Well then, clearly the screeners aren't trained properly, thus the screening process isn't working properly. That basically gives people a free pass the first time, if they are lucky enough to get through unnoticed. One trigger squeeze can kill someone or detonate an explosive, right?
I have a feeling that the majority of "potential repeat offenders" are probably not the terrorists the original plan set out to stop.
The process isn't working right for whatever reason if we need to do things this way.
It's not worth getting arrested over, or having someone serve me with court papers. Really, I have too much else going on in my life to do that to prove a point.
You'd be surprised how much effort they put into making these things look so bad. It takes a lot more work to get all those crapplets to live together in dubious harmony than to just go with a clean site.
But you're right, sub-accounts? "You don't trust me! Waaah!"
I've seen this before. People share their Netflix passwords so they can leave it logged in at their S.O.'s house and they can have one account that they both share, to save money and watch movies together wherever they happen to wind up. It's usually someone's parents' account, too. Meh, I don't think it's a great idea, but there's your answer.
You're right. I was over-generalizing. Not everyone was like that, but another poster put forth a figure (85%) that I would agree with.
I don't consider myself to be part of the majority who were trying to do that... perhaps because I had other avenues for socializing, but also because I really didn't like what I saw in the most vocal girls e.g. using the situation to their advantage to the point where they never wrote a single line of code. I mean, I'm talking about girls who got to CS 2 and were still asking the lab TA about the usage of the if statement, or the for loop, when their usual entourage was out sick? Come on, man.
Not that I'm calling out all girls. Please don't misunderstand. I bet those other girls who were either good at telling everyone "I'm not interested" or weren't considered attractive were probably fearsome ninja coders, because they didn't have guys falling all over themselves to do the work for them. They were probably less impressed with the first category than I was, because they were the ones being misrepresented. Actually, I dated a web developer for a while, and she was darn good at what she did.
So yes... you're right. Generalizations aren't good.
Sorry for self-reply. I missed the all-male dorm thing, so idea #2 and #3 doesn't apply. But that still leaves you with 10 other things, and you can always tag along with your friends who don't live in an all-male dorm.
It was totally like that in all of the CS and engineering classes I took. So you have to look outside the classes, in that case. It's easy, and I'll tell you about it. You have a lot of windows of opportunity for these things in college. Some of them are still viable if you're not a college student, too. If you're afraid to be social, because you're too shy... well, figure on never seeing any of these people again, and it's a lot easier to not care what they think of you. Who cares, you have other things you can check out if it fails horribly. A lot of people have the capacity to break out of their shell, you might too! If you're technologically inclined, wouldn't you want to experiment and find out what you're capable of? You do the same thing when you build a new PC, you have to see what it can do. See what YOU can do.
Here are a dozen ideas to get started.
1. Freshman orientation classes - talk to the other students. 2. Going to the cafeteria with people on your floor. 3. Participating in floor/building events. 4. Going to Student Government sponsored events. 5. Putting your own events together (other than LAN parties and drinking parties) and actually creating those social opportunities college students are always complaining about. Movie night! International food night! 6. Local community service organizations. Not just fraternities, but the other ones in town. You'd be surprised at how few men actually participate in those. 7. Student clubs on campus, other than wargaming or other predominantly male clubs. 8. Take a few classes outside your discipline, like photography for non-majors, or a wellness class like some sort of dancing or exercise. 9. Young adult groups or smallgroups at a local church. Most of them have these and they're really social. 9b. Religious clubs on campus. 10. Start or attend something from meetup.com. 11. Start a Reddit meetup. 12. Look for events in your local City newspaper.
The thing is, if you stay in your comfort zone of your computer chair the whole time, you'll find that comfort zone gets smaller and smaller as you get older. You have to take charge of your life and get out there and do things. It's not really that hard and you don't even have to spend money or drive for most of these things!
You can always make smalltalk with random people waiting in line with you at places, or whoever sits around you. The opportunities are there, waiting.
Got any tips? I had the same problem because I had a DVD writer... see the other post I made in this thread if you want to know. Boy, they were hostile on the phone.
I've been bitten by Ubisoft's DRM before. Never again am I buying Ubisoft products.
I bought Raving Rabbids once with a gift card, given to me by my girlfriend's family. I had a DVD writer in the cutting-edge (at the time) computer that I'd built. Nowhere on the box or any other literature including Ubisoft's website was it mentioned that DVD writers would trigger the DRM. It installed, but then wouldn't play. The startup error was caused by the DRM, as was stated by a great many forum posts around the Internet. No solutions were anywhere to be found other than removing the drive. The disc is required to be present in order to play. Writers are standard on most store-bought computers. So I spent an hour on hold then had a 45 minute phone call with a tech support guy who got progressively angrier with me (???!!!) as the problem turned out to be unfixable, who told me that next time I need to check the hardware requirements on the box before purchasing a product then hung up on me when I asked to talk to a manager. I never did get to play that game... and couldn't return it, because the store manager was very adamant that it was against the law to take returns on software.
