perhaps you could even clone yourself, and have a little pet baby you to waddle around in diapers and make cute cooing noises. when the novelty wears off and they become a hassle, just leave them by the side of the road
And deprive myself of a fresh source of compatible bone marrow & organs? Are you crazy?
I think he means that the problem with Google Wave is that it is too simple and web-like, not that it is too complex.
No, I think he really does mean that it's too complex.
Working for some large enterprise orgs, I've noticed that there's this belief that computer applications should provide workflow / processes / systems that the org then follows, rather than establishing said processes etc and finding software that meets that need. There's an extreme lack of systemic thinking in large orgs, with this belief that you can plug in software to replace that need. Microsoft love providing this kind of solution, because it comes at a huge cost. The integration in my experience is never as smooth or seamless as promised, simply because it's enforcing an approach rather than serving one.
Google seems to be more in line with providing you with the tools to supplement your own internal processes. From this perspective, and this is the complexity I feel Ozzie was referring to, the org now has a tool to find a solution which involves effort on their behalf, which makes Microsofts illusory offer of a all-in-one-no-brainer solution all that more alluring to the PHBs.
Also: Ray Ozzie is an asshat who hasn't ever gotten over his glory days, which weren't that glorious to begin with.
(Sorry for the lack of spacing but for some reason/. isn't acknowledging p or br tags for me)
As opposed to what... Marxism? Yeah, that sure worked out.
Marxism was outlined as being a reaction to capitalism. I'm not aware of any Marxist experiment in which the country actually existed in a capitalist state prior to adoption of the new political structure.
If static identity becomes an issue to us culturally, I can guarantee that we'll move to more fluid forms before long. That there are historical precedents just makes it more inevitable.
Dopamine is the most poorly understood of the more regularly cited neurological excuses for human behaviour, which is unfortunate as its roles in the functioning of the brain appear to be remarkably nuanced. It almost seems to have become conjoined in the minds of most armchair psychologists with the experiments concerning rats with electrically wired pleasure centres, that this one neurotransmitter alone is somehow a little orgasm switch and without societal intervention we'd all just dopamaniacly diddle ourselves to death. (Which isn't the title of Neil Postman's next book, incidentally.)
This time it is MS providing the standard web search technology and is the OPEN search engine when it comes to interfacing with all the OPEN standards.
So the current leader in search should defer to decisions made by a company that has failed across numerous attempts to significantly penetrate that market?
You also have to pick-and-choose what you want to get compiled with Psyco - the extra overhead isn't always worth it.
This is something that concerns me about the Unladen Swallow approach. The project site talks openly about stealing extensively from Psyco, so wouldn't the same concerns of having to selectively choose when & where to use it also apply to Swallow? Unless they plan on exposing some kind of control over the process...
Child slavery is a HUGE problem. Maybe the BBC should demonstrate how easily they can establish a slavery ring next. Because clearly demonstrating the problem is far more important than legal & ethical behaviour...
Journalists have a much higher degree of discretion when following legitimate investigations.
To what extent? Could a journalist kill the Queen to demonstrate a flaw in her security? Set up a child slavery ring to show how viable it is? At what point does this excuse actually stop being valid?
Forget being a corrupt law enforcement official, clearly journalism is the way to go!
Dude, go read some Nietzsche. If you had, you'd have been more inclined to call me out for my use of that quote, as Nietzsche's idea of the Ubermensch has more in common with the "win at all costs" philosophy that I was responding against.
As it is, 'The Watchmen' promotes the complete and utter opposite of that idea. So maybe you might want to rewatch/reread it, and actually think.
I worked for a government department where the head of IT Security told me that flat telnet was "more secure" than SSH.
It took me a while to realise that when he said something was "secure" he really meant "I don't understand the alternatives". This seems to be a similar situation.
These people are no longer playing fair, WHY SHOULD WE?
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster."
Or how about: "Two wrongs don't make a right."
Because how you win is as important, if not more so, than winning itself. I agree that there are times that we need to fight but we also need to be sure we don't lose ourselves in the battle.
i'm not sure why people think ubuntu is any more bloated than any other mainstream linux distro.
Canonical are basically going to get criticised no matter which approach they take: if they don't go for the kitchen-sink approach then Ubuntu isn't casual user friendly and shame on them for making people rely on package management; when it does it's considered too bloated and crufty.
It's a no-win situation, someone's always going to gripe.
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perhaps you could even clone yourself, and have a little pet baby you to waddle around in diapers and make cute cooing noises. when the novelty wears off and they become a hassle, just leave them by the side of the road
And deprive myself of a fresh source of compatible bone marrow & organs? Are you crazy?
You've got to face the music, to Joe six-pack you're not a girl, you're a post-op transsexual.
Or to put it in a way /.ers will understand: you're not a Mac, you're OSX running on hackintosh hardware.
I think he means that the problem with Google Wave is that it is too simple and web-like, not that it is too complex.
No, I think he really does mean that it's too complex.
