Does that mean the impact won't cause an explosion? After all, IINM, a pin can cause a balloon to explode and it doesn't have any kind of warhead at all (though it's a bit sharp, I guess)....serious question...
IINM, a large proportion of the equipment you consider reliable are also made in China.
From what I've seen, a lot of people prefer low prices to high reliability, so things for local consumption are made poorly. They are perfectly capable of making high quality goods. It's when the QA is substandard that the quality suffers, since they obviously want to maximise profits.
IMO, the poor quality of some of China's exports are due to the poor QA exerted by the US customer companies. I don't see Apple having any trouble, for example, and I'm sure there are plenty of others. It's really about checking the product before it leaves the factory.
er, ok. Nothing of *value* then. Certainly nothing that would stop me wanting to have their results filtered from my google search results. I guess I was talking about sites that had legitamate content but which had been poisoned by various malware or whatever.
i agree with you, and this is illustrated by the market in china where both linux and ms oses are ~free. Even though they are ~equal cost, they still choose microsoft and (imo) because of the applications (which are also generally ~free).
It's at most 'funny'. Clearly the gp meant one of the various 'Microsoft' operating systems as a platform, so the parent deliberately misunderstood it...
Their Chinese search web site already returns different results to their US one.
I guess my point is that they can still list infected sites in the results on their Chinese search engine, but remove them from everyone else's, and by doing so they'd not affect too many people in a negative way but have a more significant impact in a positive way.
This still supposes that:
1) the sites in question are hosted in China for a Chinese audience, 2) visitors from outside China are there by accident because the sites were listed in the (non-Chinese) Google search results.
That first one might not be true, since hosting servers in China is very cheap, so perhaps some entities host sites in China intended for non-Chinese audience in order to cut costs.
Did you notice that it says that most offending sites are hosted in China?
I think this is kind of interesting. Who hosts sites *in China* that are meant for viewers outside of China? I guess there might be some sites, but not many, I think.
Also, very few Chinese people use Google, so if Google started taking out 'offending' sites from it's search results then very few people would be affected.
In fact, it seems to me that only good can come if they do so. Very few people use Google to find sites hosted in China and so they might as well take the results out anyway.
...but, IMO, it would have very little effect on those who host the sites because Google isn't that important in China.
If there *are* sites in China meant for viewers elsewhere (where Google is actually used a lot), then what you suggest might work.
yes they did because it was the bbc. I don't know about the local media because i don't watch chinese telivision (or cctv9 which is in english), but like i suggested, maybe they wouldn't mention it because he's not important enough to mention anyway so why would they show it? I don't suppose they mention any of the people on/. who say they aren't coming either.
> It didnt really become a money making event until the Los Angeles organisers showed you could turn a profit by commercialising the living hell out of it in 1984
> For example, the people living inside China still don't know the reasons Spielberg gave for his resignation from the position of cultural director of the Olympic games in China. Just one small example.
False. I am living in China and I know about it....or am I not part of 'the people'?
I doubt 'the people' even knew he was anything to do with the Olympics, if they'd even heard of him at all. He *is* fairly well known, but he's not as important as people seem to think. I've read a few people on/. are not going to attend and/or view the Olympics for one reason or another too - and I doubt people in China are aware of those either.
His political statement is certainly lost on people here and is purely for people outside of China and his own conscience. If they do know, then they probably think he's stupid and would make a better 'statement' on human rights by renouncing his US citizenship.
On the other hand, perhaps that's the point you're trying to make...their media don't tell them the same 'facts' as your media tells you, so they think western governments are worse, while you think China's government is worse....and if you think western media isn't biased in the opposite direction, then you need a reality check of some kind.
Indeed, and some are lucky enough to be born as men and so have a distinct advantage in most sports over those who are born women. Indeed, the advantage is so much that they have separate events. The have a while separate 'games' for people with disabilities and the guy with the fake limb should compete in that, even if he does end up performing better than competitors in the regular games.
I see a future where the para-Olympics is where all the records will be set...
This isn't anything specific to China. In fact, as I read TFA, this is *less* restrictive than previous Olympics - it says, "a first for the Olympics', ie they'd previously not allowed such a thing at all (did blogs exist in any meaningful way 4 years ago?).
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Well, *I* thought it was funny ;)
I was thinking this whole thing has a Bond007-esque flavour to it. What do you think?
> one was in high orbit,
I'm assuming this is the Chinese one.
Does this explain why no one here is 'up in arms' about it causing lots of space debris, like they were when the Chinese shot down theirs?
Just curious...
If there was a joke there, it flew over my head...care to explain? I want it to be funny; really, I do...I love a good chortle.
> heres the link to Wikipedia
To quote the interesting part[1]...
"Monomethylhydrazine (MMH)...is also found...in...the common mushroom in grocery stores."
Mushroom cloud anyone?
[1] and leave out the relevant part
Does that mean the impact won't cause an explosion? After all, IINM, a pin can cause a balloon to explode and it doesn't have any kind of warhead at all (though it's a bit sharp, I guess). ...serious question...
most Americans need to know just the one foreign language - English.
in my experience, high tech equipment isn't cheap in china; it's slightly more expensive than in the US.
