Bad idea.. Remember Win95 OSR2? The OS ate 80 megs of CD space, the demos ate another 100.. What did they do with the rest of the space??
Weezer video.
Watch; Billy boy will call down to R+D and ask them for a statically compiled version of Windows2000 / IIS5 / Office 2000. That ought to kill 60G. What will they do with the rest of the space??
Weezer video.
'Buddy Holly' at 1600x1200x32 30fps sounds about right.
Sorry.. I only got the lightweight corporate throwaways back in those days (89-91). Didn't see too much Novell or Digital, but SCO should have been up there.. Perhaps BSDi.. Naw, not BSDi.
Embedded UnixWare?!? What time frame?? I'd didn't hear of such a beastie until 94-95! Granted, that was when I was trying the embedd microcontroller thing, so I probably was just out of touch.
Erhm.. If you can install Slack, you can manage *BSD. From what I remember, the disk partitioner is a bit dodgy in Free(at least in 3.3), but not more so than cfdisk was with 1.2.xx. X comes with it, but you have to manually configure it with xf86config or startx --configure. No real suprises to the install.
Try it.. Oh, and don't freak out when you 'free' and see half your memory gone; FreeBSD has a different memory management style than Linux.. I've had more than one frantic email over that!
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Legacy: Adj. Any system that does not meet the minimum hardware requirements of Windows 2000/IIS5, or any hardware device that does not have Microsoft approved drivers.
I don't know what will become of Unix, and whoever says they do is not only a fool but a liar as well.
It was only a few years ago that I was mourning the apparent *nix recession; The only game in town was Xenix/AT&T (and a wee bit of Sun, but not in my neck of the woods), and their products were both languishing and confined to minis.. Linux and the *BSDs were infant, not worth a mention outside of academia. Now it has come full circle. People are using *nix [gasp] ON THEIR DESKTOP! I can run *nix on everything from my multi-million dollar IBM to my $100 garage sale throwaway. And it is adapting again. Embedded Unix? I would have laughed my ass off if someone had suggested running Unix on a microcontroller only a few years ago..
I kind of suspect that *nix is just too adaptable to die, but to say whether or not it will be beaten back onto the mainframes by PalmOS run-PDA's in a decade is impossible.
As soon as I read that I had a bad flashback to college and having to wait for Wintel PS 4 whilst my buddies with 'slow' IIFX were already enjoying all of its yummy goodness..
I suppose I've fallen into the same trap of disillusionment Bill Gates lives in..
This actually confirms that Sun's support people are a bunch of pig-fuckers! After all, Sun did put the dot in Dotcom.. I just hope it was in Kentucky, because otherwise Scotty is going to end up playing Cell Block 4's own personal Dotcom for the next three-to-five..
If you're running any reasonably current RH dist, a source install of Xfree4.0 is painless! Snag the source, tar -zxf it, and make World >> stuff.log & tail -f stuff.log!! When it finishes, just su root and make install!
Be warned, it can eat up a few hundred megs of HD space by the time it finishes. And expect to wait. The dual Celeron 400 took about an hour, the K6-2 took 1.5, and my MediaGX took almost three.
I'm sorry, but you and the U.S government must live under a different definition of 'addiction' than is given in the dictionary. An addiction is that which you are dependant upon. While I can more then picture Paul Reubens or Vincent Van Gogh using graphic pornography as a staple, I can't seem to imagine anyone dependant on it.
Wait. I forgot. Personal responsibility became a write-off back in 1992. It's politically acceptable to be addicted to anything these days. My mistake..
You cannot possibly become addicted to porn. Heroin, yes. Nicotine, yes. Porno, no. You may very well like photos of young women going at each other, but that doesn't mean that you are addicted.
The Copyright Office often publishes their intrepretation of, and guidelines for law enforcement to use, for new laws concerning copyright. In this case, they have asked for outside input from us, the citizenry that will be beat down by the new laws. And we have said, collectivly, that the DCMA sucks so badly they should pressure Congress for a rewrite at very least. I actually submitted a short monograph of my opinion, in writing. See if you can find it..
They did kind of rock, in that cheezy pre-science science-fiction sort of way.. The Venus series was better than 'The Martian Chronicles', but 'Back to the Stone Age' was the best of the bunch.. Not nearly as unbelievable as the rest, well, except for the basic premise that the earth is a hollow shell. I never could do anything but laugh about the 150 year-old Civil War officer on Mars who communicated by sheer force of will.. I guess that's why they had him discover the 'Gridley wave' independantly in the later books..