Working for some large enterprise orgs, I've noticed that there's this belief that computer applications should provide workflow / processes / systems that the org then follows, rather than establishing said processes etc and finding software that meets that need. There's an extreme lack of systemic thinking in large orgs, with this belief that you can plug in software to replace that need. Microsoft love providing this kind of solution, because it comes at a huge cost. The integration in my experience is never as smooth or seamless as promised, simply because it's enforcing an approach rather than serving one.
Google seems to be more in line with providing you with the tools to supplement your own internal processes. From this perspective, and this is the complexity I feel Ozzie was referring to, the org now has a tool to find a solution which involves effort on their behalf, which makes Microsofts illusory offer of a all-in-one-no-brainer solution all that more alluring to the PHBs.
Also: Ray Ozzie is an asshat who hasn't ever gotten over his glory days, which weren't that glorious to begin with.
(Sorry for the lack of spacing but for some reason /. isn't acknowledging p or br tags for me)
As opposed to what... Marxism? Yeah, that sure worked out.
Marxism was outlined as being a reaction to capitalism. I'm not aware of any Marxist experiment in which the country actually existed in a capitalist state prior to adoption of the new political structure.
Would that I had points to mod this insightful.
If static identity becomes an issue to us culturally, I can guarantee that we'll move to more fluid forms before long. That there are historical precedents just makes it more inevitable.
...where failing US business models comes to die.
God I wish this country had an identity of its own.
And a spine.
http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeline/
The Timeline sample project covers the Kennedy assassination, incidentally.
Dopamine is the most poorly understood of the more regularly cited neurological excuses for human behaviour, which is unfortunate as its roles in the functioning of the brain appear to be remarkably nuanced. It almost seems to have become conjoined in the minds of most armchair psychologists with the experiments concerning rats with electrically wired pleasure centres, that this one neurotransmitter alone is somehow a little orgasm switch and without societal intervention we'd all just dopamaniacly diddle ourselves to death. (Which isn't the title of Neil Postman's next book, incidentally.)
This time it is MS providing the standard web search technology and is the OPEN search engine when it comes to interfacing with all the OPEN standards.
So the current leader in search should defer to decisions made by a company that has failed across numerous attempts to significantly penetrate that market?
I believe you mean Dale Gribble.
George Lucas has done OK, who did he rip off?
Akira Kurosawa.
Easiest solution is to buy each employee a pocket radio.
Unfortunately, that probably wouldn't be sufficient to act as a noise mask for the horses.
Perhaps if she bought a pocket radio for each horse? :)
I believe EVE uses Stackless Python. I'm not sure how well these improvements would translate across.
You also have to pick-and-choose what you want to get compiled with Psyco - the extra overhead isn't always worth it.
This is something that concerns me about the Unladen Swallow approach. The project site talks openly about stealing extensively from Psyco, so wouldn't the same concerns of having to selectively choose when & where to use it also apply to Swallow? Unless they plan on exposing some kind of control over the process...
For the love of God, learn about your own civic structure. Australia is independent.
So independent that 35 years ago the Queen had our elected Prime Minister removed from office.
Ah, so it's only what is "obvious" to you, I gather?
Well argued...that sound effect for a non-existent killfile sure put me in my place.
Child slavery is a HUGE problem. Maybe the BBC should demonstrate how easily they can establish a slavery ring next. Because clearly demonstrating the problem is far more important than legal & ethical behaviour...
Journalists have a much higher degree of discretion when following legitimate investigations.
To what extent? Could a journalist kill the Queen to demonstrate a flaw in her security? Set up a child slavery ring to show how viable it is? At what point does this excuse actually stop being valid?
Forget being a corrupt law enforcement official, clearly journalism is the way to go!
The warriors will accept mere victory.
You need to spend some time doing something other than playing 'Halo'.
I really dislike generalities.
Point taken. You should have expressed it that way initially :)
Dude, go read some Nietzsche. If you had, you'd have been more inclined to call me out for my use of that quote, as Nietzsche's idea of the Ubermensch has more in common with the "win at all costs" philosophy that I was responding against.
As it is, 'The Watchmen' promotes the complete and utter opposite of that idea. So maybe you might want to rewatch/reread it, and actually think.
I worked for a government department where the head of IT Security told me that flat telnet was "more secure" than SSH.
It took me a while to realise that when he said something was "secure" he really meant "I don't understand the alternatives". This seems to be a similar situation.
These people are no longer playing fair, WHY SHOULD WE?
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster."
Or how about: "Two wrongs don't make a right."
Because how you win is as important, if not more so, than winning itself. I agree that there are times that we need to fight but we also need to be sure we don't lose ourselves in the battle.
Doesn't Windows help rely on those libs though? How does it handle CHM files without a HTML renderer?
i'm not sure why people think ubuntu is any more bloated than any other mainstream linux distro.
Canonical are basically going to get criticised no matter which approach they take: if they don't go for the kitchen-sink approach then Ubuntu isn't casual user friendly and shame on them for making people rely on package management; when it does it's considered too bloated and crufty.
It's a no-win situation, someone's always going to gripe.