So how do I copy a file into the sandbox so that the JS can edit it and then copy the file back out when it is done?
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Interacting with files in a file system is a function of libraries, not languages. It'd be like taking C or BASIC, giving it no ability to draw graphics, and saying if you want to do graphics, use Logo instead.
JaveScript. Is. Not. For. That. JS is supposed to execute within a rendering engine, making the HTML it is displaying dynamic. I'm convinced you're missing my point on purpose.
Having 13 close buttons that all do the same thing is dumb. Middle button to close a tab if you're too lazy to click it and then close it. Why have a dozen methods to close a tab? Especially if one of those methods negatively impacts something important, like the number of readable tabs that can be open at once.
Anyway, in one breath you advocate the use of keyboard shortcuts, and in the next you say you want mouse driven close buttons on every tab.
Hello? Dr. Jekyl? I was wondering if I could have a chat with Mr. Hyde please...
Don't you watch the news? Granting "knowledge" is illegal these days.
In seriousness, JS is supposed to run in a sandbox. *If* I theoretically launch a JS app, I want it to run inside whatever it loads in, most likley my browser, and to have no permissions outside that. If you want to write an app that interacts with files and directories, use a more appropriate language for it. How many applications can you name that are written in JS and designed to run independently anyway?
Whats with all the idiots replying to my message about local apps as though someone plans on writing a text editor or imaging tool with it. Get real you lot, JS is NOT for writing local apps in, its for giving a bit of zing to HTML. Stop trying to use a shovel when a torque wrench is needed. Methinks these guys don't know how to use anything other than HTML/JS. You know, every problem looks like a nail to a guy who only knows how to use a hammer.
The Mozilla framework is not "web based", it's a local application framework that just happens to have had a web browser made out of it. XUL apps aren't any more web based than a Java applet.
It's a fine line between web based and web served, but if you can't see that line and don't understand it, then please refrain from referring to others' comments as "bullshit".
You'll never have it. At least I hope you won't. JavaScript is intended to be a locally run but sandboxed language. I don't EVER want JS to be working with local files or devices without some serious security models put in place to prevent web sites from doing nasty things without my knowledge.
If you want a server supplied, client side executing app framework, Java is supposed to be just that. Jokes about Java aside, it is the closest you'll get to full local app flexibility "embedded" in a web page.
Given that I said "That's what TV is for" I would have thought it'd be obvious that I was referring to push style broadcasting on the Internet, and that I am aware that unrequested incoming content (messages, telephones, television, radio etc). But this is/. so why am I expecting people to read what they comment on?
Wasn't push technology a still-born concept in the mid 90s? I tried PointCast once, and only once. I'm glad push technology died. Push technology, or the uncontrollable incoming flow of content, just does not work on the Internet, thats what TV is for. What's that? I'm only vaguely on topic? Oh sorry...
I guess I should be grateful they (the EU) aren't using more recently developed methods of data streaming. It could be worse, passenger data could be available as an RSS feed!
I'd say zero, but according to John Titor, everything is possible and everything has happened in a parallel universe. According to his theory, there would, believe it or not, be a reality in which up is down, black is white, George W. Bush can string a sentence together using the Queen's English and the first comment on a Slashdot post involving an application of lasers is not about sharks.
That being said, the last point there is a strong argument against the infinite multiverse theory, as it is entirely possible that the probablility of the first post not involving sharks is exactly equal to zero, and thus, could never happen in the multiverse. Perhaps another/.er can help me formulate a proof?
I can now have sharks with frikkin' laser beams! Albeit, Lego sharks instead of real 400kg Tiger Sharks and laser pointers instead of 2kW flesh-vaporising, ship-sinking Frikkin' Laser Beams(tm), but it's a step in the right direction.
Dammit I should have read the other posts first. Scratch that, I really should have PREDICTED the other posts and not made a joke that was bound to have been made once for every meter between here and Uranus.
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Actually, the tsunami was in the Indian Ocean. But who am I to nit pick? :P
Must... not... make... Foley... missile... joke...
What planet do you live on that you'd trust the US govt when they say this is what they are doing?
Dude, have you ever travelled?
Something else. Maybe we can call it yo momma. I'm done with this thread. Seeya.