Why the hell did he have this 'Jason Gridley' character linking most/all of his series? Except as a weak expositive device, he served as nothing more than a running joke!
Has everyone forgot about Edgar Rice Burroughs and the 'Warlord of Mars' series?? John Carter kicked some serious ass on the red planet back in the day.. Him and Tars Tarkas, wiping up Greater Barsoom with a long sword and a R-Ray pistol, one dead city at a time..
The profit-seekers, outcasts, and jerks have already arrived.
They're the 'dot-com' slimes, the 'e-tailers'. The AOLusers and the chat-room addicts. They're the spammers that force us to read through pyramid schemes and 'Swiss penile enlargement' advertisments at the breakfast table, the morons that brought Usenet to it's knees.
And what can we do? Some of their new ways are appealing. They've brought a new brand of e-booze that many of us are so satiated with we've forgotten. Unlike the 'Wild West', the natives are better armed than the invaders. DoS them into nonexistance whan they screw around. Shoot 'em in the knees with bans, 'spammer go away' and respond with like flame. Do not go quietly..
Ironically, you can 'cluster' these things just by feeding them all the same stream. It won't find the bugs in your code, but it will find the cockroaches in your apartment. You may very well have to cluster them if you have as many native species as some of the bachelor apartments I've seen and/or lived in. Also, you can use it to guide the robot vacuum cleaner to suck them up.
These chips process the visual information, not generate it. They identify and track objects in a video stream. They'd be good for a robot that wanted to play baseball, or as a cheap add-on so that your Aibo could recognise you on sight, or as part of a automatic weaponry targeting system. (I doubt we'd have seen it if this had been a US company.. Defense would have snatched it..)
Hell, it's cheap anough we could all have auto-aim Paint-ball guns, and semi-intelligent autocannon. Look out World, my rocketlauncher is going self-aim!
Back to the real subject.. The poor fellow has no use for these, unless he also wants his visual cortex cut out in the name of Borgification..
E and Xinerama do the occasional bickering match on my box, and it usually ends up that the server dies(if you run it as root) or Enlightenment stops responding(as user; sometimes 'restart' works sometimes not). This usually happens when you try to move a window across the boundary. Turning off 'transparent' almost eliminates it tho.. Blackbox behaves, as do fvwm, fvwm2, twm, and Afterstep.
The software/OS can be live updated over the wire as is. Best case, it would mean sending a trick image over the 56K modem and installing the rest USB/PLIP.
Worst case involves wiring to the bus.. Ewww.. I'm hoping they're forthcoming with specifications, so I can quit playing the guestimate man I've ordered another one from Netpliance.. $100 bucks isn't bad for a play toy.. I'll crack the case when I get it..
You can neither use the normal I-Opener ISP with a PC nor the converse. The iopener expects a signon containing information such as software update, etc, that is only relevant to the factory 'PIA' configuration.. The modem is a standard V.90, and it doesn't do anything funny. The OS/dialer just expects that little extra bit of handshaking that makes iopener's ISP and any standard one mutually exclusive..
They do offer 'combination' service for both a PC and an iopener for prices cheaper than, say, Compuserve or AOL..
Damn! 50 for an Alpha!! Some of us would be taking home supercomputers! Perhaps I can squeeze my 180 for a used S/390 or one of those Power Challenge I'm always lusting after at work.
Sig 11! Hold out for the T3E man! They're gonna try to lowball you with a crappy Onyx!
I've gone through their media Q&A. This is what is known:
It runs QNX. 200mhz x86 processor. I'm guessing MediaGX 16M FlashROM, 32M RAM. 4M of user filespace.
And to boot, they profess that they may support alternative embedded OS, specifically mentioning Linux.
I'm hot to do this. I've got some experience with kernel internals, but I'm not a guru grade wizard yet. I'd need help, especially from the Embedded Linux camps. Any interested parties should contact me via email. I have also contacted Netpliance with a request for deeper specification.
A totally intuitive interface is impossible. Think about it.. Nearly everything you have done today was a learned behavior. Every human learns a different set of behaviors. Some people can grasp X and fvwm easily; it meshes with some of the behaviors they have learned. Others still have trouble managing to right-click in Windows; The interface is at odds with the behaviors they have learned, and it doesn't integrate well. Additionally, different cultures learn different things.
