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60GB iPod Coming?
An anonymous reader writes "Toshiba today announced that it will offer a 60GB version of its 1.8-inch hard drive in the coming months and that Apple has already placed its order. Cindy Lee, deputy manager of Toshiba's hard disk drive division, said the drive will enter mass production during July or August. All three iPod models (15GB, 20GB, and 40GB) use Toshiba drives, while the iPod mini uses a 4GB 1-inch drive from Hitachi. Lee noted that Toshiba is currently shipping 350,000 of the 1.8-inch drives per month to Apple."
I can;t even fill my 30Gb Nomad. What the hell are you going to do with 60Gb?
So me not particularly ecstatic.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
I have to upgrade my 40g ipod already!?!
Im only hovering on 5g of songs!
I have almost 10 GB of music on my pc. I only listen to about 50 of them on a regualr basis. Does anyone really need 60 GB of music. Yes it can be used for backup purposes. But dedicated backup external hard drives at a higher storage capacity are cheaper than this.
I wonder what kind of breakthrough the mini drive will get in the near future. 4gigs is a decent size for a music player, but what if someone wants to use it for back-up purposes? It would be something if Hitachi came out with a 10gig mini cf card that could still be price-attractive to the consumer point of view!
Seems perfectly timed to coincide with MacWorld. So that's two announcements we know about now - Tiger and the 60 GB iPod. Wonder what the surprise will be. 3.0 G5s? G5 notebooks? iPonies?
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I mean, if someone has, like myself, that much music available... wouldn't it be more more handy to store it on a computer than with the player? Player breaks up, bye bye music and so on. And is the extra capacity really worth the price?
I usually tend to think the player's storage capacity in relation to how much music I would be needing before having a chance to load other music to the player thingy. 60gb?? 4gb Creative Muvo sounds about right in that sense.
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apple has already placed orders for the 60 gig hard drives.
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peter
will this bring a price drop to the smaller capacity iPods?
The Technonaut
for those complaining about not being able to fill the HD, the easiest way to use the space is to reencode the music you already have.
just with some quick calculations i did on my own, saving your music as in a lossless format uses approx. 5x as much space as a 256kb MP3.
so only 12GB of mp3's will give you your 60GB of music.
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Does Apple have any plans to beef up their offerings, or are they counting on consumers to keep paying for the iPod's hipster image?
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The price of small-factor drives on the retail market have such a markup that their are actually some music players out there that have a street price lower than the street price of the drive that they contain inside... this is possible because the device-makers are buying the drives on the wholesale market in bulk rather than one at a time.
But it brings up an interesting point... right now there are far more digital music players out there on the market than there are makers of small-factor HDs.
Wow, not only did you uphold the Slashdot tradition of not RTFA, you didn't even RTFBlurb. Both mention Apple has already placed an order for this drive. So explain how they won't be able to sell these to Apple when they already have.
My music collection is about 1500 CDs... I ripped them to AIFFs in iTunes and compress to other formats as necessary, as codecs (esp. Lame and Quicktime) improve (I use iTunes-Lame for MP3 compression). This translates to about 160 GB of 160 Kbps AACs. So this is big news for me - I'll be able to fit everything on 3 iPods instead of 4.
I'll be really psyched when 80 GBs are available, and then (dream dream) it'll take a 160 GB iPod to make me really, really happy.
This might not seem like a big deal, but when I'm travelling, especially when I'm flying my Cherokee 180-D across country, I won't be able to anticipate what I'll really want to listen to - and I invariably want to hear something that I didn't bring along.
And if you think iPods are expensive, you should price avionics on an airplane. Or really just about anything on an airplane.
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Anyone notice that "Lee noted that Toshiba is currently shipping 350,000" but Apple are stepping up production from 800,000 to 1,000,000 per month...where are all the other drives sourced from?
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So is Apple ever going to drop the pricing on the other models when they come out with more "advanced" ones?
The more you know, the less you understand.
first, there are a lot of people with more than 40 gigs of music.... second, the iPod is also a firewire drive. it can be used for transporting large files (graphics, audio, video, whatever). it is also possible to boot off of OS X installed on the iPod, so you can dump your whole HD on there. The early lists of 10.3 features mentioned a feature called "home on iPod" that later vanished. it seemed you could copy/sync your whole home dir onto your ipod and login to it from any OS X running Mac. if that's really coming, the more space for music AND home dir, the better.
Something I've always wondered: just how resistant are these HDs to (physical) shocks? If you drop an iPod while it's reading from the disk, for example, will it still work or will you be left with a worthless chunk of metal and plastic? Portable devices tend to get a lot of wear and tear, so I'd tend to stay away from anything using such a seemingly fragile storage medium.
Sure hope that this does not infringe on some Microsoft patent... They just might have a patent on "a mobile computing device with capacity greater than 50 gigabytes"... These days, you just never know.
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I totally agree. All of my music only takes up 25% of my 20GB iPod. Most of the rest is a backup of my home directory, plus a smallish bootable OS X system and a few apps.
It's not the fastest firewire drive on the turnpike, but it rocks in terms of dual-use. Came in quite handy when I wanted to repartition and put Yellow Dog Linux alongside OS X on my Powerbook.
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The iPod is a different thing. It's just a music player with some storage and a cool look. It's the kind of thing that can be designed fairly easily. It requires the iTunes service, but that's also something which any company can set up for not too much money. I guess it gives Apple some "cred" but it also sets Apple up to be priced out of the market when iPod-like things become commodities. Just wondering... Do any iPod users have thoughts on this?
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Of course, 60 gigabytes won't be easy to fill with .mp3 files. I've got maybe 250 CDs collected over the years, and with every one of them ripped I've yet to fill half of my 30 Gb iPod. Until I started collecting audio books.
The real utility of a .mp3 player with that much capacity is the ability to hold multible audio books and audio periodicals. I've come to realize how nice it is to have something to listen to while I'm on break or on a flight that isn't the 30-favorite songs that everyone ends up playing no matter how many .mp3 files they've got. Audio book files are quite large, and to be able to store them and your collection of music files requires drives big enough to be pretty much overkill for music alone.
