What about people who travel around on a laptop, and thus borrow SMTP servers to send mail "from" their home email address?
So sorry, so sad. That practice has to be let go for the love of god!
Why? I travel a lot, are you telling me I need a different email address for every location I visit? Imagine if you needed a different email address every time you left the basement! Oh wait, you probably never have, which is why you think what you do.
Furthermore, this is what i think about you: ( ) sorry dude, but i don't think it would work. (X) this is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) nice try, assh0le! i'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
(X) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
Only as much as all other email is effected. Legitimate reasons for spoofing the "from" header would be affected, but that's the whole point!
Any collateral damage on mailing lists or other legitimate uses is unacceptable. Nobody wants an interim period of a year when all email systems are flaky and your info feeds are intermittent.
Also, how hard would it be for a black market in "trust points" to build up? Spammers could set up new SMTP servers, forward mail for a while, vouch for each other repeatedly, and then when enough points have been accumulated, blast all their spam out as quickly as possible. Any system that makes it hard to build trust would be unworkable as new mailservers would be excluded, and any system that makes it easy to build trust is open to gaming. Also, spammers could just piggy back onto existing trusted servers using hacked accounts or compromised networks or simply set up accounts with ISPs that have cheap monthly plans.
Finally, remember that botnets could simply be programmed to grab the machine's default SMTP server from Thunderbird, Outlook or Outlook Express and spam through that. ISP's would need to stay ahead of the curve here, by detecting outgoing spam. Any other restriction would place too great a burden on legitimate mass mailings like newsletters, mailing lists etc.
Dude, the sort of interruption to email services that you suggest are totally unrealistic, and can never be allowed to happen. I'd rather wade through the 10 spam messages that get through a day than to not get an unknown percentage of the 200 or so emails (mailing lists etc) that I expect to be getting.
specifically, your plan fails to account for (X) travellers, telecommuters and other mobile users (X) open relays in foreign countries (X) huge existing software investment in smtp (X) susceptibility of protocols other than smtp to attack (X) willingness of users to install os patches received by email (X) technically illiterate politicians (X) extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers (X) dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves (X) botnets
Overall, one of the poorer attempts to solve spam from an armchair that I've seen.
There is already a cure for the common cold. It was invented a while ago, they called it the "immune system". Not sure if it's still in beta though. I believe some l33t hax0r known only as AIDS has found an exploit, but requires root access in order to penetrate the system's perimeter. At the moment, the best defence is from a company called "Durex", who manufacture a patch for your hardware.
In 1948 the state of Israel had existed for 12 months, after a declaration by the British that Arab land was now going to be called "Israel". Calling Arab armies going to Israel in 1948 an "invasion" is a little silly. You can't invade land that you owned 12 months earlier that was forcibly and arbitrarily taken from you.
I don't want to sound disparaging when I say this, but your brain is akin to scrapings from a retarded baboons arse. The source of slashdot is, as of this very moment, 88kb. What you described includes all CSS, JS and externally referenced HTML, which is significantly more than the source required for "View Source". And before you go off all half cocked, that 412kb of CSS and JS etc is already cached, so the only difference over what is already there would be the 88kb.
I seriously don't understand the animosity towards Mozilla for becoming a "real" company. It's enabling them to do a lot of great things that they wouldn't have been able to do otherwise.
Not being aggressive, but genuinely asking, what sort of things are you talking about?
Yes, this is FF default behavior. Try viewing the source of the resulting page after a login form. You'll get the "Reload page and resend POST data?" dialog box.
One more thing, after watching many, many other children grow up (I'm an Indian, so I have a large family, about a billion or so;) ) I can say that some parents with unimpeachable moral habits and a huge amounts of parental diligence will still end up with a kid who ends up with a kid of their own at age 19 and a raging drug habit, while their neighbours, where both parents work night jobs and couldn't give a rat's ass about their kids' emotional, intellectual, spiritual or educational development end up with a child who grows up to be a rocket scientist. I'm only 28, so I can't really speak with the wisdom of the ages, but I can say that from what I've seen so far in my life, parenting has a large component of roll the dice in it.
