Saying that organization and order can only come from centralism sounds a little, well, ideologically loaded coming from the brother of John Negroponte, the former US Ambassador to Honduras who seems to have formed the opinion that the best way to establish order in fractious Latin countries was to tacitly allow strong men and dictators to terrorise, torture and kill the populace.
And now John Negroponte is Bush's choice for next Ambassador to Iraq, where it seems the current US administration obviously feels a little torture and a few disappeared people is one way to restore "order". How convenient!
As I read more about this tempest in a blogcup, for some reason the baseline to 10000 Screaming Faggots kept going through my head. I think I'm off to Soulseek for a quick download...
you specifically said someone else came to market first with an HD based mp3 player. That was incorrect
Maybe we are dealing with different definitions of what "brought to market" means. I recall that the HanGo was sold for the first couple of years as a mail-order only product, whereas Archos managed to get their product into Best Buy and other retailers, around the same time as the Nomad became available retail.
No, they're not. CD players are constrained by the dimensions of the 120mm diameter spinning disk and it was perhaps the popularity of this form factor that influenced Creative to go with a 127x127mm form factor for their first HD nomad in 2000.
However, the earlier Compaq (150x80mm) and Archos (115x83mm) recognized that a longer, thinner form factor would suit many people better.
Inclosing I'd like to note that I generally wear combats ("cargo pants") so perhaps my available pocket storage is higher than many people's...
I think you're being a bit willful about disbelieveing that Apple PR people would *ever* dare to mis-reprepresent or exaggerate...
Anyway, I note from the initial Mossberg promo piece in the WSJ: "As for battery life, Apple claims 10 hours, but in my tests the iPod repeatedly got nearly 12 hours."
Ah how times change. There was an iPod once upon a time that got 12 hours on a charge!
You're wrong. What kind of weak arse tiny pockets do you have?
I think all the HD portables from 2000/2001 fit easily within pockets, except possibly the Compaq. I've never seen one up close, but from the marketing copy photos it looks kind of bulky, a bit like an old Apple Newton.
Compaq licensed their technology out and it was appeared on the market in mid 00 (around May) via the PJB100 from the company HanGo.
I did mention the Compaq, I'm sorry I didn't mention it enough for your tastes.
It does seem comical to me that HP today ("Invent") is paying to licence the iPod from Apple (who in turn licence most of it from PortalPlayer). SO HP is in effect paying extra for a third-hand technology trickle-down. When they've had the crown jewels (PATENTS!) sitting in their corporate vaults for years.
I think if you analyze Apple's advertising you will find they frequently claimn to be "first" or "fastest" with their products. It's part of their marketing DNA. It's to make the mass market consumers who buy their products feel warm and fuzzy about paying a premium to be on the "cutting edge" and feel a sense of belonging to a "digerati".
Before apple did it no one cared.
I think if you look back you'll find a lot of people cared, especially here on/. and other early adopter sites. I think what you're really saying is that you didn't care, or know about the benefits of HD portables until Apple told you. What do you know, marketing works!
Then again, many uninformed consumers ass-ume AOL invented email and the Internet...
Apple was the first to develop a successful hard drive based MP3 player, so they're historically significant. Archos is a footnote to history.
This article purports to be a history of convergence innovation. Stating that the iPod came out of Apple fully formed, as if like Athena springing forth fully formed from the head of Zeus, does a disservice to the dozens of innovative companies that were beavering away on hard disk/mp3 player hybrids. But it does fit in well with the Messiah Complex discourse around Steve Jobs.
The earlier HD-based mp3 players were successful and enjoyed rapid adoption within the early adopter market. Apple's late entry was targetted towards the mass market and so their seemingly rapid adoption rode on the coattails of the early players that had primed the market.