Sure most MP3 collections span only a few gigabytes on a typical harddrive. I couldn't fill up a 15gig iPod if I tried (damn logic trying to stop me from buying one).
But a full size movie collection could make much better use of the extra space. Could this be an indication of the a/v iPod to come?
Lets get this out of the way:
1. 60GB?!? Who would ever use that much space?
2. 60GB?!? Thank god, I'm out of space on my 40GB.
3. Does it support Ogg?
4. Stop whining about Ogg!
5. Apple rules!
6. Apple sucks/is dying/is out of touch!
7. Imagine a Beowulf cluster...
8. The Nomad/Muvo/two cans and a stick are just as good or better.
9. I, for one, welcome our excessive HD space Overlords
10. In Soviet Russia 60GB iPods buy You!
No, he's +4 insightful. Pffffft.
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It's already pretty annoying to use a 40 GB iPod compared to the smaller ones, just due to the larger rotating mass of the hard drive. You can definitely feel the difference. If the 60 GB drive has even more platters/rotational speed than the 40, then I'd say "no, thanks" to it for that reason alone.
.MP3 files, anyway?
Who the hell has 60 GB of (legally acquired)
60GB,who the hell buys that many songs legally?
How many songs is that?
How many hours of music?
You can buy hard drives with rebates for under $50 now. What's going on with the prices ?These microdrives are sexy but the cost $150-200 to manufacture. I don't mind carrying a slightly larger 20 gig model if it's priced right.
Uh, the iPod uses FAT32 or HFS+ depending on which os (Mac OS or Windows) it's used with. That's the way it's always been.
This could be just what you want. Why not rip your music collection using Apple's new Lossless Encoding?
Home away from home
Ever thought you could carry your home in the palm of your hands or in your pocket? You can. Panther's Home on iPod feature lets you store your home directory -- files, folders, apps -- on your iPod (or any FireWire hard drive) and take it with you wherever you go. When you find yourself near a Panther-equipped Mac, just plug in the iPod, log in, and you're "home," no matter where you happen to be. And when you return to your home computer, you can synchronize any changes you've made to your files by using File Sync, which automatically updates offline changes to your home directory.
This is off-topic, but a lot of people are clicking on that link so I need to explain it: Most mobile phones are based on WML instead of HTML, so they could access the site steamymobile.com, and they could use that link. It so happens that Opera has native WML support, so it can access it, too. WML pages on Opera look pretty basic and unformatted, but that's because they're meant to display on a phone, not a browser. Sorry for the off-topic post.
I think you need to do some homework.
/usr/src/sys/ufs ./*
Just because a linux kernel can read UFS doesn't mean it's GPL'd. Almost any unix including commercial ones like Solaris can use UFS. In fact it is the default filesystem used by Solaris. Nowhere does Sun distribute the source to their UFS implementation.
And then there is this:
$ uname -a
FreeBSD xxxx.xxx 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE
$ pwd
$ grep -ir GPL
$
So are the BSD guys violating too? Not likely.
In the past, Apple has negotiated "exclusives" on certain high-demand-although-merely-incremental technologies. A good example would be the Cinema display when it first came out - for at least a year it was the only decent hires (>= 1600x1024) panel you could buy.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see the same thing with higher capacity mini-HDs. Apple's surely willing to pay some premium to be the only ones who can ship a 60G mp3 player.
And I haven't even started in on ripping my vinyl yet.
60GB is about a minimum for me. (right now, my 8060 songs [and I have listened to 'em all] is on a LaCie 160 gigger which is luggable but not really...)
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Not wanting to reply to trolls but just in case anyone actually believes this crap, UFS the filesystem used by BSD systems. If Apple are indeed using this filesystem for the iPod (and it is included in OSX), I'm sure they would be using one of the many BSD implementations and wouldnt bother ripping off a GPL one illegally.....
60 gigs will be nice for imovie drag and drop
But what I want to know, is when is the Rio Karma going to get the ability to work as a normal USB2 hard drive? It seems like a great iPod competitor until you discover that you can only store music files on it, and to get them on you are forced to use the propritary software.
Sure, the java applet works, but that doesn't help me automatically transfer my new files onto the unit, or compare similarly named files to figure out if they are identical, or anything like that.
The Neuros seems like it would be a good option, mainly because it's bigger, and so it would be less expensive, but that's just not the case with the Karma droping down to $200 now.
It's no wonder nobody has really been able to compete with the iPod... They're all only picking up part of the features of the unit, and never enough to be a real alternative.
Okay, sorry, I'm done ranting now. I'd really like an answer if somebody know, though.
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Toshiba and Hitachi must be making a killing.
Because its not a GPL'd file system?
UFS stands for UNIX file system, which was originally developed from the first versions of UNIX at AT&T. The file system reached its current status in the 4.x BSD distributions. It it currently used in FreeBSD, NetBSD as well as OpenBSD and the Solaris Operating Environment. Linux support is available, but is not standard.
Now, take a deep breath and repeat after me. Not all that is open source is GPL.
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Not reading the article I can understand, but not reading the fucking summary?
Toshiba today announced that it will offer a 60GB version of its 1.8-inch hard drive in the coming months and that Apple has already placed its order.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
In Soviet Russia, 60GB doh!
46.3GB of music, and about ten gigs of that's for seeding...
However, seeing as I long ago filled my 15GB iPod, I guess I will upgrade.
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What are you going to do with your terabyte iPod?
I don't think "reputation" is the right word there. It's a major advertised feature that works out of the box, there's nothing reputed about it.
Right, but none of the existing 60 GB players use 1.8" hard drives, because until now there weren't any. Have you seen one of those Nomad players next to an iPod? "Chunky" is a good word to use.
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But the interfaces across the entire range are really poor. The NX has six assorted buttons with one or two actions each, a three-action scroll wheel and the interface from Hell. The thing's just not worth the effort.
"Encrypted backup disk images of digital pictures of friends, family, myself"
Wow. What kinda tinfoil-beanie wearing nutjob do you have to be to encrypt your family photos? Who're your family, the Sopranos or the Bin Ladens?
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No, in fact it's well-known that the iPod is using HFS+. It was a big issue when the iPod first came out, because Linux users were hoping to use it, and Linux has HFS support (but not HFS+).
