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Teens Share Passwords As a Form of Intimacy

nonprofiteer writes "The New York Times claims that the hot new trend among teenagers in love is to share passwords to their email and Facebook accounts, as the ultimate form of trust. According to Pew, 33% of teens surveyed say they do this. One expert says the pressure to share passwords is akin to the pressure to have sex. Forbes says don't do it! 'There is something pure and romantic about the idea of sharing everything, and having no secrets from one another. But it's romantic the same way that Romeo and Juliet is romantic, in a tragic, horrible, everyone-is-miserable-and-dies-at-the-end kind of way.' Sam Biddle at Gizmodo writes about which passwords are okay to share (like Netflix), but says to stay away from handing over email or Facebook passwords. 'We all need whatever scraps of privacy we have left, and your email is just that.'"

533 comments

  1. You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're just a jealous bitch, mom! You don't understand that Daniel and me are going to last FOREVER!! I HATE YOU!!! I HATE YOU!!

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    1. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does this outcome occur before or after the significant other has had time to open a new account on DeFacedBook.com?

      How many 'tragically' lost PhaseBook accounts will it take before FaceBook offers a biometric option for account recovery?

    2. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Honey, he just wants to sleep with you to get your password. Just give him a blow job and leave him. That'll show him!"

    3. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clearly her password is "omgi3>daniel"

    4. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by forkfail · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Two coming of age talks:

      1. The birds and the bees.

      2. Internet security.

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    5. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My daughter is six. The internet security talk happened last year. I'm not looking forward to the birds and bees talk in a couple of years.

    6. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Talderas · · Score: 2

      Based on trends you may want to do it next year.

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    7. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, with the internet maybe she will update you on the birds and bees

    8. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Real simple solution for this solution. Invite Daniel over for dinner. Begin peppering Daniel and your daughter about wedding plans and telling him how much you'll love having him in the family. They'll be split up in two weeks tops.

    9. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      invite him hunting.
      even faster

    10. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Clearly her password is "omgi3>daniel"

      I can't tell whether you meant to draw a heart ("<3") or it was supposed to represent boobs and crotch.

    11. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't the bees supposedly dying out? If you wait long enough this might be a non-issue.

    12. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      Not when you consider that the bees are getting replaced by a "fun guy" with a virus. In that light, might be time to start the gun collection ;)

    13. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not combine the two into one grand talk?

      OK, you're 14 now, it is time for us to talk about a few things. If you have sex with someone, use a condom, and make sure you do not sign their public key unless you really trust them.

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    14. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Hentes · · Score: 1

      Although after you had the second talk you can just let your kid wander free on the net, they will discover material substituting the first one soon enough.

    15. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Pope · · Score: 5, Funny

      OK, you're 14 now, it is time for us to talk about a few things. If you have sex with someone, use a condom, and make sure you do not sign their public key unless you really trust them.

      Why does this sound like an XKCD comic?

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    16. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just let her browse internet porn on an unpatched version of Windows XP so you won't have to say a word. And remember: the best kind of parenting is lazy parenting.

    17. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Gription · · Score: 2

      This happens right before they read their "undying love's" email from that other REALLY hot person and change their whole lifestyle to a goth theme to match the blackness in their heart.
      (It also allows them to express their individuality... just like all of their other friends...)

    18. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by jgtg32a · · Score: 4, Informative

      Of course
      http://xkcd.com/364/

    19. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ha ha

    20. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by GPLHost-Thomas · · Score: 1

      You got a point here. If you can share your "facebook and email password", then probably, it's an unsafe, dictionary based, low entropy password.

    21. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, you're 14 now, it is time for us to talk about a few things. If you have sex with someone, use a condom, and make sure you do not sign their public key unless you really trust them.

      Why does this sound like an XKCD comic?

      Because it, more or less, is: http://xkcd.com/364/

    22. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Cruel+Angel · · Score: 1

      I may steal this for a .sig

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      1) Never tell people everything you know.
    23. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 1

      I sign public keys while wearing a condom.

    24. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by bky1701 · · Score: 1

      Conversely, if they sign your public key, you might as well have sex with them. This could be quite uneasy for all those Linux developers.

    25. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bosco

    26. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "You're just a jealous bitch, mom! You don't understand that Daniel and me are going to last FOREVER!! I HATE YOU!!! I HATE YOU!!"

      "It's all right, dear. Your brother showed me a safe place to store your passwords, intimate photos, and jot down your deepest thoughts.

      It's called "4chan". What an odd name...."

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    27. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't put it past a teen to not actually screw up the emoticon because they never saw why it's supposed to be a heart.

    28. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You're way behind the times, you need to do that at about 11, not 14, nowadays.

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    29. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      invite him hunting. even faster

      Well, yes, if you arrange for him to have a fatal hunting accident. Plus, it will make the daughter realise who's the daddy.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    30. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      If you work for a certification authority, don't have sex at the bathroom of your workplace, and then sign his parking slip for the visitor's garage...

    31. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by aonaran · · Score: 1

      Most password safe programs have an export button.
      The real question is why are your facebook account and e-mail account(s) using the same password?

    32. Re:You don't understand, I LOVE HIM!!! by dacaldar · · Score: 1

      This isn't redundant, it's exactly what I thought, and it wasn't already mentioned (at least in the thread order I'm reading)...

  2. Netflix by ShakaUVM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wait, it's okay to share your Netflix password...?

    I can think of at least three reasons why that's a bad idea.

    1. Re:Netflix by ryanov · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and unnecessary. What is the positive here?

    2. Re:Netflix by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and unnecessary. What is the positive here?

      Whooo! Who put that movie in my queue?

      For the Lulz, of course...

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    3. Re:Netflix by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Wait, it's okay to share your Netflix password...?

      I can think of at least three reasons why that's a bad idea.

      Well, if they're cohabitating with you, then maybe you do want to share the Netflix password because you want to watch a movie together. That is, unless you set your Netflix client to remember your password for you so your significant other could use Netflix without knowing the password.

    4. Re:Netflix by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no real positive here. This is just like sending naked photos of yourself to your bf/gf. It makes no damn sense to *give* someone blackmail material on you that can be copied easily and posted for the whole world to see if they get pissed at you. They do it because there is the short term feeling of trust shared between them, but with no conception of the long term consequences involved. In a way it's like the Romeo and Juliet syndrome: even though we have never had another relationship, we know we are perfect for one another, so you're not allowed to take any precautions, because otherwise it means you don't actually love me. You have to go whatever extreme I do, because we are in True Love, whether that be giving away passwords or committing suicide.

      tl;dr: Teens think because they know more than babies do that they know everything. They haven't got a clue.

    5. Re:Netflix by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2

      Wait, it's okay to share your Netflix password...?
      I can think of at least three reasons why that's a bad idea.

      Busty Trannies 1 (aka Dude looks like a lady)
      Busty Trannies 2 (aka This time she's hung)
      Busty Trannies 3 (aka The lady gets his man)

    6. Re:Netflix by El+Torico · · Score: 1

      I don't know which is more disturbing, the fact that someone made these movies, or that there was enough interest to support two sequels.

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    7. Re:Netflix by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Netflix doesn't have porn.

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    8. Re:Netflix by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      Netflix allows you to set up sub-accounts for this reason. My girlfriend has a sub-account for when she wants to watch movies on her PC. For the Wii, we just use my account because it stays logged in. The only downside is logging into a sub-account often throws Netflix in a redirect loop that returns an error on Fx/Chrome/Opera and crashes IE (IE doesn't do well detecting loops)

    9. Re:Netflix by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      Just because there's sequels doesn't mean there was interest... or at least not enough to justify making two GOOD sequels. Look at all of the movies that got two sequels greenlighted at the same time... the Matrix, Pirates of the Caribbean , Busty Trannies 4 and 5, etc

    10. Re:Netflix by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2

      You're not looking hard enough (no pun intended, although it would be a pretty good pun if it were indeed one).

    11. Re:Netflix by sourcerror · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Everyone thinks they know everything except geniuses.

    12. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can think of a few men and women in their sixties who have that thing in common with Teens.

    13. Re:Netflix by Firehed · · Score: 2

      Last I checked (before the Flixter debacle, for reference), sub-accounts were only allowed to manage the queue but not stream. Has that changed?

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    14. Re:Netflix by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no real positive here. This is just like sending naked photos of yourself to your bf/gf. It makes no damn sense to *give* someone blackmail material on you that can be copied easily and posted for the whole world to see if they get pissed at you.

      You can't think of a single positive benefit of getting your partner sexually aroused looking at you? You don't think there's any relationship saved, intensified or even started by receiving or having erotic pictures of your partner? Long-distance relationships, temporary absences, love letters with a picture saying more than a thousand words? People have done that since the 19th century you know, shortly since they invented photography. Okay be the cynic and say the benefits don't outweigh the risks, particularly now that it can go all over the Internet but you'd be pretty blind to not see how it could help in courting women.

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    15. Re:Netflix by houghi · · Score: 2, Funny

      even though we have never had another relationship, we know we are perfect for one another

      I tried explaining something like this to my girlfriend. I told her I wanted to PROOF she was the only one and because of my love for her I slept with other women. She did not agree and told here I went behind her back.

      I then proposed to to take these women home and share the bed with the three BECAUSE I loved here and wanted her to see that proof and be part of it. That was also not an option.

      Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I sure can't figure out what she wants from me.

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    16. Re:Netflix by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      Used to be able to stream under it, but now we can't even log into it because of the redirect loop - tried it on multiple computers in every major browser except Safari.

    17. Re:Netflix by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      Netflix allows you to set up sub-accounts for this reason. My girlfriend has a sub-account for when she wants to watch movies on her PC. For the Wii, we just use my account because it stays logged in. The only downside is logging into a sub-account often throws Netflix in a redirect loop that returns an error on Fx/Chrome/Opera and crashes IE (IE doesn't do well detecting loops)

      Netflix sub-accounts (unless there is a hidden option I am missing) do NOT have "watch instantly" capabilities, probably for this very reason. Otherwise, why would anyone get their own watch instantly account when they can just have a friend/relative give them a queueless sub-account to do it for free?

    18. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone that thinks they know everything is starting to be a real PITA for those of us that really do.

    19. Re:Netflix by pablodiazgutierrez · · Score: 1

      It saves someone $10 a month at no cost to the other...

    20. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      tl;dr: Teens think because they know more than babies do that they know everything. They haven't got a clue.

      Trouble is, nowadays they can just point to any of the scrappy brats getting international fame and/or making their first million simply because they code something clever and flashy at the age of 16 or so, while the old fogeys (some even as much of geezers as 25 years old! zomg tahts so oooooold) have a hard time making ends meet. Then they can ask you who hasn't got a clue.

      At that point, the correct choice of action would be to slap their smartass faces clear across the room, of course, but if they've been trained by the internet (that is, by us ) to be self-centered remorseless little fucking trolls, they'd call the local news stations and child protective services (in that order, mind) and you'd be jailed for the crime of making any physical contact with your own child and have your reputation ruined for life. Then, once again, they'd ask you who hasn't got a clue.

    21. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then why do they do it?

      It's like a car imo, I'm down to let my other drive it as much as she wants, but I have to be aware of it / be there. It's not just something for her to take when she feels like it. Maybe 10 years down the road ya, but till then ;) Same w fb, she can look at it all she wants w me, sit at my computer etc, there is no reason I can think of she needs to be in my fb w/o me. If I choose to cheat, that's still my choice (not that I'd want to), plus people who get caught over fb / known online accounts cheating must be really dumb. A phone makes a lot more sense, not pass wording your phone implies some serious trust :)

    22. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thanks for taking the time to share the count the reasons

      thanks for taking the time to share that retarded string of gibberish. try using preview.

    23. Re:Netflix by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Probably not the waist measurement!

      Hint: Always include your waist measurement in your password!

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    24. Re:Netflix by ShakaUVM · · Score: 2

      As any good academic, I left it as an exercise for the reader.

      But since you asked so nicely:
      1) It could be considered illegal streaming by Obama, or at the minimum, a breach of the Netflix TOS to give away your account password.
      2) Your "Recently Watched" queue might get you in trouble, depending on your SO. There's some pretty hot movies on Netflix, such as Room in Rome, which is basically two naked women chatting and making out for 1.5 hours. I thought it was well-acted. My wife didn't.
      3) If you are a person that uses the same password on all or multiple sites, you've now shared multiple passwords.

    25. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or men.

    26. Re:Netflix by djdanlib · · Score: 2

      I've seen this before. People share their Netflix passwords so they can leave it logged in at their S.O.'s house and they can have one account that they both share, to save money and watch movies together wherever they happen to wind up. It's usually someone's parents' account, too. Meh, I don't think it's a great idea, but there's your answer.

    27. Re:Netflix by Bensam123 · · Score: 2

      Perhaps it boils down to trust... something that is sucked out of your soul after it gets raped by the world a few times.

    28. Re:Netflix by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      I can't even find my own recently watched queue, it no longer appears in my playstation netflix app, how is anyone else supposed to look at it?

    29. Re:Netflix by datsa · · Score: 1

      The positive is intimacy, which is in short supply today. There are no consequences if there's genuine trust and love. Not that that's always the case, but Jesus, stop thinking like a security analyst for five minutes.

    30. Re:Netflix by shiftless · · Score: 1

      It makes no damn sense to *give* someone blackmail material on you that can be copied easily and posted for the whole world to see if they get pissed at you.

      Yeah, and a) the person who did it then looks like an asshole, b) you can simply change your password if the wrong person knows it.

      They do it because there is the short term feeling of trust shared between them, but with no conception of the long term consequences involved.

      Actually I'm pretty sure they have a very clear conception of the "long term" "consequences" involved...i.e....NONE. I mean, what, you thought cause you gave your email password to a friend when you were 14 that it's going to somehow come back and haunt you 20 years later? Maybe if you're stupid enough to never change your password.

      Password security is NOT that important for a 14 year old, or even most 40 year olds. Passwords are stupid and flawed anyhow and things will be 10x better when they are replaced by some better form of authentication.

    31. Re:Netflix by shiftless · · Score: 1

      but you'd be pretty blind to not see how it could help in courting women.

      Or a typical Slashdotter

    32. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can simply change your password if the wrong person knows it.

      Assuming they don't do so first?

      Won't bother responding to the rest, because its retardedness is self-evident to anyone with a brain.

    33. Re:Netflix by Golddess · · Score: 1

      While I've never dealt with sub-accounts, last I checked there was a limit to the number of devices that you can register to stream to. So it's not like you could create an unlimited number of sub-accounts and enable streaming on all of them.

      And before you ask, it's real easy to remove a device if you should exceed that limit. As long as only the master account could do this, I could see streaming to sub-accounts as being no problem (The MPAA on the other hand...).

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    34. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with you, busty trannies totally jumped the shark after 2. The trannies started to be less busty from 3 onward, and by Busty Trannies 7: Electric Mandingo, they are barely distinguishable from rent boys.

    35. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be considered illegal streaming by Obama

      What the fuck does this have to do with Obama? Your (the you in the figurative sense, not the literal one, though it does apply to you personally as well) obsession with him has really gotten out of hand.

    36. Re:Netflix by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      Obama has made it a mission to eliminate illegal streaming. A while back, he was talking about it all the time.

      It could become a felony.

      http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/obama-ip-czar-wants-felony-charges-for-illegal-web-streaming.ars

    37. Re:Netflix by Lando · · Score: 1

      The more you learn the more you realize you don't know. So the wise man understands he knows almost nothing.

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    38. Re:Netflix by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Must....get....to....the....top...of..mom's..basement!

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    39. Re:Netflix by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      They ain't calling anybody with my knee on their neck.

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    40. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for that; I was looking for something to "Copyright Infringe" to protest COPA!

      "Room in Rome"

      Signed "Not a Pirate"

    41. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, dickshots are an integral part of my courtship strategy.

    42. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The star wars prequels?

    43. Re:Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were doing ok until the "you'd be pretty blind to not see how it could help in courting women" part. Usually it's women sending photos of themselves to their men. Women aren't visual (well not as much as men anyway) so it doesn't work the other way so much.

