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Doctors Baffled, Intrigued By Girl Who Doesn't Age
phyrebyrd writes "Brooke Greenberg is the size of an infant, with the mental capacity of a toddler. She turned 16 in January. Brooke hasn't aged in the conventional sense. Dr. Richard Walker of the University of South Florida College of Medicine, in Tampa, says Brooke's body is not developing as a coordinated unit, but as independent parts that are out of sync. She has never been diagnosed with any known genetic syndrome or chromosomal abnormality that would help explain why. Brooke's hair and her nails are the only two things that grow, Howard said. 'She has pajamas and outfits that are 10 or 12 years old,' he said."
It just struck me reading that... it must really, REALLY suck being the first person to ever have a particular disease.
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She must've drank from it by mistake. This is why Moms should be attentive of their children!
Seriously, age is a really interesting field to me, especially cognitive age. I really like how there are stages in raising a child that, if followed honestly, usually lead to children becoming very capable, healthy adults. What's even more interesting is what happens to a child should the development of any of those stages be tampered with.
This has all the markings of a fable where someone wishes to never get old. It is a very curious case indeed though. I wonder what the cause of diminished mental capacity might be?
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"The Y chromosome is genetic. The odds are very good that if you are male then your father was too." -Internet Commenter
And it appears that, at 16, she still has the brains and skill set of an infant ... this is going to sound cruel, but without any more details, it sounds like a good argument for post-birth abortion. I mean, what's the point? At least "The Strange Case of Benjamin Button" had SOME growth of character.
Just very slowly. In the pictures it looks like features are developing but it's on a very, very slow pace. Maybe she might live to be 400 or 800 if her bone structure will remain supportive over time and her cells don't stop dividing like they do with 'normal' aging. I think the parents might already have tried it but she could probably learn to speak or at least communicate over the years - the brain of a toddler is very open to it (unless her brain plasticity has been aging).
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Wow...that is absolutely amazing...and she is so fortunate to have a family that sees the situation so positively...and who supports related research by the scientific community to see if there is a potential broader benefit here. Frankly, it must be tough for them at times, but I am sure that my wife would *love* it if our little girl never grew up. Thank goodness her sisters are supportive, because they will most likely need to take care of her in the future after her parents advance in age. Great stuff.
Here's the first page: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/Story?id=7880954&page=1
Reaching adulthood and then preserving the body of a 20-year-old forever is one thing. This is quite something else.
It is not so much failure to age, as failure to grow/mature. It remains to be seen whether her abnormality will grant longer life span in practice.
Her body is not developing as a co-ordinated unit because her environment (humanity) isn't either. These kind of deviations within nature will continue to become more apparent as humans evolve. As long as we continue to grow egoistically, separated from one another, we will be as cancer cells rather than living tissue - working for the benefit of ourselves rather than each other. We are all complicit in her abnormality.
"In the absence of the ability to establish the attribute of truth they tried to establish the noble attributes."
I doubt she'd be able to give consent. They wouldn't be a child molester, just a run-of-the-mill rapist.
"The Y chromosome is genetic. The odds are very good that if you are male then your father was too." -Internet Commenter
T-2 year 'til legal child pornography.
"She has pajamas and outfits that are 10 or 12 years old,"
This is not normal! I can't keep my kids to make an outfit last for 10 or 12 months... sometimes the lifespan if clothing (especially blue jeans) can be measured in weeks.
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Aging is the result of accumulated bio-chemical damage and degeneration. While failure to grow does have some beneficial effect from on biological aging--e.g. both calorie restriction and growth-hormone deficiency appear to enhance lifespan, at least in mice--it is quite likely that this girl's condition was simply misreported.
life never seems to run out of completely new ways to mindfuck us, does it?
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Years ago I read about this girl who was 19 and had never entered puberty (she had developed normally otherwise). Turns out there was a tumor blocking her pituitary gland. I'm sure they've done hundreds of tests so it can't be something like that but I was just reminded of that story.
Reviewing just the first hour of video games.
Apparently, she is not the only one.
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But here in Brazil, some people intent to make money out of the case... Dirty Politics.
You kid, but this extreme case highlights the stupidity of using 'age' to determine someone's ability to make life-changing decisions.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
Insightful?? I know its a joke... but insightful?
Perhaps I am the only one bothered by how abcnews.com has become a tabloid; here is the MSNBC story for the same, nicely packaged into a single page without news on people living in trees.
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So in 2 years does that mean she is legal? /I keed I keed.
I suppose. Soon she'll be targeted by freaks looking to make legal kiddy pron.
Sick bastards.
High school girls stay the same age as well. Giggity giggity.
I'd rather you rationally disagree than irrationally agree.
not that i know a damn thing about endocrinology, but i would speculate that this failed therapy suggest that, as we all have receptors for various hormones, her body has no such receptors for HGH. if someone is born genetically male, but has no male secondary characteristics, then either:
1. his body produces no testosterone,
2. his body produces testosterone, but his body doesn't react to it
i would say that this girl, uh, young woman, has an incredibly rare, unique mutation: insensitivity to human growth hormone. it would explain all of her symptoms
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
You bring up a good point. If someone photos her in the tub, is it child pornography?
Granted she's likely going to be declared incompetent and be in someone's custody for the foreseeable future, but it's an odd thing to consider. Most of the laws these days state they just have to look like a minor, and in this case she doesn't even qualify as a teenager. I think this is one of those instances that prove trying to put an age number for rights is a bad idea. Some people mature at different rates, emotionally and physically. Should a 30 year old downs syndrome patient who doesn't know any better than a child really come out of the umbrella of protection minors have? Should a 16 year old who grew up on the streets after her parents died and has been forced to mature and fend for herself not be allowed to get a tatoo, open a bank account (assuming she had a penny or two), etc. This case is really an extreme illustration of the varying nature of people. I don't believe we should all be handed licenses at 16, sure there's a test, but maturity and the ability to judge proper behavior in a vehicle has no bearing on one's ability to physically control the car. This young girl could in theory apply for a license- but obviously is in no capacity to do so.
Just musing/just sayin' is all....
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Some of her body part , like bone structure, are 10 years old. Thus it sounds doubtful she will reach the multi-centenarian age you cited. They tried to communicate with her , tried to teach her speaking but it failed. Anyway there is a rearrangement of the pharynx/larynx at the venerable age of 1/2 years old which is needed to be able to physically speak. Without it you can't. Maybe a doctor/biologist can chime in.
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Yes, but Jackson was into cute boys. She wouldn't have qualified.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
now all we need is the press release about light sabers
She has pajamas and outfits that are 10 or 12 years old,' he said.
That's nothing, I work in an office with some programmers who haven't changed their outfits in over twenty years.
So all this has been under wraps for 16 years?!?
I call all this bull and raise them a handful of shit.
It's a shame she didn't stop aging -at- sixteen. Then I'd be pretty intrigued too.
If there is no aging decline.
So clearly an HGH deficiency isn't the (only) issue, it's that her HGH receptors don't respond to the hormone. But, to the best of my knowledge, that wouldn't account for a lack of mental development. This sounds like a combination of many factors coming together.
I'll have to take a look to see if there's anything written from a medical perspective (e.g., a journal paper) on this case. It could be interesting to hear what the doctors have to say, as opposed to what ABC News reports the poor mother has to say (projecting her wishes onto her daughter: thinking she's a rebellious teenager when really she's just an infant).
You are absolutely right, but I have yet to see a viable alternative.
if you rtfa, it says she has a mind of a 16 year old, just she cannot communicate like a grown up.
As a possible fountain of youth.
I really like how there are stages in raising a child that, if followed honestly, usually lead to children becoming very capable, healthy adults. What's even more interesting is what happens to a child should the development of any of those stages be tampered with.
It's interesting, and everyone loves Erickson's stages (and even Freud's). Too bad there's little to no empirical evidence. But this is the internet, who needs the scientific method?
I watched the little blurb and noticed the "younger" sister. Can you imagine the pressure she must be under as a teenager seeing her "older" sister get all the attention and focus?
Power to her!
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Wow, this article is not what I expected in the slightest. Here I was thinking it was some hot 21-year-old girl who was gonna look 21 the rest of her life, and I was gonna show up here and say "Some guy is gonna be a super lucky husband!" But, uh...er... anyway, moving right along.
Jeez... Mod parent Troll and/or Off Topic
There is this girl/woman in Brazil, Maria Aldenete, who has similar syntoms. I couldn't find any info in English on her... She's 30 years old or so.
Has anyone considered that she might just be moving very close to the speed of light?
Looking through the slideshow, she does appear to be ageing in some ways even if she hasn't changed much physically. If she survived into old age I imagine she still would have wrinkly skin and white hair etc.