What about a 'driving' interface? Driving a vehicle, be it a bike, or a car, or a ox-cart is a behavior learned by pretty much standard across all cultures. What kind of interface could we build that would confirm to the actions and behaviors learned whilst driving?
It's a decentralized library requiring huge amounts of replication. It isn't really suited for piracy; it resembles some sort of insane military style redundant storage system for WWIII more than anything! Once something is in, it is in for good, even if none of the original hosts survive.. It would be a fitting place to put documents reserved for the future, or for banned content. Piracy, no..
The original poster was trying to suggest something like Napster but with no central server. (And hopefully serving a broader audience than Warez d00ds).
I thought about this in depth a while back, and even started some skeleton code. This is the implementation I came up with
Alternate method 5. Relying on sheer penetration of such a client and the growing horsepower of both client user bandwidth and CPU power to hold a local database. Inter-client communication would be weakly peer-to-peer and individual client 'hello' could be handled by either a single server (a la ICQ) or by simple contact list notification and keep-alive (NetPhone). Once again, search results are communicated to each node of the search for local cache, and the nodes are daisy-chained for bandwidth conservation. The local search database can consist, in addition to the cache of results from previous searches, of any locally available information. Browser cache, the local file tree, etc, are possible sources of information.
Advantages: No centralized entity required for operation. Dedicated servers/and repeaters could be added to the network on an impermanent basis.
Disadvantages: The trust model of a weakly peer-to-peer network would lead itself to all sorts of abuses. Hacked clients returning incorrect result data (pr0n, spam, etc). A trust model for other clients, call it client moderation, could cull the bad results but would require user interaction to be effective.
CP/M likes to irrationally fart and dump for no reason at all. Xenix likes to barf when it can't poke at the hardware it wants to see (like an EGA card, and an Olivetti bus monitor), but you may be able to force it to work.
Bad idea.. Remember Win95 OSR2? The OS ate 80 megs of CD space, the demos ate another 100.. What did they do with the rest of the space??
Weezer video.
Watch; Billy boy will call down to R+D and ask them for a statically compiled version of Windows2000 / IIS5 / Office 2000. That ought to kill 60G. What will they do with the rest of the space??
Weezer video.
'Buddy Holly' at 1600x1200x32 30fps sounds about right.
Sorry.. I only got the lightweight corporate throwaways back in those days (89-91). Didn't see too much Novell or Digital, but SCO should have been up there.. Perhaps BSDi.. Naw, not BSDi.
Embedded UnixWare?!? What time frame?? I'd didn't hear of such a beastie until 94-95! Granted, that was when I was trying the embedd microcontroller thing, so I probably was just out of touch.
Erhm.. If you can install Slack, you can manage *BSD. From what I remember, the disk partitioner is a bit dodgy in Free(at least in 3.3), but not more so than cfdisk was with 1.2.xx. X comes with it, but you have to manually configure it with xf86config or startx --configure. No real suprises to the install.
Try it.. Oh, and don't freak out when you 'free' and see half your memory gone; FreeBSD has a different memory management style than Linux.. I've had more than one frantic email over that!
Legacy: Adj. Any system that does not meet the minimum hardware requirements of Windows 2000/IIS5, or any hardware device that does not have Microsoft approved drivers.
I don't know what will become of Unix, and whoever says they do is not only a fool but a liar as well.
It was only a few years ago that I was mourning the apparent *nix recession; The only game in town was Xenix/AT&T (and a wee bit of Sun, but not in my neck of the woods), and their products were both languishing and confined to minis.. Linux and the *BSDs were infant, not worth a mention outside of academia. Now it has come full circle. People are using *nix [gasp] ON THEIR DESKTOP! I can run *nix on everything from my multi-million dollar IBM to my $100 garage sale throwaway. And it is adapting again. Embedded Unix? I would have laughed my ass off if someone had suggested running Unix on a microcontroller only a few years ago..
I kind of suspect that *nix is just too adaptable to die, but to say whether or not it will be beaten back onto the mainframes by PalmOS run-PDA's in a decade is impossible.
As soon as I read that I had a bad flashback to college and having to wait for Wintel PS 4 whilst my buddies with 'slow' IIFX were already enjoying all of its yummy goodness..