    44. Re:Netflix by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      FYI, I forgot to put my reference

    45. Re:Netflix by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Everyone thinks they know everything except geniuses.

      I don't know anything about country and western music, preparing sushi or writing Arabic love poetry, so I must be a real genius.

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    46. Re:Netflix by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it boils down to trust... something that is sucked out of your soul after it gets raped by the world a few times.

      It's always amusing to hear teenage cynicism on slashdot.

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    47. Re:Netflix by Millennium · · Score: 1

      You can't think of a single positive benefit of getting your partner sexually aroused looking at you?

      Oh, I can. It's just that the smart way to do this is in person.

      You don't think there's any relationship saved, intensified or even started by receiving or having erotic pictures of your partner?

      Nope. A breakup forestalled and made considerably messier when it happens, yes, but relationship so far gone as to truly need such things is beyond the point of salvage. Best to get the breakup over with -make it quick and clean, without blackmail material persisting for decades to come- and introspect as to what went wrong such that things got to this point.

      Long-distance relationships, temporary absences, love letters with a picture saying more than a thousand words?

      As someone who made it through eight years long-distance and multiple "temporary absences" per year: nope. Maybe it's just because my relationship is strong enough to not need such illusions. This isn't a difficult thing to establish, it just takes determination and patience.

      "Love letters with a picture saying more than a thousand words" is a romantic cliche, but it has no bearing on, and very little reflection of, reality.

      People have done that since the 19th century you know, shortly since they invented photography.

      Certainly they have. Many have lived to regret it, and that proportion only increases as communication technology improves.

      Okay be the cynic and say the benefits don't outweigh the risks, particularly now that it can go all over the Internet but you'd be pretty blind to not see how it could help in courting women.

      If this were a tool for courting women, or of any real help at all in doing so, then why are there so many more women sending pictures to men than the other way around, and why are women the only ones getting burned in the end?

      Simple: because it doesn't help in courting women, and its only "help" in courting men is in providing an illusion of strength and stability in a relationship that features neither.

  3. Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not sure why this is news. There's a reason your record is expunged when you turn 18. Perhaps the same should apply to online accounts.

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    1. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It isnt expunged when you turn 18. It is sealed but still exists and can be accessed depending on the circumstance.

    2. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Teens do a lot of dumb stuff

      Yeah but there is a difference between normal teen stuff like having unprotected sex and stuff that can cause serious harm in their later life like sharing passwords.

    3. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Bah. When I was a Teen, and I shared my Password as a form of intimacy I would have gotten a response at best "Your such a Nerd!" (Back then a Nerd wasn't good) at worse she would walk away from you, and place a restraining order on you because you were just too weird.

      I was an out cast partially because I had an Internet account of my own, with Email. When I explained why I liked it they just looked at me if I was from outer space.

      Oddly enough By my Sr. Year things started to change and the Internet stated to become cool, as well I started to become a little more popular, but by that time I was use to being unpopular and I didn't welcome this new popularity.

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    4. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      What stops you from changing password upon break-up?

      The problem is more immediate one, like people grabbing very private info and posting it to all your friends as revenge. But effects of such things is rarely as far-reaching as "when you become adult". By that time, most of your private transgressions would be dismissed as "well, those were the crazy teen years, yeah".

    5. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because getting your GF pregnant, or getting an STD will certainly not cause serious harm later in your life

    6. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 5, Funny

      When I was a Teen, and I shared my Password as a form of intimacy I would have gotten a response at best "Your such a Nerd!" (Back then a Nerd wasn't good)

      Yeah. Offering Sysop access to my dialup BBS never got me laid.

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    7. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      And the way its starting to look, 'circumstance' can be 'the wind is blowing...

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    8. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Banichi · · Score: 1

      IANAL. Your record isn't necessarily automatically sealed. You may need to contact an attorney to have it done.

    9. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah but there is a difference between normal teen stuff like having unprotected sex and stuff that can cause serious harm in their later life like sharing passwords.

      So you're saying teen pregnancy doesn't cause serious harm?

    10. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Helping a very attractive girl w/her assembly language assignment over 30 years ago got me laid for several years -- maybe you weren't doing it quite right.

    11. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What stops you from changing password upon break-up?

      What stops you is the other person logging in and changing your password before you can.

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    12. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by pablodiazgutierrez · · Score: 2

      o <----- joke

      empty
      space
      here

      o <----- you

    13. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      You give them password to the account. Not the email's password. Like the xkcd goes, "at least I didn't give her the root password".

    14. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

      Offering Sysop access to my dialup BBS never got me laid.

      Then you were offering it to the wrong girls. ;)

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    15. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      The New York Times claims that the hot new trend among teenagers in love is to share passwords to their email and Facebook accounts

      That is what is actually occurring. Once they change your email password you're sort of screwed.

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    16. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isnt expunged when you turn 18. It is sealed but still exists and can be accessed depending on the circumstance.

      What is this "it" you are referring to? The "permanent record" that schoolkids are threatened with?

    17. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Helping a very attractive girl w/her assembly language assignment over 30 years ago got me laid for several years -- maybe you weren't doing it quite right.

      Do you honestly expect us to believe that a *girl* had an assembly language assignment?

    18. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by allo · · Score: 1

      and they change the mail address associated with your account. Fuck.

    19. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by sirlark · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It doesn't matter if your crimila/government records are sealed, expunged or otherwise made unavailable. Your facebook account, and your friends and ex-friends facebook accounts still exist. And those compromising photos too...

    20. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woosh!

    21. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by pcairic · · Score: 1

      having unprotected sex *can* cause serious harm in their later life...

    22. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Nadaka · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yea, might have worked with the right guys.

    23. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Again, "root password" issue. Give him/her you passwords to everything but "root" email which is the email you will use to change stuff. You shouldn't event use this email for anything else, because you don't want it visible for anyone.

      Granted, when we're talking about teens, hormones and feelings... you and NYT are absolutely right. I'm extrapolating from non-infatuated adult's point of view, and that's a wrong thing to do in this case.

    24. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by karnal · · Score: 2

      Back when I was a teen; me and my girlfriend shared our passwords to our accounts on the computer system at school. During our computer classes, we could log into the (netware) system and look on each other's drives for documents (we didn't have email, this was 1992). Simple yet effective way of passing notes.

      Of course, don't change the password then and not tell her. Man, I got in a lot of trouble for that :)

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    25. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Which in most cases fires an email to your old account asking "did you authorize this change?". You did not, you inform them, you get password reset and new one sent to your real email.

    26. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly what happened to me. And now the SAME PEOPLE are harassing me to get on Facebook and call me a luddite because I like to own my private data.

    27. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by FrankieBaby1986 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't they be able to just change the email associated with the account to be their own?

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    28. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      In other words he is a sicko professor who traded sex for a passing grade.

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    29. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      What stops you from changing password upon break-up?

      Her changing the passwords before telling you about the break-up.

    30. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by allo · · Score: 1

      almost no webservices sends first e-mail to the old account. And its better this way, because maybe you changed the mail, because your old mail account was hacked?!

    31. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right, there is a difference... One can get you pregnant and follow you the rest of your life, and one can get your facebook hacked. I don't think that teens should share passwords either, but I wish people would stop comparing it to unprotected sex. and teens are not the only ones who share passwords idiots.

    32. Re:Teens do a lot of dumb stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Teens do a lot of dumb stuff

      Yeah but there is a difference between normal teen stuff like having unprotected sex and stuff that can cause serious harm in their later life like sharing passwords.

      WHAT!? Am I unique in thinking that "having unprotected sex" is NOT "normal teen stuff", and can "cause serious harm in their later life"!?

  4. TOS by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Plus it's usually a thundering Terms of Service violation.

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    1. Re:TOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly this. Post all over your Facebook account that you share all your passwords with your BF/GF then see how quickly your credit card company does the weasel dance if you ever have to make a claim for identity fraud. For my sins I did a couple of months working on phone support for the company that supports several large banks/CC companies and their policy was an instant "sorry, goodbye" if you suggested you'd shared your login details or pin number (your heart would sink when they admitted they lost their wallet and their card was in there along with their pin number scribbled on a post-it).

    2. Re:TOS by loufoque · · Score: 1

      While are PIN numbers relevant? You don't need them to purchase things.

    3. Re:TOS by josath · · Score: 1

      You need them to take money out of an ATM. Also, if you make a purchase with a debit card using the PIN, you get less protection (coincidentally, the bank makes less money in fees from the purchase as well)

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  5. XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    XKCD covered this years ago http://xkcd.com/215/

    1. Re:XKCD by Eil · · Score: 0

      Um, no? Since when is deleting a user from a system the same thing as giving them your personal passwords?

    2. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      you realize there is additional text when you hover the mouse over the picture right?

    3. Re:XKCD by ciderbrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Shh, they'll have to go back and read 1005 of them!

    4. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try reading the alt-text.

    5. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, only the first couple hundred that are any good.

    6. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nay, look at http://xkcd.com/540/ for "sharing root passwords"

    7. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is the one you should be referring to

      https://www.xkcd.com/364/

    8. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No - the relevant XKCD is http://xkcd.com/540/ (Base System).

    9. Re:XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this one is more appropriate:

      http://xkcd.com/364/

    10. Re:XKCD by allo · · Score: 1

      sadly its true for the actual comics as well.

    11. Re:XKCD by Tooke · · Score: 1

      You scoff.

      So much for homework today...

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    12. Re:XKCD by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      *this*
      The first time I discovered XKCD about a year and a half ago I started at the beginning and went through them all. I decided Randall is not only smarter then me, but smarter than most of those I think of as mentors.
      A week later someone told me that there was alt text that needed to be read as well.
      *sob*
      back to the first comic I went and started over. To be fair I learned stuff from the alt text.

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    13. Re:XKCD by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      To find those "first couple of hundred that are any good", you have to pretty much read them all (though you can start by skipping the first couple of hundred, since none of them are any good).

    14. Re:XKCD by JRHelgeson · · Score: 1

      Anonymous hookups?
      http://xkcd.com/364/

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    15. Re:XKCD by vnaughtdeltat · · Score: 1

      XKCD also covered what happens when you DO give her the root password: http://xkcd.com/340/

  6. I can't remember my husband's passwords by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And vice versa. He's a number guy, I'm a language person. So his passwords are long strings of numbers, and mine are long strings of words and symbols.

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    1. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I can rest assured that my girlfriend will never remember my oft-used password "Soviet Russia Beowulf Netcraft Libraries of Congress"

    2. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 2

      WTF? Really?

    3. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      *facepalm* And this, my friend, is why so few people here admit to being female.

    4. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why did you exchange passwords in the first place? There's never a good reason to share passwords. If it ever seems like a good idea to share a password, that's a symptom of a poorly developed user permissions system.

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    5. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 4, Insightful

      She's married, asshole. And if she weren't, I'm sure she didn't come to Slashdot to be facetiously and pseudonymously hit on.

    6. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      She probably didn't come here to be earnestly and pseudonymously white-knighted by desperate nerds either, but here you are anyway.

    7. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1, Informative

      Perhaps she actually *likes* Monty Python. I know girls who do...

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    8. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      Why bother with more than one Pandora account when you like the same music?

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    9. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by ryanov · · Score: 1

      Do not assume you know her motives.

    10. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      Usually I just roll my eyes and ignore it, but I wanted to thank you for your gallantry here.

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    11. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by DriedClexler · · Score: 2

      How could a long string of words and symbols be hard to remember? I mean, most of us here are like your husband, but what kind of string are you talking about? What's an example?

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    12. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      Ever see a line from a Shakespearean sonnet in camel case 1337?

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    13. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      hunter2

    14. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Chris+Hodges · · Score: 1

      Sharing an amazon account within the family for kindle content makes a lot of sense - but keep a dedicated account for the purpose.

    15. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Perhaps she actually *likes* Monty Python. I know girls who do...

      To this day, I am surprised by the fact that my wife makes more Python references than I do ... and often obscure ones.

      She's not into geek things usually, but apparently some old room-mates were huge fans ... so occasionally I've looked at her like "WTF are you on about", and then she tells me which Python sketch she's just quoted.

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    16. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Why did you exchange passwords in the first place? There's never a good reason to share passwords. If it ever seems like a good idea to share a password, that's a symptom of a poorly developed user permissions system.

      Which doesn't negate the fact that the Internet is rife with poorly developed user permissions systems, thus necessitating password sharing if you do want/need to share owner-level access with someone. Case in point: Netflix. Because instant watch is only available on the main account, we have to share that account. Yes it's stupid, but that's Netflix for you.

      Similar situations exist for many bank and credit card accounts. The fact that they've designed their security poorly does not obviate the need for us to share owner-level access to those accounts.

      Just because you know it's a bad idea doesn't mean that there's an alternative available.

      On the other hand, my wife is someone I'd trust with my life. If you don't have that in a relationship, I pity you. Because here's the thing - once you get to the point where you've decided you're going to grow old and die together, sharing passwords as needed becomes less-than-trivial.

    17. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      "0!735tTh3W0r7d5h0u7dT4skY0uT0R3c1t5"

      Damn, sis. That is pretty 1337.

      Props, yo.

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    18. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by cpt_lare · · Score: 0

      All I see are stars...

    19. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      Yeah. I'm the bad guy for calling out an asshole. BTW - she appreciated it. http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2629106&cid=38749938

    20. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      Really? That is what you had a problem with?

    21. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      It'd make more sense for Pandora to allow you to copy another user's musical preferences... what if your tastes change, you split up, etc?

    22. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      Part of estate planing? You know, just in case.

    23. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I can rest assured that my girlfriend will never remember my oft-used password "Soviet Russia Beowulf Netcraft Libraries of Congress"

      Yeah, I too like to pretend that Natalie Portman is my girlfriend.

    24. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sure she didn't come to Slashdot to be facetiously and pseudonymously hit on.

      Why not? People certainly don't come here for the deep, unique, insightful commentary or the thoughtful and understanding replies. Sure, perhaps in Soviet Russia ... but not here, where all things exist in moderation. :-)

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    25. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      My life is one thing, my password is totally different!

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    26. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      I usually do the same. But it seemed so uncalled for. It's not as if you lead with an innuendo or double entendre.

    27. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by houghi · · Score: 3, Funny

      All he has to do is remember the ASCII code of your password.

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    28. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 4, Funny

      My gallantry is bigger.

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    29. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      I see what you did there.

    30. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by mjr167 · · Score: 1

      And the responses to your comment are a clear example of why people don't admit to being female around the internet. I hope you continue to slap our assholes around cause they need it. Someone has to speak up. Good job.

    31. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you'll find they're talking about Monty's python.

    32. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by KhabaLox · · Score: 2

      Maybe because they're married? My wife and I share a lot of our passwords. iTunes, so that we only have to worry about one account... Banking, so that we can both access the account to pay bills, transfer funds, etc. Unless you're one of those couples (like one of our couple-friends) who keeps their money separate, you almost *have* to share passwords on some accounts.

      For teens, or unmarried dating adults, I don't see much of a case though.

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    33. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords

      And vice versa. He's a number guy, I'm a language person.

      I can't help but be reminded of the Phantom Tollbooth's Mathemagician's letter to King Azaz and the difficulties they had communicating. I read the book maybe ten years ago and I still find parts of it relevant in day-to-day conversation.

    34. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      I found it interesting that the responses seem to implicitly assume that I'm male, as if only males can or would stand up to assholes.

    35. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      On second thought, it was maybe sexual attraction that was assumed. Because that is the only motivation for anything?

    36. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by brainzach · · Score: 1

      There's never a good reason to share passwords.

      I tell my wife to update my Facebook status or order something off of Amazon.

      I also share passwords with my coworkers sometimes because sometimes they get locked out of their account and have to use mine and vice versa.

    37. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go write it on your blog or something. Pathetic.

    38. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by zidium · · Score: 1

      No... I just register each Kindle device myself. I never would give someone my Amazon password!! Then they could surreptiously buy stuff on my credit cards so easily I'd end up bankrupt!

