I don't think they can. Article 16(1) and (2) of the Berne Convention say:
(1)Infringing copies of a work shall be liable to seizure in any country of the Union where the work enjoys legal protection.
(2) The provisions of the preceding paragraph shall also apply to reproductions coming from a country where the work is not protected, or has ceased to be protected.
This is why many CDs imported from Asia are technically illegal to sell in the US--they are bootlegs. SonMay and other companies come to mind. Also, you cannot sell pirated Windows XP in the US if you import the pirated works from Singapore or another non-signatory of the Berne Convention.
Of course, if the importing country isn't a signatory and they have no relevant local IP laws, I don't see why they couldn't import the media.
Also note that in (1), the "work" is not "individual copy of the work," but rather the abstract notion of the work itself. For example, my copy of Santa Clause Defeats the Martians is not the work, but rather the concept/idea/production/etc. of the most amazing and wonderful film.
Full disclosure: I don't start studying IP law and international law for three more days or so, so this is only a vague merely-one-year-completed law student understanding of IP law. I'm sure there are many intricacies that I don't know, but I feel confident enough about my understanding to place electron to monitor (pen to paper? anyone?) and click "Submit."
One difference is that when DVDs came out, a regular TV that everyone had could show you the difference (beyond quality, there was no more rewinding and fast-forwarding, and the discs were smaller). However, most people don't own high def TVs. Thus, they will not see the difference between DVDs and the newer formats until they plunk down two grand on a new TV. Or until they hang out at a friend's house who has such a TV. There is no significant "convenience" improvement since DVDs. And finally, they are all the same size (except high def media is more expensive).
People look at you funny if you want to talk about the space program or something crazy like that. But if you want to talk about how Johnny Random hit a ball with a bat, that's fuckin fascinating..
Maybe its just where I work or something? -- IANAL, but... Oh wait. Yes I am.
Judging by your sig, you work at a law firm (or with lawyers). Thus, I'm deducing that lawyers tend to talk incessantly about sports.
I am a law student, and judging by the only fucking thing my classmates talk about, my experiences support your assertion.:(:(:(
Where the fuck do you go to school? I've never heard of tuition being that high anywhere in the world! Remember, you said it was only tuition. No university in the US has tuition that high, except for maybe Spanky McRipyouoff U.
In a way that gave them the opportunity to be MORE creative, because they had to SUGGEST more than they could display.
WARNING: SPOILERS FOR A DECADES OLD HITCHCOCK FILM (North by Northwest)
Agreed. When Cary Grant and his new wife Eva Marie Saint kiss at the end of the movie and are getting all steamed up, the final scene is of the train they are riding in go through a tunnel. I laughed hard when I saw that scene for the first time. What a brilliant sexual allusion which got missed by the censors!
into the Terminal (when Safari isn't open) and changing your user agent (Debug->User Agent) to Internet Explorer. Most sites that "require" a certain browser will work in Safari.
Boy, what they say about Apple, usability, and intuitiveness is so fucking true!
The service also allows for more than just internet, you can run IPTV and VOIP services over it as well,
I'm pretty sure that "IPTV" and "VOIP" are elements in the set "the internet." I mean, practically the only requirement of that set is that the element has to do packet switching using the IP, and that's what the "IP" in "VoIP" and "IPTV" stands for.
I'm a pretty spartan person - if it's in a safe part of town, clean and has a bed, toilet, shower, internet and proper heating/cooling system, then I'm fine with whatever cheap place I can find.
If you truly were spartan when it came to hotels, your list would read like this: safe part of town and has a bed. I don't understand how a hotel room could be any less spartan than what you just described, unless you really wanted porn and a minibar.
My work IP is currently banned from wikipedia for vandalism. I've investigated this, and it was apparently some idiot in another building that's not even in the same zip code but who happens to work at another subsidiary under the same parent company that shares my IP.
Well, um, congratulations, you have an incentive to do work instead of edit Wikipedia when you're gettin' paid.
I think that pattern is really indicative of something; primarily that many passionate motivated people end up not teaching because school systems are underfunded, parents would rather complain about the problem than work to fix it, etc...
And that belies the essential reason democracy cannot solve the "education problem"--it requires too much delayed gratification.
To solve this problem would require many years of increasing taxes and paying teachers more. By that time, a parent's kids would be halfway through school (and that's if we're talking about parents who become aware of the problem starting in kindergarten). People don't want higher taxes for a better educational system because they won't see an immediate benefit.