From the information available it looks like rather than not ageing, she hasn't grown up.
Oh good, another "insightful" legal opinion, brought to you by Slashdot.
You cannot use the example of a child with diminished mental capacity - who is thus incapable of giving legal consent, no matter what her age is - to attack the laws that prevent you from having sex with all the 14 year olds in your neighborhood who "totally look old enough to be 18!"
So, Justice Holmes, what criteria should we use to determine someone's ability to make these decisions instead? Surely you have an alternative system we could consider?
As a father of two, the first thing that struck me was that in all likelihood somebody has had to change her diaper for that past 16 years. That could go on indefinitely, but even worse, imagine spending another 15 years to potty train her. Not knowing if it's even possible. Talk about a Sisyphean task.
You kid, but this extreme case highlights the stupidity of using 'age' to determine someone's ability to make life-changing decisions.
In five more years she'll be old enough to drink!
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I have an aunt who was in her third trimester when she was in a car accident, and Dolly was born soon after with no apparent damage... except she never grew up. Dolly passed away a few years ago, at the age of 33, and weighed about 80 pounds - she did grow "up", but much slower than normal - she was 20 before she weighed 40 pounds, and never spoke a single intelligible word. She never matured mentally beyond around 6 months, and was always in a crib at all the family gatherings. Thankfully, I never had to change her diaper.
There are some differences, as Dolly did seem to physically mature, just very slowly - but the doctors didn't seem to think it was that phenomenal, just brain damage from the accident. She did have the same odd development that Megan's eyes have - the wandering eye, so to speak. (As opposed to my wandering eye, which is entirely a different sort of affliction.) :)
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That's okay, they'll just 'shop her head to an adult woman's body and fantasize about it.
Why isn't there an "insensitive" mod point?
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
I'm going to have to mark this bug as:
FAILURE TO REPRODUCE
I'm citing a lack of girlfriend as the cause.
Her lack of mental development could be directly related to her lack of physical development, in that her brain is not physically developing to be able to learn and process information like everyone else's does. I'm by no means a doctor but I thought I'd throw that out there as a reasonable hypothesis.
"All great wisdom is contained in .signature files"
Uh, no it doesn't.
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If YOU rtfa, it says nothing of the sort.
And all i can think is what a great House MD episode would that be!
Also that "Greenberg syndrome" sounds nice.
But... the future refused to change.
I think what you're looking for is "flamebait"
The 'child' is a primordial dwarf. Her symptoms fit to the last detail.
This story has done time on Digg and Fark already, probably several other sites as well, and it seems everywhere large numbers of non-doctors can use Google to compare her symptoms to a RARE but known medical condition. The poor kid's doctors either don't know how to research or are otherwise incompetent.
Michael Jackson didn't get a chance to invite her to Neverland.
Do you realise that this girl will be 18 in two years?
If *you*'d rtfa, you'd find out that her brain has the capacity of a toddler. So, no 16 year old mind.
A good education is a bit like a STD - it makes you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and gives you a desire to spread it.
perhaps a large conglomerate could claim intellectual property on this mutation, and mass produce cute little baby pets that never grow up and become surly teenagers. perhaps you could even clone yourself, and have a little pet baby you to waddle around in diapers and make cute cooing noises. when the novelty wears off and they become a hassle, just leave them by the side of the road, like people always do with golden retriever puppies at the end of the summer and such*
*this post brought to you in an attempt to offend every shred of ethics you have
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
You make it sound like drm.
DRM is a feature, not a bug. Without it it would be difficult for content industries as a whole to adapt to changing environment.
So in two years she'll be 18...But still look like shes 3. Uh oh, better watch out for pedo bear.
In a couple of years, when she turns 18, would nudes of her be child porn? Eh?
(listens for the sounds of heads exploding)
-Styopa
> So she's Wolverine?
But maybe with her "normal" growth is considered damage and thus "fixed".
Just like the brain tumour that appeared and vanished, any parts that try to go "next stage" get repaired.
Call McCoy, or we all become grups.
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Damn, she's going to be at a tremendous disadvantage come the Gathering.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
As seen in Fig. 6, the subject's PBMC telomere length at 13 years of age was significantly shorter than that of an age-matched female control as well as male and female controls of younger ages. While variability in average telomere length exists between individuals, the low subject values are probably not due to errors in measurement since the coefficients of variation were sufficiently low to assume adequate precision. Although the subject's telomeres were nearly half the length of a healthy, age-matched female control, this comparison in and of itself does not prove that her cellular age is advanced beyond that of the normal girl. However, an important observation relevant to this difference is that there occurs a precipitous loss of telomere length during early life after which a plateau period is reached (Frenck et al., 1998). As a result, telomere length in newborns is longer on average than that in adolescents so that comparison of the subject's telomeres with newborn controls would be expected to provide more reliable estimate of her cellular age range. For example, significant shortening would be expected if her cellular age proceeded as usual despite her severe developmental delay whereas longer telomeres would suggest that her cellular aging was delayed consistent with that of her somatic development. However, this was not the case. Subject's telomeres were considerably shorter than those of both infant controls as well as the age-matched control suggesting that her cellular age was advanced beyond infancy. Since the rate of telomeric shortening is substantially greater in infants than in adults (Zeichner et al., 1999), subject's prolonged infancy may have caused her to have shorter telomeres than age-matched controls. In addition, accelerated telomeric shortening has been reported in developmentally abnormal conditions including progeroid syndromes (Kruk et al., 1995). These circumstances may have resulted in her cellular age being appropriate for or perhaps even greater than her chronological age. Consistent with other reports showing a lack of telomerase (telomere terminal transferase) expression in human dermal fibroblasts from children (Oâ(TM)Donnell et al., 2008), subject's fibroblasts were telomerase negative. This fact suggests that possible enhancement of telomeric erosion did not stimulate compensatory increases in enzyme activity.
Pulled from: Richard F. Walker, Lawrence C. Pakula, Maxine J. Sutcliffe, Patricia A. Kruk, Jesper Graakjaer, Jerry W. Shay, A case study of 'disorganized development' and its possible relevance to genetic determinants of aging, Mechanisms of Ageing and Development, Volume 130, Issue 5, May 2009, Pages 350-356, ISSN 0047-6374, DOI: 10.1016/j.mad.2009.02.003.
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I don't really know the specifics though. I knew a guy who was 20, but looked like a 12-year old. He had had cancer at a young age, and (as he explained) he hadn't really grown since. He was also a pathological liar, and quite immature as well, so I'm not certain how much of his story was truth.
Were I reading this as a fantasy or sci-fi book, I'd say her power sounds more like healing than anti-aging.
Even when they gave her growth hormones she just stayed the same, and she grew a brain tumor then healed it. This kind of thing (Developing a serious problem then healing it on her own) has happened throughout her young life.
Her body just seems to resist any change at all.
When I Read the title i thought it was about ADA.
...he's looking for a little recognition. Seriously, has no one ever read, watched, or heard of Der Blechtrommel (The Tin Drum)?
It's about a little boy who decides not to grow up and his body doesn't age. IT WON THE FREAKING NOBEL PRIZE FOR LITERATURE!!!
Geez, you people.
So if she were to get into a relationship with someone her own age, or a few years older...they would actually look like pedophiles but not really BE a pedophile. So if we go further, someone who would intentionally go out with someone like this would be branded a pedophile off the bat, as she should never be allowed to know real love/lust until she is at least THIS tall to ride on the ride???
They grow up so...
Oh. Nevermind.
It just struck me reading that... it must really, REALLY suck being the first person to ever have a particular disease.
What if we have it backwards?
What if she is the first person not to have the disease we all have and that she is aging but really really slow?
So in 100 years she will have the body of an 18 year old?!
I mean if you think about it, old age is a disease.
Man, that is deep. I mean really deep.
In a sea full of people asking the question about the small glass being half full or half empty, you're the one running around with a pitcher.
I'll forgo for now the question of "should we" and jump into possibility:
Are there any known methods for speeding or artificially stimulating the production of myelin? If, for example, she reaches the physical age of 16, even if she's chronologically 40, I'd image that the extended lifespan with normal mental capabilities would be somewhat impressive (assuming slow physical "ageing" means longer chronological lifestyle).
I for one welcome our new overlord Brooke
My understanding of these laws is that the wasn't a burden to prove the age of the individual in question, which would save the police trying to track down children on the basis of photos alone.
That being said, I believe there is still some basis for the provable age of a person on the part of the defence. Say if a 21-yr-old had pictures of his girlfriend, who could possibly be under-age, but was provable as 18+ at the time of the photograph. Still, it could probably be a pretty dicey scenario with certain cases, for example, many Asian females are perceived by others to be younger than their physical age. I suppose that's where reasonable doubt comes in.