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    39. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for making the white-knight comment even funnier with that response. Would mod if had points

    40. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, THAT will work.

      Hey baby, how would you like to dictate my identity to me with your preferences? I'll go along with whatever you say.

    41. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was the first time I modded Troll and the first time I found a really valid reason to mod Troll. Way to insult our /. women you douchebag.

    42. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, your email is eric.

    43. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by icebraining · · Score: 2

      Or maybe they clicked on your nickname and saw your email. As far as I know, there are few females called "eric".

    44. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would you feel if you were in a forum that randomly bashes and singles out nerds? Maybe you could take that kind of crap, but many don't bother and move elsewhere. This isn't about being a knight in shining armor, this is about being supportive of a minority demographic that can contribute a much valued perspective to this forum.

    45. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by cffrost · · Score: 1

      I found it interesting that the responses seem to implicitly assume that I'm male, as if only males can or would stand up to assholes.

      I think it was more likely assumed that only a male would be named Eric.

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    46. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by khr · · Score: 1

      It'd make more sense for Pandora to allow you to copy another user's musical preferences... what if your tastes change, you split up, etc?

      That'd be a bit like opening Pandora's Box...

    47. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're entirely wrong. It's easy to state one's opinions in a way that doesn't put one's own gender on display.
      She should have anticipated the obvious reactions to her post, which implies that she chose to post her comment knowing what replies she would receive, so, yes, she did come to Slashdot to be facetiously and pseudonymously hit on.

      Try to think a little more before you mindlessly echo the precepts hammered into you by your cultural overlords. You are presumably capable of independent thought--try to act like it!

    48. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I realized that the assumption was sexual attraction. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2629106&cid=38750976

    49. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      I realized that is was sexual attraction that was the implicit assumption. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2629106&cid=38750976

    50. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife and I keep our money in separate accounts with a single shared account. She knows all my passwords and I know hers. I guess I just trust her. But I must admit that opening up my facebook account to her was more intimate than my bank accounts. I mean who hasn't friended their old high school flame who was alittle(ok, a lot) crazy?

    51. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 2

      state one's opinions in a way that doesn't put one's own gender on display.
      She should have anticipated the obvious reactions to her post

      And this is where I'm going to call you out, you homophobic jackass. Which of the following language was "putting one's own gender on display"?

      my husband's ... a numbers guy, I'm a language person

      "sandytaru" is a person with a husband. It is not evident what his or her own gender is.

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    52. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      She should have anticipated the obvious reactions to her post. which implies that she chose to post her comment knowing what replies she would receive

      I think this says more about you than her.

    53. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by sydneyfong · · Score: 1

      What's your username?

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    54. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by PlatyPaul · · Score: 1

      All I see is *******....

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    55. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      Yea, she doesn't clean it out very often. Scary stuff in there.

    56. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by the+phantom · · Score: 2

      I'm married. My wife and I have joint checking and savings accounts. Since we have total control over each other's finances, what is the harm in sharing passwords for everything else? Moreover, there is a benefit in knowing each other's passwords, in that we don't need to have separate accounts for single services, and if something happens to one of us, the other has the credentials to deal with the aftermath.

    57. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Calydor · · Score: 1

      My god, it's full of stars.

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    58. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      "sandytaru" is a person with a husband. It is not evident what his or her own gender is.

      I'm sorry to break it for you, but reality has a well-known heterosexual bias.

    59. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry to break it for you, but homophobes have a well-known heterosexual bias.

      FTFY.

      We are well beyond the point where you can automatically assume that anyone who calls someone their husband is a woman.

      And for all GGP's smugness over the fact that this person on the internet had the audacity to imply that they were female and should have known what to expect, GGP wasn't even correct, because the post hadn't actually implied any such thing.

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    60. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      And this is where I'm going to call you out, you homophobic jackass.

      The guy (assumption) that you're replying to is certainly a jackass. He may well be homophobic, but really you have no evidence for that.

      "sandytaru" is a person with a husband. It is not evident what his or her own gender is.

      It is certainly possible to be a gay man and married. However, statistically, (especially also given the number of places that actually allow gay marriage) the OP is far more likely female than male. Also, "Sandy" is IME much more common (though not exclusively so) a female name. Multiply the two probabilities and you're looking at a pretty small chance that the GP is, in fact a man.

      Remember: you are prepared to draw the line at sufficiently small probabilities (you assume that the GP is a person, after all).

      Anyway, the poster was not being homophobic, he was being a different kind of jerk. In normal conversation, people's geneder (and their orientation, via their partner's gender) may well become evident without excessive unnecessary care and circumolcution. He is being a jackass to think that female posters should take far more care in conversation than male posters in order to avoid being hit onn by other jackasses.

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    61. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      To the netflix thing:
      They could fix this easily by allowing sub accounts to stream, but only if another account is not currently streaming. The main account gets the same error, but with the option of bumping the currently playing stream.

      As to PWDs, another excellent reason not to share with anyone other than a priest while confessing, a Lawyer on your retainer, or a spouse is privilege. They can not be forced to divulge the info.

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    62. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      The guy (assumption) that you're replying to is certainly a jackass. He may well be homophobic, but really you have no evidence for that.

      As my reply to the other commenter went, homophobes have a well-known heterosexual bias.

      By assuming (as you admit, without solid proof) that the comment was made by a woman, their own heterosexual bias was showing. I.e. it was a homophobic assumption to make.

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    63. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by HyperQuantum · · Score: 1

      You should have been modded Insightful instead of Funny.

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    64. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I.e. it was a homophobic assumption to make.

      No it was overwhelmingly the right choice. Also noone is going to take away your liberal card if you make reasonable assumption (read reply to ALIY).

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    65. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Netflix: yeah, I won't say it would be easy to fix... but certainly manageable. I remain pissed off over that one - our queue is a jumbled mess and we both get recommendations that we wish we didn't. But it does illustrate my point: poor technical design decisions don't change the needs of end users.

    66. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, my wife is someone I'd trust with my life. If you don't have that in a relationship, I pity you.

      It's not always about not trusting the person. If you worked for one of the Three Letter Agencies, you wouldn't share national secrets with her, would you?

    67. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it was a choice which was certain to make him look like a jackass, and had a small but non-zero probability of making him look like an even larger jackass. That is not the right choice by any stretch of the imagination.

    68. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      And this is where I'm going to call you out, you homophobic jackass. Which of the following language was "putting one's own gender on display"?

      "sandytaru" is a person with a husband. It is not evident what his or her own gender is.

      Protip: stupid contrarian shit like this doesn't help anyone's cause. Just because someone assumes (with a confidence of greater than 99% at this point) that having a husband implies that someone is a woman does NOT make them a homophobe.

      --Jeremy

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    69. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where does it indicate a gender? They could be from San Fran? Could be an open marriage so STFU until you actually know something because this is Slashdot after all.
        oh wait....

    70. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with a confidence of greater than 99% at this point

      This being the internet, mr. genius statistician, and furthermore, a tech site, you might want to take into consideration that married women are probably under-represented and gay men are probably over-represented. Dimwit.

    71. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly, you've never dealt with a shitty divorce.

    72. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by KhabaLox · · Score: 1

      If that were to occur, I think my wife having access to my FB page will be the least of my worries.

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    73. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I suppose it's different in the US, but Monty Python isn't a geek-only thing in Britain.

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    74. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Or maybe they clicked on your nickname and saw your email. As far as I know, there are few females called "eric".

      Maybe she chose the name eric as symbolic of her struggle against oppression?

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    75. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      No, you're entirely wrong. It's easy to state one's opinions in a way that doesn't put one's own gender on display. She should have anticipated the obvious reactions to her post, which implies that she chose to post her comment knowing what replies she would receive, so, yes, she did come to Slashdot to be facetiously and pseudonymously hit on.

      I bet you think that women in short skirts are "asking for it."

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    76. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      She's married, asshole. And if she weren't, I'm sure she didn't come to Slashdot to be facetiously and pseudonymously hit on.

      She?

      The person went out of their way not to mention their gender:

      He's a number guy, I'm a language person.

      ... probably just wanted to avoid turning this thread into a homophobic rant or something. Instead, he got hit on by somebody mistaking him for a girl...

    77. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      You seem uptight. It'd be easier to pull those statistics from you-know-where if you didn't clench.

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    78. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by glodime · · Score: 1

      Only 3% of the US population self identifies as homosexual. I went with the odds.

    79. Re:I can't remember my husband's passwords by Anonymus · · Score: 1

      Personally? Because I actually trust my wife and she trusts me. I know, that's exceptionally rare these days. We live together, share bank accounts, have a child together, have a mortgage together, etc.

      Oh no, if things go sour she could post things on my Facebook account or reset my Slashdot password. She could also change the locks on the house, flee the state with my kid, or any number of other things that are far worse, and yet I *gasp* trust her not to do them.

      99.99% of every system in existence is a "poorly developed user permissions system", I'd rather have the convenience of being able to check bank account info while my wife is not at home, or to be able to call and have her forward an email from my account to someone while I'm on the road.

  7. There is hope for the future. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This seems like a good trend in my opinion. After getting burned hardcore in relationships that go bad, maybe people will take password security more seriously by the time they get to the workforrce.

    1. Re:There is hope for the future. by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      No, it's not. This is akin to learning about safe sex and responsibility by getting pregnant. We don't want people to have to learn these lessons by experiencing the worst possible scenarios that we are trying to avoid. This could affect your finances, and if you are dumb enough to do this, you probably take naked photos of yourself as well and post those to "private" sites, secured only by your.... password.

      When I was a kid, I was told to not put my fingers in electrical sockets. Sure, it probably wouldn't kill me if I did, and I'd probably have learned my lesson, but I never *needed* to electrocute myself, even a little bit, to actually not do it.

    2. Re:There is hope for the future. by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      you should try it, its an electrifying experience.

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  8. Savages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men."
    Ayn Rand

    1. Re:Savages by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men."
      Ayn Rand

      Sounds like that woman had a lot of issues. Hope everything worked out for her.

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    2. Re:Savages by maple_shaft · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men." Ayn Rand

      Ah yes because every man is an island unto himself, no? A tribe does not need privacy because everybody in the tribe depends on each other for survival, you can't depend on those you don't trust, you can't trust those you do not know, you cannot know those who are private.

      Civilization only requires privacy because there are far too many people to know meaning you can only trust and depend on very few people. What is more fundamentally human? We evolved to live and survive in tribes not cities, how many feel at place and purposeful in society as compared to those who live in tribes? Do you really feel that Rand was a happy fulfilled person?

      We can decry the actions of these teens as stupid, naive and foolish and we would probably be correct, but consider that the things a teenager most desires above all else is autonomy, purpose, and belonging. Sharing is a primal instinct that we instinctually do and emotionally require to feel close and secure to others. Civilization is a cold bitch, and it is hard to feel like an accepted member, much easier with a clique of friends that you wish to share everything with.

    3. Re:Savages by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Erm, you know that sharing private information with the people close to you has nothing to do with societal privacy, right?

      But hey, it's a good way to demonstrate you don't actually understand Rand's writings.

    4. Re:Savages by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ayn Rand was right when she said that eventually, the people who are productive will abandon the masses who rely upon them. Only mistake she made was, it's the capitalists with their silly green tickets who are going to be abandoned.

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    5. Re:Savages by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      but consider that the things a teenager most desires

      Why did you give her your password? Boobies and vagina.

    6. Re:Savages by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      At first it seems like a brilliant quote, then you see who said it and realize that it's only brilliant when taken out of the original context :-(

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    7. Re:Savages by Kjella · · Score: 1

      A tribe does not need privacy because everybody in the tribe depends on each other for survival, you can't depend on those you don't trust, you can't trust those you do not know, you cannot know those who are private. (...) Civilization is a cold bitch, and it is hard to feel like an accepted member, much easier with a clique of friends that you wish to share everything with.

      Tribes don't need privacy, people do. Ask people that have moved from a small place where everybody knows everybody and many of them absolutely hated it, anything you did that was at odds with the community they stuck their noses in. It doesn't mean people like it, it means they got no alternatives and for the same reason they weren't going to start a conflict or badmouth it and make everything worse. It's the same reason more people don't break out of sects, it's everything and everyone they know.

      Yes, "civilization" as such is cold and everyone feels like belonging somewhere. But having thousands of people within minutes from my house means I got thousands of cliques and communities and clubs and groups and activities to make those friends. If you got ten good friends I doubt it matters if there lives a hundred or a thousand or a million people nearby who are not your friends. Same as the Internet, there's a billion people here I don't know but I only care about the ones I do know or would like to know.

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    8. Re:Savages by s2v16 · · Score: 1
      Stuff that gets modded insightful in Slashdot... What an argument full of holes"

      "Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men." Ayn Rand

      Ah yes because every man is an island unto himself, no?

      Here you seem to be referring to the "no man is island phrase", that's fine.

      A tribe does not need privacy because everybody in the tribe depends on each other for survival, you can't depend on those you don't trust, you can't trust those you do not know,

      What a load of bullshit. If you get violently ill, how well will you have to know the doctor in the emergency room before you allow him to treat you? How well do you know the people in the utilities companies that provide you your water and electricity? Or all the people who are needed to get your food to the supermarket? Or do you not depend on any of these people?

      you cannot know those who are private.

      True, but you don't need to know them to depend on them for survival.

      Civilization only requires privacy because there are far too many people to know meaning you can only trust and depend on very few people.

      Again, you must have some weird definition of the phrase "depend on".

      What is more fundamentally human? We evolved to live and survive in tribes not cities, how many feel at place and purposeful in society as compared to those who live in tribes? Do you really feel that Rand was a happy fulfilled person?

      We can decry the actions of these teens as stupid, naive and foolish and we would probably be correct, but consider that the things a teenager most desires above all else is autonomy, purpose, and belonging. Sharing is a primal instinct that we instinctually do and emotionally require to feel close and secure to others. Civilization is a cold bitch, and it is hard to feel like an accepted member, much easier with a clique of friends that you wish to share everything with.

      I get that your whole argument is that we have an urge to give up some measures of privacy in order to go back to some tribal ways, but the rest of the argument is entirely flawed.

    9. Re:Savages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think the deal with the tribe is more that the bigger people own the smaller people. You can't have privacy because you're not allowed to do anything without Alpha's approval, and everyone else is playing enforcer because that's how you rise in the ranks of privilege.

      Funny how that hasn't actually changed at all, despite our best efforts at becoming "civilized."

    10. Re:Savages by maple_shaft · · Score: 1

      What a load of bullshit. If you get violently ill, how well will you have to know the doctor in the emergency room before you allow him to treat you?

      Unless the doctor is getting paid by somebody, he will not treat you. Society has decided that we care enough for those we do not know that we will not allow money to determine who receives emergency care. Somebody however has to pay the doctor. If the doctor was in your tribe he will treat you because you are a peer and the tribe works together for communal survival. A tribe has no need for money. This is the point I was trying to convey. Money is only necessary when the size of a society is such that you cannot possibly know everybody. This is an affront to the natural state of humanity.

      My argument about dependence is that any dependence in society is unreliable without a sufficient amount of money. I can't depend on anybody if I run out of money. I am worthless without it. My wife however finds me worth life itself and I didn't have to pay for her. These teens seem to do stupid things because they are acting trusting and tribally out of instinct, but ultimately they haven't yet learned the unnatural realities of a cold society.

    11. Re:Savages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll give her my passwords when she gives me the key to the chastity belt her parents put her in when she hit puberty. What do you mean the lock's rusted shut? LOCKSMITH!

    12. Re:Savages by s2v16 · · Score: 1

      Don't be too sure - at least where I live, the major source for this sharing of passwords comes from distrust: it's done so that the avenues for cheating are fewer (as in, so the other person can check your e-mails and private messages to see if you're being or trying to be unfaithful).

    13. Re:Savages by guspasho · · Score: 1

      Beautiful comment. +1 if I had mod points to give.

    14. Re:Savages by Millennium · · Score: 1

      Isn't that pretty much the definition of an ad hominem attack?

