No more w virus allowed... I already have two brand new machines coming that I have to wipe clean and then put XP back on them (I can reimage them cheaper than the vendor, and they would do it at a cost..almost 50% of one machine, no thanks)... we don't support any thing else till we migrate over..
LTSP clients off a LTSP server... still working setups out...
We no longer will be supporting anything related to ms... we have already drawn the line with office work products...
Spreadsheets must be in either OO format, or CSV for non formula/formatted ones or data exchange. If you can't handle OO if you need the formulas etc.. your out of luck.
word processing must be in OO format, we don't accept it otherwise.
You obviously have no clue what VMWare Server, VMWare Player, and VMWare ESXi are... There is NO TRIAL PERIOD. They are ALL, 100% FREE. ZERO COST. NO MONEY. NONE.
Sign up and get as many keys as you can slurp...
Workstation may have a trial, don't know, don't care. Never investigated it...Its a paid product.
I get no emails from VMWare that I don't want...I've attended several FREE EVENTS and picked up some great stuff for FREE. Not a one tries to sell me any thing.... again if you are refering to VMW Workstation...that is a paid product to start.
ESXi is a HYPERVISOR v. the Server and Player.
VMWare is the PIONEER and MARKET LEADER of virtualization, any thing else is just trying to CATCH UP.
The only cost is if you want fancy schmancy things like VMotion etc... in an enterprise setting that may be of use or need... but in the small to medium company they are not needed.
virtualbox is garbage... from its USB support to many other features... which VMWare Player, Server and ESXi put it to shame.
Won't matter its not going to around much longer unless your paying for it!
Its obvious that your one of the few people around here to have clue....but.... the writing has been on the wall...
Oracle has taken the Standard Play #1 from the ms play book.... embrace, extend, extinguish... in the event that fails... purchase your rivals and close them down.
Solaris -> NO more free licenses! BYE, BYE! Java -> kiss it goodbye! MySQL -> KISS IT GOODBYE! ! ! Monty told you so! You heard it here! (Not first) Netbeans -> See ya! OpenSolaris -> Dead... Will have to be taken over by the community. virtualbox -> surprised they have not announced its death already... ITS TOAST! OpenOffice -> this is going to be golden goose that oracle kills.
I've already stopped all potential use of java for development and use of the NetBeans IDE and related services.... due to its forthcoming demise...
MySQL, same thing... I am looking at where to move... I am not a PostgreSQL fan....but may have little choice for something to fill the MySQL space....
The EU told them NO... then got greased and lubed up and caved...shows that the EU is just, as if not more, corrupt than us.... $!$!$!($! American's! Next time take a good look in the mirror!
OpenOffice is another area.... after SHOVING IT DOWN THE THROAT of as many as I can, deleting any thing else, refusing to accept anything but ODS, CSV, or ODT... its now going to come for naught. The plans to charge for this I am sure are in the works... its coming.... talk about killing the golden goose!
The writing is on the wall... Anything from Sun that doesn't make $$$ is TOAST! This is the shot across the bow! Take head... the subs are enroute to sink Java, MySQL, NetBeans, OpenSolaris, and Solaris...
>Delphi on Linux? DVDFab? DVDLabPro? Camtasia? The S.T.A.L.K.E.R. videogames? Vector NTI?
I don't use them, so who cares. If your going to ask lame questions about some program written for a DIFFERENT OS, whats the point. Find a Linux equal/equivalent, or you've answered your own question stay on the w virOS.
>no support for my Logitech webcams in the Linux kernel, at least not on Ubuntu 9.10
Hmmm... I use KMint and some Logitech Quickam or something works, it was cheap and I possibly needed a web cam, but the need went a way. All it needs is a little tweaking to get the color etc. set, but since I don't use it any way.. I am not putting the effort to get it tweaked.
Can't tell you about the video cameras, have not owned one since one of those original VHS camcorders that were all so popular... just don't have the need...
>In order for me to switch from any microsoft OS I need: >-Direct Dirtect X Gaming support >-Backwards copatability with games >-Improvements in performance over Windows OS.