However, whatever the case of consent may be, involvement with somebody who is physically a toddler, even if she had a mental capacity akin to her chronological age, would be pretty dicey. Perhaps if she were in physically at least an age of pubescence and chronologically/mentally an adult it might be even more dicey, as at that time she would not only have the mental capacity to consent, but also the mental/physical maturity, and the physical "drive" to do so. Perhaps it's a good think that her mental capacity seems somewhat closely tied to her age, so that the reasoning falls among other people with mental capacities below their age.
i mean superficially, the answer is definitely no. but perhaps at some other level of early development it does
or, alternately, maybe her mutation is in some previously unknown, deeper biological pathway. a deep growth superswitch pathway that controls HGH reception/release AND whatever governs brain development
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intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Did Mom drink lots of red wine while pregnant?
So, if I have sex with her when she turns 18, does that make me a pedophile?
If I take a photograph of her face and digitally place it onto a 30 yr old nude pinup photo, will I be charged under Tenn law?
If I take a photograph of her nude at 18 yrs old, will I be charged under Tenn law?
Ok, what if I "believe" the photo is from her at age 18. Does that make this all ok?
A child who never grows up. Haven't we had enough stories about Michael Jackson?
the mutation would be not in the HGH pathway, but in some pathway ABOVE the HGH pathway that governs the HGH pathway and a bunch of other growth pathways, like brain development. some deeper aspect of growth initiation, some sort of growth "superswitch" this girl has given us unique insight into
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
How is sex a life-changing decision? I'm 23, I've done it once.
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In the old days, the sick and disabled died due to unpreventable natural causes. Today, we're able to save their lives, although perhaps not reverse disability. In the future, reversing disabilities will be as common as life saving treatment is today. I think it's perfectly rational to keep people in deep comas or children who age improperly around in the hope that they might be cured. In the long run, there are vastly fewer people in this category than the entire population, so it's not a measurable drain on society. To me, it seems like a reasonable tradeoff. Occasionally you get surprising results like Ambien waking people up from certain types of comas. If the child in this story were able to get a treatment allowing her to start growing normally, would you still consider euthanasia the right choice? What if there's a 50% probability of such a treatment developing within the next 20 or 30 years when it would still be viable to treat her?
I think what you're looking for is "flamebait"
itym 'jailbait'
Ah, I see your problem. For it to be life-changing, there usually needs to be more than one person involved.
Actually, it's XKCD.
...only two more years till she's legal.
could be a consequence of this superswitch turning off a whole bunch of things, not just whether or not hgh is produced. perhaps her body has always produced hgh? the superswitch might only govern response to hgh, not hgh production. or it might govern both, or a whole bunch of other developmental issues and causes and effects. not responding to hgh is just one small piece i bet of the puzzle. but the bizarre thing is to find someone with a mutation in this one hypothetical superswitch
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Why isn't there an "insensitive" mod point?
Would that be +1 or -1 ?
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1267281&cid=28484753 All anybody has to do is read there, and the 2-4 parent posts before it, especially those from "Americano", to see he is nothing more than a loud-mouthed troll that makes mistakes galore and then runs when it is time to face the music for his mistakes.
and no receptors
as if something far deeper and of greater consequence was being switched off
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Surely it's that she isn't GROWING or DEVELOPING that is unique ? There seems no evidence that she does not AGE, I am sure she will die like the rest of us.
but....
she's legal in the UK now
don't link pedobear to this article
"People don't die from the old diseases any more. They die from new ones, but that's Progress, isnt it?
Isn't it?"
Harlan Ellison
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I'm sure someone else has brought this up, but I believe this would be a good time to point out just how much we DON'T know about our own species.
For all the technology, and breakthroughs we've had over the past century, we are still only scratching the surface of truly understanding ourselves and the environment we're in. It baffles that people think we know more than we actually do, and even more so that people turn to non-scientific based reasoning to provide solutions to real world problems. I hate to be the one to say it, but a good portion of humanity needs to wake the fuck up and realize where we are at as a civilization in the cosmos.
Here's a hint: WE ARE NOT SPECIAL, AND WE ARE NOT 'GODS'.
Seems others agree with me:
"What a fucking hypocritical lying little troll." - by tomhudson (43916) on Friday June 26, @03:29PM (#28486897) Journal
Amen, & agreed, 110%...
APK
P.S.=> The funniest part is, Americano tried to call ME that, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1267281&cid=28473695
"He's an ill-informed troll" - by Americano on Thursday June 25, @06:39PM (#28473695)
And, then I simply showed a FRACTION of where the poster he was so "vigorously defending" had made so many mistakes (technical ones), that were totally incorrect from the get-go no less -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1267281&cid=28484753 & yet?
SOMEHOW he was "modded up" (probably by "Americano" here, who is doubtless a 'sock puppet' account of the person he defends in "RyuuzakiTetsuya" there)...
OH, & by the way "Americano"? Like here, you 'skimmed' & screwed up, trying to put words into others' mouths as you did to Tom Hudson & now are "eating your own words" for... & you're going to have to EAT A FEW MORE, right now (hope you're not TOO full of your own shit, lol, by this point, because here it comes):
"and his posts usually simply break down into pointless ranting about how you can't say anything because you're not an "expert" - as defined by him - whereas he is an expert based on a handful of online journal publications, and thus his statements are unassailable." - by Americano on Thursday June 25, @06:39PM (#28473695)
Well, first of all, when/where I have been featured in written publications in the science of computing, it was in reputable written respected publications, such as these (Though, I have done well on forums & such over time also):
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only... there are others, such as newspapers as well, but this will do, for now...
Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING EVEN NEAR REMOTELY THE SAME?
(If so, prove it please, I evidently had to... thanks!)
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The day you can do ALL of that? THEN, you ca
tl;dr
lol! I'm such a TOOL that I had to write this long-winded stupidity in a completely unrelated FORUM!
I haven't yet learned that most people don't GIVE A SHIT about me!
lol!
APK
P.S. => I am well received in every forum I don't post in! Have you ever matched that? If you CANNOT then you must, LEARN TO, READ first... or, you'll have to keep "eating YOUR WORDS" troll... 2x now... lol! apk
In Brazil there is a case of a 29 years old woman with the same "disease". The TV program that showed her is very sensationalist, the case is real. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3THlCV9hXTw (it's in Portuguese, but you are not missing much)
I've been thinking we need +1 lolwut and -1 lolwut for a while now
Troll, impersonating ME now? LMAO...
Well, TomHudson, as you can see? The TROLL named "Americano" is impersonating me now... too bad you have to deal with him, but doing that?
Easy enough!
(What with seeing as his obviously dull & damaged brain skims & cannot read + interpret the written word properly, what with Americano putting words into your mouth you never said, & Americano also stating I was in "online publications only", per my quote of his statement to that effect in the post parent to this one, I completely disprove that & prove YOUR POINT TomHudson, that Americano here is nothing more than a troll, & not even a GOOD ONE @ that, lmao...)
"I haven't yet learned that most people don't GIVE A SHIT about me!" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @03:43PM (#28487073)
Seems YOU surely do, but then again? While TomHudson & myself PROVED you are nothing but a "lowly troll" with a defective brain (dyslexia no doubt, what w/ your skimming errors & putting words in others' mouths as you did to Tom), that & the truths I showed in your doing the same to me, and screwing up as you have here?
ROTFLMAO!
APK
P.S.=> Thus, it appears my rebuttal there in the URL above clearly has him "running scared", lol, & now impersonating me (I feel honored, lol)... apk
That's highly unlikely. There are basic reasons why we age, which boil down to the laws of physics and our relationship with energy. A good read (albeit highly technical) can be found here, where ageing is put in a cellular context. One of the ideas: our cells age, and yet they give rise to young structures (babies are born very young, but their parents are not young). This process allows us to be "immortal" by spawning off copies. Bacteria make exact copies, we make mixed copies. "Natural selection and immortality" http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=18720024
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it dissolve.
Ok, what if I "believe" the photo is from her at age 18. Does that make this all ok?
I don't know, ask the jury.
What a line of bs ->
"I didn't write that, so please don't attribute it to me. It would seem that someone else loves you enough to try to replicate your dense and unreadable writing style, APK, but it wasn't me." - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
At this point you are not fooling anyone reading here after all of your mistakes here to both TomHudson and myself, yes, in another thread, because I KNEW YOU WERE A TROLL AND NOTHING MORE, and got substantiation of it, not my own opinion only, but that of TomHudson here also.
"If I want to say people don't give a shit about you" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
That's odd, because an entire list of written publications in the field of computing I produced says QUITE otherwise...