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JaveScript. Is. Not. For. That. JS is supposed to execute within a rendering engine, making the HTML it is displaying dynamic. I'm convinced you're missing my point on purpose.
Having 13 close buttons that all do the same thing is dumb. Middle button to close a tab if you're too lazy to click it and then close it. Why have a dozen methods to close a tab? Especially if one of those methods negatively impacts something important, like the number of readable tabs that can be open at once.
Anyway, in one breath you advocate the use of keyboard shortcuts, and in the next you say you want mouse driven close buttons on every tab.
Hello? Dr. Jekyl? I was wondering if I could have a chat with Mr. Hyde please...
Well, what do you think you'll find a bunch of flies surrounding?
Don't you watch the news? Granting "knowledge" is illegal these days.
In seriousness, JS is supposed to run in a sandbox. *If* I theoretically launch a JS app, I want it to run inside whatever it loads in, most likley my browser, and to have no permissions outside that. If you want to write an app that interacts with files and directories, use a more appropriate language for it. How many applications can you name that are written in JS and designed to run independently anyway?
Whats with all the idiots replying to my message about local apps as though someone plans on writing a text editor or imaging tool with it. Get real you lot, JS is NOT for writing local apps in, its for giving a bit of zing to HTML. Stop trying to use a shovel when a torque wrench is needed. Methinks these guys don't know how to use anything other than HTML/JS. You know, every problem looks like a nail to a guy who only knows how to use a hammer.
The Mozilla framework is not "web based", it's a local application framework that just happens to have had a web browser made out of it. XUL apps aren't any more web based than a Java applet.
It's a fine line between web based and web served, but if you can't see that line and don't understand it, then please refrain from referring to others' comments as "bullshit".
You'll never have it. At least I hope you won't. JavaScript is intended to be a locally run but sandboxed language. I don't EVER want JS to be working with local files or devices without some serious security models put in place to prevent web sites from doing nasty things without my knowledge. If you want a server supplied, client side executing app framework, Java is supposed to be just that. Jokes about Java aside, it is the closest you'll get to full local app flexibility "embedded" in a web page.
You mean WorldCom? :P
You must be American. How else can your unwillingness to stick to core values be explained? *cough* what constitution? *cough*
Aargh! My head! My head!
Given that I said "That's what TV is for" I would have thought it'd be obvious that I was referring to push style broadcasting on the Internet, and that I am aware that unrequested incoming content (messages, telephones, television, radio etc). But this is /. so why am I expecting people to read what they comment on?
As I said:
I agree... I was going to mention it but I didn't think anyone would get it!
I love that I'm not the only Short Circuit fan here!
I bet "Passenger is wearing a turban?" is in there.
Wasn't push technology a still-born concept in the mid 90s? I tried PointCast once, and only once. I'm glad push technology died. Push technology, or the uncontrollable incoming flow of content, just does not work on the Internet, thats what TV is for. What's that? I'm only vaguely on topic? Oh sorry... I guess I should be grateful they (the EU) aren't using more recently developed methods of data streaming. It could be worse, passenger data could be available as an RSS feed!
You're right. Doing that 100,000 times in a row without making a mistake would be even dumber than just memorising it. I'm soooo not impressed.
I'd say zero, but according to John Titor, everything is possible and everything has happened in a parallel universe. According to his theory, there would, believe it or not, be a reality in which up is down, black is white, George W. Bush can string a sentence together using the Queen's English and the first comment on a Slashdot post involving an application of lasers is not about sharks.
/.er can help me formulate a proof?
That being said, the last point there is a strong argument against the infinite multiverse theory, as it is entirely possible that the probablility of the first post not involving sharks is exactly equal to zero, and thus, could never happen in the multiverse. Perhaps another
Truly, your team's lack of vision is astounding!
I can now have sharks with frikkin' laser beams! Albeit, Lego sharks instead of real 400kg Tiger Sharks and laser pointers instead of 2kW flesh-vaporising, ship-sinking Frikkin' Laser Beams(tm), but it's a step in the right direction.
...it's a feature! Although, doesn't Microsoft have a patent on calling a virus a product?
Dammit I should have read the other posts first. Scratch that, I really should have PREDICTED the other posts and not made a joke that was bound to have been made once for every meter between here and Uranus.
Tee hee!