Then you WON'T BE USING Linux, and I have no problem with that..
Games = NO LINUX FOR YOU. Which is fine with me.
The green field is over there... thanks for visiting.
Matt. you *HAD* the PERFECT opportunity to answer the questions posed to you from hard core Linux users, and blew it...
I've been waiting for these response since the questions posting.....I am VERY DISAPPOINTED, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
1) KDE - "...to ensure your views are heard and the Ubuntu distribution remains one that you will enjoy using. "
You heard what WE, and I had to say on gnome...WE WANT KDE! KDE KDE ! KDE!
You chose to dismiss and ignore it.
I will continue to use a derivative distro, KMint, as Canoncial has made it clear they do not and will create a quality distro, a quality KDE distro, even with its move to KDE 4.x (ick).
Your own Kubnutu distro I have not been able to reliably boot in over 2 years. TWO YEARS! Theres no quality to this heap of trash! DITCH IT! You want to know what a quality KDE distro is head over to http://www.linuxmint.com/ and look at KMint. The KDE team there works wonders with what they get from Kubuntu. You should take note.
I have. My opinion, as its voice towards KDE, will be ignored.
2) Sound - "Works for me."
Again, dismissive, and not the path to take, especially for the new guy. FIX THE SOUND! DUMP pulse! I've found that your own community has done what, you Cannoncial has not, UPDATED the ALSA drivers to CURRENT version to solve the problems with the prevalent "HDA" chipsets. GET THIS DONE.
3) mono - Was not asked, so not answered...
You need to set this disease free.. Thankfully the KMint team REMOVES THIS disease and so should you. Its a shame that editors didn't wish to put the hardballs out there.
In summary, very disappointed, and I will not be looking to Canoncial for what I need in Linux, instead I will look to the KMint team to continue to produce what I want.
Disappointing, disappointing. Your chance to get off on the right foot, is gone.
"Indeed, but GNOME is infuriating. The user interface sucks.. full stop."
Fixed that.... KDE is by the FAR AND ABOVE the SUPERIOR X WM...till KDE 4.x, when they screwed it up, possibly been repair.
I seriously don't appreciate that you prefer a tainted and inferior X WM, and don't agree with any poll that includes a tainted WM to start.
Nope. Just mono and wine... no need for wine...Linux has plenty of native apps to handle what wine might bring, but who wants to have safe, but never lock it.
mono is just bad period, and nothing but an eventual hook for legal action.
"Valentine's Day chocolates? a common problem for the Slashdot crowd."
What is this Valentines Day? What does it have to with chocolate? ?
I think your new here, as that not on the list of IT holidays...
And there is NEVER left over chocolate, err.. REAL chocolate.. not that crap Hershey stuff (AND NO I don't buy Cadbury in the US! I know its licensed to be made by Hershey.. I have importers bring in the REAL CADBURYS!)
Just like beer if its made in the US, its junk. Same goes for chocolate.
Want cheap chocoloate, purchase all the Hershey you want.
1) When will you release a truly up to the job KDE Release, or even better, FIRE the ENTIRE KUBUNTU dev team and hire Boo and the dev's from KMint aka Linux Mint KDE CE.
They clean up Kubuntu's crap distro each and every release and make it PERFECT, KDE 4.x aside, PERFECT! ! !
KDE needs to be the DEFAULT and only main desktop.. Offer lxde, xfce etc. for the tasks and areas they are suited for, gnome needs to go!
2) When will you REMOVE mono and gnome and miguel who is tainting your distro with his programs and DE? mono has no place in any distro, period. mono and miguel need to go! Now is the time! New COO, New X DE, clean house and get the disease out of the distro!
3) How do you plan to make software installs easier for users to encourage migration from that other os?
4) How are you going to curb the "google is your friend" and the "When are you going the fix or feature code then?" attitudes that hamper desktop Linux adoption.
5) Whats you plan and vision for Linux in general and Ubuntu specifically for the next year, 5, 10 years?