"I'll state it under my own userid, rather than under protection of an Anonymous Coward moniker. To whit:" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
Ugh, man... lol! I just KNEW you had reading problems, what with TomHudson catching you skimming and putting words in his mouth here in this exchange, but writing also? The CORRECT phrase is "TO WIT"...
Please - get help with your reading/writing...
No - Anyone here reading knows you are a troll and nothing more since 2 people in myself and TomHudson have already caught you in your mistakes you had to admit to and you had to apologize for it no less to he.
Learn to read and take your dyslexia treatments (or get remedial reading help) because the way you skim and impersonate others here only makes you appear to be worse of a troll and this is the last I will say here to a troll like you as I do not feed trolls.
Especially trolls that impersonate others, as you have myself, and think you are "fooling us" with your statements now? Please... you simply made a mess of things for themselves as you did with both myself, and tomhudson.
"You followed me over here in a failed attempt to troll me on a completely unrelated topic" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
Yes, I did... why? To see what type of person you are, if you are a troll or not as I suspected, and what was it you called it?? Ah, yes -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1267281&cid=28487853 "independent confirmation" (albeit, only YOUR opinion).
Seems TomHudson & I outnumber your opinion 2:1 thusfar, eh?
APK
P.S.=> TomHudson, sorry you also had to deal with this troll, but they're generally quite stupid and try to "fool others" (their weakness? They think people are stupid, like them! rotflmao...)... apk
Take a look at what the parents are eating, in this world of preprocessed foods; a baby affected by the numerous preservatives found in almost all foods was bound to happen. Perhaps her body has genetically bonded with a preservative.
"I wish she'd stay small and cute forever!!"
Be careful what you wish for!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283193&cid=28488515
APK
P.S.=> See that URL above, that replies' for U, "Americano" (troll, per TomHudson stating that AND myself in utter 110% agreement) & per my subject-line above?
Yes - You KNOW you've lost, when you've got to resort to impersonating an "A/C" like myself, as you obviously have in impersonating myself "Americano"...
(So much for being an "almighty" & EASILY TRACKED "registered user" here, eh?)... apk
Sounds like Anne Poole.
http://qntm.org/?ashmore
That is all.
Just out of curiosity, because the more I think of this story, the more it smells like something where it's going to turn out to be a hoax. Maybe even one of those deals where there's all sorts of obvious stuff that should have been checked like birth records, et al.
I could be wrong, but it smells funny.
Pug
An Invisible Entity of Vast Power whose existence must be taken on faith alone: Liberal Media
Here's you chance without breaking the law!
Do NOT assume anything!
For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
"too long; can't be bothered reading more of your nonsense." - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @06:42PM (#28489341)
Yes, as I suspected & YOU PROVED before, but especially now (after impersonating me here no less): You DO have a dyslexic or ADD/ADHA riddled defective brain, & again? It's "To WIT", not "to whit" (fool)... & you tried to tell myself + others how to write no less? PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!
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"You followed me over here in a failed attempt to troll me on a completely unrelated topic" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
Yes, I did, from here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1267281&cid=28480677 ... why?
Well - first, just to see what type of person you are, if you are a troll or not as I suspected, and what was it you called it?? Ah, yes -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1267281&cid=28487853 "independent confirmation" (albeit, only YOUR opinion).
(Seems TomHudson & I outnumber your opinion 2:1 thusfar, eh?)
Also, I am certain that others (should they wish to see your "poor showing" in that other thread) may wish to see your screwups over here vs. myself as well ->
(That's where YOU RAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1267281&cid=28480677 (from there onwards, 2-3 posts only too), after falling FLAT ON YOUR FACE!)
Yes, you "fell flat on your face", simply by showing your clear inability to fix a problem on the MacOS X when I asked how YOU would do it... it's doable!
(JUST THE WAY I SAID IT WOULD BE TO THE POSTER YOU DEFENDED (another *NIX nut, who was so full of errors it was unbelievable, & his errors were pointed out in the URL I just posted)
"StRaNgELy" though? The guy you defended was "modded up", even with blatant mistakes!
Gee - I wonder by WHO (you, as it is obvious you are 1 of his multiple 'sock puppet' accounts no doubt, which is what YOU ACCUSED ME OF in that last URL above, lmao, & yet you had to impersonate me, an "A/C" here?)
Imo, @ least? Being an "almighty registered user" (not) here?? Dumb - it makes you SO EASILY TRACKED for trolling, for research, & more?? That it is NOT funny!
APK
P.S.=> Better luck NEXT time, troll (& I am sure there will be, I have dealt with YOUR KIND, before, & it always ends the same (with trolls like you RUNNING, as you did in our discussion in that other thread whose URL I posted above)): TOO easy!... apk
At the very least, you might consider that sometime before she dies a doctor might figure out how to unlock the processes of development?
And, maybe, becoming able to talk, she'll be able to talk about all the things that she's had to put up with?
I know it's a long shot, but, maybe her telling us about her unique experience would provide us with clues to the more difficult questions about certain of the so-called soft sciences?
I mean, these are just extensions of the stock arguments about taking utilitarian social theory too far. Are you completely unfamiliar with that?
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
Since I have to have some text here, I'll explain what shouldn't be necessary.
Do you feel as if you were your parents' toy?
If so, it's not an uncommon experience.
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
I've feared this since I was 18yrs old... (I'm 56 now) ... that they'd figure out how to stop aging about the time I turn 60 or 70 ----- instead of when I was say 33 or 35 .... sheeet
"The Greenbergs are fascinated by the promise that a scientific breakthrough may stem from Brooke" Stem cell?
What's the age of consent where she lives? There are countries where it's 15, she is already past that age. But she isn't able to speak yet, she may simply not be able to consent, in which case it would be rape. AFAIK rape is illegal in all of the western world. If she was able to consent and take money for it, that would be prostitution, which is illegal in a lot of countries as well.
Do you care about the security of your wireless mouse?
Isolate the genes from this girl and send people out to populate mars or the moon on one way trips. Imagine uninterrupted lifetimes spent exploring the stars. She's just like Wolverine just a bit smaller.
"I didn't write that, so please don't attribute it to me." - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
Others didn't believe you either: Note the -1 "offtopic" down-mod you received? THAT says quite enough, about that, in & of itself...
"It would seem that someone else loves you enough to try to replicate your dense and unreadable writing style, APK, but it wasn't me" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
Tell you what: You prove to myself & others reading here that you have a PHD in English? Maybe then, we'll actually lend your words on "what good writing style is", ok?
(Also, 2 can play THAT game - Didn't you write "To Whit" to myself in our exchanges here?? Yes, you did, & the PROPER phrase is "To Wit"... so, so much for YOUR 'commanding others' OR telling others what "good writing style is" or whose writing is "dense & unreadable", eh??)
APK
P.S.=> Now, above ALL else: If my writing is "dense & unreadable", then how on earth can you be conversing with me, back & forth??? Give us a break already with the "wannabe PHD" stuff, because you do not have one that proves you are qualified to critique others' writing, & for Pete's sake - this is a FORUMS BOARD CONVERSATION (not my "last will & testament", nor other form of legal correspondence or a paper for a grade even)... apk
What Gulliver did was travel to lands of giants, to lands of midgets and to lands of never ageing. An interesting read. However, this situation is very intriguing. Will the child outlive her parents great grandchildren? Can she live 200+ years?
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
.... when he read this article, you thoughtless creeps!
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- aqk
F U
HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING EVEN NEAR REMOTELY THE SAME AS MY 1997 MAGAZINE ARTICLE?
Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
Gaze in WONDER at it's genius YOU DIRTY LITTLE FAGGOT
lol APK
"Gaze in WONDER at it's genius YOU DIRTY LITTLE FAGGOT lol APK"
- by by Americano (920576) on Saturday June 27, @03:08PM (#28496587)
See my subject-line above, & realize that I don't use terms like "dirty little faggot", if you're going to impersonate me @ least, Americano...
(And, I guess I was correct: You DON'T have that PHD in English, now do you? You can stop trying to tell others how to write or what "good writing style" is, without one... that goes the same for your 'sidewalk surgeon/quack' assessments of others' mental states also, because you'll need a license to practice psychiatry and a PHD in it before anyone pays you any mind...)
APK
P.S.=> It must REALLY bother you that I have done well in written publication in this science (where you have not apparently), so here is the FULL LIST for your reference once more (since you stated it was only in "online journals", Americano):
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only... there are others, such as newspapers as well, but this will do, for now...
Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
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AMERICANO - HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING EVEN NEAR REMOTELY THE SAME?
(If so, prove it please, I evidently had to... thanks!)