    15. Re:Savages by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Not at all, it's about context.

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    16. Re:Savages by Millennium · · Score: 1

      What, then, is the context that renders this problematic? The grandparent appears to state that the problem context is the person who said it, which would be an ad hominem.

    17. Re:Savages by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      She was referring to government and cooperative society in general, rather than personal privacy.

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  9. 1/3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    33%? Did they poll 3 teenagers?

    1. Re:1/3 by ifrag · · Score: 1

      Actually, there was a link in TFA to the actual survey (I know, why bother right?). N=770. Somewhat more significant.

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  10. Luggage combination. by SeNtM · · Score: 3, Funny

    My password is the same as my luggage combination.

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    1. Re:Luggage combination. by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2

      hunter2

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    2. Re:Luggage combination. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ********

      Huh... That's weird.

      Somebody else try it. I wanna see if that works with root passwords too.

    3. Re:Luggage combination. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ******

    4. Re:Luggage combination. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see what you did there, mine's ******* ;P

    5. Re:Luggage combination. by forkfail · · Score: 1

      Mine would be too... if I could find luggage that took 30+ character passwords :/

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    6. Re:Luggage combination. by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      I know it's a bash.org reference, but if I copy/paste an obscured password, I end up with the stars/dots instead of the actual password
      "confirm password" fields don't recognize it as the same

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    7. Re:Luggage combination. by Laurence0 · · Score: 1

      IME, it normally depends if you've typed it in yourself. If it's been provided as your "current password", then it's not actually your password 'cos being able to copy/paste would be a ridiculous security flaw, but if you've typed it just then, and not submitted it, copy/pasting usually seems to work.

  11. MySpace generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I remember countless moronic dramas of high school kids claiming that their MySpace had been "hacked". By which they mean, they'd shared the password with all their friends and acquaintances... and one of their 50 odd fellow schoolmates changed their profile and changed their password.

    Surely, though, this should really be a prompt for people to have more intelligent permissions systems for web services. We handle shared bank accounts just fine, so why haven't websites and other online services come up with family accounts, sub-accounts and so on other than as an 'enterprise' feature? Proper security starts at home.

    1. Re:MySpace generation by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      I remember countless moronic dramas of high school kids claiming that their MySpace had been "hacked". By which they mean, they'd shared the password with all their friends and acquaintances... and one of their 50 odd fellow schoolmates changed their profile and changed their password.

      Surely, though, this should really be a prompt for people to have more intelligent permissions systems for web services. We handle shared bank accounts just fine, so why haven't websites and other online services come up with family accounts, sub-accounts and so on other than as an 'enterprise' feature? Proper security starts at home.

      Sub accounts? At home? For the demographic that couldn't handle setting up a MySpace page so people didn't have seizures viewing it?

      Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    2. Re:MySpace generation by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      that's something I'm sure Facebook at working on as the Next Big Thing - linked or sub accounts where you can share some details with a guest while still allowing FB to datamine both accounts to serve even more ads.

    3. Re:MySpace generation by supremebob · · Score: 2

      What I loved is when some dumb kid put down MY e-mail address when creating his MySpace account, and I started getting his messages. All I needed to do was click the "I forgot my password" link and enter my e-mail address to change the password on his... er.. my account.

      I wonder if his friends enjoyed the messages I sent them as much as the spam his friends sent me :)

    4. Re:MySpace generation by djdanlib · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised how much effort they put into making these things look so bad. It takes a lot more work to get all those crapplets to live together in dubious harmony than to just go with a clean site.

      But you're right, sub-accounts? "You don't trust me! Waaah!"

    5. Re:MySpace generation by omnichad · · Score: 1

      They didn't have email verification? That's a stupid move...

  12. Can we just encourage old vices instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd much rather my kids be having sex than sharing passwords.

    1. Re:Can we just encourage old vices instead? by war4peace · · Score: 3, Funny

      What, between themselves?
      PERV! :)

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    2. Re:Can we just encourage old vices instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be silly, of course not.

      With him.

    3. Re:Can we just encourage old vices instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in my day, we just emailed nekid snaps of ourselves. Now *that* was trust. Kids these days....

    4. Re:Can we just encourage old vices instead? by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Ah. Sounds legit now :D

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  13. What next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pin code and the 3-digit CC security number?

    1. Re:What next? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      That probably cost as much as getting married living together for a time and getting divorced. For every girlfriend.

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  14. Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by davidwr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember kiddies, using your ex-boyfriend's social networking password can be a felony!

    Heck, even using your current boyfriend's passwords with his permission may be a felony in certain circumstances, especially if a financial transaction, medical-history-information, or intentional deception of anyone is involved.

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    1. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regardless of content it would still be illegal, even with permission from the significant other. The account provider/site did not give permission, the SO's permission is irrelevant and has no authority.

    2. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regardless of content it would still be illegal, even with permission from the significant other. The account provider/site did not give permission, the SO's permission is irrelevant and has no authority.

      Sharing of passwords, any passwords, is a stupid, stupid idea. You should never do it, under any circumstances.

      That said, your attitude is far more dangerous and worrying. The account provider/site has no authority to grant or deny permission to how I share my accounts. The provider is like a bank. The building may be theirs, but the money I deposit is mine. The account is mine. I can do as I please, and will continue to do as I please despite their illusions of power.

      It just so happens that I'm not an idiot, so I choose to never share my passwords.

    3. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Spouses more often than not share not several, if not all of these things that are all extremely well protected against anyone trespassing without consent
      - apartment
      - bedroom
      - fluids
      - bathroom
      - bathtub
      - table
      - car
      - landline telephone
      - fax machine
      - answering machine
      - DSL connection
      - bookshelf
      - videoshelf
      - snail mail box
      - savings account
      - house mortgage account

      Any of those would be horribly illegal for anyone else to even know its contents, let alone actually use it.

      Now tell me why it is perfectly normal for anyone to use the same physical mailbox and landline and fax machine, reading your spouses faxes, postcards and landline missed call information but horribly, feloniously, jail-temptingly illegal to share one electronic mail box and read their mobile phone missed calls and text messages?

      Why is snail mail share by most couples and sharing email pervertly illegal? People share savings accounts, bodily fluids, several million instances of their chromosomes and much worse things in their bedrooms but a shared email password would be a perverse no-no?

      I don't get it.

    4. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      or intentional deception of anyone is involved.

      Which pretty much covers any use of social networking. "John Smith is Online".

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    5. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      The account provider/site has no authority to grant or deny permission to how I share my accounts.

      Wrong. They can grant access to the authorities under certain circumstances. They can deny access to anyone, including you. The money you deposit to a bank is no longer yours, you're now an unsecured creditor. If the bank goes bankrupt, you're SOL (unless the government bails them out).

    6. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by jpapon · · Score: 2

      The money you deposit to a bank is no longer yours, you're now an unsecured creditor.

      Actually, in the USA deposits are 100% insured up to $250,000, so you're in no way an unsecured creditor.

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    7. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But my best fweind's name is Jonnus Smithus!

    8. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by shiftless · · Score: 1

      All the more reason to ignore the law

    9. Re:Remeber kids, stay safe and legal! by Skidborg · · Score: 1

      I hate to break it to you, but the TOS agreement you signed when you join practically any online service does explicitly give them the power to disable your account if you share your password with other people. They are not your accounts.

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  15. How stupid by Synerg1y · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And in other news...divorce continues skyrocketing,

    Seriously kids, realize that your significant other can lock you out of your own accounts on breakup, and you can't recover everything via your phone #, pretty sure like... netflix, email providers that aren't google.

    1. Re:How stupid by sandytaru · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Happened to a friend's family a year or two ago. The husband had control of all the accounts. All of them. So he was quietly siphoning funds from his wife's accounts to his own, without telling her, and then took off one day with over six hundred thousand dollars, leaving her with a thousand in her account with the mortgage payment due in a week. That was a very, very, very messy divorce.

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    2. Re:How stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not even getting to divorced. I was a member of a WoW guild "shared" by a couple, and they shared accounts to a degree. Nice people individually, but as a couple? One had a rabid ex. The other was a tad unstable, and ended up having a kid with their during this. They went back to their ex. Safe to say, they finally had enough and broke up.

      Nobody is denying it was the unstable person's account who personally kicked everyone in front of witnesses and then disbanded the guild. However, according to said witnesses they didn't say anything at all. Said unstable person two hours earlier was in a manic swing to rejuvenate the guild after it was in a bad spot from the java.

      Unstable said the ex thrashed the guild using their account. Everyone knows said person was..., well, unstable and going from manic to destructive is in their personality.

      Imagine this being done with your financial or other accounts.

    3. Re:How stupid by maple_shaft · · Score: 1

      If you don't mind my asking, how did that all turn out for your friend? I have seen it happen where my friends wife up and left him, sabatoged his personal accounts and siphoned off all of his money, and the courts still forced him to pay her alimony despite the fact that he didn't cheat and that she worked.

    4. Re:How stupid by pclminion · · Score: 0

      You know somebody who had $600,000 in CASH sitting around? What... the... fuck. And apparently, money didn't buy happiness in that case. Wow.

    5. Re:How stupid by RazzleFrog · · Score: 1

      $600K in cash sitting around and yet this still had a mortgage payment. I wonder what the house is worth that you wouldn't just pay it off.

    6. Re:How stupid by war4peace · · Score: 2

      Years ago, a girl I loved dumped me after 7 years of relationship and a few months later, her sister's ex-boyfriend contacted me and gave me her e-mail address password.
      Reading her e-mails was... informative. I found out that she'd been cheating on me and her other boyfriend with some other men (complicated, I know!), and other nice things related to her present job. She and her sister shared lots of... amazing things in e-mail exchanges.

      It was an informative reading because it basically opened a somewhat secret world to me: the mind of a woman (two, actually), transferred electronically into Yahoo Mail.

      I was smart enough to not alter the account at all, but print out those e-mail exchanges and log in every now and then to find out what's new. Her current husband would LOVE to see those. But I've gotten over the hurt; I came to realize it won't really help anyone.

      Still, I sometimes log in to see what's new. Interesting reads, I tell ya.

      But as far as me and my wife go, I know her e-mail credentials but she doesn't know mine (not that I kept them secret but she never remembers them). Also I admit I leave my home computer on, with my GMail e-mail tab open, so she doesn't even need a password. I trust her enough to let her browse my e-mail if she feels the urge. She never feels the urge though because she ain't touching my computer with a 10-foot pole (proper wife training does that). But leaving my e-mail open helped me in a couple situations, e.g. when that damned Blackberry outage occurred and I had no way to access the Internet but urgently needed some info from my e-mail account.

      Well, I guess what I'm saying doesn't apply to teens, but then again, I figured from experience that their e-mail/Facebook accounts are full of crap anyway, so really, nothing of value is lost if their accounts go FUBAR because of shared passwords :)

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    7. Re:How stupid by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 1

      Assuming you aren't a troll, that is some excellent compartmentalization you've got going on there. I found out that she'd been cheating on me and her other boyfriend with some other men (complicated, I know!), ... Her current husband would LOVE to see those. But I've gotten over the hurt; I came to realize it won't really help anyone.
      How about her current husband who may be exposed to STDs? And this part is strange as well, She never feels the urge though because she ain't touching my computer with a 10-foot pole (proper wife training does that).
      So you believe in wife training but won't snitch on your Ex to her current husband. Nice compartmentalization.

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    8. Re:How stupid by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, you don't want to be in family court and have a penis. It's not going to work out well for you.

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    9. Re:How stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! Someone who can compartmentalize between a joke and a serious matter!

    10. Re:How stupid by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 0

      Maybe they're in California. I've heard that 600K barely bought a shack at the height of the boom there.

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    11. Re:How stupid by kidgenius · · Score: 1

      No, he just doesn't care either which way about his ex. BFD. Staying out of anyone else's life keeps his life simple. I can't say I disagree.

    12. Re:How stupid by jgtg32a · · Score: 0

      Maybe it was in a broker account and the only reason there was a mortgage was because they were making more money off the money in the broker account than the interest was costing them?

    13. Re:How stupid by LocalH · · Score: 1

      There was nothing saying that the $600,000 came from her account all at once. Over time, a little here and a little there, and I could see $600,000 building up. Especially if money that was meant for the mortgage payment was included, and depending on how long of a process this was.

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    14. Re:How stupid by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Sounds logical to me... He believes in only getting involved when it's necessary, and that most things, in the long run, aren't worth dredging up just to make a mess of current circumstances. This applies to his ex-gf AND his wife.

      However, I'd suggest that he leave off monitoring the ex's email, as it's both a felony and at odds with his projected morality.

    15. Re:How stupid by Kevin+Stevens · · Score: 0

      I would mod you up if I had the points. Current rates on a 15 year mortgage are around 3.25%. Its cake to beat that by investing in blue chip dividend stocks, especially when you take the tax benefits into account. For instance, ATT has a 5.8% dividend yield right now: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=T

      I hate debt with a passion, and it actually annoys me that my mortgage rate is so low it doesn't make sense to pay it off.

    16. Re:How stupid by bky1701 · · Score: 1

      This is a prime example of why you should never get married. Men always get screwed if it goes south, so the whole thing has essentially become a trap. Stay away.

    17. Re:How stupid by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Well it's simple really.
      I don't know the guy. Also, maybe she has changed ever since, it's been 11 years; people change. Your mentality is "once a criminal, always a criminal". I believe in second chances. Besides, why would I ruin a possibly perfect marriage? Out of spite? Maybe a good couple months after she messed my life I would have had that. Now, it's all bleak, but distant memories.
      As for her current husband exposed to whatever, not my problem. Me and her have been strangers for so many years.

      As for "wife training", I simply have told her that my machine holds stuff I worked hard for (lots of various work that I've accomplished) and that I wouldn't want that data to disappear. I'm not touching her netbook (unless she asks me to fix stuff), she ain't touching my PC. I also backed up her data to my PC, including her personal diary, which I'm not going to ever read because I think she is entitled to have personal, private, her-eyes-only data.

      And nope, no trolling whatsoever.

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    18. Re:How stupid by war4peace · · Score: 1

      It's not a felony in my country; electronic messaging is not really well covered by law. As long as you have obtained the credentials from someone else, as a passive recipient, you don't break any laws. I would have, if I altered anything (the country law covers that), but as far as reading electronic data if you have the credentials, that's no felony whatsoever around here.

      I haven't accessed that e-mail in a good year now, and frankly don't see why I would get back there.

      And yeah, messing with someone else's life brings nothing but trouble. I have warned a good friend once about his girlfriend being very slutty, he never talked to me ever since (not even after they divorced because she fucked pretty much everyone she could). Not worth the hassle. If they find out, they better find out themselves, and if not, again, not my problem.

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    19. Re:How stupid by Skidborg · · Score: 1

      And here we have it folks: there really are creepy stalkers on the internet.

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    20. Re:How stupid by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      The felony issue isn't to do with your country so much as it is to do with the country where Yahoo hosts is mail servers... as shown by the NZ and UK arrests by the US recently, they don't really care what country you live in anymore if they can link it back to a local server.

      As long as you never plan to visit the US (or have an airplane stopover in the US) or any of its allied nations with extradition treaties though, you should be fine.

    21. Re:How stupid by ShakaUVM · · Score: 0

      On top of that, you get to write off your mortgage interest payments, so it's like 2%.

      You can get investments that will guarantee you a 3% return. No reason to pay off your house with cash when there's better things to do with your money.

      Also, it's a bit risky to have a paid-off house. A friend of mine is getting his assets attacked by the government because they know there's no mortgage company that will put up a stiff legal fight on his behalf. Asset forfeiture queen Margaret Mims (catchphrase: "Leading the charge against constitutionality!") is behind that one. He's not accused of any crime; they just want to take his assets since they're broke.

    22. Re:How stupid by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      Having $600k but still having a mortgage repayment would be a perfectly possible situation in many places.

      For example, $600k is equal to or less than the ~average~ house price in much of Australia, for instance. And in places like Sydney or Canberra it'll only buy you a pretty entry level house if you want to live anywhere even vaguely close to the city.