Slashdot Mirror
Anything else is anti-American and facist, communist or any other term you want to apply to it
Unless your can split your self into 6 different persons, then you get ONE PHYSICAL VOTE.
The top six candidates get the 6 open positions, with the highest vote getter being the president/chairman.
Oh... and for that community... ENGLISH is the language of the land! REMOVE THAT OTHER CRAP from your ballot!
My migration plan and path is L I N U X.
No more w virus allowed... I already have two brand new machines coming that I have to wipe clean and then put XP back on them (I can reimage them cheaper than the vendor, and they would do it at a cost..almost 50% of one machine, no thanks). .. we don't support any thing else till we migrate over..
LTSP clients off a LTSP server... still working setups out...
We no longer will be supporting anything related to ms... we have already drawn the line with office work products...
Spreadsheets must be in either OO format, or CSV for non formula/formatted ones or data exchange. If you can't handle OO if you need the formulas etc.. your out of luck.
word processing must be in OO format, we don't accept it otherwise.
" In the end it will make it to the screen because everyone, absolutely everyone, wants this."
You would be wrong, sir.
I don't... and I didn't want the first 3 waste of film and DVD's...
I really don't get the connection to these dreadful books and the [nerd|geek]dom...
Let me help you out... 3 pitches, 3 strikes.. your out...
http://www.konqueror.org/
Comes with a clean and secure OS at:
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=28
Dear Ryan Gavin,
This will inform you that I've done MY PART to rid my systems of IE6!
I installed Linux which eradicated all the other crap and crud on my systems and others.
So you can take 20 installs of IE6 off the list.
PS: Let that chair throwing monkey boss of yours know his OS got the boot too!
the more sales of crapple crap will slip through his hands....
Don't own, don't use crapple and will never will.
If any ones world is slipping away its crapple...
squeeze harder while you can joboi...
1) No more patents
2) No more trademarks
3) No more copyright
4) No more intellectual property rights
5) invalidate all existing of the above
In the 21st century none of these make sense any more time for them to go!
Whine, cry, and moan all you want... until the above happens this mess is only going to get worse...
Any of you think that the mpeg gestapo (thats what they are) is going to do anything but come for $$$ later is foolish.
I can't stand mozilla and its programs..but in this instance I agree. NO h.264! NO WAY NO HOW!
as much as crapple is just that crap... the no flash stance is a good move, OTHERS SHOULD FOLLOW! flash is bad, and it needs to go too!
So flame on.....
You obviously have no clue what VMWare Server, VMWare Player, and VMWare ESXi are... There is NO TRIAL PERIOD. They are ALL, 100% FREE. ZERO COST. NO MONEY. NONE.
Sign up and get as many keys as you can slurp...
Workstation may have a trial, don't know, don't care. Never investigated it...Its a paid product.
I get no emails from VMWare that I don't want...I've attended several FREE EVENTS and picked up some great stuff for FREE. Not a one tries to sell me any thing.... again if you are refering to VMW Workstation...that is a paid product to start.
ESXi is a HYPERVISOR v. the Server and Player.
VMWare is the PIONEER and MARKET LEADER of virtualization, any thing else is just trying to CATCH UP.
The only cost is if you want fancy schmancy things like VMotion etc... in an enterprise setting that may be of use or need... but in the small to medium company they are not needed.
virtualbox is garbage... from its USB support to many other features... which VMWare Player, Server and ESXi put it to shame.
Won't matter its not going to around much longer unless your paying for it!
Its obvious that your one of the few people around here to have clue....but.... the writing has been on the wall...
Oracle has taken the Standard Play #1 from the ms play book.... embrace, extend, extinguish... in the event that fails... purchase your rivals and close them down.
Solaris -> NO more free licenses! BYE, BYE!
Java -> kiss it goodbye!
MySQL -> KISS IT GOODBYE! ! ! Monty told you so! You heard it here! (Not first)
Netbeans -> See ya!