As for the Windows version of the iPod, I would imagine it's using FAT32, but I don't know that. I find it highly unlikely that Apple would write a UFS filesystem driver for Windows, just for their iPod.
Personally, I would much prefer if they DID use UFS, since UFS is found on every major OS, except Windows. It would be nice to see a Windows UFS driver, so people's external hard drives would not be limited to slow, nasty, fragmenting, wasteful FAT32.
Everyone else has already said that UFS is the BSD-licensed Unix Filesystem, so I'll just skip that part...
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But, sir, you sidestep his point. After all, Linux can mount FAT paritions as well? Oughtn't that obligate Apple to open source... uhhh... what exactly are they supposed to open source, anyway? iPod firmware? Why -- the iPod doesn't format itself... The util they use to format the iPod at the factory? Uhhh -- maybe they use Linux anyway :) ... Whatever formatting program the end user uses to format his iPod however he feels like it because it is just a firewire block device (which happens to play audio on a few filesystems)...
I say mod the gp +1 stupid.
In addition, any of the modern Macs can also boot off the iPod as well. Therefore, I would not be surprised if the next generation of iPod/Mac supports a feature where you can plug in one's iPod into any Mac and it would behave like one's own Mac.
WTF! I've read this post before; moreover, we've all read it before! So stop pasting the same damn inane rediculous post over and over again, you loser!
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Personally, I would much prefer if they DID use UFS, since UFS is found on every major OS, except Windows. It would be nice to see a Windows UFS driver, so people's external hard drives would not be limited to slow, nasty, fragmenting, wasteful FAT32.
Of course we all know this will *never* happen.
In WindowsSpeak (a modern variant of DoubleSpeak from 1984) UFS stands for Unreadable FileSystem.
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I will give a serious thought to buy this, if Apple allows me to use iPod as a Secondary storage device. I can always store some huge zipped files by appending mp3 header. I hope they will give me color options in earphone, iam really scared to walk out with white warphones.
That guy from Harvard was really confused. To further clarify this, UFS refers to the data format of the file system (that is the layout of the bytes of the files on the disk). Anybody can write an independent compatible implementation of UFS that can read or write files in this format. In the same way that you can have multiple implemtations of JPEG readers/writers, you can also have multiple independent impmentations of a UFS file system.
It's looking more and more doubtful that it will happen, but it's still possible. Windows now has EXT2 filesystem support thanks to 3rd parties writing the drivers, so it's possible that someone could write a UFS driver for Windows.
Keep it maintained for 6 months, and you'll start to see UFS become the accepted filesystem. Not long after that, Microsoft will have to integrate UFS into Windows in order to stay compatible and competive with every other OS. Pretty much the same way it happened with TCP/IP.
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Granted the HD does not spin all the time. But I have had incidents where my iPod has been hurled on the floor at great velocity, and also driven along very bumpy roads with a sport suspension and the iPod playing the whole time - and this is the original 5GB model.
I think few things short of a sledge hammer are even going to make the iPod skip, much less harm the drive. I have yet to ever hear the iPod skip for any reason.
I did have a little less luck with a portable photo storage device that used an HD - I was jogging along with it in the lower pocket of my shorts bouncing against my leg while it was writing files from a CF card to the HD. In that case I did manage to get one bad sector on the drive, but that was pretty good considering the abuse it was going through (I wanted to see what extremes it could take for shock while operating). I don't know if that drive (standard laptop drive) was any differently speced than the iPod drive though.
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We're all aware that Apple uses BSD licensed code extensively in their Mac OSX operating system. What we don't know is that the file system that the iPod uses is UFS, a file system that Linux can read. How did I discover this? I removed the hard drive out of my iPod, hooked it up to my IDE controller, and typed
mount -t ufs /dev/hdb /mnt
It is clear that the iPod is using a Linux file system. My question is this:
Why is apple using a GPL'd file system?
One thing seems certain: You're a 'tard.
please mod down.
This guy just copied
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFS
at least he should give a link.
Can we at least try to spell things the right way? Let's have some coherent discourse, and leave the typos at home.
Show the world you care about good communication. Fucking learn to communicate coherently. Classical music my fucking arse, you can't even spell.
My archos was smaller (physically) and bigger in capacity, but it has one advantage over the ipod and all other mp3 players i know of. You plug it in and it just mounts as an external hard drive. No software needed at all to transfer songs, just drag and drop over and they're there when you turn on the unit not plugged into the computer. Organization is as simple as making new folders. Are there any other portables that have this capability? I only know people with nomad zens and ipods, and both reqire special software to transfer songs, which according to everyone, sucks. But for now i'll stick with my big ugly jukebox.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Imagine a RAID cluster of these...
here's a fantastic idea,
instead of removing the hdd from your ipod and potentially voiding your warranty say y or m to;
"CONFIG_SCSI", "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD", "CONFIG_IEEE1394", "CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2"
reboot with your new kernel (or modprobe the modules) connect your ipod and mount as you did before (except it will appear as a scsi disk)
Rumours of a truly next gen multimedia iPod have been circulating for some time now.
People asking who could possibly need 60GB for music storage (by the way, I can't fit all my music library on my 40GB model) are possibly missing the point of the need for greater storage capacity.
Sure, 60GB is a lot of 6MB music files, but it it's a whole lot fewer movie files.
Personally, I think a fully multimedia iPod would no longer be an iPod, but I'm sure that Apple would find it hard not to capitalise on its mega-brand if the potential market for such devices ever became widespread enough.
Don't get me wrong, logically speaking you are certainly correct. Unfortunately MS relies on a strategy of remaining incompatible and anticompetitive...
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come on dammit! the hardware is supposed to be free!!
As I said, it's just like TCP/IP.
If another filesystem becomes popular, they can't possibly hold out. They want to be incompatible, but at everyone else's expense, not their own. That's why they have TCP/IP in Windows. That's why Internet Explorer displays normal, standard, compatible, HTML... etc, etc, etc.