      Of course, this being Slashdot you can usually make the default assumption that the GP is American, so this doesn't apply. But remember that property in much of the world is more expensive than the US. American property is perceived as being super cheap here, actually (a lot of quite middle-class people go over, buy up a few American houses for the price of a single place in Australia, and rent em out or renovate them and resell for a profit).

    23. Re:How stupid by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Have you checked your word definition generator lately? It's clearly defective: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

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    24. Re:How stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Stalking is a term commonly used to refer to unwanted and obsessive attention by an individual or group to another person. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person and/or monitoring them via the internet."

      I'm reasonably certain his ex would consider it unwanted attention if she became aware of the fact that he logs in to her e-mail periodically to "see what's new". He apparently needs to get over more than just "the hurt".

      I'm not going to go so far as to say his voyeuristic attitude of fascination with this brand-new insight into "a somewhat secret world ... the mind of a woman" was always entirely wrong - his ex's sister was within her rights to share her end of the conversations, including e-mails that she had received. And yes, that would be very enlightening for him I'm sure. But giving him access to the ex's e-mail account crossed the line, and the fact that he still logs in to glean new tidbits is not only voyeuristic but also very much wrong. He's basically satisfying the itch for gossip at her expense, and he's totally breaching her privacy in the process.

    25. Re:How stupid by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      My wife would never let me have the password to her email account. Yet the idea of me having the root password on the email server doesn't bother her. People are funny. Especially the ones who don't know what "root" means.

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    26. Re:How stupid by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      This was the case. They paid a million dollars for their house at the height of the housing boom, although it had dropped down to $800K when the market bottomed out. Amazing, beautiful home. He had made it big in Silicon Valley and she was a head nurse at a hospital. They were like the perfect charmed couple when I met them (I am friends with their daughter) and they let my husband and I stay in their beautiful home for two weeks while we were in CA on vacation. When we saw the house, we were like, "She never told us her parents were rich."

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  16. Joint Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sites should provide a way to allow joint access or multiple passwords. The joint password could have all the power of a regular password, except for the ability to change the master password. The trick is to figure out how to make it look like the joint password is a master password. You could present the holder of the joint password with a fake "change master password" screen, and inform the holder of the master password if they attempt to use it. Of course you'd only need to do this if the other person said something like, "No, give me your MASTER password. I really want to be close to you".

    It's hard not to think of "electronic condoms" or "faking orgasms" here...

    1. Re:Joint Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sites should provide a way to allow joint access or multiple passwords. The joint password could have all the power of a regular password, except for the ability to change the master password. ...

      No. People should realize that privacy (as the summary stated, "what little remains") is incredibly important and should be respected. I've been in more than a few situations where I've actually gotten into arguements because I wouldn't share a password, because it means I have "something to hide."

      Right. My life is already plastered around because of Facebook, G+, Twitter and my bank; why should I open the gates a little wider?

    2. Re:Joint Access by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Sites should provide a way to allow joint access or multiple passwords.

      It's called user accounts and permissions. This is yet another reason why "Web 2.0" is a huge step back. This problem has been solved for decades.

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    3. Re:Joint Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doh! I forgot to log in.

    4. Re:Joint Access by TheLink · · Score: 2

      Subconsciously you're just refusing to share your password with Slashdot...

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    5. Re:Joint Access by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      That isn't that bad of an idea.
      Say facebook, you setup a special joint account that temporary merges all your data together. And your friends and their friends are combined. Then when/if you breakup the data can dis-join

      Usually I am the one taking the picture and posting it on facebook under my account just for my wife to take it and put it on hers so her friends and see the same pictures my friends do...

      I do not let her to use my accounts though, nor do I use hers, but because we do things together it would be nice to have a joint account that can be separated if need be.

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    6. Re:Joint Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couples share bodily fluids, more often than they should without any form of protection against horrible, deadly and incurable diseases. They either trust a long-term partner or don't care.

      So many people readily and stupidly share bodily fluids with a random stranger they've just met in a bar. So few would, even after 10 years of marriage, share their email password with their spouse.

      People value email privacy more than their own dear life, and their spouse's, and the random stranger's. What a bunch of morons.

  17. This just in! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Teens do stupid shit!

    News at 11.

    1. Re:This just in! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The phrase is " Film at 11," not "news."

    2. Re:This just in! by allo · · Score: 1

      wayne?

  18. Mistake in the summary by forkfail · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'We all need an illusion of whatever scraps of privacy we have left, and your email is just that.'"

    Because we sure as hell don't have any privacy left anymore.

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    1. Re:Mistake in the summary by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      Because we sure as hell don't have any privacy left anymore.

      I do. But then again I almost never use Facebook (my profile picture is a self-portrait... of a monkey) and prefer using face-to-face communication if at all possible.

      The people who post pictures of themselves drunk and stoned on Facebook? Of course they don't. But they never really should have expected any, either. Anything on the Internet is automatically not private unless you personally ensure it is (i.e. through encryption).

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    2. Re:Mistake in the summary by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      I do even better: I do not have a Facebook account, and I do not care about then.

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    3. Re:Mistake in the summary by stanlyb · · Score: 1

      What about people posting pictures on their wall, showing YOU drunk and vomiting....oh, i know i know, you did not expect to have any privacy.

    4. Re:Mistake in the summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Webbugs" on this page alone:

      scorecardresearch.com
      doubleclick.net
      twitter.com
      google-analytics.com
      fb{countrycode}.net

      You may have not created an account with any of these services, but they are more than happy to create profiles on you and sell it to third parties anyway.

      I'm actually taking a marketing class at the moment, and let me tell you that consumer privacy never comes up...

    5. Re:Mistake in the summary by forkfail · · Score: 1

      Doesn't matter. You still have a Facebook presence. And a Google one. And probably a few others.

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    6. Re:Mistake in the summary by King_TJ · · Score: 1

      Actually, you've got all the privacy you're willing to fight for....

      Want email privacy? Use PGP on everything and convince all your recipients to do so to, or else they simply can't read what you send them anymore ....

      What the majority are really complaining about is the de-facto lack of privacy... the system that makes you really work to attain privacy, over and over again - losing it every time you slip up and forget to take the required precautions.

    7. Re:Mistake in the summary by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      I don't have friends who do that. If you do, I suggest you reconsider just how much of a "friend" they really are.

      Also, I try not to get that drunk either. Especially not in public where others might take such pictures.

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    8. Re:Mistake in the summary by tilante · · Score: 1

      Having a Facebook presence and a Google one != Not having any privacy. It's quite possible to share some information without sharing all information.

    9. Re:Mistake in the summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if you have no Facebook account, there still may be pictures of you drunk and stoned on there... :)

    10. Re:Mistake in the summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook knows you read Slashdot.

    11. Re:Mistake in the summary by dwye · · Score: 1

      > Because we sure as hell don't have any privacy left anymore.

      No, because email has no way to enforce correct ID, including legal sanction (at least in most jurisdictions). Ask anyone who ever received mail from god@heaven.org or the like. Add PGP or GPG or the equivalent and you can at least guarantee that no one has altered the email between you and another credentialed account (unless someone had a few moments of physical access, or was careless transferring their credentials, or reused the one-time pads [no, wait, that was the Soviet Union back in the late 1940s, until one of the Cambridge Ring passed knowledge of the mistake back to his not-English bosses]).

      Email is the secrecy-equivalent of communicating via postcards. Any privacy or security is only because of additional encryption, which may be illegal in some otherwise respectable countries (e.g., France at least as recently as 1999, which was the last time that I checked, not that I think they legalized anything secure in the meantime).

    12. Re:Mistake in the summary by NotSanguine · · Score: 1

      Want email privacy? Use PGP on everything and convince all your recipients to do so to, or else they simply can't read what you send them anymore ....

      "It was pleasant to me to get a letter from you the other day. Perhaps I should have found it pleasanter if I had been able to decipher it. I don't think that I mastered anything beyond the date (which I knew) and the [PGP] signature (which I guessed at). There's a singular and a perpetual charm in a letter of yours; it never grows old, it never loses its novelty .... Other letters are read and thrown away and forgotten, but yours are kept forever -- unread. One of them will last a reasonable man a lifetime." -- (with apologies to) Thomas Aldrich

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  19. Education by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We will never be able to keep teenagers from sharing passwords with each other. It's hard wired into them. If you try to forbid it then they'll find creative ways to do so secretly.

    The best method is to have Password Sharing Education, where you teach them safe practices regarding Password Sharing. We'll have a virus epidemic if we leave it up to chance.

    Clearly Forbes is just too conservative and stuck in his ways. Password Sharing abstinence has never worked, and it never will. And why should he impose his morality on everyone else? Teenagers should be free to share their intimacy through Sharing Passwords, as long as they know the risks involved and have a proper perspective on the meaning of the act.

  20. Sounds ripe for emotional abuse by CaptBubba · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Giving your significant other power over your socialization and friendships on this level just seems like it is going to give even more power to those who abusively control the other partner in their relationships. Not to mention the wonders that will occur if you break up with someone and don't change your password before they upload not-so-flattering pictures and send them to all your friends.

  21. Children acting childish... by JustinOpinion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Giving out your password as a demonstration of trust is just silly. I trust my boss with work-related things, but that doesn't mean I give him the passwords to all the servers at work. Why? He doesn't need them. I trust my mom, but I don't give her my bank PIN. Why? She doesn't need it. I trust my girlfriend but I don't give her my gmail password. Why? Because she has no use for it. The difference between strangers and people I trust is that I ~would~ give friends/family secret credentials, if there was a valid need (e.g. I was sick and needed my girlfriend to perform a financial transaction for me). But giving out the details just for fun is illogical, and insecure.

    Moreover, it's more a manifestation of a lack of trust. I don't care that I don't know my girlfriend's Facebook password... because I trust her. The only boyfriends/girlfriends who want each other's passwords are those who don't trust each other: they want to check up on what the other one is posting/saying. They don't trust them enough to let them have privacy or private conversations. I've seen this happen (my sister once had a jealous boyfriend who thought she was cheating on him and thus demanded access to her email and Facebook passwords so that he could check for himself... the relationship did not last).

    Overall, this whole "if you loved me you'd give me your password" is infantile. The appropriate response is: "If you respected me you wouldn't ask for it."

    1. Re:Children acting childish... by glodime · · Score: 0

      Bravo. Well written.

      Of course, adolescents show no sign of evolving past infantile emotional and logical hangups prior to maturity.

    2. Re:Children acting childish... by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      That would be the difference between A asking B for their password, and B offering A their password. The first instance is a sign of distrust. The second is a sign of trust.

      As for your sister, maybe it didn't last because the boyfriend's suspicious were founded. Do you think your sister would tell you if she were banging her next door neighbor while her boyfriend was at work? While there are some people that are unreasonably jealous, more often than not, when someone thinks their significant other is cheating, that is because they either are cheating, or are preparing to.

    3. Re:Children acting childish... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem there is you just posited a perfectly reasonable adult argument.

      Teenager brains don't (typically) work that way. There still viewing the world through a flood of hormones and lack of experience.

      In the perfect world, we would come up with a system to allow the teenager brain to interact with the real world without too many bad outcomes.

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    4. Re:Children acting childish... by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That would be the difference between A asking B for their password, and B offering A their password. The first instance is a sign of distrust. The second is a sign of trust.

      No, the second is a sign of a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of healthy human relationships, trust, and individuality. It is pure co-dependence. It's a form of emotional hedging which leads to emotional blackmail -- "I gave you my PASSWORDS! How can you DO this to me!"

      It's kids being naive stupid fucks, that's all.

      I used to keep two very big secrets from my wife. Those secrets put a terrible strain on our relationship. Eventually, I came out with it, I was met with understanding and forgiveness, and our relationship improved tremendously. I now hold no secrets from my wife, but I sure as hell do not give her my passwords nor does she give me mine. It has nothing to do with trust, it is about PRIVACY. If she wants to know something about me she can always ASK ME.

    5. Re:Children acting childish... by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

      I trust my boss with work-related things, but that doesn't mean I give him the passwords to all the servers at work. Why? He doesn't need them.

      When I explain new staff about our security policies, I explain them not to give anybody their password. They say OK. Then I say "Not even to me." They start to look a bit worried. Then I say "Not even to the CEO" and then they get confused.

      When I say "Not even to the IT guy who is repairing your PC" they are completely baffled and stare at me as if I am sore sort of drugs.

      Mmm. Perhaps I must try it out and ask after a week or so if they don't give me the password they are fired. See if they give it or not.

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    6. Re:Children acting childish... by theArtificial · · Score: 1

      I now hold no secrets from my wife, but I sure as hell do not give her my passwords nor does she give me mine.

      I couldn't resist, does that make sense to you? You don't give her yours, and she doesn't give you yours. Isn't that redundant? How can she if you don't share it with her. If you don't have any secrets doesn't that means she knows what your passwords are?

      Secret
      Adjective:
      Not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others: "a secret plan".

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    7. Re:Children acting childish... by brainzach · · Score: 2

      Stop being so cynical. I gave my GF my Facebook password because it felt good that I can trust her with it and vice versa.

      When you get married, you share finances which requires a lot more trust than any Facebook account. I know some couples who share email accounts too just out of convenience.

      If I am so worried about someone using Facebook to blackmail me, I would just change the password ahead of time. It's really no big deal.

    8. Re:Children acting childish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I am so worried about someone using Facebook to blackmail me, I would just change the password ahead of time. It's really no big deal.

      Hey, if your GF becomes your EX, she'll have a great breakup story... "One day I tried to log in to his facebook account... and THEN I KNEW"

    9. Re:Children acting childish... by pclminion · · Score: 1

      I couldn't resist, does that make sense to you? You don't give her yours, and she doesn't give you yours. Isn't that redundant?

      Yes, I made a typo.

      If you don't have any secrets doesn't that means she knows what your passwords are?

      I didn't call her into the bathroom this morning to examine the shape of my morning turd, does that mean I'm keeping secrets? Not telling somebody something is not the same as keeping a secret. If she wanted the passwords she could ask me. She doesn't ask me, because she doesn't need them.

    10. Re:Children acting childish... by pclminion · · Score: 1

      I gave my GF my Facebook password because it felt good that I can trust her with it and vice versa.

      More likely, you gave her your password because you thought it would get you laid. That's what I mean by emotional blackmail.

      When you get married, you share finances which requires a lot more trust than any Facebook account.

      If there's no trust there shouldn't have been a marriage. My wife could wake up one morning and decide she's the reincarnation of Pol Pot, I don't give a fuck. She's my WIFE. Trust? Trust doesn't even begin to describe it. Trust was the only reason I was able to reveal my secrets (which I was keeping out of shame, not fear -- hell, I'll even tell you what the secrets were: I drank way more than she knew about, and I smoked, which she thought I had quit doing).

      If I am so worried about someone using Facebook to blackmail me, I would just change the password ahead of time.

      That is not at all the kind of blackmail I was talking about.

    11. Re:Children acting childish... by psydeshow · · Score: 1

      When you get married, you share finances which requires a lot more trust than any Facebook account. I know some couples who share email accounts too just out of convenience.

      My wife and I always advise newlyweds to maintain separate bank accounts.

      Money troubles --- mostly differing expectations about how to spend -- account for a lot of friction in marriages, especially when money is tight. Having your own account (and splitting expenses equally) means you can do whatever you want with what's left over at the end of the month. Huge safety valve.

      Privacy is important to humans generally. The more privacy you build into a relationship (without being secretive!) the more robust it will be over time. Privacy keeps people from feeling trapped, it allows them to approach new things with grace rather than paranoia, and it gives them room to grow. Don't underestimate it.

    12. Re:Children acting childish... by brainzach · · Score: 1

      More likely, you gave her your password because you thought it would get you laid. That's what I mean by emotional blackmail.

      I gave it to my girl friend after dating for a year of a healthy relationship.

      If you don't want to give your wife your password, then its fine with me. I just don't see passwords as the most sacred thing in the world, especially for things like Facebook. I use common sense and would never give her something like my work passwords or launch codes to a nuclear missile.