The day you can do ALL of that? THEN, you can talk (but, of course? You NEVER WILL...lol!) - but before talking? LEARN TO READ, first... or, you'll have to keep "eating your words" troll... as you have here already 2x now... lol! apk
Wow, APK. You sure are getting testy. Why the harsh language? Or is it wishful thinking on your part?
See subject-line, & grow up.
APK
"You can dick around with crippling your Windows box so it can't play videos and mess around with ACLs on your files all you want." - by Americano (920576)
on Sunday June 28, @01:56AM (#28501419)
Who says I do without playing videos? I can run any downloaded file through videoinspector to see if it is a legitimate .avi file if I like, OR, just use another video format (there is usually alternate downloads in diff. formats, or, I run a legit one thru a video file format conversion program)... so much for YOUR suggestions (because you obviously aren't aware of these options apparently).
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"Have fun - while you're doing that, I'll be busy over here, actually using my more-secure-by-default computer to do things that are productive and enjoyable." - by Americano (920576) on Sunday June 28, @01:56AM (#28501419)
I will have fun, and have a job on Windows, doing all that you think I cannot, and on a system that has more softwares & hardwares available for any kind of purpose there is, including employability (since Windows has the HUGELY "lion's share" of the market, all the way from home user desktops, up through departmental workstations & servers, up to "Enterprise Class/Mission Critical" servers, especially vs. *NIX)...
APK
P.S.=> You only helped prove my points - first, that you *NIX people talk out your behinds & are wrong (as per usual, see this reply above for example) + that YOU had to use ACL's &/or guest accounts (which LIMIT FUNCTIONALITY, and you said you weren't doing that? B.S. on that, right there, because using limited accounts does EXACTLY that), proving my point to RyuuzakiTetsuya that his "macos x security guide" was imperfect (& even SECUNIA.COM recommends altering ACL on Mac's)...
(and, still this one -> http://secunia.com/advisories/18963/2/ has PEBKAC issues, & you can't "fix that", fully, OR not without disabling some functionality or using limited function accounts, period)
Whereas I can go @ it using a FULL BLOWN Administrator account, & just be cautious on Quartz.dll played .avi files, as I stated above (replying here because the thread where we discussed this was "shut" & very oddly early as well (must have been because I was going to post THIS VERY POST, disproving your b.s.))... apk
No thanks, on the "get stuffed" remark... I don't 'cripple my OS' @ all, because I can still view .avi files, as long as I check their legitimacy via a tool like VideoInspector (good freeware)...
(So, quit giving others orders (I only posted facts that disprove what you wrote, simple - don't like that? Oh well, too bad!))
By the way? I am not the one others called a TROLL here, you are... TomHudson nailed YOU right on the head on that account, and I was not "modded down" as you were here either... and, most of all - you were modded down, because you have attempted to impersonate me here, & fooled no one in YOUR doing of it to myself, get it??
APK
P.S.=> All you ended up doing was proving that the use of lesser privilege IS needed (via your use of guest accounts, & what SECUNIA also said was required to FULLY & PROPERLY secure a Mac, as well as Apple Computers' guides as well)... You NEED to use ACL (or its analog on Mac's or any *NIX, via things like CHOWN to do so) in order to properly & fully secure a Mac, just like Windows!
(Which is what I was proving to RyuuzakiTetsuya in the post YOU entered (which is now closed, oddly, & very early too by comparison to most (gee, I "wonder why" (maybe because this site has a HUGE "Pro-*NIX slant/bias" to it? Naw, couldn't be... lol!))))... apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283193&cid=28488875
I wasn't the one whom others "modded down" for impersonating me, was I? See the URL above, because it appears that happened to YOU, in being modded down, when you attempted to deny your doing an impersonation of myself...
(So, who did you think you were fooling?? Nobody here apparently, judging by the fact YOU got "modded down" for such lunacy!)
APK
P.S.=> And, by the by? No "crippling" of my OS occurs, I can STILL play .avi files, just fine, as long as I run avi files thru a tool like VideoInspector, to check their legitimacy (OR, I can just temporarily disable Quartz.DLL via ACL alterations & not play .avi files, either way, keeps me safe)... pretty simple!
HOWEVER - You, on MacOS X on the other hand, per this one -> http://secunia.com/advisories/18963/2/ ??
All you have is a "partial fix", & it's not fully secured, & the folks @ SECUNIA, and Apple, KNOW IT... (So much for your "secure MacOS X", eh???)
Funniest part of all is, that the fixes MacOS X has recommended by SECUNIA.COM also deal in altering permissions to files, & so does YOUR use of limited privelege accounts, proving my point to RyuuzakiTetsuya where HE had to use that, & his "security guide for MacOS X" included NO USE of CHOWN, but, in the end? HE HAS TO USE IT, & so do you, via limited privelege accounts use on YOUR part on YOUR MacOS X system... period!... apk
Reading comprehension. It's wildly exciting, you should try it.
"Reading comprehension. It's wildly exciting, you should try it." - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @12:18AM (#28538515)
Yea, ok, "Sure"... So, why don't you see my subject-line above, & then on YOUR PART, try learning to use PHRASES, correctly:
"To whit:" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
The CORRECT PHRASE & SPELLING, is "To Wit"... not (lmao) "To whit", as you stated it...
APK
P.S.=> By the way?
1.) Where IS that PHD in English of yours, to criticize others' writing style with? Oh, that's right - YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, obviously, by the incorrect spelling of "To Whit" on YOUR PART, above - See? YOU, the "great critic" of others' writing, in "Americano" (amongst his other personas here which we already have seen) makes BIG mistakes himself, will wonders NEVER cease (LMAO!)...
2.) YOU were "modded-down" -1 when you tried to deny impersonating me here in this exchange in that SAME post I quoted your "To Whit:" from -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283193&cid=28488875 (lmao - which seeing you modded down, it seems NO ONE BELIEVED YOUR b.s. then, either)
3.) Bottom-line though: You said I was 'crippling my OS'? BEG TO DIFFER: Funny - I can still watch .avi files, just fine, WITHOUT unregistering quartz.dll (or, disabling access to it, until it is fixed), by passing .avi files thru VideoInspector, to see if they indeed, legitimate... but, I do agree that unregistering it or altering its ACL is good medicine until it's fixed (hopefully, on Patch Tuesday 1-2 week(s) from today by MS)
4.) Look into "reading comprehension" yourself, because YOUR "security suggestions" for MacOS X fall FAR short of those @ SECUNIA.COM, and FROM APPLE.COM as well & fall more into line with what I show users of Windows NT-based OS of modern variety how to do for both files/folders & the registry, for the BEST in possible security on them (especially vs. threats like Conficker lately, for example)!
Also QUITE HILARIOUS, is your 'ultra secure' MacOS X only has a "partial fix" on this one though -> http://secunia.com/advisories/18963/2/ & YOU CANNOT FIX IT FULLY (period, as it deals in PEBKAC issues + more) & to fix up the outstanding issues on Windows NT-based OS, I am able to fix them all, or easily work-around them!
(SO, like you said? Don't do "stupid shit", & all the rest will be ok - trouble is, does "gramma-user/noob user" know enough? Well - I provided guides to Windows folks for it, for decades now & the latest are the best, no questions asked... ones that make it easy as possible via a free automated tool, from a respected source that was noted well in COMPUTERWORLD iirc, as far as publications in this science - have YOU done the same? I hope not, based on your mistakes & bad assumptions!)...
(Which I also showed RyuuzakiTetsuya he was "off on" as well - because both SECUNIA.COM &/or APPLE themselves state that changing permissions (via CHOWN, which is what RyuuzakiTetsuya had to use vs. an attack scenario we discussed no less to secure himself vs. it OR using trusted users only) is a big part of "the way to go", to secure MacOS X fully vs. various threats, thus? You only proved my point, vs. his (RyuuzakiTetsuya) even more, thanks!,/b> AND - & gee: I wonder, who KNOWS more about securing an OS, than the makers of the OS themselves in Apple, & SECUNIA.COM, a noted respected site for security of computers? Hmmmm??)... apk
Why are your "P.S." blocks longer than the actual comment? Are you that dim-witted that you don't understand what P.S. means?
Seriously - get a grip. You're continuing to troll in a thread that's completely unrelated to this discussion. You're not convincing anyone of anything with all this endless prattling on.
I've already proven my point, and shown you for the complete charlatan that you are. Stop dragging it out, you just make yourself look foolish.
"Why are your "P.S." blocks longer than the actual comment? Are you that dim-witted that you don't understand what P.S. means?" - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @09:55AM (#28541653)
Again: Where's that PHD in English of yours to support anyone actually lending YOU any credence as to your "critiques" of others' writing style?