Graphing the adoption curve of the iPod as a single device makes little sense and looks skewed when you compare it with, say, the adoption curve for DVD players. This is because those graphs of DVD players aggregate all the brands and not just a single brand. If we took out all the early DVD players and simply graphed the success of, say, Apex from 2001 onwards then we would see an iPod-like rapidity of adoption.
Consider a couple of the pioneers. With the iPod music player, Apple Computer added a tiny hard drive to a music-playing computer and -- voilá! -- vast music collections suddenly fit into a pocket.
The quantity of historical revisionism in what passes for business journalism never ceases to amaze me. Goebbels would be proud!
Archos was first company to market with a hard drive-based mp3 player in late 2000, although Compaq had a prototype device in early 2000 that they failed to market. There was even an open-source project to build a "High Capacity MP3 Player" in 2000 that quickly advanced to using hard drives.
Yawn. These convergence hype stories were more fun back in the 1990s when people were talking about the convergence of tech and sex. Teledildonics stories were always good for a laugh. This stuff is just plain dull.
The most successful convergence device in recent history remains the clock-radio.
Supposedly Windows doesn't allow RAIDing of Firewire or USB drives. I have not personally tried this, I only have one external Firewire drive.
That's what they want you to believe.
The sticking point is that oob Windows won't let you "promote" a USB/Firewire drive from Basic to Advanced, and MS removed the abaility of Basic disks to do striping or mirroring post-NT4.
But you can do a quick registry fix to enable external disk promotion. Once flagged as dynamic, Firewire or USB disks can be RAIDed within the Disk Manager.
One flaw is that the registry fix has no effect on Windows 2000. The workaround is to promote the disks on XP/2003, then mount them within a directory on Windows 2000 (ie, not a letter-based mountpoint). You can then RAID them. I use these for backup all the time.
To convert an IEEE 1394 disk drive to a dynamic disk drive:
Start Registry Editor (Regedit.exe).
Locate and click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Dmadmin\Parameters\ EnableDynamicConversionFor1394
On the Edit menu, click Modify, and then change the Value Data field to a value of 1.
Quit Registry Editor.
If you've ever been at house parties hosted by early Googlers and filled mostly with herds of Google people endlessly yakking Googlespeak at each other, then you'd know that "An Army of PhDs" is very, very, very far from desirable in some circumstances.
If you got yourself some REALLY GOOD headphones like the shure E3s I'm using with my iPod you wouldn't need to crank your Archos really loud.
Thanks but I have several Grado cans I like for personal use. I'll take Grado over Shure anyday.
But if you are at a party and want to plug in to a real sound system, either for recording or playback, believe me, you want to use a digital interconnect. Especially if you haven't had time to isolate all the analog connections.
I don't think there's an iPod with digital IO or hi-fi recording, so many iPodders probably don't even realise that they are lacking high-quality output.
portable encoding mp3 jukebox with optical IO as the world is mostly made up of non-geeks.
I think everyone, geek and non-geek, "gets it" when you can play back your files REALLY LOUD without any analog hum. I can plug in my Archos using analog or digital, and the difference in both quality and noise reduction is startling.
I wish Replay would make one of these portables to leverage their PVRs. It is a logical extension. Simply put the portable on the network and download the programs you already regularly record on your PVR.
You can already do this. Copy the files from the RTV with DVArchive. Process through ReVUE. Transcode down to Archos format. Copy over to the Archos. Here's someone who does RTV->Archos regularly.
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Saying that organization and order can only come from centralism sounds a little, well, ideologically loaded coming from the brother of John Negroponte, the former US Ambassador to Honduras who seems to have formed the opinion that the best way to establish order in fractious Latin countries was to tacitly allow strong men and dictators to terrorise, torture and kill the populace.
And now John Negroponte is Bush's choice for next Ambassador to Iraq, where it seems the current US administration obviously feels a little torture and a few disappeared people is one way to restore "order". How convenient!
I mean how do you trust totally unknown people to transfer your data/food/whatever between any two points?
This happens every day when I drop mail into the postbox. Or when I buy a banana in the local market.