      Sometimes I ask my wife to upload photos of me on facebook. Oh no! it must mean she can't trust me.

    13. Re:Children acting childish... by psydeshow · · Score: 1

      In the perfect world, we would come up with a system to allow the teenager brain to interact with the real world without too many bad outcomes.

      Bring back boarding school!

    14. Re:Children acting childish... by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Your explanation is exactly why she should have your passwords. You were being destructive, and her trust in you was misplaced. You have show that you are willing to hide things for her that she should know. Sure you say that NOW your not hiding anything, but no doubt that is what you said before also.

    15. Re:Children acting childish... by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      Stop being so cynical. I gave my GF my Facebook password because it felt good that I can trust her with it and vice versa.

      It has nothing to do with cynicism, it has to do with what having authenticators means. It means you've authorized your GF to BE you on facebook, to read your friends' info, who may not have chosen to share it with her, to send messages as if they're written by you. It seems a silly thing to do to me unless you intend those things to happen.

      "Sharing" finances isn't really the same thing. You still have your own unique identity. You don't go around as this indivisible mrandmrsbrainzach, you wander the financial world as your own individuals with your own financial identities which are linked in some ways. That's entirely reasonable. What you're doing is giving the future mrs a brainzach costume to wear into the bank to appear to be you.

    16. Re:Children acting childish... by pclminion · · Score: 1

      Your explanation is exactly why she should have your passwords.

      You're assuming my email is some kind of treasure trove of information I was hiding from my wife. The idea that there are people I'd confess that to before telling my own wife is laughable, even more ridiculous is the idea that I'd do it over email. I desperately wanted to tell my wife all about it but shame is powerful. Eventually I overcame that.

    17. Re:Children acting childish... by brainzach · · Score: 1

      Me and my wife have shared bank accounts for shared expenses and private ones for personal items.

      Different people have different views about privacy. My sister and her husband share the same personal email address. I gave my wife my Facebook password, but keep my Gmail account to myself.

      Those who insist on keeping everything private can be seen as just as paranoid as someone who demands everything to be open. If you really trust each other, it shouldn't matter one way or another.

    18. Re:Children acting childish... by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      I am making the very reasonable assumption that while you might not confess to someone over email, you very well might make arrangements, or make off hand comments to other people that would have given a reasonably intelligent person a good idea as to what you were doing. You clearly have a lot of denial going on, and your rationalization that your wife shouldn't be checking up on you is clearly part of that.

    19. Re:Children acting childish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is not at all reasonable assumption if you realize that it could have been a secret about past events, not something that was ongoing.

    20. Re:Children acting childish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the perfect world, we would come up with a system to allow the teenager brain to interact with the real world without too many bad outcomes.

      We do, it's called "Facebook" :D
      Problem is, the teenager brain think it's the real world... hmmmm....

    21. Re:Children acting childish... by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, a FOAF on Facebook is "named" TonyAndAndrea. I've seen him/her/them post on the friend's wall, I have no idea which of them actually wrote the post.

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    22. Re:Children acting childish... by pclminion · · Score: 1

      You clearly have a lot of denial going on, and your rationalization that your wife shouldn't be checking up on you is clearly part of that.

      You know what was the greatest thing I gained after coming clean, taking control of my own behavior, and vowing to be open with my wife? Self respect. Self respect that I hadn't felt in a long time. The knowledge that I *am* a good person, despite being imperfect. What used to be "secrecy" became simple "privacy," the sort that other people have.

      But above all, you know what my self respect gives me? The ability to tell you to go fuck yourself with a pointy stick and walk away, secure in the knowledge that I'm a good person who need answer to no one, least of all some pseudonymous fuck on the Internet.

    23. Re:Children acting childish... by brainzach · · Score: 1

      It is cynical because you think that it only must be a bad thing if I share my password on Facebook, like it is the most sacred thing in the world.

      Sometimes my wife posts pictures on my account and will respond to messages that her annoying family members send to me. She always asked for permission first and it is no big deal. I don't intend on her doing anything bad because we trust each other.

      And my friends who post things on their profile so their hundreds of friends can see, aren't serious about privacy either. It's Facebook, what do you expect.

      In my opinion, it is so much riskier sharing my finances. If teens were getting joint bank accounts, then it would be far more outrageous than sharing Facebook passwords. They can ruin each others credit scores, which represents their financial identities.

      \

    24. Re:Children acting childish... by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      If that what lets you sleep at night now.

    25. Re:Children acting childish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Had I mod points, so would you.

    26. Re:Children acting childish... by pclminion · · Score: 1

      So would I what? I don't understand.

    27. Re:Children acting childish... by martas · · Score: 1

      OK, now you HAVE to do this and post the result on YouTube. (OP will surely deliver!)

    28. Re:Children acting childish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to my wife. Not a day goes by where she doesn't ask me for my Amazon password!

    29. Re:Children acting childish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like the internet as a filter/training ground? aka cybersex in place of true coitus, facebook instead of real social interactions, bitcoins or lindens instead of real money? wait, I just described most of our lives....

    30. Re:Children acting childish... by theArtificial · · Score: 1

      Not telling somebody something is not the same as keeping a secret.

      I understand what you're saying about not telling every detail. That's a high level view. In regards to passwords specifically, not the relationship between your bowel movents and your wife, are passwords secrets? Enlighten us how/why they are not.

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    31. Re:Children acting childish... by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      That is interesting, and would be a different case, IMO. It's not Andrea masquerading as Tony or vice versa, it's Tony AND Andrea. Much like the bit of junk mail I just shredded isn't from Joe Blow, Marketing Pesterer, Verisign, Inc., it's just from Verisign.

      I have no problem with identity not meaning an individual human being. I think there are even reasonable cases for pseudonyms (this is one, obviously) or willful deception ("Hi, I'm from the CIA and I'm here to infiltrate you" doesn't go over well.). I just think it's silly to hand over the ability to pretend to be you as some form of demonstrating trust to your partner.

  22. At least..... by SwedishChef · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least you can change the password... pretty hard to return virginity.

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    1. Re:At least..... by stanlyb · · Score: 1

      You cannot, if the other one already did it....Pretty much like steeling your virginity.

    2. Re:At least..... by need4mospd · · Score: 1

      Pretty much like steeling your virginity.

      How do you mentally prepare your virginity?

    3. Re:At least..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean to somehow strengthen it? I guess you can take an oath or say something like, "I'm saving myself for my wedding night."

    4. Re:At least..... by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      Don't ask.

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    5. Re:At least..... by charlesj68 · · Score: 1

      How do you mentally prepare your virginity?

      The poster could have meant as in sharpening. Although that's a pucker-inducing thought ...

    6. Re:At least..... by Hentes · · Score: 1

      Or use a steel device made specifically for this purpose.

    7. Re:At least..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone loses their virginity, Chuck Norris CAN get it back.

    8. Re:At least..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      steeling your virginity.

      So you favor the "Men in Tights" style of chastity belt.

    9. Re:At least..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty much like steeling your virginity.

      So how's that chastity belt working for you?

  23. Email is private? by RobinH · · Score: 1

    Who goes around thinking email is private? It goes across public networks in plain text. If you check your email at your significant other's house, everything you see goes through a network device controlled by them.

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    1. Re:Email is private? by JustinOpinion · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's kinda silly. If I have a phone conversation in an empty room of a friend's house, then according to you it's not a private communication because I'm having it in a room controlled by someone else, and they could have bugged the room? Or if I write a personal letter in my office at work, it's not private because my employer may have installed a secret monitoring camera?

      The fact is that there are social conventions afoot: for example that my friends don't bug their houses and that my employer hasn't installed secret cameras (some of these conventions are in fact backed-up by laws). As such, even though someone ~could~ intercept my communication, it is presumptively private and people who circumvented that would be accused of violating my privacy.

      Similarly with networks. It's certainly possible for my friend to keylog their computer, or make copies of all traffic that passes through their router. But most sensible people would assume that this is not happening, and that doing so would be an invasion of the privacy of others.

      So, email is private. That doesn't mean it's un-interceptable (neither is postal mail: it's trivial to grab someone else's mail and read it). But those who intercept it are violating privacy. (Of course if privacy is important to you, then you should take extra steps (e.g. encryption). But communications that you target towards a specific person are presumptively private.)

    2. Re:Email is private? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Most people, even those who work with computers all day, have no idea what "plain text" is.

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    3. Re:Email is private? by stanlyb · · Score: 1

      How many teen boys are able to install and support their own linux server/router/dhcp/dns/sniffer???

    4. Re:Email is private? by thomasw_lrd · · Score: 1

      All the ones without girlfriends.

    5. Re:Email is private? by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      Right, because PGP doesn't exist.

    6. Re:Email is private? by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      And how many of those have girlfriends?

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    7. Re:Email is private? by ACS+Solver · · Score: 1

      Sadly, it's almost as PGP doesn't exist. Encrypted email is very rare even among the computer literate, and good luck having the average user read an encrypted email you sent them.

    8. Re:Email is private? by theArtificial · · Score: 1
      If you receive mail at a workplace, according to the U.S. Postal Service, mail is delivered when it reaches the workplace. Accordingly, employers do not violate federal law if they open personal mail addressed to employees.

      So, email is private...But communications that you target towards a specific person are presumptively private.

      In lay speak: it's as private as a post card. Courts have found that employers are generally free to read employee email messages, as long as there's a valid business purpose for doing so.

      • some email systems automatically copy all messages that pass through them
      • some create backup copies of new messages as they arrive, and
      • some employers that use "keylogger" software might even have copies of draft email messages that you never sent -- and we all know how bad these can be.
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    9. Re:Email is private? by onemorechip · · Score: 1

      Right...When we say something is private, it means we have an expectation of privacy, not that the privacy is guaranteed. Of course we can take any measures we deem practical and necessary to help ensure that privacy, if we are concerned (and have the know-how).

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  24. Gizmodo: Security Experts by ajlitt · · Score: 1

    The most trusted name in passwords.

  25. "Being framed" is just waiting to happen. by whovian · · Score: 1

    Just remember kids, before dumping someone, be sure to fill their account with illegal materials and lewd links!

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  26. Might as well. by mosb1000 · · Score: 2

    If the Feds have access to it, you might as well give your girlfriend access. At least that leaves nothing for the Feds to blackmail you with.

    1. Re:Might as well. by pinkushun · · Score: 1

      1) You can't catch any STI's from the Feds
      2) Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

      Love sure is a war

  27. Not in dipshit Tennenesse! by earls · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a serious crime in TN! Don't get caught, lovers!

  28. My ex wanted this. by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She wanted to monitor my email and everything. Very nosy. I refused and she bitched about not trusting me. Turns out she was a cheating whore and just assumed that I had to be getting some on the side as well. She needed to verify because she could not trust because she was herself untrustworthy and insecure about it. Sharing passwords does not show trust, it shows lack of trust.

    1. Re:My ex wanted this. by glodime · · Score: 1

      Perfect example of why this is stupid.

    2. Re:My ex wanted this. by mathmathrevolution · · Score: 1

      My condolences about the skankage. That's harsh.

    3. Re:My ex wanted this. by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have learned this same lesson but not quite as painfully.

      A thief thinks everyone else steals.
      A manipulator thinks everyone else manipulates.
      An adulterer thinks everyone else cheats.

      I'm sure the reason is part rationalization, part acting out whatever misbehavior caused them to develop those harmful habits.

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    4. Re:My ex wanted this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dated a married woman that I worked with for more than 2 and a half years. It went sour when one night she called her husband my name by mistake. It wasn't long after that, that she ended the relationship.

      She was scared to death that since I also worked with her that I would do something to ruin her home life as well as her professional life at work. She kept asking me how she could trust me.

      I gave her the passwords to my online banking. She had and still has full access to clean it out. I gave that to her 11 years ago. She never questioned again.

      Although I have only seen her twice in the 11 years, I still call and talk to her every Monday, Wednesday and Friday afternoon.

      Nathan

      Captcha: passion

    5. Re:My ex wanted this. by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I don't understand. What was your motivation to give her your passwords? The relationship was over, so you weren't getting anything in return. And for that matter, 11 years later and you're calling her 3 times a week... dude get a life!

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    6. Re:My ex wanted this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet you probably shared bodily fluids with her. People trust their partner to not give them deadly diseases, but not enough to let them read their mail.
      "I'll let you inject me with your potentially deadly semen, but I will not let you read my email full of FarmVille announcements."

      Ergo, mail privacy is valued more than life.

      And they say I'm a gullible nerd.

    7. Re:My ex wanted this. by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      She has no need for my current password all the time, If I needed her to get something out of my email when I could not, I would have given the password. But there was no need.

      Demanding it without need proved that she did not trust me and that she in turn may be unworthy of trust. That was later shown to be true by her behavior.

    8. Re:My ex wanted this. by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      I feel SO identified by this.
      Even though it sounds like extra-cheap psychology, this is quite accurate. Cheaters always think the other's doing the same. After all they think "why not?". Maybe it's just too feel comfortable-er with themselves.

    9. Re:My ex wanted this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I couldn't trust her, how could she expect to trust me. She had way more to loose than I ever did. I trusted her not to do anything with my bank account, she trusted me not to go spilling the beans.

      Dude... I've been a professional programmer since 1983. I consider myself to be a better program than most all. She is a better programmer than me.

      Try finding a girl that is a better programmer than you. I'll give you a little hint, you won't. That is the very reason I've maintained contact.

      Nathan

    10. Re:My ex wanted this. by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      OLD saying.
      A man will not look under a bed unless he has hidden under one himself.

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    11. Re:My ex wanted this. by pinkushun · · Score: 1

      Kudos for sticking to your guns, looks like you learned a great lesson. Best for the future!

    12. Re:My ex wanted this. by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Still don't follow. The fact that she's a girl is only relevant if you expect to fuck her. That just leaves the fact that she's a better programmer than you. There have to be less risky ways to find people who can program better than you.

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    13. Re:My ex wanted this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that she's a girl is only relevant if you expect to fuck her.

      I think I have found your problem.

    14. Re:My ex wanted this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with this 100%. My ex-girlfriend was super jealous of me when it turns out she was flirting with every guy in the world and cheating on me. I wish I heard this advice before dating her.

    15. Re:My ex wanted this. by PKFC · · Score: 1

      Just like how every legislator who ups the ante against child pr0n is guilty of it too...

    16. Re:My ex wanted this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't seem very healthy to date a married woman. You can find single women who have better values than that.

    17. Re:My ex wanted this. by Hatta · · Score: 1

      What, that I treat people in a gender neutral manner unless their gender is relevant?

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    18. Re:My ex wanted this. by V.+P.+Winterbuttocks · · Score: 1

      No... that you think people's gender is relevant if and only if they are willing to fuck you.

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    19. Re:My ex wanted this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look up Majority Bias. an almost universal psychological phenomenon.

  29. And just fuck off by unity100 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    All that eavesdropping, corporate and government spying, data sharing, and people are expected to keep their data away from their loved ones, friends et cetera ? The VERY people who actually have a right and a need to know those information ? And by keeping data away from our CLOSE circle, we are going to make up for the privacy all that eavesdropping, data mining has smoked ?

    If you have the balls, as a security advisor/company/activist, take on the government and corporations. not joe joey and susan sue. leave them to share their password.

    1. Re:And just fuck off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, sir, are a moron.

    2. Re:And just fuck off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All that eavesdropping, corporate and government spying, data sharing, and people are expected to keep their data away from their loved ones, friends et cetera ? The VERY people who actually have a right and a need to know those information ? And by keeping data away from our CLOSE circle, we are going to make up for the privacy all that eavesdropping, data mining has smoked ?

      Strawman argument. Neither the article nor the summary implies such a thing; you made that up yourself.

      If you have the balls, as a security advisor/company/activist, take on the government and corporations. not joe joey and susan sue. leave them to share their password.

      False dichotomy. These things are not mutually exclusive.

    3. Re:And just fuck off by John+Napkintosh · · Score: 2

      people who actually have a right and a need to know those information

      Whoawhoawhoawhoawhoa. Whoa.