Of course, I don't have much idea about the equipment used in nano-tech.
IINM, a large proportion of the equipment you consider reliable are also made in China.
From what I've seen, a lot of people prefer low prices to high reliability, so things for local consumption are made poorly. They are perfectly capable of making high quality goods. It's when the QA is substandard that the quality suffers, since they obviously want to maximise profits.
IMO, the poor quality of some of China's exports are due to the poor QA exerted by the US customer companies. I don't see Apple having any trouble, for example, and I'm sure there are plenty of others. It's really about checking the product before it leaves the factory.
er, ok.
Nothing of *value* then. Certainly nothing that would stop me wanting to have their results filtered from my google search results.
I guess I was talking about sites that had legitamate content but which had been poisoned by various malware or whatever.
> The information is a little dated, but may still holds some truth.
Indeed, it makes some sense too.
I would guess this will change when DVD-Rs completely replace CD-Rs, if that even happens.
on the other hand, most web chinese web sites only work with ie...but i guess that's an application too, in a way.
i agree with you, and this is illustrated by the market in china where both linux and ms oses are ~free. Even though they are ~equal cost, they still choose microsoft and (imo) because of the applications (which are also generally ~free).
sorry, but I can't understand your point....care to elabourate?
how did this get modded 'insightful'?
It's at most 'funny'. Clearly the gp meant one of the various 'Microsoft' operating systems as a platform, so the parent deliberately misunderstood it...
I don't get 'insightful' anywhere in that.
Eh?
Their Chinese search web site already returns different results to their US one.
I guess my point is that they can still list infected sites in the results on their Chinese search engine, but remove them from everyone else's, and by doing so they'd not affect too many people in a negative way but have a more significant impact in a positive way.
This still supposes that:
1) the sites in question are hosted in China for a Chinese audience,
2) visitors from outside China are there by accident because the sites were listed in the (non-Chinese) Google search results.
That first one might not be true, since hosting servers in China is very cheap, so perhaps some entities host sites in China intended for non-Chinese audience in order to cut costs.
> No Javascript, no ActiveX, no Macromedia Flash.
:)
:)
You work at heaven.com?
Cool!
I want to work there too
On the other hand, I use NoScript, and it can be annoying sometimes...
I like your idea of Google displaying the technologies used on the pages they list
Did you notice that it says that most offending sites are hosted in China?
...but, IMO, it would have very little effect on those who host the sites because Google isn't that important in China.
I think this is kind of interesting. Who hosts sites *in China* that are meant for viewers outside of China? I guess there might be some sites, but not many, I think.
Also, very few Chinese people use Google, so if Google started taking out 'offending' sites from it's search results then very few people would be affected.
In fact, it seems to me that only good can come if they do so. Very few people use Google to find sites hosted in China and so they might as well take the results out anyway.
If there *are* sites in China meant for viewers elsewhere (where Google is actually used a lot), then what you suggest might work.
nice reply :) fair enough
yes they did because it was the bbc. I don't know about the local media because i don't watch chinese telivision (or cctv9 which is in english), but like i suggested, maybe they wouldn't mention it because he's not important enough to mention anyway so why would they show it? /. who say they aren't coming either.
I don't suppose they mention any of the people on
> It didnt really become a money making event until the Los Angeles organisers showed you could turn a profit by commercialising the living hell out of it in 1984
Oh, so this is the American's fault?
> For example, the people living inside China still don't know the reasons Spielberg gave for his resignation from the position of cultural director of the Olympic games in China. Just one small example.
...or am I not part of 'the people'?
/. are not going to attend and/or view the Olympics for one reason or another too - and I doubt people in China are aware of those either.
...and if you think western media isn't biased in the opposite direction, then you need a reality check of some kind.
False. I am living in China and I know about it.
I doubt 'the people' even knew he was anything to do with the Olympics, if they'd even heard of him at all. He *is* fairly well known, but he's not as important as people seem to think. I've read a few people on
His political statement is certainly lost on people here and is purely for people outside of China and his own conscience. If they do know, then they probably think he's stupid and would make a better 'statement' on human rights by renouncing his US citizenship.
On the other hand, perhaps that's the point you're trying to make...their media don't tell them the same 'facts' as your media tells you, so they think western governments are worse, while you think China's government is worse.
Indeed, and some are lucky enough to be born as men and so have a distinct advantage in most sports over those who are born women. Indeed, the advantage is so much that they have separate events. The have a while separate 'games' for people with disabilities and the guy with the fake limb should compete in that, even if he does end up performing better than competitors in the regular games.
I see a future where the para-Olympics is where all the records will be set...
Yeah, and I wonder how the anti-China US /. posters will manage to blame China for *that*?
It seems like they blame China for everything these days...
> so they'd blast China
This isn't anything specific to China. In fact, as I read TFA, this is *less* restrictive than previous Olympics - it says, "a first for the Olympics', ie they'd previously not allowed such a thing at all (did blogs exist in any meaningful way 4 years ago?).