good one since it's peculiar for it's large size - if I had chosen a smaller country, it'd likely have significantly less connections and so would be easier for it to become "disconnected from the rest of the internet".
Ah, now *that* is a good argument, though I have no idea if it's technically correct - I mean, don't they have mirrors or other such distributed systems? It seems like it would be a good idea, especially for a country like China where it's popular (I assume it is popular, since I hear lots of complaints from US people about gold or something).
However, I don't think WoW is particularly important, nor MSN which would probably be what most people would notice (again, I wonder if it would work using some Chinese server or something).
What *would* be important is companies' VPN going down, but, again, that's mainly US companies with Chinese offices - ie mostly US interests, and things which are inherently dependant on CN-US communications.
Hrm. I'm not sure I see your point, but let me guess.
The US companies want to take advantage of expanding markets in the rest of the world and so invest in connectivity to said markets.
Nope, that doesn't explain why people in China (for example) should consider the internet in China to be any less 'the internet' than that in the US.
It must be something else...
Oh? You mean like many Apple products for example.
Actually, it's quite clear that China *can* produce quality products and in fact it's the QA (or lack thereof) exercised by certain US companies that is at fault.
Since when does 'teen' mean 'children'?
In some countries people become adults at something like 16-18, but I was under the impression that even in the US children become adults during their teens (except for drinking alcohol, strangely).
Am I missing something?
Haha!
:p
Time for this Asia (China) resident to get his own back by tagging this story as 'andnothingofvaluewaslost'.
For those of you who don't know, a lot of the stories about Asian countries losing connectivity to large parts of the rest of the world were tagged as 'andnothingofvaluewas lost'. Of course, it could be argued that it is the countries that lost the connectivity that didn't lose anything of value, but hey.
I wonder why it is often stated that such places have lost their 'connection to the internet' when at least some of them probably don't much notice (China wouldn't notice much more than MSN not working, for example) - do people think that 'the internet' lives in the USA or something?
Written nicely in an entertaining way for the layman such as myself.
I couldn't help noticing this statement though :
"He has long, gray hair and a long, white beard and, with all due respect, looks as if he belongs on a mountaintop in Tibet."
Those physical features are notably absent from the stereotypical mountain top Tibetan dweller - ie the Tibetan monk. Ah, using Google images shows a couple of people with long beards, but not typical, judging from the results.
My guess is that he's talking about the Unix lab named "Tibet" at Berkeley University where you'll undoubtedly find many such specimens.
Yes, I made that up - I've no idea if there's a Unix lab named "Tibet" at Berkeley.
My new installs are Ubuntu or Ubuntu server depending on the purpose - though with that I'm a bit pissed that they've dropped PPC support (though it's continued by the community or something) - and it's a bit odd for a person from Fedora/RedHat land.
TFA is slow at loading at the moment so I can't check, but I doubt he bothered to load up the Mac so that it has the same features as the PC, if that's even possible. I mean, that's what Mac people usually try to do to PCs when the comparison is the other way...
"other product groups"? Is that what you're calling Google these days?
"elsewhere"?
The unethical business practices are unethical everywhere.
IIRC, the IRIX port did the real work using the graphics h/w so it was intereactive compared to a pc. But I don't recall ever seeing it running, so I'm not sure.
I'm surprised to hear someone is still running it.
> That, sir, is a period.
In America perhaps.
In some other places, it means something else which I don't much care to go into, but, if you're in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex, it isn't a pleasant time (for either party).
> Furthermore, they used to have a IRIX and Solaris port (back in the Photoshop 2 and 3 days, I believe), so it's not like they didn't have the UNIX experience.
Fixed.
> Frankly, the Community could start charging for this software and my company would gladly pay whatever they asked. These three programs are absolutely invaluable to us.
Feel free to suggest that your company make a donation; I suggest the cost of the equivalent Adobe product.
These are the links I could find :
GIMP : http://www.gimp.org/donating/
Scribus : http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Scribus_Public_Wiki:Site_support
Inkscape : http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Inkscape_Wiki:Site_support
> Windows Mobile also being the dominant player in that field is a fluke,
It isn't the dominant player - that would be Symbian, mainly of the S60 variety.
Unless, by "that field" you mean mobile devices that run Microsoft Operating Systems.
Actually, I found this to be the case when I tried VS, when I used it to develop a Symbian C++ application ... or more like spending time recovering from VS pissing over all my build files. I guess that could have been the Nokia VS plugin though, I suppose, and not VS specifically.
Whatever it was, it kept changing all the makefiles/etc from under me, and various other annoying things that I couldn't understand, and it kept getting me into a mess. It basically just took over and assumed it had control of everything. The Nokia S60 build environment is very complicated with many different bits in it, and the last thing I needed was it changing things like that without telling me or putting them back again afterwards.
I went back to the command line (cygwin and dos) and wrong my own perl script to do the job - much easier to figure out when you write it yourself, though there's a certain amount of wheel reinvention, I suspect, and never could get perl to work properly on Windows (mostly problems with installing/loading modules). Seems like VS required some training to use properly.
I eventually figured out how to stop it from doing that annoying stuff, but I rarely found it useful enough to use - the only time I can remember is when I had to look at how stuff was stored in memory (some unicode issue, iirc).
I did try to use Eclipse - new Nokia tools seem to use that now - but wasn't very successful (the full version costs money anyway, and my company is poor).
My other experience with Eclipse was working through the Google Android tutorials. I even had to get it running in 32-bit mode on my 64-bit amd. Google had a 'step-by-step' and the whole process seemed to work just fine and was very pleasant. Everything just worked. Very nice.
Thinking about it...but not getting very far really :|
:(
Isn't 'the point of explosion' changing? I mean, this satellite is actually going to hit the Earth at some point, no? I mean, it is getting closer to Earth and so is not in an orbit, right?
If the missile gave all it's energy to just one small bit of the satellite, then it could escape the gravitational pull althogether, or does that just not happen and the gravitational pull is still there, but very small?
Does this mean that all the things we send up into space will eventually come back again? This doesn't sound right to me.
In any case, why can't they use this hydrozine (or whatever) to make it stay up there, or come down faster/etc/etc? Have they lost control? I guess I should read TFA - I hate having to do that
Sorry, I didn't do Physics 101, or whatever that is (sounds like a US thing to me).
ah, I see.
It's like all the other responses here...except you also changed the 'aha!' to 'Ahah!', which I thought was significant in some way and couldn't see past that.
Sorry about that.
is that true?
is a spiral, where it gets closer and closer, albeit potentially very slowly, not an orbit then?
If so, I guess nothing can be in a real orbit, since it would be impossible to be exactly right...everything would be going too fast or too slow by some amount or other.
wow, the USA is powerful after all - they can arrange for the ecplise to happen on a day of their choosing. amazing.