I suppose I've fallen into the same trap of disillusionment Bill Gates lives in..
Adobe does do a bit of portwork, albeit mostly Mac. You can snag the Acrobat Reader for Linux/Mac/Sun/AIX/etc from their website www.adobe.com.
This actually confirms that Sun's support people are a bunch of pig-fuckers! After all, Sun did put the dot in Dotcom.. I just hope it was in Kentucky, because otherwise Scotty is going to end up playing Cell Block 4's own personal Dotcom for the next three-to-five..
If you're running any reasonably current RH dist, a source install of Xfree4.0 is painless! Snag the source, tar -zxf it, and make World >> stuff.log & tail -f stuff.log!! When it finishes, just su root and make install!
Be warned, it can eat up a few hundred megs of HD space by the time it finishes. And expect to wait. The dual Celeron 400 took about an hour, the K6-2 took 1.5, and my MediaGX took almost three.
I'm sorry, but you and the U.S government must live under a different definition of 'addiction' than is given in the dictionary. An addiction is that which you are dependant upon. While I can more then picture Paul Reubens or Vincent Van Gogh using graphic pornography as a staple, I can't seem to imagine anyone dependant on it.
Wait. I forgot. Personal responsibility became a write-off back in 1992. It's politically acceptable to be addicted to anything these days. My mistake..
You cannot possibly become addicted to porn. Heroin, yes. Nicotine, yes. Porno, no. You may very well like photos of young women going at each other, but that doesn't mean that you are addicted.
To quote Glen Frye.. Get over it!!
The Copyright Office often publishes their intrepretation of, and guidelines for law enforcement to use, for new laws concerning copyright. In this case, they have asked for outside input from us, the citizenry that will be beat down by the new laws. And we have said, collectivly, that the DCMA sucks so badly they should pressure Congress for a rewrite at very least. I actually submitted a short monograph of my opinion, in writing. See if you can find it..
The word you were looking for was 'recall'...
They did kind of rock, in that cheezy pre-science science-fiction sort of way.. The Venus series was better than 'The Martian Chronicles', but 'Back to the Stone Age' was the best of the bunch.. Not nearly as unbelievable as the rest, well, except for the basic premise that the earth is a hollow shell. I never could do anything but laugh about the 150 year-old Civil War officer on Mars who communicated by sheer force of will.. I guess that's why they had him discover the 'Gridley wave' independantly in the later books..
Why the hell did he have this 'Jason Gridley' character linking most/all of his series? Except as a weak expositive device, he served as nothing more than a running joke!
Has everyone forgot about Edgar Rice Burroughs and the 'Warlord of Mars' series?? John Carter kicked some serious ass on the red planet back in the day.. Him and Tars Tarkas, wiping up Greater Barsoom with a long sword and a R-Ray pistol, one dead city at a time..
The profit-seekers, outcasts, and jerks have already arrived.
They're the 'dot-com' slimes, the 'e-tailers'. The AOLusers and the chat-room addicts. They're the spammers that force us to read through pyramid schemes and 'Swiss penile enlargement' advertisments at the breakfast table, the morons that brought Usenet to it's knees.
And what can we do? Some of their new ways are appealing. They've brought a new brand of e-booze that many of us are so satiated with we've forgotten. Unlike the 'Wild West', the natives are better armed than the invaders. DoS them into nonexistance whan they screw around. Shoot 'em in the knees with bans, 'spammer go away' and respond with like flame. Do not go quietly..
Ironically, you can 'cluster' these things just by feeding them all the same stream. It won't find the bugs in your code, but it will find the cockroaches in your apartment. You may very well have to cluster them if you have as many native species as some of the bachelor apartments I've seen and/or lived in. Also, you can use it to guide the robot vacuum cleaner to suck them up.
These chips process the visual information, not generate it. They identify and track objects in a video stream. They'd be good for a robot that wanted to play baseball, or as a cheap add-on so that your Aibo could recognise you on sight, or as part of a automatic weaponry targeting system. (I doubt we'd have seen it if this had been a US company.. Defense would have snatched it..)
Hell, it's cheap anough we could all have auto-aim Paint-ball guns, and semi-intelligent autocannon. Look out World, my rocketlauncher is going self-aim!