As I read more about this tempest in a blogcup, for some reason the baseline to 10000 Screaming Faggots kept going through my head. I think I'm off to Soulseek for a quick download...
This is the funniest thing I've read in days!
you specifically said someone else came to market first with an HD based mp3 player. That was incorrect
Maybe we are dealing with different definitions of what "brought to market" means. I recall that the HanGo was sold for the first couple of years as a mail-order only product, whereas Archos managed to get their product into Best Buy and other retailers, around the same time as the Nomad became available retail.
Where and when was the HanGo sold at retail?
they're the same size as a portable CD player.
No, they're not. CD players are constrained by the dimensions of the 120mm diameter spinning disk and it was perhaps the popularity of this form factor that influenced Creative to go with a 127x127mm form factor for their first HD nomad in 2000.
However, the earlier Compaq (150x80mm) and Archos (115x83mm) recognized that a longer, thinner form factor would suit many people better.
Inclosing I'd like to note that I generally wear combats ("cargo pants") so perhaps my available pocket storage is higher than many people's...
I think you're being a bit willful about disbelieveing that Apple PR people would *ever* dare to mis-reprepresent or exaggerate...
Anyway, I note from the initial Mossberg promo piece in the WSJ: "As for battery life, Apple claims 10 hours, but in my tests the iPod repeatedly got nearly 12 hours."
Ah how times change. There was an iPod once upon a time that got 12 hours on a charge!
The Archos Jukebox didn't fit into a pocket.
You're wrong. What kind of weak arse tiny pockets do you have?
I think all the HD portables from 2000/2001 fit easily within pockets, except possibly the Compaq. I've never seen one up close, but from the marketing copy photos it looks kind of bulky, a bit like an old Apple Newton.
Compaq licensed their technology out and it was appeared on the market in mid 00 (around May) via the PJB100 from the company HanGo.
I did mention the Compaq, I'm sorry I didn't mention it enough for your tastes.
It does seem comical to me that HP today ("Invent") is paying to licence the iPod from Apple (who in turn licence most of it from PortalPlayer). SO HP is in effect paying extra for a third-hand technology trickle-down. When they've had the crown jewels (PATENTS!) sitting in their corporate vaults for years.
It doesn't claim to be the first one.
/. and other early adopter sites. I think what you're really saying is that you didn't care, or know about the benefits of HD portables until Apple told you. What do you know, marketing works!
I think if you analyze Apple's advertising you will find they frequently claimn to be "first" or "fastest" with their products. It's part of their marketing DNA. It's to make the mass market consumers who buy their products feel warm and fuzzy about paying a premium to be on the "cutting edge" and feel a sense of belonging to a "digerati".
Before apple did it no one cared.
I think if you look back you'll find a lot of people cared, especially here on
Then again, many uninformed consumers ass-ume AOL invented email and the Internet...
Apple was the first to develop a successful hard drive based MP3 player, so they're historically significant. Archos is a footnote to history.
This article purports to be a history of convergence innovation. Stating that the iPod came out of Apple fully formed, as if like Athena springing forth fully formed from the head of Zeus, does a disservice to the dozens of innovative companies that were beavering away on hard disk/mp3 player hybrids. But it does fit in well with the Messiah Complex discourse around Steve Jobs.
The earlier HD-based mp3 players were successful and enjoyed rapid adoption within the early adopter market. Apple's late entry was targetted towards the mass market and so their seemingly rapid adoption rode on the coattails of the early players that had primed the market.
Graphing the adoption curve of the iPod as a single device makes little sense and looks skewed when you compare it with, say, the adoption curve for DVD players. This is because those graphs of DVD players aggregate all the brands and not just a single brand. If we took out all the early DVD players and simply graphed the success of, say, Apex from 2001 onwards then we would see an iPod-like rapidity of adoption.