      Exactly what the hell are you saying?

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    4. Re:And just fuck off by houghi · · Score: 1

      The VERY people who actually have a right and a need to know those information ?

      You seem to believe, just like the corporations do, that there is some sort of reason others need to know any information or some sort of right. There isn't. There is zero need that people need to know my passwords or my PIN code.

      If I want to share information with them _I_ will decide what I share and with whom, nobody else.

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  30. Stealing passwords by dreemernj · · Score: 0

    As a result of this story, stealing passwords is now considered rape,

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  31. Trust... by smoketetsuo · · Score: 1

    Talking from personal experience sharing passwords doesn't help nor does it benefit anyone. It's better to trust the other person than to have them give you their password. Also if a person is untrustworthy and are for example cheating they can communicate with their other via means other than the account they've given you a password to. Also If a person has trust issues nothing will comfort them. In addition many people are just too vindictive, immature and such to handle this... relationships especially teenage ones are so fleeting I don't believe they should be doing this. It's bad enough they are sexting each other and when they break up post what they sent each other to get back at each other on the interwebs.

  32. slashdot love by staryc · · Score: 1

    To this day I remember my ex's /. account password, and I logged in once a while ago to see if he changed it. He didn't.

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  33. Why isn't Sesame Street teaching us these lessons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First no sharing needles, now no sharing passwords. Screw you Elmo.

    Nevermind facebook, we need a site to enable better parenting online. Perhaps send a stream of syllable slapping packets to a child's phone, or sets up a PVP punishent flag on any of their WoW characters. Which is now owned by a Chinese panda gold farming ring due to sharing passwords.

  34. Let them crash and burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Experience is the best (and sometimes only) teacher.

  35. My wife knows my root password by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But since that's on a shared system, I can't really justify locking her out. Even with the root password, it's way harder to trash a Linux box than a Windows box.

    1. Re:My wife knows my root password by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      But since that's on a shared system, I can't really justify locking her out. Even with the root password, it's way harder to trash a Linux box than a Windows box.

      My god man! Use Sudo!

    2. Re:My wife knows my root password by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Errr... why didn't you just give her a wheel account?

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    3. Re:My wife knows my root password by mkiwi · · Score: 1

      Even with the root password, it's way harder to trash a Linux box than a Windows box.

      sudo rm -R /

    4. Re:My wife knows my root password by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Even with the root password, it's way harder to trash a Linux box than a Windows box.

      I disagree. One fat-fingered mistake in the root shell and the system can be toast.

  36. Some perspective by Cochonou · · Score: 1

    You got to put this into perspective. It's not much worse than having a common bank account, or kids: in case of breakup, it can go horribly wrong. But the bottom line is that even in case of breakup, you trust the other one not to act like a total ass.
    Of course here, we are talking about teenagers, so the problem is a bit different - in which relationships are much shorter and more passionate. The chances of the shit hitting the fan increases by orders of magnitude.

    1. Re:Some perspective by psydeshow · · Score: 1

      You got to put this into perspective. It's not much worse than having a common bank account, or kids: in case of breakup, it can go horribly wrong.

      Well exactly. Would you let your teenage daughter have kids or open a bank account with her boyfriend?

      Those things are worse than sharing passwords. I'd say this is more like sharing keys with your boyfriend/girlfriend. As a teenager? Not going to happen.

    2. Re:Some perspective by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      If my (hypothetical) child was anything like me in my teens, I'd have no problem letting him share bank accounts with a trusted GF. It's not like there would actually be any money in the damn thing.

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  37. Forbes says don't do it! by MarkGriz · · Score: 2

    Yes, thanks Forbes. I'm sure all five of your teen readers will heed your sage advice

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    1. Re:Forbes says don't do it! by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Teens that read Forbes probably have neither the time nor the ability to forge an intimate enough relationship in the first place

  38. Jealous Forbes. by arisvega · · Score: 1

    Forbes knows no love.

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  39. I won't friend my lover. by zidium · · Score: 1

    I won't even friend my lover on Facebook. She can get really jealous over crazy stuff.

    The other day she said, casually, "Maybe I should get you to friend me on Facebook. Then I could see who all your friends are and which pretty ladies you're flirting with." ::sigh::

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  40. but I'm different, I have a plan, see? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men."
    Ayn Rand

    Sounds like that woman had a lot of issues. Hope everything worked out for her.

    Nah, she died alone, like everyone else.

  41. "Hot new trend"? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I'm 51, and I remember this going on back when I was in college - yes, we had computer accounts back then (one PDP 11/70 served the entire campus), along with those newfangled electric lights and horseless carriages.

    Even back then it seemed like a bad idea.

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  42. come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is there such thing as privacy outside of tor?

  43. Thanks for the spoilers warning by cje · · Score: 2

    I was planning on reading Romeo and Juliet this winter.

    Now it looks like I don't have to.

    Assholes.

    By the way, Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father, and Bruce Willis was dead for the whole movie.

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    1. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Nationless · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damnit, I was planning on watching Die Hard this weekend.

      Now it looks like I don't have to.

      Jerk.

    2. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by hiryuu · · Score: 1

      ...and Bruce Willis was dead for the whole movie.

      Well, that puts a whole different spin on how cool Die Hard was, if he was a zombie cop taking down a bunch of terrorist/thieves. :

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    3. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Bruce Willis was dead for the whole movie.

      You mean all those terrorists were killed by A G-G-GHOST!?!?

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    4. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by J0nne · · Score: 1

      Bruce Willis was dead for the whole movie.

      Thanks for ruining Die Hard for me, asshole!

    6. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My password is "Soylent Green"

    7. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dammit. I was planning on watching Stupid People this wekkend. Now it looks like I don't have to.

    8. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Pope · · Score: 1

      It was "Hudson Hawk" by the way. Danny Aielo plays Gabriel.

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    9. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Bruce Willis had an uncredited role in Star Wars?

    10. Re:Thanks for the spoilers warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll save you lots of time then - every book, every one dies eventually.

  44. DON'T BE A PRUDE! by Gunkerty+Jeb · · Score: 1

    I'll show you mine if you show me your's...

  45. One more learning experience by GreenTom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll go against the grain and say this might be a good thing. Isn't being a teenager about making stupid mistakes and suffering painful lessons while still in a somewhat protected environment? Public humiliation at the hands of a bitter ex will teach you more about online security (and relationships in general) than a hundred lectures.

    1. Re:One more learning experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a good lesson, however there is one thing to consider. When I was growing up, had I made mistakes prior to turning 18, those mistakes would have been sealed from the public records. Today, if someone under 18 makes a mistake, it is posted on Facebook for all to see, and is in the public records in perpetuity. It's too bad that all the social media doesn't have some method of actually deleting all of a person's history prior to 18.

  46. thanks authority figures, now it's 90% of teens by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

    well, now that adults have told them how dumb it is, the percentage is really going to spike, good job!

  47. Facebook is nothing by brainzach · · Score: 1

    I shared my Facebook password with my wife before we got married, and it was no big deal. I don't do anything private on Facebook and if my page ever gets vandalized, it will be fairly obvious. Just explained that your account was hacked and move on.

    Once we got married, we shared finances which brings the level of trust to a whole new level. Facebook passwords are nothing in comparison.

  48. We need to change our interfaces a little bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are some good reasons to share a password with someone which are bad given how systems currently work. The Netflix example is perfect: it is very reasonable to have a relationship with someone (or multiple someones) who are not part of your household but who can put movies into your queue. And young people are likely going to be the first to think this way.

    Anyone who says "there are other ways of doing that, like having them email you" is using the current way things work as an explanation for how they *should* work, but we should all know there's no necessary reason for that to be true.

    But presently, almost all accounts are all-or-nothing access. There is very little "portions of accounts having private community together". As another example, suppose I wanted to allow my mother to withdraw up to $500 per month from my account, no questions asked, no advance notice given, but limit enforced. Can't do it. The closest I can get is having an account in her bank so I can quickly go online and transfer the money for her when she calls and ask, which works fine as long as I jump through additional hoops to avoid fees on that account which I use for nothing else, and make sure to check the (separate) account balance on a calendar-monthly basis to replenish it as appropriate.

    The list of "weird" examples that are not one-size-fits-all continues indefinitely, but the common component is giving someone partial access to your account: you don't want them to be able to take control of it or repudiate your previous transactions/messages/items without limitation, you want them to be able to contribute within certain limits. I think even the teen facebook account-sharers aren't excited that their password-shared friends can change their phone number, contact email, and UI language when they do this.

    1. Re:We need to change our interfaces a little bit by SkimTony · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine once suggested that the best way for me to catch up on all the movies he thinks I should've seen by now is to just give him my Netflix password, and see what shows up in the mail.

      That said, a cross-rating system where friends can suggest movies and have them actually show up in your Netflix queue might be entertaining. Perhaps you could use some kind of approval process (I see the notification, I click OK and it shows up in my queue) or even moderation (Slashdot style? Do all your friends moderate your queue? +1 Funny? +1 Action? -1 Ben Stiller?).

      Interesting to think about, probably a nuisance to implement, beyond my scope and skills, certainly. But, still amusing.

  49. Damn kids know nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back in my day, we shared bodily fluids. And we liked it!

    Now get off my lawn!

  50. ^^ double entendre by glodime · · Score: 1

    Good example.

    1. Re:^^ double entendre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a good example. "My gallantry is bigger" makes no sense and therefore means nothing. There has to be more than one meaning for something to be a double entendre. This isn't even a single entendre. It's poorly done sexual innuendo.

    2. Re:^^ double entendre by glodime · · Score: 1

      Touche

  51. my wife and I do this by CAIMLAS · · Score: 5, Funny

    My wife and I do this. I keep her passwords on a sheet of paper in the safe. She reads mine before going to bed every night (I believe she's on chapter 2, "Routers and Switches").

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    1. Re:my wife and I do this by Whibla · · Score: 1

      You just brought tears to my eyes!

      Bravo.

    2. Re:my wife and I do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, my partner cracked it when I changed the home computer login password to "Thequickbrownfoxjumpedoverthelazy[her name]". How on earth do you get halfway through a pH.d without learning to touch type?

  52. Awwwww....my wife and I share passwords by Slutticus · · Score: 1

    But that's just a matter of convenience, as are all things related to getting hitched (love? what's that?)

  53. Copyright! by SeNtM · · Score: 1

    Possible future SOPA and PIPA violations:

    This notice is inform the administration of Geeknet, Inc that the password of my account is Copyrighted. My password of course being 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. While I do not own the Copyright for the password I use, it would be in the best of interest of Geeknet to shut down Slashdot and any other sites they run, which I may have an account on.

    I am very liberal with the sharing of my password and often give it to loved ones and the occasional one-night stand. I am not sure if I have slept with any of you, but it is better to err on the side of caution. If any of you have lived in or visited San Diego, Los Angeles, Charleston, Hilton Head Island, Branson, Orlando, Tallahassee, Miami, Tampa, Clearwater, Newark, Madison, New York, Buffalo, DC, Maggie Valley, or any of the immediate surrounding areas, in the last five years... There is a chance that I may have thought you were cute and/or slept with you and given you my passwords. It would be in your best interest to completely wipe your harddrives (first with 0's, than 1's, and then alternating patterns of both 1's and 0's), as they may contain some reference to my password.

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    1. Re:Copyright! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You admit not only to having been to Maggie Valley, but to having picked up someone there as well?

      A public confession of this sort requires great courage or great foolishness. Kinda hard to tell which, though.

    2. Re:Copyright! by SeNtM · · Score: 1

      I said there was a chance.

      As I recall, illiteracy was rampant...stores would commonly have the words OPEN and CLOSED with reversed N's or S's (similar to how a 3 or 4 year-old would write them). At the time, I thought it was quaint...I later realized that they knew no better.

      Besides...who hasn't been in a situation where they thought the farmer's (or in this instance, hill-billy's) daughter was cute. I cite Elly May Clampett of The Beverly Hillbillies as my example.

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  54. Spouses by Toonol · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I gave all my passwords to my wife, and I have all hers. Neither of us demanded it; it just made sense.

    But the spousal relationship is unique, ethically and legally. I wouldn't normally do that with any other person except as an exception, and I would change passwords afterwards.

    1. Re:Spouses by swillden · · Score: 1

      I gave all my passwords to my wife, and I have all hers. Neither of us demanded it; it just made sense. But the spousal relationship is unique, ethically and legally. I wouldn't normally do that with any other person except as an exception, and I would change passwords afterwards.

      Heh. I know my wife's passwords but she doesn't know mine. I know hers because I manage her computer. She doesn't know mine because she can't remember them. We use a shared password storage service for all of the important passwords, which have to be unique and complex. So we both have access to the bank accounts, etc.

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  55. yep... by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    they just keep gettin stupider

  56. Geniuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Everyone thinks they know everything except geniuses.

    Who know for sure that they know everything ;-).

    1. Re:Geniuses by PIBM · · Score: 1

      Geniuses know they don't know everything.

    2. Re:Geniuses by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Geniuses know they know everything

      It is not paranoia if they are out to get you!

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  57. Advice for teens by Bueller_007 · · Score: 1

    Share fluids, not passwords.

  58. I better change my password... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from Mygfisabitch1 to my Mygfisgreat1...

  59. Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 3, Funny

    we know we know everything.

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    1. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Funny

      Socrates gave us a point of view in that "True wisdom is knowing that you know nothing".

      However, this comes from a man who's last words were "I drank what?!"

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    2. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Bensam123 · · Score: 1

      Of course putting that into context he was joking when he said that, because Socrates was awesome...

    3. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not genius, that's narcissism. It makes you vulnerable to people like Newt Gingrich. Good luck.

    4. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Freultwah · · Score: 1

      Socrates knew damn well what he was drinking. Copious amounts of beer, that's what. And he was great.

    5. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Putting it into reality, it's a just a joke, and not true. Supposedly, his last words were, "Crito, we owe a rooster to Asclepius. Please, don't forget to pay the debt."

    6. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Socrates gave us a point of view in that "True wisdom is knowing that you know nothing".

      However, this comes from a man who's last words were "I drank what?!"

      I fail to see how the later invalidates the former.

    7. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by guspasho · · Score: 1

      No. Socrates drank the hemlock on purpose. He committed suicide. It was a political act of protest against being exiled from his home.

    8. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 2

      However, this comes from a man who's last words were "I drank what?!"

      Too soon.

    9. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Socrates himself is particurlarly missed
      A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed

    10. Re:Geniuses don't think they know everything.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the oracle at delphi declared Socrates to be the wisest man in the land because he knew that he didn't know everything.

      Knowing nothing is abject ignorance, knowing the boundaries of your knowledge sounds pretty wise to me...

  60. In other news by NetNed · · Score: 1

    Most teens now are dumber then ever and rarely look at consequences outside of a week away or so.

  61. Wrong Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather get a blowjob as a sign of intimacy than passwords. Who cares about passwords?

  62. Looking forward to seeing this depicted in movies. by cloudnin · · Score: 1

    Honey Bunny: I love you, Pumpkin.
    Pumpkin: hunter2

  63. Teenagers are dumb. by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My wife manages a teen drop-in center. Oh, the crap I hear about... Anyway, their relationships average about a week, and their definition of "trust" is "stay away from the opposite sex or I will go publicly and aggressively crazy." This illustrates a need for classes about how to avoid codependency and what abuse and manipulation in a relationship looks like. But all the middle and high schools are almost solely focused on studying their students up for the standardized tests, so once again, thank Bush for fucking up society.

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    1. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      Bu$hitler, you mean. Remember kids, no matter how far-fetched the connection is, you can always blame it on Bush. It's the national sport!

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    2. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by pinkushun · · Score: 1

      thank Bush for fucking up society

      As did Facebook, Myspace and MTV, dot dot dot. Just saying...

      P.S.: Except Slashdot. No, we are enlightened. Maybe a little fscked up, but we know it.

    3. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      In this case the connection has one hop, the No Child Left Behind Act. I don't blame Bush for everything, but there's a lot for which he can legitimately be blamed. This is one of those things.