OpenSolaris -> Dead... Will have to be taken over by the community.
virtualbox -> surprised they have not announced its death already... ITS TOAST!
OpenOffice -> this is going to be golden goose that oracle kills.
I've already stopped all potential use of java for development and use of the NetBeans IDE and related services.... due to its forthcoming demise...
MySQL, same thing... I am looking at where to move... I am not a PostgreSQL fan....but may have little choice for something to fill the MySQL space....
The EU told them NO... then got greased and lubed up and caved...shows that the EU is just, as if not more, corrupt than us.... $!$!$!($! American's! Next time take a good look in the mirror!
OpenOffice is another area.... after SHOVING IT DOWN THE THROAT of as many as I can, deleting any thing else, refusing to accept anything but ODS, CSV, or ODT... its now going to come for naught. The plans to charge for this I am sure are in the works... its coming.... talk about killing the golden goose!
The writing is on the wall... Anything from Sun that doesn't make $$$ is TOAST! This is the shot across the bow! Take head... the subs are enroute to sink Java, MySQL, NetBeans, OpenSolaris, and Solaris...
This was a bad merger to approve, period.
SUN MicroSystems (SUN), RIP.
You want virtualization you get VMWare, period. Nothing else comes close, and the price is right. $ZERO. For Server, Player and ESXi...
If you want more advanced features then your can purchase ESX and its various support programs.
>This is a known fact, can we stop pretending its "stuff that matters?"
Seriously???? This does not matter?? ??
You've obviously given in to the FlavorAde....
This DOES MATTER and its proof yet again, why not to purchase anything crApple..
14minutes and counting for the latest icrap fest...
checklist:
1) Tar..... check!
2) Feather.... check!
3) Pitchfork...check!
4) Torch.......check!
I am ready......
Goodbye lusers! And from the comments you managed to piss of most of your user base... GOOD MOVE!
EPIC FAILURE!
Next!
they DUMP miguel mono boi and his crap!
I wouldn't touch them with a 10000ft pole. Huge legal liability with that mess.
Plus it would take so much to clean up SLES and OpenSUSE to restore it back to its previous stature as a top of the line distro.
When you dump miguel mono boi, then you might be worth more than US $0.000001/cents.
>Delphi on Linux? DVDFab? DVDLabPro? Camtasia? The S.T.A.L.K.E.R. videogames? Vector NTI?
I don't use them, so who cares. If your going to ask lame questions about some program written for a DIFFERENT OS, whats the point. Find a Linux equal/equivalent, or you've answered your own question stay on the w virOS.
>no support for my Logitech webcams in the Linux kernel, at least not on Ubuntu 9.10
Hmmm... I use KMint and some Logitech Quickam or something works, it was cheap and I possibly needed a web cam, but the need went a way. All it needs is a little tweaking to get the color etc. set, but since I don't use it any way.. I am not putting the effort to get it tweaked.
Can't tell you about the video cameras, have not owned one since one of those original VHS camcorders that were all so popular... just don't have the need...
>In order for me to switch from any microsoft OS I need:
>-Direct Dirtect X Gaming support
>-Backwards copatability with games
>-Improvements in performance over Windows OS.
Then you WON'T BE USING Linux, and I have no problem with that..
Games = NO LINUX FOR YOU. Which is fine with me.
The green field is over there... thanks for visiting.
Matt. you *HAD* the PERFECT opportunity to answer the questions posed to you from hard core Linux users, and blew it...
I've been waiting for these response since the questions posting.....I am VERY DISAPPOINTED, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
1) KDE - "...to ensure your views are heard and the Ubuntu distribution remains one that you will enjoy using. "
You heard what WE, and I had to say on gnome...WE WANT KDE! KDE KDE ! KDE!
You chose to dismiss and ignore it.
I will continue to use a derivative distro, KMint, as Canoncial has made it clear they do not and will create a quality distro, a quality KDE distro, even with its move to KDE 4.x (ick).