The benefits to paying higher taxes to pay teachers better and attract more motivated people to the profession would be a more prosperous country and lower violent crime (once the kids graduate from high school: 12-13 year lag). 13 years of paying higher taxes without seeing any result? Any politician plotting that would not get reelected if he came up against someone promising to roll back those new taxes.
The quicker, easier, and better solution is just to send your kids to private school and not depend on your neighbors to be willing to endure higher taxes, because they will let you down in this area.
We're talking about an age group that had the internet available since they were toddlers.
While I agree with your sentiments, that's not really true. The internet didn't really become accessible to the masses until 1996, and the kids in college now were all born by 1988. That puts the youngest at 8 years old. Most college kids haven't had the internet around since they were toddlers.
Still, that doesn't change your conclusion, only the givens.
According to either my Contracts or my Civil Procedure (law) professor (I forget which), 90% of lawyers never see the inside of a courtroom because the cases settle before it gets to that stage.
I download podcasts as I remarked before..... No, that is not streaming and it isn't illegal to download the podcasts. Open up your horizons a little bit and learn before you put your foot in it!
What you said earlier:
Maybe you use it for piracy but I use it to download my linux distributions, you tube files, etc. so please put things in proper context! Remarkable amount of FUD going around lately along with theft. More prosecution for violation of GPL needs to happen.
I don't see anywhere that you mentioned podcasts. However you did mention YouTube clips, which are streamed via Flash to your browser. They, of course, then stay on your drive, but since you view them as you are downloading them, they are streaming files. Here is the definition of "streaming media" as given by Wikipedia: Streaming media is multimedia that is continuously received by, and normally displayed to, the end-user while it is being delivered by the provider. That's exactly what YouTube does.
And don't presume that you know my podcast habits. As you said nothing about podcasts, I said nothing about podcasts. And yes, downloading from YouTube without express permission from the content creator (and possibly Google) would constitute copyright infringement.
I download many podcasts myself (TWiT, Security Now, Diggnation, Happy Tree Friends, etc.) and have no belief that downloading podcasts is categorically illegal.
Also, I've been studying law for more than 33 hours. Sheesh. My sig is just a description of one particular study session.
But what if I am looking for articles about companies being bastards or behaving in a generally lame manner? Then those tags are exactly right for what I'm doing!
If you're using it to download YouTube files, you most likely are using it for piracy. Typically, when one uploads a file to YouTube, you're giving YouTube a license to "stream" it. If someone rips a FLV from YouTube, they are pirating the video almost definitely, unless within the FLV or the comments there is something to the extent of "download away, boys!" Otherwise, you are pirating it.
Of course, it's a bit like when you save an image of a website. It is still pirating content, it's just that probably no one really cares. Doesn't change the legality one bit.
The original Japanese says it is confirmed as working on something called the IE Component Browser. Is this the Trident engine? I take "IE component browser" to be the thing you can wrap in your own skin/"browser" and brand it the "TheoMurpse Browser!!!(TM)"
No, it's more like having tires that can go over both highways and old dirt roads. Unless you want old web pages that are no longer maintained (but still have useful information) to be completely inaccessible (think: nearly 100% of everything on the Wayback Machine), you want to support the deprecated stuff, too.
Sample (If you're using IE, the browser will close! Be careful) If it's IE6 or IE6 component browser, it definitely seems to crash! I haven't checked IE7 though! if inside TABLE or TR there is an INPUT or SELECT, and in that neighborhood through the CSS Universal Selector, there is position:relative, you've got problems! Incidentally, if you put relative directly in the style of an INPUT the browser will crash! What is this?! I don't really understand it but it's interesting, isn't it...! Children of Firefox and Opera will this think is like many roses fluttering down as IE's share plummets.
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Of course, if the importing country isn't a signatory and they have no relevant local IP laws, I don't see why they couldn't import the media.
Also note that in (1), the "work" is not "individual copy of the work," but rather the abstract notion of the work itself. For example, my copy of Santa Clause Defeats the Martians is not the work, but rather the concept/idea/production/etc. of the most amazing and wonderful film.
Full disclosure: I don't start studying IP law and international law for three more days or so, so this is only a vague merely-one-year-completed law student understanding of IP law. I'm sure there are many intricacies that I don't know, but I feel confident enough about my understanding to place electron to monitor (pen to paper? anyone?) and click "Submit."