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God forbid the government somehow finds out he's got pictures of his kids breastfeeding or in the bath. They'd definitely be happy to get his sick perverted ass off the streets or, at the very least, fuck up his life horribly before saying, "Oops, I guess maybe that photo wasn't kiddie porn after all...".
Granted, nobody else is likely to ever check out the photos on his iPod... But you're naîve if you think family photos are necessarily benign.
That pwd command you put in is bogus. Are you trying to troll us?
Kush?
You can use the iPod as a secondary storage device. It is a standard firewire disk - it is hot pluggable - and gets autmagically mounted on Mac OS / Windows / Linux.
Please don't send a Word document when a text file will do the job.
There are two ways of exploiting Moore's Law.: iether getting more Mbytes or MHz in the same package or achieiving previous size/speed with smaller parts or less power at a lower price. I doubt I'll ever buy an ipod, but I expect most people would rather have a smaller/cheaper/longer playing ipod than one that can store 60GB.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Yes, you could spend a lot less and get a lot more features for your money. But the iPod is a "sports car" product - you could spend a a bit of money on a Ford estate car, and get the works - AC, DVD players, Sat nav, etc. Or you could spend a lot on a sports car, which only has the AC. ...you don't need a DVD player in a 2 seater sports car, because you're only really buying it for a) speed, and/or b) looks.
Similarly, although it would be nice to have OGG support, digital out etc, many people (not all, but many) are buying the iPod because "it's an iPod". They like the brand. The brand is desirable. iRiver isn't desirable - if you asked a teenager what they thought of the iRiver, they probably wouldn't know what it was.
well, the zen still fits in my pocket and i'd much rather drop a metal encased device on concrete than a plastic one ..
Umm.. I have an iPod mini, and there is a checkbox in iTunes thast allows the iPod to be treated as a normal USB/Firewire drive. Once it's enabled, the iPod shows up as a 3.7GB drive on any computer I plug it into. You don't even need iTunes installed on the computer. The mp3s are stored in a hidden folder on the iPod. This makes it easy to play all my songs on any computer, even if it doesn't have iTunes. I can copy them too. Also, I can copy any files I want (space permitting) to the iPod because it behaves like a normal external drive. Maybe you should investigate the features of the iPod before you assume what it can and can't do. By the way, why are you afraid of wearing white headphones? Is crime really that bad where you live?
Karma: Meh (Mostly from meh.)
your plan has merits, but one colossal drawback.
The iPod's most serious drawback is its battery life. The biggest power drain on the iPod is when it spins up the HD to load new files. Encoding all your music into a lossless format will cause it to access the HD multiple times for each song, in most cases.
Therefore filling your ipod with losslessly encoded files and then playing them will flatten the battery at a very fast pace indeed.
The best use of 60gig iPod drive is to use it to store other large files - avi files for example...
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two enhancements to the ipod, the first is easy, second.. not so easy.
firstly, a sandisk memory block that clips into the back. It would double as the stream buffer and also an easy way to transfer large amounts of music from one pod to another instintaniously. This one would be for those people who "jack in" to each others ipods at crosswalks and stuff. Imagine swaping tastes in music simply by switching memory blocks with someonelse. (not completly legal, but admitily something i would enjoy experiencing).
Secondly, a SuperVideo out with Divx Decoding, using a upgradable decoding chip/module.
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Maybe Apple has found a way to pack two of them in each iPod!
Bring on 120GB...
Creative already beat them out of the gate with a 60 gig mp3 player.o did=9288
http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?pr
With the 40 gig Ipod costing $499, what will the 60 gig model cost? $699? Nah, I think I'll stick with my Creative Nomad. Works great, much much cheaper!
sigs are dumb.
And if you're talking about dropping them... I've watched mine bounce down the street after falling off my unicycle - went and picked it up hoping I might get my music off it before it was totally dead... It was still sitting there playing away.
The UI and the joystick suck though, and the lack of gapless playback blows. There's also no on-the-fly playlisting function. And there's a serious bug which keeps the drive spinning at all times in many situations.
:-/
Sure it could do many of those in the future with a firmware upgrade, but it does none of those things today. And the firmware upgrade iRiver promised for May has been delayed.
Still, the USB-STORAGE class and OGG support and long battery life are enough for me to keep the unit and wait out the firmware upgrades when they come, if ever...
The only other unit which comes close is the Rio Karma -- and that has serious reliability problems with the hard drive. And it doesnt have USB-STORAGE class.
Colored iPods
They'll even match your earbud, iPod Dock, and iTrip FM Transmitter.
It was a big issue when the iPod first came out, because Linux users were hoping to use it, and Linux has HFS support (but not HFS+).
Linux does have HFS+ support.. and has for at least 2 years now. I don't know if it did when the iPod came out, but it definately has it now.
Why is it concluded so fast that there must be new iPods coming with 60GB drives? I think 350,000 units of this thing is a bit too much to just put them into iPods. Isn't there a slight possiblity that Apple may put them in e.g. PowerBooks?
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Some facts about iPods:
-They are alle fully functional FireWire AND USB2 drives, which can be mounted as any other drive, if supported by your OS.
-The Mac version is formatted as HFS+, the Windows version as FAT32. iPods can be reformatted to whatever format you need.
-Music on iPods is stored in a hidden folder, but is accessible via the filesystem. iTunes makes syncing and organizing easier, but is really not required. (Like a gui is not really required for an OS)
-Storage space on iPods can be used for much more that. I store backups of homedirectories and movies on my remaining 25GB
-Apple will soon introduce a feature in OSX, where your home directory is on your iPod. (this was pulled from 10.3 just before launch, expect it to return in 10.4). The idea is that if you attach an iPod, with a known user profile, you can choose to log in from it. When doing so your home directory on the iPod is synced to the OS-host, and vice versa on logout. Imagine a network, where all home dirs is in the pockets of the users. Anyone here has homes larger than 40 GB ?
So to sum up. An iPod is just a small, sexy external disk with smarts. Anyone with a bit of imagination can extrapolate from here..
Another reason for a bigger drive would be this "home on iPod" idea that was floated a while ago (somewhere on the Apple web site, but pulled soon after).
Essentially, your complete home directory would be synched to the iPod, then you can take it along, plug it into any Mac running the latest OS, and run of your home directory (without needing an account on that Mac), and work.