With products and customer support like this, how are they still in business? Why must people perpetuate this mess by giving them money?
This is why networking and making friends is important. People turn into shut-ins or otherwise forget how important friends are, and wind up with this mentality of "he/she's being nice to me? omg he/she wants my body or is otherwise such a creeper"... That's extremely off-putting to the person who's just trying to be decent. I only took a few computer science classes, but when I was there, I could forget about social interaction. Nobody wanted to be the guy who got straight As, or be the guy who answered questions in class, but everyone wanted to be the one girl's personal at-home tutor bow chicka wow wow. Really? That's called doing it wrong on so many levels. If you have healthy friendships with both men and women, you won't need to single out that one person at work or school or wherever else. Don't treat everyone like a potential mate or threat, and life is a lot better.
Better idea... Subscribe to some streaming movie service, so you're at least paying for what you consume? If you watch enough movies, it's well worth it.
Yes, please. Public domain is the most useful "license" you could apply to such a thing. Develop your modular parts standard, give it a name, publish the standard without strings attached, and leave it up to the parts manufacturers and hobbyists to comply with your standard.
Whoa, cool down. Apple has their own call centers all over the world. They handle quite a lot of calls in many languages and dialects. They don't need to source proprietary call center data from anyone else, because they already have their own proprietary call center data. That's my point - they have this data already. So does anyone else with a call center. Microsoft, AT&T, Verizon, insurance companies, whatever. You name a big company, they have it, and can use it. If that data is useful for a project that will make boatloads of money, the powers-that-be within the company will find a way to get it across the requisite organizational boundaries while meeting the necessary regulations. PCI is a big deal, for example, so recordings have to be masked or pre-approved for this use by someone.
So here's how I get this info. I can't just come out and state who I work for, but I work in a call center R&D lab that supports production call centers around the globe, and spend a lot of time talking to software vendors who provide various IVR systems and/or make them interoperate with other IVR systems. The voice recognition tuning data (and perhaps a more valuable asset, the wisdom gained upon its creation) is different from customer recordings. Sure, you need the recordings to make the tuning data, make sure your tuning stuff improves accuracy, and then you get to learn how to tune it better. It's already been collected and stored for years and years so they can improve its accuracy.... Yes, I know, it's still awful in many cases and that largely is the fault of the 8 KHz 8-bit mono format that the telephone systems use. But that goes towards my point, which is that there's already plenty of good work done by the call center administration folks to tune voice recognition specifically for phone use.
It's not as difficult as you are making it out to be.
16:9 aspect monitors really suck when you have all these programs and documents (such as websites) that are designed to be used/viewed in a portrait orientation. Anything they can do to reduce the vertical size of a program's GUI clutter is good by me. I'd rather have things that are available only as needed via a popup menu than an always-there titlebar, menu bar, URL bar, two toolbars, a bookmarks bar, a tab tray, a status bar, the OS dock/taskbar... you know what I mean? Condensing the GUI is good.
Ah, but hold the phone for a second. Any company with a call center, especially those with IVR systems, has been recording for years. Thanks to the regular maintenance and tuning of those systems, companies such as (for example) Apple may not be as far behind Google as you think. All the voice recognition app developers have to do is talk to the call center managers to get cleared to access those recordings, then talk to the IVR tuning people to get years and years of tuning data, and they now have a decent starting point. This is something you could probably do at any large corporation that has had IVR since the '90s. As far as I know, Google is late to the party with that kind of stuff. I'm impressed that they are so good for so little time, but they're still playing catch-up.
That's a wild and crazy accusation. I don't even know what you're talking about.
BRB, searching forums to find the syntax of some undocumented combination of methods I need to call via PowerShell 2 to fix an issue I'm having with cluster shared volumes...
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Well then, clearly the screeners aren't trained properly, thus the screening process isn't working properly. That basically gives people a free pass the first time, if they are lucky enough to get through unnoticed. One trigger squeeze can kill someone or detonate an explosive, right?
I have a feeling that the majority of "potential repeat offenders" are probably not the terrorists the original plan set out to stop.
The process isn't working right for whatever reason if we need to do things this way.
Not necessarily. If the standard screening process was enough to catch it, it'll catch it next time too.