(Above all else though, on this note - it's only a forums, not my "last will & testament", nor legal correspondence of any kind, or even a paper for a grade (so, lighten up, & get real - you're no authority on how to write ("to WHIT" "to wit" -> , lmao!))
"INSTANT REPLY EVERYONE - a quote from the "wannabe PHD in English", Americano, & his mistakes writing, evidenced below"
"To whit:" - by Americano (920576) on Friday June 26, @05:56PM (#28488875)
And, once more (for your reference, AND OUR "VIEWING PLEASURE" @ this moment of absolutely HIGH COMEDY (you tell others how to write, but screwup yourself? LOL!):
The CORRECT PHRASE & SPELLING, is "To Wit"... not (lmao) "To whit", as you stated it...
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NOW, let's "Top that off" with the rest of your mistakes, & misdoings, A-D below (that got you called a TROLL here by TomHudson for putting words in his mouth he never stated on your part & got you modded down for impersonating me here also, despite your denial of it - you can see plainly, NOBODY believed you & modded you down for it!)
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A.) YOU were "modded-down" -1 when you tried to deny impersonating me here in this exchange & in that SAME post I quoted your "To Whit:" from -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283193&cid=28488875 [slashdot.org] (lmao - which seeing you modded down, it seems NO ONE BELIEVED YOUR b.s. then, either)
B.) Bottom-line though: You said I was 'crippling my OS'? BEG TO DIFFER: Funny - I can still watch .avi files, just fine, WITHOUT unregistering quartz.dll (or, disabling access to it, until it is fixed), by passing .avi files thru VideoInspector, to see if they indeed, legitimate... but, I do agree that unregistering it or altering its ACL is good medicine until it's fixed (hopefully, on Patch Tuesday 1-2 week(s) from today by MS)
C.) Look into "reading comprehension" yourself, because YOUR "security suggestions" for MacOS X fall FAR short of those @ SECUNIA.COM, and FROM APPLE.COM as well & fall more into line with what I show users of Windows NT-based OS of modern variety how to do for both files/folders & the registry, for the BEST in possible security on them (especially vs. threats like Conficker lately, for example)!
D.) Also QUITE HILARIOUS, is your 'ultra secure' MacOS X only has a "partial fix" on this one though -> http://secunia.com/advisories/18963/2/ & YOU CANNOT FIX IT FULLY (period, as it deals in PEBKAC issues + more) & to fix up the outstanding issues on Windows NT-based OS, I am able to fix them all, or easily work-around them - WITHOUT ADVERSELY IMPACTING FUNCTION, or, CRIPPLING MY SYSTEM (as you put it, & are clearly WRONG on as well)!
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(SO, like you said? Don't do "stupid shit", & all the rest will be ok - trouble is, does "gramma-user/noob user" know enough? Well - I provided guides to Windows folks for it, for decades now & the latest are the best, no questions asked... ones that make it easy as possible via a free automated tool, from a respected source that was noted well in COMPUTERWORLD iirc, as far as publications in this science - have YOU done the same? I hope not, based on your mistakes & bad assumptions!)...
(NOW - I also showed RyuuzakiTetsuya he was "off on" as well - because both SECUNIA.COM &/or APPLE themselves state that changing permis
Fair enough, on ignoring me (though you have not with this reply, but... "oh well") because, in any event?
Hey - That works for me also!
APK
P.S.=> As far as "nothing to share" though, & WHY I am in this thread? Well, you came into the other one with Ryuuteryaki (sp?) & gave me your 2 cents (& put up a FAR more logical & better argument than he did, I will give you THAT much, in fairness)... but, in the end?
Well - It appears you CANNOT fix that problem on the MacOS X, whereas I was able to get around ANY outstanding "bugs" on Windows Server 2003, without adversely impacting/affecting functionality either... so, I think I actually DID contribute quite a lot!
(AND, you were unwilling to disprove that point
(Which was, of course, MY MAIN POINT, for appearing in this thread now - that other one I came in from to approach you? It was shut, & way, Way, WAY earlier than it should have been)
LOL - Gee: "I wonder why"...
Perhaps it was because I was 'getting the better of the *NIX crew here' with my points, especially vs. theirs/yours, in your 'security guides' for MacOS X, which fall FAR short of those from SECUNIA.COM &/or Apple Computers themselves, & use what Ryuuterayaki (sp?) omitted in his: Lesser priv. account usage, as well as CHOWN usage (which he HAD to use, to secure himself, vs. an attack scenario he & I discussed) & that /. here has a HUGE "Pro-*NIX slant/bias"? No, "couldn't be", lmao... apk
"I have shown that it requires less crippling of system functionality to secure." - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @03:13PM (#28547397)
Per my subject-line above? What did I 'cripple' to "cure the ills" on the still unpatched security vulnerabilities I reviewed, point-by-point no less, from SECUNIA.COM advisories??
After all, here, in THIS VERY EXCHANGE & the other one we came from?
Hey - You said I 'crippled my OS' via not being able to play .avi files!
(AND, I clearly showed you an EASY 'work-around' for that (run any suspect, or ANY, .avi files thru a verifier program like VideoInspector, first, prior to trying them in a mediaplayer of anykind)).
Above all else though? I knew you couldn't stay away, despite stating you'd "ignore me"... lmao! So answer THAT question above I just asked, & then the one in my "p.s." below, also, ok??
(Because I don't think I have to post the fact that others called you a troll here, or that you were "modded down" for impersonating me here, & then LYING about it also, & that you had to "eat your words" to others here already...)
APK
P.S.=>
"You have ignored all of that though, because it's inconvenient to the fiction you cling to that you're right." - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @03:13PM (#28547397)
Oh, really? Now, why then won't you tell us, how YOU would FULLY fix this on MacOS X then -> http://secunia.com/advisories/18963/ ? Because, according to SECUNIA.COM & that advisory?? You really cannot... not fully & what Apple DID implement, is ONLY A PARTIAL FIX! apk
You have to manually disable playing of .avi files, and then if you wish to play them, you have to go through a ridiculous scanning or conversion process. I consider that crippled. Your "fixes" for many of the other fixes also included unregistering dll's or changing permissions on them in such a way that they probably will also break functionality elsewhere in the system. That is crippling the software.
I've already told you: don't do stupid shit. Don't open and run scripts from sources you don't run. There is no "fix" for tricking a user into doing something stupid, and Windows is just as much at risk as Mac OS is in that regard, perhaps more so with so many services running with administrator level permissions.
I've answered all of these questions for you previously, and in detail. Why do you keep demanding I repeat them?
"You have to manually disable playing of .avi files, and then if you wish to play them, you have to go through a ridiculous scanning or conversion process. I consider that crippled." - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @04:45PM (#28549235)
I don't, & how can you? I can play .avi files just FINE, & be safe - thanks for proving me correct, & having to try to make it seem like "it's still not working" when clearly, that's absolute b.s. per my results... As, again: I actually don't HAVE to disable quartz.dll or access to it, @ all - I just verify if the .avi I wish to play is legit, via VideoInspector (nice, useful, & freeware) & the "ridiculous scanning process"?
Only takes seconds!
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"Your "fixes" for many of the other fixes also included unregistering dll's or changing permissions on them in such a way that they probably will also break functionality elsewhere in the system. That is crippling the software." - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @04:45PM (#28549235)
Where, because according to my guides I wrote up that go into THAT & FAR MORE (that works, even vs. "The MiGhTy CoNfiCkEr" worm?) Well, let's let others speak on that account, other than myself, shall we?
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http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ae352cd32542fe49a55fe00b11086449&t=28430&page=3 [xtremepccentral.com] [xtremepccentral.com]
"Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)" - THRONKA (forums user @ xtremepccentral)
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Thus, you see another person, besides myself, who is enjoying absolutely FULL function & stable, infestation free uptime... with relative ease.
A little bit of work, maybe 2++ hrs., tops, for YEARS to DECADES of stable uptime.
Just like NASDAQ sees running a high tpm 24x7 fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003, same as I do here in fact...
(Tough to argue with that, & certainly more sensible than spending a few G's on a Mac... because it's free, & CIS Tool makes MOST of it easy to do, very easy in fact, but bottom-line is, that it just works!)
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"Windows is just as much at risk as Mac OS is in that regard, perhaps more so with so many services running with administrator level permissions." - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @04:45PM (#28549235)
Did I say either was setup right out of the box? No, not once to you, or Ryuuteryaki (sp?) either... only that they can be improved, & that *NIX folks here + elsewhere usually seem to say this type of thing -> "Winblows/Wintendo sux, *NIX UBER ALLES!!!" but never admit their OS of choice has its hassles also.