Later your changes would be synched back to your home directory at home.
Sounds great to me. Automatic backup, and work wherever you want.
And, well, listen to your music.
I hope they get this done!
As a human, I agree with your points completely.
As an employer, I can GUARANTEE you that I won't hire anyone who has poor grammar or spelling.
The job market is such that I can send such people away with complete confidence that someone with a good command of at least one language will appear in his place.
All you lazy semi-literate slobs out there should be ashamed.
You're funny, to be making so many assumptions on so little information. And sad, too, to be so jealously fixated on wealth.
Working at building my company for 7 years, culminating with Red Hat eventually buying it, allows me to take joy in flight, travel, technical diving, music, friends, and family. If you can not understand the aesthetic and profound qualities of those experiences and really think that they are only meaningful for status, I'd suggest that it is not I who lack dimension.
Professionally, I'm not working in the technology field any more - I'm working to provide care for the elderly and dying for a salary that's under the poverty line. Financial success has allowed me to make that choice without sacrificing my own quality of life. Sometime in the next couple of years I'll probably return to technology in one way or another, because that's my natural aptitude and I usually enjoy it.
But hey, that's only one dimension of my life.
And, to help improve your information to noise ratio, a 1969 Piper Cherokee 180D is basically the VW microbus of the air - if I were chasing status, I'd have dumped all of my money into a new Beechcraft, a microjet, or something else equally silly. I just love to fly.
"It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
YES.
Whats the point of lossless format if you have normal headphones.
"Data expands to fill the space available for storage", see the definition in the Jargon File.
The iPod is REALLY sturdy. On more than one occasion, I've dropped it from a belt level, on to cement. Once I managed to fling it across the room by getting the headphones caught on something. Each and every time, I've picked it right back up, it continued playing music, and hardly even has a scratch.
The opinions in this post are ficticious. Any similarity to actual opinions, real or imagined, is purely coincidental.
Usury, is how most people become rich. Owning things. Who is richer the average musician or a record company owner? The average musician will die to sign a record contract, even if it means giving much of the rights to his artistic creations to some record company so some rich "owner of a company" can be a fat cat. There is not much money in music, except for a lucky few, the real cash is in usury of music, getting desperate musicians scraping by in life to sign to your label for a signing bonus and exposure. Working hard rarely invovles large scale usury. You got lucky that once IPO rich Redhat bought your company before the linux IPO market crashed. There is hard work, and then there is luck. Hard work is being a coal miner, luck is getting a wad of cash from Redhat before their financial IPO bubble burst because their stock value did not scale with the low volume of their profits.
Full time philanthropy is something only the rich usurers like you can afford to do. Other people have to work full time! It seems from reading your posts you like to drop names of your toys alot, so I do not have to assume much:
a)You have five macs
b)A tivo with a hacked 300 gig hd
c)Vaio on a Gefen KVM connected to a 23" cinema display LCD and a Kennsignton wireless mouse
d)Cherokee 180-D airplane and 1500 CDs
e)a whopping 1800 gigs of hd to archive your audio and to back it up
It seems that for you slashdot is for dropping names of tech toys that you own. This is only from your last 24 comments, keep in mind.
It was in my back pocket when I was skating and I fell on my ass, squishing the ipod. The screen was a bit messed up, there was a sizable dent in the back, and when turned on, there was a disk error icon. The thing did keep playing until the flash buffer emptied though. I managed to sell it on ebay though for around 40 quid. My second ipod has survived a fall from hand height to ashphalt, and is still alive, although scratched. I guess I should be a bit more careful!
Those of you looking for an affordable mp3 player might want to check out the X-drive:
;)
http://www.xs-drive.com/
It's pretty much what I've been waiting for - mp3 player, external hard disk which uses standard 2.5" IDE so upgrading is easy, and card readers to boot. iPods are nifty, look better, and probably taste better if ye swab 'em with strawberry sauce, but these have pretty compeditive pricing
- Jynx
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it well worth the effort.
He tries to pass off that he was working hard for seven years, but he knows deep down it is bunk. He owned a company, Redhat bought it for a large wad of cash. Redhat in turn was not worth its huge IPO value and this guy is now rich off off the bad decision of some stupid, trendy stock investors. He is one lucky guy and he knows it. This is why he is doing philanthropy if he does any at all, to ease his conscious.
Hard work is not owning a company and then getting lucky enough to retire after having your company bought out. Philanthropy is a disease on the conscious of the rich. To be fair, if he is being honest, most rich people just throw money to charities and various "causes" and consider that philanthropy, doing no real hands on philanthropy like he claims he does.
sure thing sideshow bob
Look at my post where I methodically link to his recent comments, where he drops the names of some of his toys.
When I was little I remember show and tell. Kids would bring in their toys one day a week. It is sick that schools support this mindless consumer culture where you cannot not even take your kid to a shopping mall without them wanting to buy a toy at the first toy store they see, or them crying when you refuse. This guy thinks slashdot is his personal show and tell. He obviously is not one to be content with what he has.
Yes, the obvious reason being that you're a fucking troll. Now go back to copying that 17M file at your freelance gig.
Now that iTunes includes Apples own Lossless Encoder, one could fill up a 60GB iPod easy using the new lossless format for all of their CD's.
There are several recent articles praising the Apple Lossless Encoder if you are skeptical of using the new format.
And I know I could go for a 60GB iPod considering I have about 71GB of MP3.
I mean, really - 100 MB for $100 when Google is giving a GB for free... iPods have grown at about 100% extra space per year for the same price, why not .Mac?
iPod Hacks.com
Check it.
Microsoft's xPod will have 600 GB! It will go for 8 months on a single charge, and cost less than $50.
Hell, we may even give them away in cereal packets!
Please wait for it and don't go buying one of those silly white iPods. Our xPod will be black. Black is cool! It will run super-DRM, hyper-product activated music in the form of the industry standard (it's a STANDARD okay... or else) WMA, which is what everyone wants, in the sense of "here's where you're going today" kind of wants.