Back to the real subject.. The poor fellow has no use for these, unless he also wants his visual cortex cut out in the name of Borgification..
E and Xinerama do the occasional bickering match on my box, and it usually ends up that the server dies(if you run it as root) or Enlightenment stops responding(as user; sometimes 'restart' works sometimes not). This usually happens when you try to move a window across the boundary. Turning off 'transparent' almost eliminates it tho.. Blackbox behaves, as do fvwm, fvwm2, twm, and Afterstep.
The software/OS can be live updated over the wire as is. Best case, it would mean sending a trick image over the 56K modem and installing the rest USB/PLIP.
Worst case involves wiring to the bus.. Ewww.. I'm hoping they're forthcoming with specifications, so I can quit playing the guestimate man
I've ordered another one from Netpliance.. $100 bucks isn't bad for a play toy.. I'll crack the case when I get it..
You can neither use the normal I-Opener ISP with a PC nor the converse. The iopener expects a signon containing information such as software update, etc, that is only relevant to the factory 'PIA' configuration.. The modem is a standard V.90, and it doesn't do anything funny. The OS/dialer just expects that little extra bit of handshaking that makes iopener's ISP and any standard one mutually exclusive..
They do offer 'combination' service for both a PC and an iopener for prices cheaper than, say, Compuserve or AOL..
Damn! 50 for an Alpha!! Some of us would be taking home supercomputers! Perhaps I can squeeze my 180 for a used S/390 or one of those Power Challenge I'm always lusting after at work.
Sig 11! Hold out for the T3E man! They're gonna try to lowball you with a crappy Onyx!
Self confessed closet Karma Whore..
I've gone through their media Q&A. This is what is known:
It runs QNX.
200mhz x86 processor. I'm guessing MediaGX
16M FlashROM, 32M RAM. 4M of user filespace.
And to boot, they profess that they may support alternative embedded OS, specifically mentioning Linux.
I'm hot to do this. I've got some experience with kernel internals, but I'm not a guru grade wizard yet. I'd need help, especially from the Embedded Linux camps. Any interested parties should contact me via email. I have also contacted Netpliance with a request for deeper specification.
A totally intuitive interface is impossible. Think about it.. Nearly everything you have done today was a learned behavior. Every human learns a different set of behaviors. Some people can grasp X and fvwm easily; it meshes with some of the behaviors they have learned. Others still have trouble managing to right-click in Windows; The interface is at odds with the behaviors they have learned, and it doesn't integrate well. Additionally, different cultures learn different things.
What about a 'driving' interface? Driving a vehicle, be it a bike, or a car, or a ox-cart is a behavior learned by pretty much standard across all cultures. What kind of interface could we build that would confirm to the actions and behaviors learned whilst driving?
It's a decentralized library requiring huge amounts of replication. It isn't really suited for piracy; it resembles some sort of insane military style redundant storage system for WWIII more than anything! Once something is in, it is in for good, even if none of the original hosts survive.. It would be a fitting place to put documents reserved for the future, or for banned content. Piracy, no..
The original poster was trying to suggest something like Napster but with no central server. (And hopefully serving a broader audience than Warez d00ds).
I thought about this in depth a while back, and even started some skeleton code. This is the implementation I came up with
Alternate method 5.
Relying on sheer penetration of such a client and the growing horsepower of both client user
bandwidth and CPU power to hold a local database. Inter-client communication would be
weakly peer-to-peer and individual client 'hello' could be handled by either a
single server (a la ICQ) or by simple contact list notification and keep-alive (NetPhone). Once
again, search results are communicated to each node of the search for local cache, and the
nodes are daisy-chained for bandwidth conservation. The local search database can
consist, in addition to the cache of results from previous searches, of any locally available
information. Browser cache, the local file tree, etc, are possible sources of information.
Advantages: No centralized entity required for operation. Dedicated servers/and repeaters
could be added to the network on an impermanent basis.
Disadvantages: The trust model of a weakly peer-to-peer network would lead itself to
all sorts of abuses. Hacked clients returning incorrect result data (pr0n, spam, etc). A trust
model for other clients, call it client moderation, could cull the bad results but would require user interaction to be effective.
CP/M likes to irrationally fart and dump for no reason at all. Xenix likes to barf when it can't poke at the hardware it wants to see (like an EGA card, and an Olivetti bus monitor), but you may be able to force it to work.