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    4. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this about Bush.... its much more about bush.

    5. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by swillden · · Score: 1

      In this case the connection has one hop, the No Child Left Behind Act. I don't blame Bush for everything, but there's a lot for which he can legitimately be blamed. This is one of those things.

      Because prior to No Child Left Behind, public schools all had relationship classes?

      Also, I know what your wife sees, because I have a daughter who's spent significant time in various teen treatment centers, and I got to know a lot of the girls. But you do have to keep in mind that those kids don't represent the norm. Most of them have some sort of mental or emotional disorder, and they tend to be *much* worse than "normal" kids in just about everything that has to do with other people.

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    6. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      "Treatment" centers? I said drop-in center, like, an afterschool program where they can use the internet, play video games, get some free food, and socialize. These kids don't have any special mental issues (other than "being a teenager").

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    7. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by swillden · · Score: 1

      "Treatment" centers? I said drop-in center, like, an afterschool program where they can use the internet, play video games, get some free food, and socialize. These kids don't have any special mental issues (other than "being a teenager").

      Ah, okay. I misunderstood.

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    8. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      No problem. I do still mean what I said about Bush being responsible for at least some of this; the amount of effort that NCLB put on standardized testing crowded out room for other, potentially much more beneficial programs and classes.

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    9. Re:Teenagers are dumb. by swillden · · Score: 1

      No problem. I do still mean what I said about Bush being responsible for at least some of this; the amount of effort that NCLB put on standardized testing crowded out room for other, potentially much more beneficial programs and classes.

      Perhaps. I'm no Bush fan, I just think presidents in general get both too much blame and too much credit. Though I definitely agree that the question of how much standardized testing is useful is one that should be delegated to the state and local level. But then I think basically all education issues should be delegated to the state and local level, because the federal government has no legal basis for involving itself.

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  64. breach of trust - with the other correspondent by DaveGod · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You "trusting" your partner with your password because you do not mind sharing what you say is one thing. I'd suggest it's unwise, it's highly prone to misunderstandings and perhaps more an indication of lack of trust than actual trust (where sharing the password wouldn't be necessary). But, that's your prerogative.

    But the thing is you're now breaching your trust with the people emailing you. You're sharing what THEY say, and you haven't even had the opportunity to make a judgement first.

    Actually I'd say breaching your trust with others is about all you're doing. You know that you have given your partner access, so you're not going to write anything you would not want them to read. But other people emailing you do not necessarily know that, they think their correspondence is private. At an absolute minimum people trust you to use your judgement before you share their information with your partner.

    1. Re:breach of trust - with the other correspondent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed!

      This is a detail which too few seem to realize.

      I never share any password but a girlfriend once told me that her sister reads her E-Mail all the time and she didn't see anything wrong with that.

      After unlocking the horrified look on my face, I don't think I ever sent her another.

  65. To be young again.. by atticus9 · · Score: 1

    When I was a teenager love was everything, and I totally would have done this. As an adult I'm far too sensible, which makes me sad if I think about it.

  66. OMG DON'T DO IT! by AdamThor · · Score: 2

    Holy crap teens want to do something to establish intimacy! WHATEVER IT IS IT MUST STOP!!!1!

    For realz all of my account password resets point at my email account! Like banking! And billpay! And paypal! And my credit cards! These teens are setting themselves up to ruin their HUGE and HIGHLY INVOLVED financial structures that they don't have.

    Whatevs. TFA has no actual criticism other than your messy breakup might be messy. Whoa drama in teen romance LOOK OUT.

    If sharing passwords creates the intimacy and allows teens to forgo ACTUALLY DANGEROUS behavior then go for it. Beats the hell out of getting a tattoo. Just change your password when you break up. Before your SO changes it out from under you...

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  67. It takes seconds to create a new email account by FoolishOwl · · Score: 2

    Sharing email account passwords isn't nearly as big a deal as people here seem to think.

    And I find the hostility to the idea of expressing trust and intimacy rather unsettling.

    1. Re:It takes seconds to create a new email account by Hentes · · Score: 2

      It takes seconds to create a new email account

      And years to get all your contacts to use it.

    2. Re:It takes seconds to create a new email account by FoolishOwl · · Score: 2

      And we're talking about teenagers, who've probably had an email account for only a few years at most, and generally don't have lists of business contacts.

    3. Re:It takes seconds to create a new email account by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      ...and years to notify everyone you've ever given that email address to about your new address.

    4. Re:It takes seconds to create a new email account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean it's even easier to just change your password. But you may not know that your account's been compromised, and anyway, you can't nessecarily delete your old account if you don't have access to it. What's so dangerous about sharing an email password is that given an email password, you can gain access to most any site they've registered on using the forgot my password, email me a new one button.

    5. Re:It takes seconds to create a new email account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trust and intimacy are one thing, protecting yourself (and your relationship) is another.

      My wife got angry at me the other day (It's normal, most couples fight at some point). Sometimes it's over something that I perceive as stupid, sometimes it's because I did something stupid. Additionally, sometimes it's the other way around, where I get upset about something. Anger and other emotions can cause people to do very irrational and stupid things. Something happens, you're really angry at the other person, you aren't thinking clearly, they hurt YOU (emotionally), now you want to hurt them back, maybe you say some hurtful things to them, maybe you key the brand new car they bought, maybe you charge some large purchases for yourself on their credit card, or change all their passwords, or etc etc etc.

      This sort of thing can (and does) happen even in the healthiest of relationships. Why leave yourself open to it?

  68. Passwords are like underwear by Custard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Passwords are, it is said, like underwear.

    http://www.umflint.edu/its/units/initiatives/publicity/password.htm

    If you are willing to share your underwear with a partner, why not your password?

    In my case, I was dating a woman who had been cheated on and had trust issues. I made sure she had access to my email and a tracking location on my phone. She says she never checked up on me, but I hope the gesture was appreciated.

  69. ATM PIN? by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Did we skip ATM PIN sharing and go straight to social media passwords, or have we not gotten to that stage yet?

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  70. There are three kinds of people in this world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Those who cheat and don't get caught.
    2) Those who cheat and get caught.
    3) Those who want to cheat but can't, because they can get caught.

  71. What??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been married for years and we don't even share passwords, nor do we have nay reason to do so. Why would someone want someone else's Facebook password unless they were trying to pose as that person? I don't even understand it.

  72. Why Wouldn't They? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If teens see their parents sharing the same bank account, mortgage, and trusting each other with 401K accounts and life savings, why wouldn't they view other forms of information sharing similarly?

    I'm not going to fault adults for going on and on about how we should abstain from premarital sex and never share passwords and never write ridiculously sappy love poems to each other that could come back to embarrass the living shit out of us years later, but come on, get real, that's what we all do when the in-love endorphins kick in and turn us into floating nutballs.

  73. No! Bad Teenagers! by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't you know that's the best way to get a virus?! You must practice safe hex in your relationship!

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  74. First condoms.... now what? by AaronBale · · Score: 1

    Unprotected sex, and the schools give kids condoms. Oh no, they might have to start passing out black markers to stop unprotected passwords. Be one way to get school supplies.

  75. The provider MAY be able to deny password sharing by davidwr · · Score: 1

    The account provider/site has no authority to grant or deny permission to how I share my accounts

    A bank generally only grants "authorized" access to accounts. In practice they won't come after me if my dad lends me his ATM card and PIN, but they could legally do so and in some circumstances they may be required to do so. For example, if I sign a check in my Dad's name, even with his permission, the bank is within its rights to say "the signature doesn't match the signature card, check rejected." Of course in practice they don't do that in most cases.

    The one common exception I can think of is if the "other" party has power-of-attorney or some legal equivalent, such as being a guardian or spouse, in states where spouses have automatic rights to act on each others' behalf.

    Don't forget, sometimes password-sharing amounts to financial fraud. If I pay a monthly fee to access The New York Times's paywall, and I share my password with my girlfriend, then it becomes fraud if she uses that password to access paywalled material instead of buying her own account.

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  76. Change password? Problem Solved? by Zaphod+The+42nd · · Score: 2

    Uh... Is it just me, or did they not think of the obvious? While you're together, you share your password. As soon as you break up, log in and change your passwords to something new that you haven't told that person. Problem solved? Was there even a problem?

    I know, I know, TFA was more about the "dangers" of letting your significant other know all your secrets. I reject this too, I don't have any secrets. My friends and family can ask anything and I'll give an honest answer. 99% of the problems in this world come from people trying to defend their own ego and self-image, when you should really just accept that you are who you are and that is fine, people make mistakes, and we are each the result of our environments.

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    1. Re:Change password? Problem Solved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh... Is it just me, or did they not think of the obvious? While you're together, you share your password. As soon as you break up, log in and change your passwords to something new that you haven't told that person. Problem solved? Was there even a problem?

      I know, I know, TFA was more about the "dangers" of letting your significant other know all your secrets. I reject this too, I don't have any secrets. My friends and family can ask anything and I'll give an honest answer. 99% of the problems in this world come from people trying to defend their own ego and self-image, when you should really just accept that you are who you are and that is fine, people make mistakes, and we are each the result of our environments.

      You're overlooking the fact that someone could abuse their access prior to formally ending the relationship with their partner. Oh, I vandalized all of your accounts and bought mounds of ice cream. Side note, we're breaking up.

  77. Unsafe passwords anyone? by GPLHost-Thomas · · Score: 2

    I told my wife that my email password was kx8xay2m4knnh9tjgn4f5nzy, but surprisingly, she doesn't feel like it's a proof of trust!

  78. My father to son talk.. by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

    If you catch it, you die from it, if you father it you pay for it/house it/feed it, you gave your little girlfriend your WHAT? you poor dumb bastard, that'll teach ya!

    To quote my dad: "save yur money and keep yur drawers on"! OR "Don't believe anything ya hear and damn little ya see" AND "Ya think that's FUN? lemme tell ya what's fun, know'in where yer next meals comin from is FUN!

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  79. Multi-credential accounts by arose · · Score: 1

    It's really about time for web-applications to acknowlage the reality that an account doesn't necceserily equate one person and start supporting multiple users. This kind of password sharing is only one scenario. Collection managers really make more sense for a household, not a person, so let multiple accounts share a collection. Password managers should be able to push certain passwords to other users (yes, this is perfectly possible with assymetric encryption) and, optimally, provide secret sharing capabilities to enable password recovery in emergencies. Email may benefit from per-folder/per-tag shared access, so that someone can take over some of your correspondence as needed, without kludges like forwarding that just leave you with a ton of unread email that may or may not have been processed already. And so on.

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  80. Same rule, different object. by Millennium · · Score: 1

    It's just like the rule of photography: any picture or video of you will find its way to the Internet, and it will go viral. If this would cause problems for you, then turn off the damn camera.

    Applied to passwords: anyone to whom you give an account password will use it in a way that hurts you, emotionally, financially, or socially, at least once. They cannot be stopped from doing this, because in all likelihood they will not understand what exactly it is they are doing. If this would cause problems for you, then don't share the damn password.

  81. use protection by schlachter · · Score: 1

    use protection.....password protection with your partner

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  82. geniuses... by schlachter · · Score: 1

    Well, it's true, I know everything, except geniuses. Never been able to get close with a genius.

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  83. From Russia With Love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    “I’ve known plenty of couples who have shared passwords, and not a single one has not regretted it,” said Mr. Biddle in an interview, adding that the practice includes the unspoken notion of mutually assured destruction if somebody misbehaves.

    Now I understand the Cold War with all those missiles and red telephones. US<3SU 4EVER!

  84. Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've fallen in love numerous times, but even in the most desperate instances I have never wanted to share everything with the object of my infatuation. Isn't sharing passwords the equivalent of letting someone read your diary? Who does that? If you are like that, or used to be during puberty, please explain why. Is it a wish for desubjectivation?

  85. Parents are to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All those parents who spy on their kids' online presence, cybernanny their computers, force them to reveal their passwords are to blame for this. Kids grow up thinking it is normal to share your intimate data with someone you love. Only when they rebel against family values (which mostly doesn't happen or doesn't go far enough) do people realize that privacy is inalienable.

  86. That's not love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you really love someone you'll give them your bank PIN number.

  87. All About User Tracking by klahnako · · Score: 1

    How will the marketing corporations refine their targeting advertising when your loved ones pollute your history with their love-motivated actions?!

  88. I think its all about submission by osoriojr · · Score: 1

    People need to control. When 'in love', they abandon all their individually because of the greatful love is. Its like the: "If you love me, we dont need condoms." Control, obsession and fear... Making your loving partner submitted is the best way to to fail in your life.

  89. Eeeewww by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather share a toothbrush.

  90. It's not about trust for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never shared my passwords with girlfriends, family or close friends. Not because I don't trust them, but because of the access my various accounts have on/to other systems that I look after. It's just not worth letting them have the password then have to answer questions later with all honesty if I don't know for 100% that it wasn't my account that was used to cause some damage.

    I'll happily log people into stuff like facebook, and might even select the save password box if it's something like a video streaming site. But are they getting my password - hell no.

    If I didn't work in IT or have access to other systems then the situation might be different.

  91. Oh, the memories... Oh, the support tickets! by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    Sharing login credentials as a sign of luuuuurve ? This reminds me of the time I spent handling support tickets as a GM on a private Ragnarok Online server.

    If I were to guess the number of item recovery tickets I handled that were about people sharing their accounts with significant others and having all their stuff stolen, the answer might cause your head to explode.

    It wasn't limited to real-world relationships either. I once handled a ticket where someone was ripped off by their in-game spouse. To make matters even more lulzy, I distinctly remember having processed a divorce request ticket for the thief earlier that day.

    The thief's character name? Louise_Greed. (Not even kidding.) It took all my willpower not to ask the victim exactly what the hell he thought was going to happen.

    --

    Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
  92. Adults do this, too by reason · · Score: 1

    What I find a little creepy is adult couples who share one email account. My parents do this, and so do a few of my 30-something friends, all simply for convenience. I guess it isn't creepy if you just take it as a clear signal that those who do it tend not to think of email as a primary form of communication and would rather use a telephone or something else for anything but planning details and business communication. For me, email is my preferred medium (other than face to face) for intimate and social conversations. Knowing that a friend shares an email account with her husband means tend not to have those conversations with her. It isn't that I expect her to keep what I say secret from her husband - just that my friendship is not directly with the husband and I wouldn't talk in quite the same way to him myself. And I don't know who will read my emails first.

  93. 33% by MastaBaba · · Score: 1

    When studies tout numbers like '33%', I always suspect the sample size was something like 3. Or perhaps 6.

  94. my password is simple by Zhiar · · Score: 1

    all my passwords are "correct battery horse staple" now. http://xkcd.com/936/

  95. "No more 'mr. nice guy'" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have learned this same lesson but not quite as painfully.

    A thief thinks everyone else steals.
    A manipulator thinks everyone else manipulates.
    An adulterer thinks everyone else cheats.

    I'm sure the reason is part rationalization, part acting out whatever misbehavior caused them to develop those harmful habits.

    Yeah, the underlying idea being "I will not be the only one to be taken advantage of, I want my share of what everyone else is getting". It speaks volumes of their growing up environment, confusion, insecurity, gullibility, ... crime doesn't make you stupid, stupidity makes you believe crime is higher justice.

  96. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I may not be a teenager anymore (havent been for a decade now). I sure as hell don't share my passwords with anyone, but my GF has access to both my personal email and facebook easily. Explorer remembers my passwords, and I stay logged in to both gmail and facebook on my laptop, so any time she uses it, she automatically get in to either account. I don't really care, since there is nothing in either account that I consider to be sensitive (at least for for her to see).

    Work related information on the other hand, I never allow the computer to rememer passwords for, since it's not my personal information, but a clients.

    Still, sharing passwords? WTF? of course, what do kids have that needs to be confidential? an email from mom asking what time the kid'll be home?

  97. lol "new"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was doing this back in the 90's with my GF's. Back then it was OK to do that, however today it is not. Sorry sweethearts, this ain't the 90's anymore! Find some other way to flirt.