Both my proposals included never collecting this data. So we are talking about someone in the government or elsewhere managing to collect this data anyway. Well, it could be done in the paper form, and wouldn't even be that hard to do --- mark the voting forms, saving them and use fingerprints are 2 ways that comes to mind. With the proper review setup, the electronic way could be made impossible to break anonymity.
Voting in the UK is anonymous i.e. they know you voted but not who you voted for. You cannot make online voting both secure and anonymous.
That is quite possible. Silly but working way: Let someone send everyone a (private) key, and publish the public key. Then use that for certification by someone else. As long as those 2 are seperate, no problem. Or the login could be protected by a unique password, but when the vote cast is not registered under this key. And so on. This is no more unsecure than today, really.. someone could mark all the voting forms with invisible ink and keep track, for all you know. Public audits of the code, the servers and so on could keep the level of trust high. Really, this is not the hard problem.
Not that voting is secure in so far as they don't check you are who you say you are, but on the other hand the people at the polling stations will probably notice if someone tries to vote multiple times.
In this country, you have to turn in a slip you got mailed to you, and fit the name. You might be asked to show id, too.
I don't want online voting because I doubt it will be done securely leaving it open to abuse and election fraud, this doubt comes from a general lack of faith in government projects to do anything right. If they do manage to do it securely anyway, I believe that could only be done by removing the anonymity, which is fine as people would initially have a choice of how to vote. However, it would only be a short step away from making voting completely electronic by putting computers in the polling stations thus removing the choice on how to vote and losing anonymity in the process.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid here, but I certainly wouldn't put it past our current government to try something like this.
Not paranoid enough I say. The problem is: How do you stop people from a) voting for the spouse? b) force people to vote while watching what they vote for, even telling them what to vote? Those are the hard problems. The ones you describe are easy-peasy, just a matter of will, money and reviews.
KDE have a quite a few very good contributors who are of the more graphical persuation. I believe firefox have a few as well. But they are always in short supply even compared to coders, so if you know any, please direct them to the appropriate sites. (I'm sure it is the same with Gnome, but I agree with Linus on that one).
Personally, I wish Denmark would just join the Euro. Our money is so ugly now that my eyes wants to cry every time I see them. I think this is a conspiracy to make the Danish want to join the Euro. (It works on me, too!)
Yeah, because having pretty notes makes up for the fact that you have interest rates set over the whole eurozone by the somewhat inscrutable ECB, rather than set by (I guess) an independant central bank in Denmark.
Yep. Very independent. Sometimes, it takes hours before it mirrors every ECB decision;)
The trouble is that DK finance is just too interwoven with (especially) the Swedish, Norwegian, UK and German economy to just go our own way. Since Euro would nail 3 out of 4, I think it would be better.
At least, traveling abroad would be much easier:) (well, unless going out of EU, or going to any of the pockets'o'resistance within, but still).
I rather think that would just end up lowering the taxes 10%. Such cuts would have to be financed... and while I'd happily point out where those 10% could be saved, I don't think my suggestions would be applauded by the broad populace:)
However, directly allocating just the 10% might get more people interested in national finance, and kill some of the current loathing of politicians and apathy that is poisoning our democracies. On the other hand, it might not, of course.
I can never work out whether a strong pound is good or bad for Britain - whichever sector is hurt by the current situation always screams about it so loudly you'd think the world was coming to an end.
When I went to school, a strong currency was bad for the business living off exports and local sale, and good the business doing imports. Mind you, that was long ago:)
Personally, I wish Denmark would just join the Euro. Our money is so ugly now that my eyes wants to cry every time I see them. I think this is a conspiracy to make the Danish want to join the Euro. (It works on me, too!)
I have had thoughts along these lines. I was thinking... maybe 10% of your taxes could be directed where you wanted? Even if all those 10% went to something really stupid (like sports), the other parts would only be hurting, not destroyed. And by that hurting, the general populace would probably learn what it means not to have the police around, or the police would learn to be important to have around.