And no, there is no truth that WMA stands for "We May Ask for your first child." Who do you think we are, bloodsucking vampires or something. (Looks like we'll have to start using smaller print on the EULAs.)
Oh please please please wait for the Microsoft xPod. I wanna be just like you Steve. I've even started to wear turtlenecks and say "phenomenal" all the time... We wants it, the precious.
Those of us intelligent enough to purchase an Archos Jukebox, this is old news. I took my original 20GB out and replaced it with an 80GB drive long ago. Also, for an added bonus there is an excellent open source firmware project.
iPods mount on the desktop like any external hard drive under Mac OS X. I believe it also can do the same on Windows.
PS- I bought my Zen Xtra 40GB two days ago. The slightly longer learning/practice curve (30 minutes) and larger size (still smaller than a portable CD or cassette player) was worth it to save $220 off the price of an iPod of the same capacity.
...lossless AAC.
it's apple's new USP.
you have nothing to hide right ?
Eversince the first iPods came out, thieves have used them to connect to store display Macs so they can drag & drop software to it. Most commonly, Microsoft Office v.X. and Adobe Creative Suite products.
With 60GBs at their disposal, the possibilities are endless.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, START
The iPod is actually really awesome for stroing photos off a professional digital camera. At raw size the files get to be about 10MB, so a huge drive and one of those dumping devices is great, because at 60Gigs, its like carrying around 180 rolls of film! But no developing cost. Thats F*rkn Awesome!
While I'm sure many people here would have no trouble filling a 60GB iPod, the real reason they're increasing the space so rapidly is their new feature Home-on-iPod. This, coupled with home folder encryption, would allow for truly portable computing; just plug your iPod in and it's your Macintosh, with all your preferences set and all your libraries available. Sounds great to me!
I'm in the hole of the broadband donut.
Recently on E! Entertainment's, Howard Stern TV Show there was the typical playboy model with her typical fake plastic tits. Her forehead also looked unnatural like it was surgically altered in some way, a fitting plastic women to go with our plastic society. She was Hugh's head girlfriend at the Playboy mansion. When Howard asked her if Hugh gave her an orgasm; there was a predictable dead pause for many seconds, then she looks at the floor and starts saying what a nice guy he is. When Howard asked if she was attracted to Hugh; once again, dead pause but for only a short while, she looks to the floor and again she repeats Hugh is a nice guy even detailing how well Hugh takes care of her financially. Honestly, if I was one of these rich guys getting women only for my money, I would have a severly bruised ego. When I see a man in a Porsche who is ugly I urge to shout to my lung's capacity: "You fucking moron, do you think this Porsche can compensate for your being old and ugly!" Even if these guys attract women it must deveastating to know they are only interested in your wealth, your status and not you.
... "I'll be really psyched when 80 GBs are available, and then (dream dream) it'll take a 160 GB iPod to make me really, really happy." ...
/prov./ ""Data expands to fill the space available for storage"; buying more memory encourages the use of more memory-intensive techniques. It has been observed over the last 10 years that the memory usage of evolving systems tends to double roughly once every 18 months. Fortunately, memory density available for constant dollars also tends to double about once every 12 months (see Moore's Law); unfortunately, the laws of physics guarantee that the latter cannot continue indefinitely."
I do not know why this guy feels the need to go on about his glorified toys, but one thing is for sure. He is not happy with what he has.
I forget to add to my list:
f) he mentions he has an ipod
From his posts we can conclude:
a)He has 1800gb of hd for his music to be ripped lossless and to back it all up
b)He has a 300gb Tivo
c)From this post he shows definite evidence of a desire to get the newer model Ipods with ever bigger HDs.
So between his Tivo and music collection that is 2100gb of hd alone right there. He has a total of five macs and a Vaio as well. Who knows how much total hd space he has. We also know he has an Ipod right now and is not satsified with it's capacity and has an interest to purchase newer models as they may come out. How much hd space is enough? I am sitting here typing on a 450mhz PII computer with a 22gb hd and I can say I am content with my hd space.(I must mention I have a router with a 120gb hd. This is obviously not meant to brag since this is a very outdated setup, but the point is I do not care, I am content with what I have.) This guy unlike me, as far as hard drives are concerned will probably never be able to say he is content with what he has.
Parkinson's Law of Data
Now I can hook my P2P/warez network d/l muzick straight to my iPOD without having to worry too much about space and such!
Awesome man!
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That at least a few are made although it may not be the most successful release of the ipod. Many people download mp3's on an album basis, and this can take allllot of space. But a decent collection of MP3's in my mind can exceed far over 50 gigabytes... But then, that's just the way I'm going.
Georgia
DRM'd music is less flexible than before when NO music had DRM. Yet somehow that's a new "feature" that people are willing to pay to recieve. By that logic, consumers should buy gadgets with every sort of draconian DRM. After all, without it they couldn't get it at all. Even though it was a widely accepted practice before.
I guess I've never felt more like using the expression "Less is more"... Not only do you take away the consumers' rights, they think you're delivering them a great new feature too. I'd love to have customers like that. They cripple the product, then ask you to be happy you got one at all. Wohoo.
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
While we're at it we might as well mention that the phrase is "I am loth to agree", not "I am loathe to agree". Two different words
My primary exposure to new music is through file trading these days. It's fun to get gigs of music you've never heard of and discriminate after you listen to it (as opposed to based on the appearance of the band, the music video, the frequency of commercial radio play, the genre, your nostalgia and grudges from high school, etc).
Damn, what is all of this metal encasing my iPod? You mean Apple didn't put that there?
mbbac
iPod devices that broadcast music shares, and allow one to listen/transfer what music is already shared by others, wirelessly, seamlessly, the Apple Way.
Look to Apple to incorporate some sort of wireless ability with iPods soon, which will pave the way to a distributed music sharing utopia that hacker-types will embrace, if not lead the charge with.
That's how I see it. We'll still have hard drives, but we'll be able to make our storage into mobile datacenters too. Apple will just make it cooler to do so, with style of course.
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You make valid points but try to proof your work before you rant buddy, if not it makes you look dumb.
I'm surprised no one's said this yet.
If you ran a company, and someone who supplied you with a vital component started issuing press releases about what products *you* were likely to issue, and press releases saying exactly how much you spent with them, wouldn't you take their business elsewhere?