APK
P.S.=>
"I've answered all of these questions for you previously, and in detail. Why do you keep demanding I repeat them?" - by Amer
Once again you ignore the proof I've offered and cite *your* ignorance as proof that I'm wrong.
You're hopeless. As I've said previously, enjoy dicking around with your crippled system. I'll be doing something useful and productive on mine.
See my subject-line above, & this from YOU, no less (when you stormed into the discussion with Ryuuteryaki (sp?):
"You can dick around with crippling your Windows box so it can't play videos" - by Americano (920576) on Sunday June 28, @01:56AM (#28501419)
But, you see, @ this point by now @ least? That I CAN & do so, safely, simply by taking a few seconds to scan any .avi file thru VideoInspector (to see if it is legit, & it's a freeware, & it works (takes only seconds)) - mind you, that's w/out disabling access to QUARTZ.DLL (the affected lib) or unregistering it.
Funny - I have a valid "work-around" for MY issue on Windows... you evidently don't for the scripting fix, only partial no less from Apple.
(AND, so you know, since you cited figures here on this note, first? Well - I have gone, right now thru this system, & the one before it, + the one before THAT even (by using that guide of mine's points over Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003) over 12 yrs. now, no infestations or other malware related incidents (just so you know, since you stated you have done so on your Mac for 2.5 yrs.))...
If that's NOT enough, then people like THRONKA who applied my guide, whom I quoted in my last reply (for both he & his customer no less) have enjoyed the same for coming up on as long as YOU have done well on MacOS X... truthfully? The ONLY thing (& I said this to Ryuuteryaki (sp?) was, that I just do NOT like how "Pro-*NIX" people always say "Winblowz/Wintendo sux, *NIX 'UBER ALLES'" & that's all!
What did it get me? Well, he called me all kinds of names for 1 thing, & he was TOTALLY off about SAMBA vs. NetBIOS @ the time he wrote it + more... then, you "suddenly come along", accused me of being other posters there, & yet here? YOU were the one "modded down" when you tried to deny impersonating me here (to try to tick me off, it doesn't actually - it only makes me realize I am getting the better of my opponent in debate to be blunt about it is all), & others called you a troll (rightfully so, in TomHudson's case here though)
APK
P.S.=> BOTTOM-LINE: Given your FIRST quote I used above (from the other post you came into where I showed that Ryuuteryaki (sp?) was "off" in his guides, missing TONS of points that Apple themselves cover in a VERY thorough guide for securing MacOS X (that IS much like the one I put out for Windows in fact, in terms of comprehensive coverage for security online) &, my reply to it, because it is sound & works, + allows me to do what you said I could not, not without crippling my system?
Well, now looking @ this one from you now ->
"you ignore the proof I've offered and cite *your* ignorance as proof that I'm wrong" - by Americano (920576) on Wednesday July 01, @06:53PM (#28551273)
I wonder who's being "obstinant", stubborn, & unwllling to admit they were WRONG here? I am able to do what you said I could not, & safely... figure it out, lol! apk
Thanks for confirming that I'm right with yet another long-winded bit of nonsense.
Your attempt to disprove me has failed, and it's clear that you know you're wrong - you keep citing one person, this "Thronka", who is probably you, who claims they're secure. Out of the millions of Windows boxes out there, just that one?
Stop shilling for Microsoft, troll. You're not convincing anyone, and you have no basis for your claims.
QUESTION: Did you say I could not play .avi files?
Yes, you did, here it is quoted verbatim, once more:
"You can dick around with crippling your Windows box so it can't play videos" - by Americano (920576) on Sunday June 28, @01:56AM (#28501419)
Answer my question above... &? A simple YES or NO will do on that (And, please - No more of your clearly evasive b.s.)
(Then again, ALL anyone has to do, is read what you wrote above, in plain black & white, & then see the solution I have to work around it, using VideoInspector (a freeware that works great) to scan + test if .avi files are indeed, legit & know "what's-what" here, anyhow (that I can & do play .avi files safely, despite your statement above))
TOO EASY! Thanks...
"Stop shilling for Microsoft, troll. You're not convincing anyone, and you have no basis for your claims." - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @10:00AM (#28557095)
LMAO... yes, yes - "the sure sign of defeat" in debate, is when you have the "Pro-*NIX" fanboys issuing "frothing @ the mouth" profane &/or name-tossing replies... again, TOO EASY!
(Gee: I wonder "who got the better of WHOM" here... not!)
APK
P.S.=> So, at this point, ANYONE READING here can plainly see, that I CAN & do indeed, play .avi files, safely, simply by taking a few seconds to scan any .avi file thru VideoInspector (to see if it is legit, & it's a freeware, & it works (takes only seconds)) - mind you, that's w/out disabling access to QUARTZ.DLL (the affected lib) or unregistering it... despite all your evasive b.s., namecalling, & otherwise losing statements here? As-per-usual?? I WIN... Too easy, as usual, also! apk
You cannot play videos without some ridiculous manual workaround. I consider that unusable. Would you consider your car in good working order if you had to climb in through the trunk because the locks were broken?
Q.E.D.
"You cannot play videos without some ridiculous manual workaround. I consider that unusable" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
I definitely know not, & all you are doing now, is trying to 'save face' because I can quote where you stated I could not watch videos & do so below (now you are 'turning tail' & trying to amend what you said, & you made a mistake, face it):
QUESTION: Did you say I could not play .avi files? Yes, you did, here it is quoted verbatim, once more:
"You can dick around with crippling your Windows box so it can't play videos" - by Americano (920576) on Sunday June 28, @01:56AM (#28501419)
LOL, Answer my question above... &? A simple YES or NO will do on that (And, please - No more of your clearly evasive b.s.)
(Then again, ALL anyone has to do, is read what you wrote above, in plain black & white, & then see the solution I have to work around it, using VideoInspector (a freeware that works great) to scan + test if .avi files are indeed, legit & know "what's-what" here, anyhow (that I can & do play .avi files safely, despite your statement above))
TOO EASY! Thanks... & by the by?
You can "dick around" with the unfinished & only partially fixed MacOS X bug on scripts (lol, some fix - it's right up there with the Java hole that all other OS vendors patched MONTHS ago, & it took Apple way, Way, WAY longer to fix than the rest - and you trust THAT level of speed of fixes? No wonder they had 971 security vulnerabilities over time, & the Windows version I use only had 274 in the same timeframe)
Yes, you made a mistake - Because I am watching an .avi right now, as I speak... It's quite usable and no "partial fixes" (ring a bell on MacOS X currently? LOL, it should... scripting holes galore, lol!)
I wonder - What is the more secure OS: The one I can fix or work around ANY problem & be safe, or yours, with only a "partial fix" in place that doesn't work fully & YOU CANNOT FIX IT?? LOL!
(& YOU said I could not play .avi files, lol (heck, you said I could not play videos period, & all that is affected is .avi files & even that? Can be worked around... easily AND SAFELY too!))
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"Would you consider your car in good working order if you had to climb in through the trunk because the locks were broken?" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
This isn't cars, it's computers, first of all... & as long as she runs? I am happy, as long as it gets me where I have to go primarily. Hey - I can fix cars on my own, just like I do computers (as long as it doesn't require more than an 8 piece socket set, which some stuff does, but NOT most), so I don't mind doing it (I save money in fact doing it, quite a lot!) S
o - just like securing Windows, which can be done well & for FREE, in under 2 hrs. time, for YEARS TO DECADES of solid uptime, which is financially smarter than buying a Mac! Of course, it's also wiser to "stick by" Windows, because it owns the "lion's share" of the market on the most used hardware platform there is, in x86 also, from home/end user desktops, thru departmental workstations & servers, up to "Mission Critical/Enterprise Class" servers.
Windows also provides a FAR greater surface are to find a job in than MacOS X does... and, speaking of "Enterprise Class/Mission Critical" scenarios?
Well, also - NASDAQ is going on 5++ yrs. straight in fact, of 99.999% uptime (the "Fabled '5-9's'" in fact) in a high tpm 24x7 environs... care to show me any stock exchanges that MacOS X has been shown to do the same?)
Lastly/again: This safety measure doesn't "cripple me" @ all, I can watch .avi in s
"You cannot play videos without some ridiculous manual workaround. I consider that unusable" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
The proof here seems to show otherwise, as I am watching an .avi right now, completely safe, after a 4 second verification of it being legit!
All you are doing now, is trying to 'save face' because I can quote where you stated I could not watch videos & do so below (now you are 'turning tail' & trying to amend what you said, & you made a mistake, face it):
QUESTION: Did you say I could not play .avi files? Yes, you did, here it is quoted verbatim, once more:
"You can dick around with crippling your Windows box so it can't play videos" - by Americano (920576) on Sunday June 28, @01:56AM (#28501419)" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
LOL, Answer my question above... &? A simple YES or NO will do on that (And, please - No more of your clearly evasive b.s.)