I agree going all the way in one step would be silly. Maybe in a hundred years;)
Privately, I hope this would cure the "we should use more money on this" when you can just tell people "well, do!".:)
Heh. My first advice to any Danish public school student is "never pay too much attention to the counselers. They are usually the failed teachers, and their advice might well be very wrong."
It all works. In fact, on any given day, I use applications that uses different toolkits (e.g, firefox, SWT, konqueror) and it never bothered me. Yeah, the open file dialog problem still exists, but there is hope in that. And someday, the look will be unified too, have patience. Neither of those are really important, though.
OTOH of course you regularly have Mac OS users whining because Firefox "doesn't look like a real Mac app
There will always be whiners. It's not as if Mac doesn't have a few toolkits itself.
I have an iBook happily running Firefox on OS 10.4 and never really understood what they were talking about, especially since to me, the Apple software doesn't really seem to have that much of a unified look anyway. Maybe it's because I've been running Linux/Unix for too long and don't even notice the mix of styles (back when I started twm was pretty much the norm and a mix of Athena/Motif was typical, Athena3D was considered "sexy" when it appeared).
I missed that era while studying (math). Sounds like exiting times, though:)
All this to say that some users can be very sensitive to issues that seem irrelevant or downright silly to the rest of us. Those Mac users won't use Firefox as a result of their perception of its "flaw", whatever its qualities may be.
The example is a bit extreme (Unix/Linux users tend to be more lax with their interface) but is something to keep in mind.
You can't win them all. Anyway, in my experience, many people who complains about look&feel really just prefers another application, but can't put their finger on why.
My point is, multiple toolkits is no reason not to port. In fact, windows have what? 3 different toolkits, besides those Java brings? Mac is somewhere around that too, as I recall. It's true, if you are coding a new application, it is easy to pick the "current" toolkit, which is not the case on Linux. (Well, it is really due to the licenses, but nevermind that). But once the application is ported, most people sensibly stick to that toolkit unless it gets truly unmaintained. I very much doubt QT or GTK is going to be unmaintained in the foreseeable future.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You can use any GUI layer you'd like, and it will work everywhere. Want to use QT? No problem. GTK? No problem. Athena? No problem. It all works. In fact, on any given day, I use applications that uses different toolkits (e.g, firefox, SWT, konqueror) and it never bothered me. Yeah, the open file dialog problem still exists, but there is hope in that. And someday, the look will be unified too, have patience. Neither of those are really important, though.
So if that was your reason for not porting, you didn't port for the wrong reasons.
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I think that's the first time I've seen Haskell and C++ lunked in an "ilk" together.
They are really not that dissimilar, though the syntax are:) (Meta)-programming with templates in C++ and doing Haskell is remarkedly similar, though the syntax is not --- if you don't believe me, have a look at the boost::lambda source. Anyway, above I just meant that they are both advanced languages, as in powerful and difficult to master.
As to the rest of your comment, I think passing closures around will come naturally to most newbies of taught. The hard part of functional languages, using the lambda calculus to it's fullest extent, is not support in Ruby anyway.
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I know (as in, have written a substantial amount in) perl, java, ruby, C++, C, and (god forbid) PL/I. I am acquianted with quite a number more (like Haskel, Lisp) And have no fear, ruby is a fine language to start with. Especially the irb shell is very nice for getting your bearings, and the functional support will be good for you if you ever turn to the hardcore languages, like Haskell, C++ and that ilk. On the other hand, if you prefer the more limited languages, like Java, you will still have a good idea about most concepts you'll find. The only thing you will not learn that are common is static overloading and type checking, which is easy enough to pick up.
Good luck. Learning to code and coding is very rewarding:)
In our company, "VPN" is sshd and httpsd (apache). Not exactly costly.
Making sure there is high speed access to the Internet or a T1 directly to the building,
In most civilized countries, most people have broadband privately. The company usually gets tax breaks to supply a basic connection if you wish.
you now have to worry about enforcing policies on a computer completly out of your site that could be used to compromise everything you spent the last ten year trying to stop from being on the Internet.