Sure, it's really interesting news. But it seems completely unprofessional for a company to issue a press release speculating on their 'customer's' new products?
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suwain_2
Yes, but is it enough to run Longhorn?
Just a few reminders of what various slashdotters originally though of the iPod before "iPods are the shiznit" became /. canon.
;-)" - jaoswald
.. "groundbreaking" I think was the term I heard them use to describe this new secret product the other day. How "groundbreaking" can something be when I can walk up the street and buy something with similar (and in some cases, additional/better) features? Sigh. One day Apple will live up to the hype. OS X is cool, and their plastic molding team has skills, but the hardware just sucks." - nebby
"iPod is a good product, but nothing to get excited over." - harlows_monkeys
"It's not cool at all. It's just another Mac attempt to have the coolest looking, hippest sounding gadget on the market. It adds nothing serious to the current options. For instance, no Ogg Vorbis support (and yes, I realize it probably decodes mp3 in hardware, but...) and it doesn't appear to be cross-platform. I guess this falls into the Dilbert principle of "the best target market is stupid rich people." Since they'll fall for anything and have the money to burn on it." - ichimunki
"...the "rose-colored glasses that you will need for this to seem like a worthwhile product. What a let-down, geez!!" - david614
"People need to realize that all apple ever really delivers is mediocre equipment that, while it may look really cool, is less technically advanced/powerfull/whatever than competing products that cost 20-25% less." - greysky
"A waste of time. Probably OEMed by someone else. Agree with the article poster - Lame. Not only is this a lackluster MP3 unit (which by virtue of being firewire will be limited to Apple Mac owners), but it has virtually no UI wizardry that might define it as an Apple product. A total waste of time." - Ars-Fartsica
"I'd rather pay $100 for a Rio Volt. 700mb of songs per CD with an unlimited number of CD's, provided you change them. Yeah, this should compete favorably with the solid state units, but they've already lost to the CD-MP3 units, IMO." - Fred Ferrigno
"I think it'll sell as well as the G4 Cube. Oops.
"And I was all excited they were gooing to release a OS X based wireless web pad. Instead we get yet another portable MP3 player
"I am very sad that Apple seems to be repeating the same mistake they made with the Cube - great, nifty product that anyone would love to own, except that it's burdened by an unbelievably poor price/performance ratio." - jchristopher (Apple shareholder)
"...this was a VERY poor design decision. This could have been a $150 device if they'd used a regular laptop drive." - jchristopher again
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
Heck, yeah. If I had an iPod, I'd be all over this media reader. It's a bit bulky, but you can download photos to it, then when you sync up with iPhoto once you get back to your computer, it keeps the shots in the "rolls" you shot them in. Nice.
You know what?
The hard drive isn't going to be the problem with these things. If you break it, it'll be because of something like the little slide "lock" switch, or the headphone jack, or the port on the bottom. The HDs are rated against a certain level of shock, but little plastic switches and headphone jacks...
I've dropped mine a handful of times and never had a glitch. Ran into someone on a bulletin board who'd dropped hers *just right* and had the lock switch stick in "on" position, so that she couldn't use the controls.
It's the weak stuff that breaks, not necessarily the expensive or "important-seeming" parts. O-rings on the space shuttle, yes?
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
See, I don't know that they DO pay a premium. More like, they tell company X they can buy every single unit they produce at a rate which is reasonable, but way cheaper than what they'd go for on the open market. Company X would like to maximize profits, but sees that the first run of the technology is basically paid for in its entirety with the Apple deal. If they sold in smaller numbers, they could get more per unit but it would take more work and have a higher risk factor...and during the initial run, they'll have their hands full perfecting the process.
Apple's use of cutting edge technology is good for them AND for manufacturers. I doubt they pay a lot for them.
Hey freaks: now you're ju
Ok, I know this is an apple love in here, but a couple of questions here...
1. Who the hell has 60GB of music?
2. Will you ever be able to play the full 60GB of tune before you need a new iPod due to it's notoriously sub par proprietary battery?
Disk space does not matter as much as battery life.
I had newer iPod, but the battery life is so bad, I went back and got mini iPod.
A lot less space, but battery is MUCH better.
Overall much better experience.
Please, how on earth can anyone have 60GB or even 40GB of legal music?
Assuming 74 minute CDs burned at 256kbps, and purchased at $5/each, you'd have about 422 albums which would cost a total of about $2100.
Hmmm... Maybe it is possible. Of course more typical numbers would put 1250 50-minute albums on the device at 128kbps, purchased at an average of $10/album would be $12,500.
As you say though... lossless encoding... I guess there are future applications for this stuff.
There is nothing like anoucing a Apple product before Apple does it. I guess they should have had a little talk with ATI.
I'll give you the portable hard drive bit. That's something I wasn't thinking about.
Still, 75GB of mp3's? How many songs is that, 10,000+? Jeeze, how do you cope with all that music?
Can you imagine a raid array of those drives?
portable encoding mp3 jukebox with optical IO as the world is mostly made up of non-geeks.
I think everyone, geek and non-geek, "gets it" when you can play back your files REALLY LOUD without any analog hum. I can plug in my Archos using analog or digital, and the difference in both quality and noise reduction is startling.
Da Blog
The real reason Apple will make an iPod with the highest-capacity disk reasonably available is that there will always be the alpha geeks that will buy it, even if all they really will use is a few gigs.
So how much will the pricing of the 40GB iPod drop? I'd like to buy some as gifts if it was affordable. Anything over $200 is plain crazy.
for at least a year it was the only decent hires (>= 1600x1024) panel you could buy.
was that because SGI had already stopped selling the 1600sw (appropriately named 7of9) at that time? It's only 17 inches, but has 1600x1024 since 1998, and it's pretty decent in my opinion.
I'm sure it will be just as ridiculously overpriced as it's predecessors.
A month ago I bought a 30GB Nomad Zen NX for $160. A 30GB iPod would have cost me well over twice that much. And what would I have gotten for that much extra money? A non-replaceable battery (unlike the Nomad), and a slimmer but (IMHO) effeminate case.