It's not worth getting arrested over, or having someone serve me with court papers. Really, I have too much else going on in my life to do that to prove a point.
I was annoyed tremendously by this comment, and then I realized it was correct.
We have two problems in this situation.
1) Live munitions being forgotten about.
2) Invasive searches with severe repercussions even if you're innocent of intentional wrongdoing.
So, let's remember that these are two separate and equally valid issues.
You'd be surprised how much effort they put into making these things look so bad. It takes a lot more work to get all those crapplets to live together in dubious harmony than to just go with a clean site.
But you're right, sub-accounts? "You don't trust me! Waaah!"
I've seen this before. People share their Netflix passwords so they can leave it logged in at their S.O.'s house and they can have one account that they both share, to save money and watch movies together wherever they happen to wind up. It's usually someone's parents' account, too. Meh, I don't think it's a great idea, but there's your answer.
You're right. I was over-generalizing. Not everyone was like that, but another poster put forth a figure (85%) that I would agree with.
I don't consider myself to be part of the majority who were trying to do that... perhaps because I had other avenues for socializing, but also because I really didn't like what I saw in the most vocal girls e.g. using the situation to their advantage to the point where they never wrote a single line of code. I mean, I'm talking about girls who got to CS 2 and were still asking the lab TA about the usage of the if statement, or the for loop, when their usual entourage was out sick? Come on, man.
Not that I'm calling out all girls. Please don't misunderstand. I bet those other girls who were either good at telling everyone "I'm not interested" or weren't considered attractive were probably fearsome ninja coders, because they didn't have guys falling all over themselves to do the work for them. They were probably less impressed with the first category than I was, because they were the ones being misrepresented. Actually, I dated a web developer for a while, and she was darn good at what she did.
So yes... you're right. Generalizations aren't good.
Sorry for self-reply. I missed the all-male dorm thing, so idea #2 and #3 doesn't apply. But that still leaves you with 10 other things, and you can always tag along with your friends who don't live in an all-male dorm.
It was totally like that in all of the CS and engineering classes I took. So you have to look outside the classes, in that case. It's easy, and I'll tell you about it. You have a lot of windows of opportunity for these things in college. Some of them are still viable if you're not a college student, too. If you're afraid to be social, because you're too shy... well, figure on never seeing any of these people again, and it's a lot easier to not care what they think of you. Who cares, you have other things you can check out if it fails horribly. A lot of people have the capacity to break out of their shell, you might too! If you're technologically inclined, wouldn't you want to experiment and find out what you're capable of? You do the same thing when you build a new PC, you have to see what it can do. See what YOU can do.
Here are a dozen ideas to get started.
1. Freshman orientation classes - talk to the other students.
2. Going to the cafeteria with people on your floor.
3. Participating in floor/building events.
4. Going to Student Government sponsored events.
5. Putting your own events together (other than LAN parties and drinking parties) and actually creating those social opportunities college students are always complaining about. Movie night! International food night!
6. Local community service organizations. Not just fraternities, but the other ones in town. You'd be surprised at how few men actually participate in those.
7. Student clubs on campus, other than wargaming or other predominantly male clubs.
8. Take a few classes outside your discipline, like photography for non-majors, or a wellness class like some sort of dancing or exercise.
9. Young adult groups or smallgroups at a local church. Most of them have these and they're really social.
9b. Religious clubs on campus.
10. Start or attend something from meetup.com.
11. Start a Reddit meetup.
12. Look for events in your local City newspaper.
The thing is, if you stay in your comfort zone of your computer chair the whole time, you'll find that comfort zone gets smaller and smaller as you get older. You have to take charge of your life and get out there and do things. It's not really that hard and you don't even have to spend money or drive for most of these things!
You can always make smalltalk with random people waiting in line with you at places, or whoever sits around you. The opportunities are there, waiting.
Got any tips? I had the same problem because I had a DVD writer... see the other post I made in this thread if you want to know. Boy, they were hostile on the phone.
I've been bitten by Ubisoft's DRM before. Never again am I buying Ubisoft products.
I bought Raving Rabbids once with a gift card, given to me by my girlfriend's family. I had a DVD writer in the cutting-edge (at the time) computer that I'd built. Nowhere on the box or any other literature including Ubisoft's website was it mentioned that DVD writers would trigger the DRM. It installed, but then wouldn't play. The startup error was caused by the DRM, as was stated by a great many forum posts around the Internet. No solutions were anywhere to be found other than removing the drive. The disc is required to be present in order to play. Writers are standard on most store-bought computers. So I spent an hour on hold then had a 45 minute phone call with a tech support guy who got progressively angrier with me (???!!!) as the problem turned out to be unfixable, who told me that next time I need to check the hardware requirements on the box before purchasing a product then hung up on me when I asked to talk to a manager. I never did get to play that game... and couldn't return it, because the store manager was very adamant that it was against the law to take returns on software.