In my humble opinion, hiding behind firewalls just invites slovenliness. Defend in depth and all that. (Keep the firewall, it cuts down on noise, but don't depend on it for security).
Meijers does a lot of credit/debit transactions. Has quite a few employees spread across several states and then there is the problems of what needs fixed being part of what gives access to tele-commute.
Sure, but we are discussing IT people telecommuting. Presumably, IT people can handle ssh and basic security:)
It has to be very bright before the screen suffers (which isn't happening yet in Denmark, not sure about full Summer sun). The screen is easily the second best part of that tablet from my point of view.
Making a laptop connect only to access points that are meant to be open requires installation of a mind-reading patch that is pretty hard to come by. On the other hand, closing your access point to strangers is 2 minutes work with a web interface.
That is a rather central point. I have a router anyone is free to use. How do I advertice this? Well, there is a gateway site when they connect to the router (which tells them to have fun with surfing), but if they are not allowed to connect, how would they know?
I like to think of it as more healthly scepticism.:)
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Never ment to call ya a liar, just found it odd that an ISP didn't have their AUP online. When reporting abuse to an ISP, I like to check their AUP. Never came across one that didn't have it online. I formally apologize.:p
I formally accept your apology:o) I did give you a link last time, but as you might notice, it is actually in Danish.
Hmmm, reasonable ISPs is yet another reason to consider moving to the Netherlands.
I live in Denmark, which is not exactly Netherlands, but I'm sure it is a wonderful place to live regardsless:) Funnily, I'm going to visit a friend there this summer, so I suppose I will see for myself:)
Denmark is nice if you don't mind cold and rainy weather:o)
Such a mistrusting person you are:) As it happens, I signed up for this connection a few months ago, so I have it fresh in memory.
If it really interest you, here is the document. Heh, they even change a word to from sell to something that means "to drive on". Somebody should give them Danish lessons. Now, apologize for claiming I lied, or I will declare thy for the coward you are:p
But even if they really had such a provision (and if they added them, there is really little I could do), it doesn't really matter. ISPs are dime a dozen, switching is quick and rather painless. And if they make a fuzz, I will take my considerable network bill elsewhere:)
A friend of mine actually provide his entire building with wireless, and no fuss there yet either. But not everyone anymore, too many leaches.
I think you fear your fate too much. At least here, I'd be cleared eventually, and the mark removed. At worst, I'd have to move town. Quite likely, my name would be protected from publishing until the case had concluded (that is standard procedure in these cased). Of course, some wacko might still pin my picture to every available wall, but what's to prevent that from happening in any case?
Where do you live? Over here in Germany it's similar, but that doesn't stop BILD (Europe's biggest tabloid) from "accidentally" printing your name (full) and your face (unscrambled) and calling you a convict before the police are done collecting evidence. Three months later they have to print a reprimand from the German Press Council, which they usually do using a ten-point font.
Yes, the German Press Council is toothless and BILD makes sure we suffer from it.
This is Denmark, and while the Danish Press Council is toothless, breaking a name ban is a criminal offense.
I can't recall it ever happening, and from a googling it is rare and mostly accidential... most cases are about 2 independent papers publishing enough information to deduct the who the person is, or maybe one being a bit too speific (the accused, which is an Englishman training children at this club). I might be wrong, of couse, but then we can take heart that the newpaper is dying, and good riddance.
If they a newspaper in Denmark does, the editor resposible (every paper has a search) would face a fine.
But as I said, sharing my connection really has little bearing on this.
In severe cases of child pornography? I doubt it. Depends on where in the U.S. you live, and how much child porn we're talking about.
As I've said many times already, and as you can see otherwise, I do not live in the US, for which I am thankful. I lived there for 10 months, and frankly, that place stunk:) (Alright, so it was Minesota, and small towns stink everywhere. But I've never had the desire to visit US again).