I have Firebug and Web Dev toolbar and a whole bunch of others. View source still gets used heaps, as the HTML real time validator uses it. View source is a core part of any web dev work.
First off, at 19 she's an adult in every state in the union and can make those decisions for herself. If she falls on her ass, well that's just part of growing up isn't it? Second, if your teenage daughter (of any age) comes home pregnant with "some local punk's child" then you'd better take a good hard look at yourself and ask what you did wrong -- because I promise you that you'll be responsible for more of the blame than the media is.
I agree with your sentiments about parenting, but I'm just noting that no man is an island. Neither is his child. Instilling good moral character would not be so problematic if you weren't fighting an uphill battle in your child's mind against the alluring world of consumerism and decadence that advertisers spend so much effort trying to convince people to buy into. Re: videogames, no, I don't buy the "violent video games is bad" line. My favourite video game is Battlefield 2. Nothing is better for stress than a good vantage point and a sniper rifle.
I really think that we agree on our fundamental points, and I concede that the issues I raise do make me sound like a right wing censorship clown. I'm really not. I fully understand the importance of individual responsibility, and that no amount of social change will be an adequate substitute.
Oh, and seeing as the other poster seems to feel that it's relevant, I am a Muslim.
There is nothing in Islam about killing pagans, I was referring to the non-citizen tax, which I don't consider to be an issue. Non-citizens in all countries today are subject to restrictions such as extra levies, work and movement restrictions. Perhaps you should re-read the post you pointed to, as I clearly state that neither I, nor Islam, agrees with killing pagans.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I don't understand why Jimbo's transgressions get such venomous criticism while the Bush family can embezzle money from the US taxpayer with contrived contracts to his cronies' organisations.
Get some perspective people, there are real fish to fry.
Yea! And all those Windows users should also be ashamed of themselves for not using IE! And don't even get me started on Linux users who don't use Lynx. Using Linux with a graphical program! How irresponsible!
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SSDs are *not* slower than mag platter drives. Get one and try it before firing your mouth off, private!
Why? I travel a lot, are you telling me I need a different email address for every location I visit? Imagine if you needed a different email address every time you left the basement! Oh wait, you probably never have, which is why you think what you do.
Any collateral damage on mailing lists or other legitimate uses is unacceptable. Nobody wants an interim period of a year when all email systems are flaky and your info feeds are intermittent.
Also, how hard would it be for a black market in "trust points" to build up? Spammers could set up new SMTP servers, forward mail for a while, vouch for each other repeatedly, and then when enough points have been accumulated, blast all their spam out as quickly as possible. Any system that makes it hard to build trust would be unworkable as new mailservers would be excluded, and any system that makes it easy to build trust is open to gaming. Also, spammers could just piggy back onto existing trusted servers using hacked accounts or compromised networks or simply set up accounts with ISPs that have cheap monthly plans.
Finally, remember that botnets could simply be programmed to grab the machine's default SMTP server from Thunderbird, Outlook or Outlook Express and spam through that. ISP's would need to stay ahead of the curve here, by detecting outgoing spam. Any other restriction would place too great a burden on legitimate mass mailings like newsletters, mailing lists etc.
Dude, the sort of interruption to email services that you suggest are totally unrealistic, and can never be allowed to happen. I'd rather wade through the 10 spam messages that get through a day than to not get an unknown percentage of the 200 or so emails (mailing lists etc) that I expect to be getting.
Overall, one of the poorer attempts to solve spam from an armchair that I've seen.
Your post advocates a
(X) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
See earlier posts for the rest of the response.
I think it was an oversite on their part.
And yet there is this bizarre belief that all those who oppose American invasions are "terrorists".
No, Palestine owned Palestine.