With products and customer support like this, how are they still in business? Why must people perpetuate this mess by giving them money?
This is why networking and making friends is important. People turn into shut-ins or otherwise forget how important friends are, and wind up with this mentality of "he/she's being nice to me? omg he/she wants my body or is otherwise such a creeper"... That's extremely off-putting to the person who's just trying to be decent. I only took a few computer science classes, but when I was there, I could forget about social interaction. Nobody wanted to be the guy who got straight As, or be the guy who answered questions in class, but everyone wanted to be the one girl's personal at-home tutor bow chicka wow wow. Really? That's called doing it wrong on so many levels. If you have healthy friendships with both men and women, you won't need to single out that one person at work or school or wherever else. Don't treat everyone like a potential mate or threat, and life is a lot better.
Better idea... Subscribe to some streaming movie service, so you're at least paying for what you consume? If you watch enough movies, it's well worth it.
I blame HTML mail. Have you ever seen the source of your average Exchange email thread? The horrors!!
Then there are those people who send BMPs embedded in Word/Excel so they can send you a screenshot! Gaaaack
I'm glad someone caught the joke there.
If you're serious: The competition would probably win that one, since they have those 3-packs-for-$10 sales all the time. Rats!
Yes, please. Public domain is the most useful "license" you could apply to such a thing. Develop your modular parts standard, give it a name, publish the standard without strings attached, and leave it up to the parts manufacturers and hobbyists to comply with your standard.
Whoa, cool down. Apple has their own call centers all over the world. They handle quite a lot of calls in many languages and dialects. They don't need to source proprietary call center data from anyone else, because they already have their own proprietary call center data. That's my point - they have this data already. So does anyone else with a call center. Microsoft, AT&T, Verizon, insurance companies, whatever. You name a big company, they have it, and can use it. If that data is useful for a project that will make boatloads of money, the powers-that-be within the company will find a way to get it across the requisite organizational boundaries while meeting the necessary regulations. PCI is a big deal, for example, so recordings have to be masked or pre-approved for this use by someone.
So here's how I get this info. I can't just come out and state who I work for, but I work in a call center R&D lab that supports production call centers around the globe, and spend a lot of time talking to software vendors who provide various IVR systems and/or make them interoperate with other IVR systems. The voice recognition tuning data (and perhaps a more valuable asset, the wisdom gained upon its creation) is different from customer recordings. Sure, you need the recordings to make the tuning data, make sure your tuning stuff improves accuracy, and then you get to learn how to tune it better. It's already been collected and stored for years and years so they can improve its accuracy. ... Yes, I know, it's still awful in many cases and that largely is the fault of the 8 KHz 8-bit mono format that the telephone systems use. But that goes towards my point, which is that there's already plenty of good work done by the call center administration folks to tune voice recognition specifically for phone use.
It's not as difficult as you are making it out to be.
Well, by the time it's a problem, we'll all be retired with millions of dollars in the bank am I right?!
Yeah, I get your COBOL/Y2K joke...
16:9 aspect monitors really suck when you have all these programs and documents (such as websites) that are designed to be used/viewed in a portrait orientation. Anything they can do to reduce the vertical size of a program's GUI clutter is good by me. I'd rather have things that are available only as needed via a popup menu than an always-there titlebar, menu bar, URL bar, two toolbars, a bookmarks bar, a tab tray, a status bar, the OS dock/taskbar... you know what I mean? Condensing the GUI is good.
Ah, but hold the phone for a second. Any company with a call center, especially those with IVR systems, has been recording for years. Thanks to the regular maintenance and tuning of those systems, companies such as (for example) Apple may not be as far behind Google as you think. All the voice recognition app developers have to do is talk to the call center managers to get cleared to access those recordings, then talk to the IVR tuning people to get years and years of tuning data, and they now have a decent starting point. This is something you could probably do at any large corporation that has had IVR since the '90s. As far as I know, Google is late to the party with that kind of stuff. I'm impressed that they are so good for so little time, but they're still playing catch-up.
Bunker rush!
You can probably find a Linux port for a commercially-available toaster, too.
That's a wild and crazy accusation. I don't even know what you're talking about.
BRB, searching forums to find the syntax of some undocumented combination of methods I need to call via PowerShell 2 to fix an issue I'm having with cluster shared volumes...
You betta believe it!