Best case is probably detectives coming in with warrants, taking what they want, and likely you as well. Worst case is the guns..
I doubt they would draw on me. It causes them a lot of paperwork, you see. They might take the computers, if they had a warrant, but that costs them a) paperwork and b) money, so I don't think they'd do it for an IP address.
Remember to idiots an IP address is like a street address. They only understand that 64.233.167.99 is YOU and therefore YOU must have done it. If it happened over your router YOU MUST have known about it, and assisted. You fucking pervert!
Around here, there are special units handling these cases. Odds are, they even know what a MAC address is.
I like your idea, and I love your style, but if you were in the US, and someone was hosting a bunch of child porn on a comp connected to your router (they go after people who host it far more frequently than people who just download, although both happens..) a 'friendly chat' is very unlikely.
Hosting it would be a bit hard. It's just an ordinary wireless, they'd have to park the car around the corner or so. In a small suburb, that would cause a few comments:) Besides, it's behind a NAT firewall (2 actually), so that makes it a bit harder still.
Oh, and what he said about the media is true. If your job in any way interacts with kids. Or if you have any. You'll be fired, harassed, and have your kids taken away even if they haven't convicted you of anything. Good luck getting a job as anything but a janitor with the accusations out there.. Innocent until proven guilty is for the criminal court system, not the court of public opinion.
I think you fear your fate too much. At least here, I'd be cleared eventually, and the mark removed. At worst, I'd have to move town. Quite likely, my name would be protected from publishing until the case had concluded (that is standard procedure in these cased). Of course, some wacko might still pin my picture to every available wall, but what's to prevent that from happening in any case?
Acting as an ISP and being recognized as an ISP under the law are two completely different beasts. Not being recognized as a legitimate ISP under the law means he forgoes the safe harbor protections(he was relying on).
Eh. No I was not relying on the safe harbour protection (I didn't even know about them, US law is not my strong suit). I can see now that the ISP example was a bad one, so think of a cafe or hotel or company or whatever, if you wish.
ISPs have no special permits in this country. If they are big enough, they have some extra restrictions (about data retention and such). Anyone can be an ISP, if they like. You don't have to register.
But all that is beside the point. Is I've said, I sincerely believe that what I do is firmly within the law. I just gave the ISP as an example, the same could be said about any hotel, restaurant and company that have open wifi networks, which is many. Is there no cafes with wifi in the US? How do they cope?
Wow, you're mellow. I have a friend in prison because unsolicited child porn passed through his network. He's not feeling so mellow any more.
I will not live in fear. I've investigated the area pretty thouroughly, and I believe I am quite safe doing what I'm doing in Denmark, at the very least, and probably nearly everywhere in the EU.
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Both my proposals included never collecting this data. So we are talking about someone in the government or elsewhere managing to collect this data anyway. Well, it could be done in the paper form, and wouldn't even be that hard to do --- mark the voting forms, saving them and use fingerprints are 2 ways that comes to mind. With the proper review setup, the electronic way could be made impossible to break anonymity.
But as I said, that part is the easy part.
That is quite possible. Silly but working way: Let someone send everyone a (private) key, and publish the public key. Then use that for certification by someone else. As long as those 2 are seperate, no problem. Or the login could be protected by a unique password, but when the vote cast is not registered under this key. And so on. This is no more unsecure than today, really.. someone could mark all the voting forms with invisible ink and keep track, for all you know. Public audits of the code, the servers and so on could keep the level of trust high. Really, this is not the hard problem.
Not that voting is secure in so far as they don't check you are who you say you are, but on the other hand the people at the polling stations will probably notice if someone tries to vote multiple times.In this country, you have to turn in a slip you got mailed to you, and fit the name. You might be asked to show id, too.
I don't want online voting because I doubt it will be done securely leaving it open to abuse and election fraud, this doubt comes from a general lack of faith in government projects to do anything right. If they do manage to do it securely anyway, I believe that could only be done by removing the anonymity, which is fine as people would initially have a choice of how to vote. However, it would only be a short step away from making voting completely electronic by putting computers in the polling stations thus removing the choice on how to vote and losing anonymity in the process.Maybe I'm just being paranoid here, but I certainly wouldn't put it past our current government to try something like this.