One difference is that when DVDs came out, a regular TV that everyone had could show you the difference (beyond quality, there was no more rewinding and fast-forwarding, and the discs were smaller). However, most people don't own high def TVs. Thus, they will not see the difference between DVDs and the newer formats until they plunk down two grand on a new TV. Or until they hang out at a friend's house who has such a TV. There is no significant "convenience" improvement since DVDs. And finally, they are all the same size (except high def media is more expensive).
Judging by your sig, you work at a law firm (or with lawyers). Thus, I'm deducing that lawyers tend to talk incessantly about sports.
I am a law student, and judging by the only fucking thing my classmates talk about, my experiences support your assertion.
Truly your argument is insightful! You've convinced me!
WARNING: SPOILERS FOR A DECADES OLD HITCHCOCK FILM (North by Northwest)
Agreed. When Cary Grant and his new wife Eva Marie Saint kiss at the end of the movie and are getting all steamed up, the final scene is of the train they are riding in go through a tunnel. I laughed hard when I saw that scene for the first time. What a brilliant sexual allusion which got missed by the censors!
/is about to buy his first Apple laptop ever
For those of you who have never applied for a passport before, here's a comparison:
I moved to Japan in Sept 2004. Before leaving, I had to get a passport. IIRC, the form said "please allow six weeks for delivery."
In three years, we've gone from a six week to three months waiting period.
To solve this problem would require many years of increasing taxes and paying teachers more. By that time, a parent's kids would be halfway through school (and that's if we're talking about parents who become aware of the problem starting in kindergarten). People don't want higher taxes for a better educational system because they won't see an immediate benefit.
The benefits to paying higher taxes to pay teachers better and attract more motivated people to the profession would be a more prosperous country and lower violent crime (once the kids graduate from high school: 12-13 year lag). 13 years of paying higher taxes without seeing any result? Any politician plotting that would not get reelected if he came up against someone promising to roll back those new taxes.
The quicker, easier, and better solution is just to send your kids to private school and not depend on your neighbors to be willing to endure higher taxes, because they will let you down in this area.
Still, that doesn't change your conclusion, only the givens.
According to either my Contracts or my Civil Procedure (law) professor (I forget which), 90% of lawyers never see the inside of a courtroom because the cases settle before it gets to that stage.
I agree with you about BT being misunderstood and mishandled. We are indeed on the same end of things (internet radio, etc.)
:)
And thanks for serving our country.
What you said earlier:
I don't see anywhere that you mentioned podcasts. However you did mention YouTube clips, which are streamed via Flash to your browser. They, of course, then stay on your drive, but since you view them as you are downloading them, they are streaming files. Here is the definition of "streaming media" as given by Wikipedia: Streaming media is multimedia that is continuously received by, and normally displayed to, the end-user while it is being delivered by the provider. That's exactly what YouTube does.
And don't presume that you know my podcast habits. As you said nothing about podcasts, I said nothing about podcasts. And yes, downloading from YouTube without express permission from the content creator (and possibly Google) would constitute copyright infringement.
I download many podcasts myself (TWiT, Security Now, Diggnation, Happy Tree Friends, etc.) and have no belief that downloading podcasts is categorically illegal.
Also, I've been studying law for more than 33 hours. Sheesh. My sig is just a description of one particular study session.
But what if I am looking for articles about companies being bastards or behaving in a generally lame manner? Then those tags are exactly right for what I'm doing!
If you're using it to download YouTube files, you most likely are using it for piracy. Typically, when one uploads a file to YouTube, you're giving YouTube a license to "stream" it. If someone rips a FLV from YouTube, they are pirating the video almost definitely, unless within the FLV or the comments there is something to the extent of "download away, boys!" Otherwise, you are pirating it.
Of course, it's a bit like when you save an image of a website. It is still pirating content, it's just that probably no one really cares. Doesn't change the legality one bit.
The original Japanese says it is confirmed as working on something called the IE Component Browser. Is this the Trident engine? I take "IE component browser" to be the thing you can wrap in your own skin/"browser" and brand it the "TheoMurpse Browser!!!(TM)"
Err, I meant that the translation fails to capture the humor.
No, it's more like having tires that can go over both highways and old dirt roads. Unless you want old web pages that are no longer maintained (but still have useful information) to be completely inaccessible (think: nearly 100% of everything on the Wayback Machine), you want to support the deprecated stuff, too.