Consider a couple of the pioneers. With the iPod music player, Apple Computer added a tiny hard drive to a music-playing computer and -- voilá! -- vast music collections suddenly fit into a pocket.
The quantity of historical revisionism in what passes for business journalism never ceases to amaze me. Goebbels would be proud!
Archos was first company to market with a hard drive-based mp3 player in late 2000, although Compaq had a prototype device in early 2000 that they failed to market. There was even an open-source project to build a "High Capacity MP3 Player" in 2000 that quickly advanced to using hard drives.
Yawn. These convergence hype stories were more fun back in the 1990s when people were talking about the convergence of tech and sex. Teledildonics stories were always good for a laugh. This stuff is just plain dull.
The most successful convergence device in recent history remains the clock-radio.
Supposedly Windows doesn't allow RAIDing of Firewire or USB drives. I have not personally tried this, I only have one external Firewire drive.
c es\Dmadmin\Parameters\
That's what they want you to believe.
The sticking point is that oob Windows won't let you "promote" a USB/Firewire drive from Basic to Advanced, and MS removed the abaility of Basic disks to do striping or mirroring post-NT4.
But you can do a quick registry fix to enable external disk promotion. Once flagged as dynamic, Firewire or USB disks can be RAIDed within the Disk Manager.
One flaw is that the registry fix has no effect on Windows 2000. The workaround is to promote the disks on XP/2003, then mount them within a directory on Windows 2000 (ie, not a letter-based mountpoint). You can then RAID them. I use these for backup all the time.
HOW TO: Convert an IEEE 1394 Disk Drive to a Dynamic Disk Drive in Windows XP
To convert an IEEE 1394 disk drive to a dynamic disk drive:
Start Registry Editor (Regedit.exe).
Locate and click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servi
EnableDynamicConversionFor1394
On the Edit menu, click Modify, and then change the Value Data field to a value of 1.
Quit Registry Editor.
My library is 700GB+ and Media Center doesn't even break a sweat.
no taxation without representation!
Tell that to the H1-Bs and resident aliens.
If you've ever been at house parties hosted by early Googlers and filled mostly with herds of Google people endlessly yakking Googlespeak at each other, then you'd know that "An Army of PhDs" is very, very, very far from desirable in some circumstances.
The screen size is the same (QVGA).
Thanks.
There are *far* too many nVGA acronyms these days.
If you got yourself some REALLY GOOD headphones like the shure E3s I'm using with my iPod you wouldn't need to crank your Archos really loud.
Thanks but I have several Grado cans I like for personal use. I'll take Grado over Shure anyday.
But if you are at a party and want to plug in to a real sound system, either for recording or playback, believe me, you want to use a digital interconnect. Especially if you haven't had time to isolate all the analog connections.
I don't think there's an iPod with digital IO or hi-fi recording, so many iPodders probably don't even realise that they are lacking high-quality output.
Windows versions prior to 3.1 were useless, except for Reversi.
Windows 2 also had a cool scrolling starield desktop option, which was kind of trippy for the late 1980s.
portable encoding mp3 jukebox with optical IO as the world is mostly made up of non-geeks.
I think everyone, geek and non-geek, "gets it" when you can play back your files REALLY LOUD without any analog hum. I can plug in my Archos using analog or digital, and the difference in both quality and noise reduction is startling.
How else to explain Groundskeeper Willie's despairing cry when he realises that Homer and Bart have siphoned away the school's frying grease...
Mr. Jobs has already said people don't want to watch videos on their 3" screen.
Steve Jobs also said people would never want to have hard disks in their Macs. Take everything he says with a healthy dose of cynicism.
I wish Replay would make one of these portables to leverage their PVRs. It is a logical extension. Simply put the portable on the network and download the programs you already regularly record on your PVR.
You can already do this. Copy the files from the RTV with DVArchive. Process through ReVUE. Transcode down to Archos format. Copy over to the Archos. Here's someone who does RTV->Archos regularly.