Not paranoid enough I say. The problem is: How do you stop people from a) voting for the spouse? b) force people to vote while watching what they vote for, even telling them what to vote? Those are the hard problems. The ones you describe are easy-peasy, just a matter of will, money and reviews.
KDE have a quite a few very good contributors who are of the more graphical persuation. I believe firefox have a few as well. But they are always in short supply even compared to coders, so if you know any, please direct them to the appropriate sites. (I'm sure it is the same with Gnome, but I agree with Linus on that one).
Yeah, because having pretty notes makes up for the fact that you have interest rates set over the whole eurozone by the somewhat inscrutable ECB, rather than set by (I guess) an independant central bank in Denmark.
Yep. Very independent. Sometimes, it takes hours before it mirrors every ECB decision ;)
The trouble is that DK finance is just too interwoven with (especially) the Swedish, Norwegian, UK and German economy to just go our own way. Since Euro would nail 3 out of 4, I think it would be better.
At least, traveling abroad would be much easier :) (well, unless going out of EU, or going to any of the pockets'o'resistance within, but still).
I rather think that would just end up lowering the taxes 10%. Such cuts would have to be financed... and while I'd happily point out where those 10% could be saved, I don't think my suggestions would be applauded by the broad populace :)
However, directly allocating just the 10% might get more people interested in national finance, and kill some of the current loathing of politicians and apathy that is poisoning our democracies. On the other hand, it might not, of course.
When I went to school, a strong currency was bad for the business living off exports and local sale, and good the business doing imports. Mind you, that was long ago :)
Personally, I wish Denmark would just join the Euro. Our money is so ugly now that my eyes wants to cry every time I see them. I think this is a conspiracy to make the Danish want to join the Euro. (It works on me, too!)
I have had thoughts along these lines. I was thinking... maybe 10% of your taxes could be directed where you wanted? Even if all those 10% went to something really stupid (like sports), the other parts would only be hurting, not destroyed. And by that hurting, the general populace would probably learn what it means not to have the police around, or the police would learn to be important to have around.
I agree going all the way in one step would be silly. Maybe in a hundred years ;)
Privately, I hope this would cure the "we should use more money on this" when you can just tell people "well, do!". :)
Heh. My first advice to any Danish public school student is "never pay too much attention to the counselers. They are usually the failed teachers, and their advice might well be very wrong."
Seems that goes for abroad as well. :/
OTOH of course you regularly have Mac OS users whining because Firefox "doesn't look like a real Mac app
There will always be whiners. It's not as if Mac doesn't have a few toolkits itself.
I have an iBook happily running Firefox on OS 10.4 and never really understood what they were talking about, especially since to me, the Apple software doesn't really seem to have that much of a unified look anyway. Maybe it's because I've been running Linux/Unix for too long and don't even notice the mix of styles (back when I started twm was pretty much the norm and a mix of Athena/Motif was typical, Athena3D was considered "sexy" when it appeared).I missed that era while studying (math). Sounds like exiting times, though :)
All this to say that some users can be very sensitive to issues that seem irrelevant or downright silly to the rest of us. Those Mac users won't use Firefox as a result of their perception of its "flaw", whatever its qualities may be.The example is a bit extreme (Unix/Linux users tend to be more lax with their interface) but is something to keep in mind.
You can't win them all. Anyway, in my experience, many people who complains about look&feel really just prefers another application, but can't put their finger on why.