You were riding your unicycle. Listening to your iPod.
What is it about us Mac users? There's always SOMETHING that makes us different. I don't think I've met a normal one yet. Don't get me wrong, I like "thinking different(ly)", but as a group we really are on the fringes aren't we?
See, I don't know that they DO pay a premium.
I agree the price is probably the same. But you can "pay a premium" in other ways, eg volume commitment.
Das Bundesamt entscheidet über Asylanträge und Abschiebeschutz. Als zentrale Migrationsbehörde ist es zuständig für die Integration von Zuwanderern sowie für ein nationales Integrationsprogramm. Es nimmt Aufgaben bei der Aufnahme jüdischer Immigranten aus der ehemaligen Sowjetunion wahr, ist Informationsvermittlungstelle in der Rückkehrförderung, Kontaktstelle für temporären Schutz bei Massenzustrom von Vertriebenen und die Nationale Zentralstelle des Europäischen Flüchtlingfonds. Zudem wurde ein unabhängiger Sachverständigenrat für Zuwanderung und Integration eingerichtet. Das Bundesamt entscheidet über Asylanträge und Abschiebeschutz. Als zentrale Migrationsbehörde ist es zuständig für die Integration von Zuwanderern sowie für ein nationales Integrationsprogramm. Es nimmt Aufgaben bei der Aufnahme jüdischer Immigranten aus der ehemaligen Sowjetunion wahr, ist Informationsvermittlungstelle in der Rückkehrförderung, Kontaktstelle für temporären Schutz bei Massenzustrom von Vertriebenen und die Nationale Zentralstelle des Europäischen Flüchtlingfonds. Zudem wurde ein unabhängiger Sachverständigenrat für Zuwanderung und Integration eingerichtet.
Das Bundesamt entscheidet über Asylanträge und Abschiebeschutz. Als zentrale Migrationsbehörde ist es zuständig für die Integration von Zuwanderern sowie für ein nationales Integrationsprogramm. Es nimmt Aufgaben bei der Aufnahme jüdischer Immigranten aus der ehemaligen Sowjetunion wahr, ist Informationsvermittlungstelle in der Rückkehrförderung, Kontaktstelle für temporären Schutz bei Massenzustrom von Vertriebenen und die Nationale Zentralstelle des Europäischen Flüchtlingfonds. Zudem wurde ein unabhängiger Sachverständigenrat für Zuwanderung und Integration eingerichtet.
Das Bundesamt entscheidet über Asylanträge und Abschiebeschutz. Als zentrale Migrationsbehörde ist es zuständig für die Integration von Zuwanderern sowie für ein nationales Integrationsprogramm. Es nimmt Aufgaben bei der Aufnahme jüdischer Immigranten aus der ehemaligen Sowjetunion wahr, ist Informationsvermittlungstelle in der Rückkehrförderung, Kontaktstelle für temporären Schutz bei Massenzustrom von Vertriebenen und die Nationale Zentralstelle des Europäischen Flüchtlingfonds. Zudem wurde ein unabhängiger Sachverständigenrat für Zuwanderung und Integration eingerichtet.
Das Bundesamt entscheidet über Asylanträge und Abschiebeschutz. Als zentrale Migrationsbehörde ist es zuständig für die Integration von Zuwanderern sowie für ein nationales Integrationsprogramm. Es nimmt Aufgaben bei der Aufnahme jüdischer Immigranten aus der ehemaligen Sowjetunion wahr, ist Informationsvermittlungstelle in der Rückkehrförderung, Kontaktstelle für temporären Schutz bei Massenzustrom von Vertriebenen und die Nationale Zentralstelle des Europäischen Flüchtlingfonds. Zudem wurde ein unabhängiger Sachverständigenrat für Zuwanderung und Integration eingerichtet.
Das Bundesamt entscheidet über Asylanträge und Abschiebeschutz. Als zentrale Migrationsbehörde ist es zuständig für die Integration von Zuwanderern sowie für ein nationales Integrationsprogramm. Es nimmt Aufgaben bei der Aufnahme jüdischer Immigranten aus der ehemaligen Sowjetunion wahr, ist Informationsvermittlungstelle in der Rückkehrförderung, Kontaktstelle für temporären Schutz bei Massenzustrom von Vertriebenen und die Nationale Zentralstelle des Europäischen Flüchtlingfonds. Zudem wurde ein unabhängiger Sachverständigenrat für Zuwanderung und Integration eingerichtet.
Das Bundesamt entscheidet über Asylanträge und Abschiebeschutz. Als zentrale Mig
No, I think the end is right around 60 gigs.
This is splendiferous, superb, wundahful!
Too bad it can still only play for 8 hours.
Too bad you've got 60 gigs of music that you can listen to with questionable quality.
I'll take zee iRiver, thank you.
Presently here, but not there.
Volume commitment is only a premium if you can't MOVE the volume. Think of it like shopping for groceries in bulk. Sure, for some people buying 3 pounds of premium bacon for $8 is overkill, because it'll go bad before it's used. For me, that's a week's worth...
Hey freaks: now you're ju
Like, slap in an 80 Gig hard disk?
We had that story yesterday about ArsTechnica putting those USB drives in a raid config. When is someone going to set up a couple of ipods in a raid config?
Your critical files will be safe so long as you save them in a folder as a .dmg with 128 bit encryption and a safe password. You may do so from Disk Utilities on your Mac.
If you got yourself some REALLY GOOD headphones like the shure E3s I'm using with my iPod you wouldn't need to crank your Archos really loud.
Thanks but I have several Grado cans I like for personal use. I'll take Grado over Shure anyday.
But if you are at a party and want to plug in to a real sound system, either for recording or playback, believe me, you want to use a digital interconnect. Especially if you haven't had time to isolate all the analog connections.
I don't think there's an iPod with digital IO or hi-fi recording, so many iPodders probably don't even realise that they are lacking high-quality output.
Da Blog
could this possibly be for the upcomming iPad? the new handheld that is being rummored? dunno.. just wondering...
I'd rather get shot while holding a polycarbonate shield than a thin metal one.
Metal is not "stronger" than plastic.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
Na, und?