*Mumbles something about welcoming new cowhale overlords*
*Gets modded to the depths of hell*
*Swears*
There is already a cure for the common cold. It was invented a while ago, they called it the "immune system". Not sure if it's still in beta though. I believe some l33t hax0r known only as AIDS has found an exploit, but requires root access in order to penetrate the system's perimeter. At the moment, the best defence is from a company called "Durex", who manufacture a patch for your hardware.
Ahmedinijad, is that you?
In 1948 the state of Israel had existed for 12 months, after a declaration by the British that Arab land was now going to be called "Israel". Calling Arab armies going to Israel in 1948 an "invasion" is a little silly. You can't invade land that you owned 12 months earlier that was forcibly and arbitrarily taken from you.
What are you trying to do? Put Fox News out of business?
I use Firebug extensively. It does not have a source viewer. You, in your ignorance, may *think* it does.
I am a Muslim and I will not tolerate you criticising me for not tolerating criticism!
Wait...
Dammit!
It is, however, a subset of humour.
I don't want to sound disparaging when I say this, but your brain is akin to scrapings from a retarded baboons arse. The source of slashdot is, as of this very moment, 88kb. What you described includes all CSS, JS and externally referenced HTML, which is significantly more than the source required for "View Source". And before you go off all half cocked, that 412kb of CSS and JS etc is already cached, so the only difference over what is already there would be the 88kb.
Like I said, scrapings.
Do you really think a statistically significant portion of those persons are web developers in need of View Source?
Given that FF users statistically overrepresent geeks and standards discontents, yes.
Not being aggressive, but genuinely asking, what sort of things are you talking about?
Yes, this is FF default behavior. Try viewing the source of the resulting page after a login form. You'll get the "Reload page and resend POST data?" dialog box.
One more thing, after watching many, many other children grow up (I'm an Indian, so I have a large family, about a billion or so ;) ) I can say that some parents with unimpeachable moral habits and a huge amounts of parental diligence will still end up with a kid who ends up with a kid of their own at age 19 and a raging drug habit, while their neighbours, where both parents work night jobs and couldn't give a rat's ass about their kids' emotional, intellectual, spiritual or educational development end up with a child who grows up to be a rocket scientist. I'm only 28, so I can't really speak with the wisdom of the ages, but I can say that from what I've seen so far in my life, parenting has a large component of roll the dice in it.
I have Firebug and Web Dev toolbar and a whole bunch of others. View source still gets used heaps, as the HTML real time validator uses it. View source is a core part of any web dev work.
Half a megabyte of source?! What kind of pages are you looking at? ASCII pron?
I agree with your sentiments about parenting, but I'm just noting that no man is an island. Neither is his child. Instilling good moral character would not be so problematic if you weren't fighting an uphill battle in your child's mind against the alluring world of consumerism and decadence that advertisers spend so much effort trying to convince people to buy into. Re: videogames, no, I don't buy the "violent video games is bad" line. My favourite video game is Battlefield 2. Nothing is better for stress than a good vantage point and a sniper rifle.
I really think that we agree on our fundamental points, and I concede that the issues I raise do make me sound like a right wing censorship clown. I'm really not. I fully understand the importance of individual responsibility, and that no amount of social change will be an adequate substitute.
Oh, and seeing as the other poster seems to feel that it's relevant, I am a Muslim.
There is nothing in Islam about killing pagans, I was referring to the non-citizen tax, which I don't consider to be an issue. Non-citizens in all countries today are subject to restrictions such as extra levies, work and movement restrictions. Perhaps you should re-read the post you pointed to, as I clearly state that neither I, nor Islam, agrees with killing pagans.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I don't understand why Jimbo's transgressions get such venomous criticism while the Bush family can embezzle money from the US taxpayer with contrived contracts to his cronies' organisations.
Get some perspective people, there are real fish to fry.
Yea! And all those Windows users should also be ashamed of themselves for not using IE! And don't even get me started on Linux users who don't use Lynx. Using Linux with a graphical program! How irresponsible!