Your own Kubnutu distro I have not been able to reliably boot in over 2 years. TWO YEARS! Theres no quality to this heap of trash! DITCH IT! You want to know what a quality KDE distro is head over to http://www.linuxmint.com/ and look at KMint. The KDE team there works wonders with what they get from Kubuntu. You should take note.
I have. My opinion, as its voice towards KDE, will be ignored.
2) Sound - "Works for me."
Again, dismissive, and not the path to take, especially for the new guy. FIX THE SOUND! DUMP pulse! I've found that your own community has done what, you Cannoncial has not, UPDATED the ALSA drivers to CURRENT version to solve the problems with the prevalent "HDA" chipsets. GET THIS DONE.
3) mono - Was not asked, so not answered...
You need to set this disease free.. Thankfully the KMint team REMOVES THIS disease and so should you. Its a shame that editors didn't wish to put the hardballs out there.
In summary, very disappointed, and I will not be looking to Canoncial for what I need in Linux, instead I will look to the KMint team to continue to produce what I want.
Disappointing, disappointing. Your chance to get off on the right foot, is gone.
>Anyone else agree or disagree?
>Discuss... what kind of punishment should this yield?
Some thing far more terminal, painful, and with extreme prejudice, and being Texas I think the residents are probably well equipped to handle it.
Get KMint Elyssa - aka Linux Minut KDE CE - Elyssa
You will do well to SKIP KDE 4.x till KDE rights the ship back to the stability and features of 3.5.10
KMint includes EVERYTHING YOU NEED:
Java, Sun Java, not the useless openjava
flash
codec
OpenOffice
Everything you need to get up and going ready for you.
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=28
"Indeed, but GNOME is infuriating. The user interface sucks.. full stop." Fixed that.... KDE is by the FAR AND ABOVE the SUPERIOR X WM...till KDE 4.x, when they screwed it up, possibly been repair. I seriously don't appreciate that you prefer a tainted and inferior X WM, and don't agree with any poll that includes a tainted WM to start.
I shouldn't have to sanitize Linux. Thats why I use Linux instead of that other OS.
Nope. Just mono and wine... no need for wine.. .Linux has plenty of native apps to handle what wine might bring, but who wants to have safe, but never lock it.
mono is just bad period, and nothing but an eventual hook for legal action.
"Valentine's Day chocolates? a common problem for the Slashdot crowd."
What is this Valentines Day? What does it have to with chocolate? ?
I think your new here, as that not on the list of IT holidays...
And there is NEVER left over chocolate, err.. REAL chocolate.. not that crap Hershey stuff (AND NO I don't buy Cadbury in the US! I know its licensed to be made by Hershey.. I have importers bring in the REAL CADBURYS!)
Just like beer if its made in the US, its junk. Same goes for chocolate.
Want cheap chocoloate, purchase all the Hershey you want.
Never heard of it. Enough said.
NO! These need to be REMOVED from the distro.
mono is tainted from the start, and is nothing but a future huge legal liability.
wine is also just asking for trouble in providing possible hooks for all kinds of malware, it too needs to go.
We do not need anything but native apps on Linux.
1) When will you release a truly up to the job KDE Release, or even better, FIRE the ENTIRE KUBUNTU dev team and hire Boo and the dev's from KMint aka Linux Mint KDE CE.
They clean up Kubuntu's crap distro each and every release and make it PERFECT, KDE 4.x aside, PERFECT! ! !
KDE needs to be the DEFAULT and only main desktop.. Offer lxde, xfce etc. for the tasks and areas they are suited for, gnome needs to go!
2) When will you REMOVE mono and gnome and miguel who is tainting your distro with his programs and DE? mono has no place in any distro, period. mono and miguel need to go! Now is the time! New COO, New X DE, clean house and get the disease out of the distro!
3) How do you plan to make software installs easier for users to encourage migration from that other os?
4) How are you going to curb the "google is your friend" and the "When are you going the fix or feature code then?" attitudes that hamper desktop Linux adoption.
5) Whats you plan and vision for Linux in general and Ubuntu specifically for the next year, 5, 10 years?