My point is, multiple toolkits is no reason not to port. In fact, windows have what? 3 different toolkits, besides those Java brings? Mac is somewhere around that too, as I recall. It's true, if you are coding a new application, it is easy to pick the "current" toolkit, which is not the case on Linux. (Well, it is really due to the licenses, but nevermind that). But once the application is ported, most people sensibly stick to that toolkit unless it gets truly unmaintained. I very much doubt QT or GTK is going to be unmaintained in the foreseeable future.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You can use any GUI layer you'd like, and it will work everywhere. Want to use QT? No problem. GTK? No problem. Athena? No problem. It all works. In fact, on any given day, I use applications that uses different toolkits (e.g, firefox, SWT, konqueror) and it never bothered me. Yeah, the open file dialog problem still exists, but there is hope in that. And someday, the look will be unified too, have patience. Neither of those are really important, though.
So if that was your reason for not porting, you didn't port for the wrong reasons.
They are really not that dissimilar, though the syntax are :) (Meta)-programming with templates in C++ and doing Haskell is remarkedly similar, though the syntax is not --- if you don't believe me, have a look at the boost::lambda source. Anyway, above I just meant that they are both advanced languages, as in powerful and difficult to master.
As to the rest of your comment, I think passing closures around will come naturally to most newbies of taught. The hard part of functional languages, using the lambda calculus to it's fullest extent, is not support in Ruby anyway.
I know (as in, have written a substantial amount in) perl, java, ruby, C++, C, and (god forbid) PL/I. I am acquianted with quite a number more (like Haskel, Lisp) And have no fear, ruby is a fine language to start with. Especially the irb shell is very nice for getting your bearings, and the functional support will be good for you if you ever turn to the hardcore languages, like Haskell, C++ and that ilk. On the other hand, if you prefer the more limited languages, like Java, you will still have a good idea about most concepts you'll find. The only thing you will not learn that are common is static overloading and type checking, which is easy enough to pick up.
Good luck. Learning to code and coding is very rewarding :)
I'd suggest the hero having a big bag of diamonds, for the purchase of a real sword :o)
On the other hand, I'd just suggest he leaves in the sword, and call it diamantite or something. Completely like diamond, except flexible ;)
In our company, "VPN" is sshd and httpsd (apache). Not exactly costly.
Making sure there is high speed access to the Internet or a T1 directly to the building,In most civilized countries, most people have broadband privately. The company usually gets tax breaks to supply a basic connection if you wish.
you now have to worry about enforcing policies on a computer completly out of your site that could be used to compromise everything you spent the last ten year trying to stop from being on the Internet.In my humble opinion, hiding behind firewalls just invites slovenliness. Defend in depth and all that. (Keep the firewall, it cuts down on noise, but don't depend on it for security).
Meijers does a lot of credit/debit transactions. Has quite a few employees spread across several states and then there is the problems of what needs fixed being part of what gives access to tele-commute.Sure, but we are discussing IT people telecommuting. Presumably, IT people can handle ssh and basic security :)
No idea. It is my middle+last name :) Kook? The predicant?
It has to be very bright before the screen suffers (which isn't happening yet in Denmark, not sure about full Summer sun). The screen is easily the second best part of that tablet from my point of view.
That is a rather central point. I have a router anyone is free to use. How do I advertice this? Well, there is a gateway site when they connect to the router (which tells them to have fun with surfing), but if they are not allowed to connect, how would they know?
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Never ment to call ya a liar, just found it odd that an ISP didn't have their AUP online. When reporting abuse to an ISP, I like to check their AUP. Never came across one that didn't have it online. I formally apologize.I formally accept your apology :o) I did give you a link last time, but as you might notice, it is actually in Danish.
Hmmm, reasonable ISPs is yet another reason to consider moving to the Netherlands.I live in Denmark, which is not exactly Netherlands, but I'm sure it is a wonderful place to live regardsless :) Funnily, I'm going to visit a friend there this summer, so I suppose I will see for myself :)
Denmark is nice if you don't mind cold and rainy weather :o)
Such a mistrusting person you are :) As it happens, I signed up for this connection a few months ago, so I have it fresh in memory.