(Then again, ALL anyone has to do, is read what you wrote above, in plain black & white, & then see the solution I have to work around it, using VideoInspector (a freeware that works great) to scan + test if .avi files are indeed, legit & know "what's-what" here, anyhow (that I can & do play .avi files safely, despite your statement above))
TOO EASY! Thanks... & by the by?
You can "dick around" with the unfinished & only partially fixed MacOS X bug on scripts (lol, some fix - it's right up there with the Java hole that all other OS vendors patched MONTHS ago, & it took Apple way, Way, WAY longer to fix than the rest - and you trust THAT level of speed of fixes? No wonder they had 971 security vulnerabilities over time, & the Windows version I use only had 274 in the same timeframe)
I wonder - What is the more secure OS: The one I can fix or work around ANY problem & be safe, or yours, with only a "partial fix" in place that doesn't work fully & YOU CANNOT FIX IT??
"Inquiring minds want to know" lmao...
APK
P.S.=>
"Your system is, by default, more insecure than a mac. That simple fact has been demonstrated to you repeatedly using your own treasured Secunia data.",/b> - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
LOL, you mean THIS data -> http://secunia.com/advisories/18963/ [secunia.com] that shows MacOS X with a hole that is NOT fully fixable? Sure you "proved me wrong" & that YOUR choice in OS, in MacOS X is "more secure" (lol, not)... not even a "nice try"... apk
TOO easy...
"yawn. One trick ponies are boring." - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @04:08PM (#28563449)
Funny - That "1 trick" did you in easily (along w/ the security vulnerability in MacOS X that is unfinished & only a partial fix), did you in, along witn your impersonating me (which you were modded down for when you tried to deny it, lmao, nobody believed you then either) & you were called a troll here (your rep? Shot... you only did this, to yourself)... apk
"You cannot play videos without some ridiculous manual workaround. I consider that unusable" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
The proof here seems to show otherwise, as I am watching an .avi right now, completely safe, after a 4 second verification of it being legit!
All you are doing now, is trying to 'save face' because I can quote where you stated I could not watch videos & do so below (now you are 'turning tail' & trying to amend what you said, & you made a mistake, face it):
QUESTION: Did you say I could not play .avi files? Yes, you did, here it is quoted verbatim, once more:
"You can dick around with crippling your Windows box so it can't play videos" - by Americano (920576) on Sunday June 28, @01:56AM (#28501419)" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
LOL, Answer my question above... &? A simple YES or NO will do on that (And, please - No more of your clearly evasive b.s.)
(Then again, ALL anyone has to do, is read what you wrote above, in plain black & white, & then see the solution I have to work around it, using VideoInspector (a freeware that works great) to scan + test if .avi files are indeed, legit & know "what's-what" here, anyhow (that I can & do play .avi files safely, despite your statement above))
TOO EASY! Thanks... & by the by?
You can "dick around" with the unfinished & only partially fixed MacOS X bug on scripts (lol, some fix - it's right up there with the Java hole that all other OS vendors patched MONTHS ago, & it took Apple way, Way, WAY longer to fix than the rest - and you trust THAT level of speed of fixes? No wonder they had 971 security vulnerabilities over time, & the Windows version I use only had 274 in the same timeframe)
I wonder - What is the more secure OS: The one I can fix or work around ANY problem & be safe, AND HAVE FULL FUNCTION IN no less (and others besides myself said it like THRONKA @ xtremepccentral, for he AND his clients no less) or yours, with only a "partial fix" in place that doesn't work fully & YOU CANNOT FIX IT??
"Inquiring minds want to know" lmao...
APK
P.S.=>
"Your system is, by default, more insecure than a mac. That simple fact has been demonstrated to you repeatedly using your own treasured Secunia data." - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @02:39PM (#28561741)
LOL, you mean THIS data -> http://secunia.com/advisories/18963/ that shows MacOS X with a hole that is NOT fully fixable? Sure you "proved me wrong" & that YOUR choice in OS, in MacOS X is "more secure" (lol, not)... not even a "nice try"...
(Too, TOO easy)...
"yawn. One trick ponies are boring." - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @04:08PM (#28563449)
Funny - That "1 trick" did you in easily (along w/ the security vulnerability in MacOS X that is unfinished & only a partial fix), along witn your impersonating me (which you were modded down for when you tried to deny it, lmao, nobody believed you then either) & you were called a troll here (your rep? Shot... you only did this, to yourself!)
"I notice in another thread you've been modded down as an off-topic troll pretty thoroughly, too - maybe I can start talking about how you're modded troll, offtopic, redundant, and all kinds of other nasty stuff, too, in an attempt to discredit your lame points?" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @06:28PM (#28565433)
LOL, you're probably blowing your mod points modding me down elsewhere too, keep it up, I'll let YOU take your only 'weapon', away from YOURSELF (as I "get off" on watching peop
You are modded down because you're a troll. You get few mod-ups because you're a troll. See the pattern?
you have nothing useful to contribute, so you get modded down as off-topic, troll, redundant, overrated, and every other -1 mod.
As far as your claim that I'm the one down-modding you, well, that's patently absurd, as my policy is to only mod people up - I ignore the posts (such as yours) that are obvious trolls, or who have nothing to add when I have mod points. I believe in putting my name behind my posts, because I have a good name. You hide behind the shield of an AC because you know you'd quickly be banned from Slashdot with your obnoxious trolling.
"I notice in another thread you've been modded down as an off-topic troll pretty thoroughly, too" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @07:18PM (#28565967)
Where's that? Also, care to show myself & others here the evidence of that?
(What you ARE doing though, lol, is clearly demonstrating that you are "stalking me" here, hilarious... & losing @ every turn!)
You're only doing this, to yourself... as per usual!
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"you have nothing useful to contribute, so you get modded down as off-topic, troll, redundant, overrated, and every other -1 mod." - by Americano (920576)
on Thursday July 02, @07:18PM (#28565967)
Again, where is this?
LOL, unless you want to continue "blowing your mod points" modding me down as you have here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1287729&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=28537951
What you actually THREATENED to do in THIS very thread no less??
Give up, you're ruining yourself, not that someone like you even cares, you have nothing of worth you've ever done to show for yourself, especially when I asked for it of you - you give yourself away... you do NOT possess the intelligence, know how or skills to get the better of me, face it.
(lol, & someone modded up all the way back up, & I am fairly certain I know who, the parent poster there, in Freedom_India, who modded me up from your -1 posts to +1 insightful & undid your down mods, all of them @ his expense no less... nice guy!)
By the way? I actually archived the file & made a screenshot of it, in case you decide to "blow your entire wad" of mod points to mod them down again... TOO easy!
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"As far as your claim that I'm the one down-modding you, well, that's patently absurd, as my policy is to only mod people up - I ignore the posts (such as yours) that are obvious trolls, or who have nothing to add when I have mod points." - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @07:18PM (#28565967)
Funny, for someone that "ignores me", you sure have kept up quite a tirade & lost SO badly on MacOS X security (lol, with its unpatched GAPING scripting hole), it's not even FUNNY anymore!
(AND, you said I crippled my OS securing it? Funny, I am doing another .avi now of an upcoming concert in my area (L.A. GUNS), & doing so perfectly safely, despite your saying I could not & then later saying I had to use "workarounds that crippled my OS" funny, being able to play a video is NOT crippled as you said it was, now is it?)
Man, you are TRULY pitiful!
APK
P.S.=>
" I notice in another thread you've been modded down as an off-topic troll pretty thoroughly, too - maybe I can start talking about how you're modded troll, offtopic, redundant, and all kinds of other nasty stuff, too, in an attempt to discredit your lame points?" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday July 02, @06:28PM (#28565433)
You had better take a peek there again... lol, yes, like usual?
You are "eating your words" here, yet again!
So - How do they taste ("the bitter taste of defeat" once more - you should 'alter your diet' you know! LMAO...)?
(This time vs. myself in that thread, you are eating up large, & not just vs. TomHudson here whom you also skimmed, trolled, & screwed up on!)
APK
P.S.S. => "TOO EASY" - Thanks to whoever modded me up there, undoing what this troll who impersonated myself here & put words into TomHudson's mouth for & was called what he is for it, a TROLL, here also + Americano here was also down modded for impersonating me as well (the guy is lame, hate to say it)... Whoever modded me up after all your moddowns (thanks for blowing a HUGE chunk of your mod points too by the by), did a good job, & did so @ their own expense no less - & you end up eating your words, once again! apk