If it really interest you, here is the document. Heh, they even change a word to from sell to something that means "to drive on". Somebody should give them Danish lessons. Now, apologize for claiming I lied, or I will declare thy for the coward you are :p
But even if they really had such a provision (and if they added them, there is really little I could do), it doesn't really matter. ISPs are dime a dozen, switching is quick and rather painless. And if they make a fuzz, I will take my considerable network bill elsewhere :)
A friend of mine actually provide his entire building with wireless, and no fuss there yet either. But not everyone anymore, too many leaches.
Where do you live? Over here in Germany it's similar, but that doesn't stop BILD (Europe's biggest tabloid) from "accidentally" printing your name (full) and your face (unscrambled) and calling you a convict before the police are done collecting evidence. Three months later they have to print a reprimand from the German Press Council, which they usually do using a ten-point font.
Yes, the German Press Council is toothless and BILD makes sure we suffer from it.
This is Denmark, and while the Danish Press Council is toothless, breaking a name ban is a criminal offense.
I can't recall it ever happening, and from a googling it is rare and mostly accidential... most cases are about 2 independent papers publishing enough information to deduct the who the person is, or maybe one being a bit too speific (the accused, which is an Englishman training children at this club). I might be wrong, of couse, but then we can take heart that the newpaper is dying, and good riddance.
If they a newspaper in Denmark does, the editor resposible (every paper has a search) would face a fine.
But as I said, sharing my connection really has little bearing on this.
As I've said many times already, and as you can see otherwise, I do not live in the US, for which I am thankful. I lived there for 10 months, and frankly, that place stunk :) (Alright, so it was Minesota, and small towns stink everywhere. But I've never had the desire to visit US again).
Best case is probably detectives coming in with warrants, taking what they want, and likely you as well. Worst case is the guns..I doubt they would draw on me. It causes them a lot of paperwork, you see. They might take the computers, if they had a warrant, but that costs them a) paperwork and b) money, so I don't think they'd do it for an IP address.
Remember to idiots an IP address is like a street address. They only understand that 64.233.167.99 is YOU and therefore YOU must have done it. If it happened over your router YOU MUST have known about it, and assisted. You fucking pervert!Around here, there are special units handling these cases. Odds are, they even know what a MAC address is.
I like your idea, and I love your style, but if you were in the US, and someone was hosting a bunch of child porn on a comp connected to your router (they go after people who host it far more frequently than people who just download, although both happens..) a 'friendly chat' is very unlikely.Hosting it would be a bit hard. It's just an ordinary wireless, they'd have to park the car around the corner or so. In a small suburb, that would cause a few comments :) Besides, it's behind a NAT firewall (2 actually), so that makes it a bit harder still.
Oh, and what he said about the media is true. If your job in any way interacts with kids. Or if you have any. You'll be fired, harassed, and have your kids taken away even if they haven't convicted you of anything. Good luck getting a job as anything but a janitor with the accusations out there.. Innocent until proven guilty is for the criminal court system, not the court of public opinion.I think you fear your fate too much. At least here, I'd be cleared eventually, and the mark removed. At worst, I'd have to move town. Quite likely, my name would be protected from publishing until the case had concluded (that is standard procedure in these cased). Of course, some wacko might still pin my picture to every available wall, but what's to prevent that from happening in any case?
Not sure if it is online... but I know it is in Danish :p
Eh. No I was not relying on the safe harbour protection (I didn't even know about them, US law is not my strong suit). I can see now that the ISP example was a bad one, so think of a cafe or hotel or company or whatever, if you wish.
ISPs have no special permits in this country. If they are big enough, they have some extra restrictions (about data retention and such). Anyone can be an ISP, if they like. You don't have to register.
But all that is beside the point. Is I've said, I sincerely believe that what I do is firmly within the law. I just gave the ISP as an example, the same could be said about any hotel, restaurant and company that have open wifi networks, which is many. Is there no cafes with wifi in the US? How do they cope?
I will not live in fear. I've investigated the area pretty thouroughly, and I believe I am quite safe doing what I'm doing in Denmark, at the very least, and probably nearly everywhere in the EU.