Alternatively, browsers will become a deployment platform, where apps get downloaded and installed via the browser (with possible integration). They will be treated as locally installed apps (so one could do stuff like save files and read them later) and be trusted.
And then they become a toolkit and people write apps in them. Oh wait, that's XUL/XAML.
Don't know about the speed (no way I'm putting that on my normal use box), and the IE option looks good assuming you make the selection at install-time to always use Gecko (and switch manually to IE only).
Actually, if you look at it very carefully, it seems to render the Flash for a split second first before the actual Flash object is removed. Not sure if that provides an opportunity for bad things to happen...
But they're still running under the same process, so when one goes they all do (and you hope the auto-recovery thing has something).
As far as I can tell it's still some sort of messed up MDI thing - you can actually close all document windows and end up with an empty Word window. Not quite sure how it all works...
The problem is, they haven't really got a decent Firefox CCK (similiar to IEAK) yet. There is a current effort to revive it though. (According to a post on the MozillaZine forums on the IBM/Firefox story today, IBM used the work-in-progress, presumably with some in-house tweaking.)
Even worse is when you forget it's the screensaver and hit the hardware reset button. (Had W2k with a problem with symevent (Norton) at the time, so I saw BSoDs frequently at the time.)
(If it could just restart explorer, that means it's recoverable and in user-space. I.e., not a BSoD, which happens in kernel-space. After all, explorer is just a shell.)
And yes the restarting is a pain, since then you have no idea what just happened. Even worse is when it happens on boot - yay restart loop. AFAICT, checking the event log does not give all the information available in the BSoD.
(Note: I'm going by the info page, since I havn't installed this yet)
It's (partially, at least) a local HTTP proxy. Which means some sort of a binary (much like the desktop search stuff), and thus platform specific.
This also means it should work at least somewhat with other browsers (like Opera), you probably just won't be access the config screen easily. If you find the right page to access though you probably can.
Most of Mozilla is MPL / GPL / LGPL tri-licensed; so if they use the MPL option, they allowed to distribute closed-source software based on Mozilla as long as all hidden code are their own.
Remember - Netscape used to have an AIM component; I'm pretty sure they made sure they won't need to sue themselves...
That, and they send this "x-forwarded-for" header. In my case, my IP followed by my ISP (non-anonymous) proxy's IP, followed by "unknown", all delimited using commas.
Yeah, that's real anonymous there...
Hmm... Google also responds with a Content-Location: header, causing Firefox to go directly to the actual page the second time.
I'm testing with this site (random Google result for "HTTP header viewer").
Especially considering that it's not VBScript's fault, is the WMP ActiveX control. That particular piece of code can be translated into JScript rather trivially and work just as well.
It will not work without Windows media player.
It does not involve any privlege escalation either - it was designed to do that (even if rather stupid).
Kinda wish the modded-Informative post-bashing would at least get their facts right... Yeah, I know, never going to happen.
Does Flashblock help? There have been reports of popups through Flash (since Firefox has, AFAIK, no real way of knowing whether a popup from a plugin is legit).
Last I checked - it was a MSI file that launched the normal installer. Yeah, real useful. I'm hoping that's been changed; havn't been tracking the installer issues.
Given that there seems to have been quite a bit of community grumbling over MoFo decisions[1], are there any concrete plans to improve communicating with the community at large (not marketing, but rather to distribute organizational-level decisions)? This role currently seems to be handled by people like Asa, who is also busy with other things such as release management.
[1] Including cease of Seamonkey as a mozilla.org product, the Firefox naming thing, U.M.O. limboness &c.
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Alternatively, browsers will become a deployment platform, where apps get downloaded and installed via the browser (with possible integration). They will be treated as locally installed apps (so one could do stuff like save files and read them later) and be trusted.
And then they become a toolkit and people write apps in them. Oh wait, that's XUL/XAML.
For the auto-update, you need to wait for them to update this file.
:)
Hmm, it looks like they distribute the trust stuff there too
WFM - I managed to download a random IDE driver.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050520 Firefox/1.0+
Of course, I'd still prefer using an old machine than something with their motherboard... but that's unrelated.
The box was hidden? Was right there for me...
Don't know about the speed (no way I'm putting that on my normal use box), and the IE option looks good assuming you make the selection at install-time to always use Gecko (and switch manually to IE only).
Actually, if you look at it very carefully, it seems to render the Flash for a split second first before the actual Flash object is removed. Not sure if that provides an opportunity for bad things to happen...
Yeah... because BetaNews had an article claiming it was "released" before the FTP server had the files or the Download Now page provided a link.
Not quite sure how that really worked...
But they're still running under the same process, so when one goes they all do (and you hope the auto-recovery thing has something).
As far as I can tell it's still some sort of messed up MDI thing - you can actually close all document windows and end up with an empty Word window. Not quite sure how it all works...
The problem is, they haven't really got a decent Firefox CCK (similiar to IEAK) yet. There is a current effort to revive it though. (According to a post on the MozillaZine forums on the IBM/Firefox story today, IBM used the work-in-progress, presumably with some in-house tweaking.)
No, all I know to do is to look for the name of the driver at which point I can try to figure out what's wrong.
The guy below mentioning the crash dumps is the guy you're looking for. I don't even know what might open a crash dump - windbg perhaps?
No, it restarts the machine.
(If it could just restart explorer, that means it's recoverable and in user-space. I.e., not a BSoD, which happens in kernel-space. After all, explorer is just a shell.)
And yes the restarting is a pain, since then you have no idea what just happened. Even worse is when it happens on boot - yay restart loop. AFAICT, checking the event log does not give all the information available in the BSoD.
(Note: I'm going by the info page, since I havn't installed this yet)
It's (partially, at least) a local HTTP proxy. Which means some sort of a binary (much like the desktop search stuff), and thus platform specific.
This also means it should work at least somewhat with other browsers (like Opera), you probably just won't be access the config screen easily. If you find the right page to access though you probably can.
Quirks mode?
Everybody does it - if the page claims to support standards (via the doctype), just do the standards thing and stop caring if it breaks.
Correct; they seem to like to keep the -moz- prefix until it actually (mostly) works as advertised (i.e., according to spec).
The same happened with opacity (it was left as -moz-opacity for quite a while until they fixed some bugs to actually let it conform to standards).
Most of Mozilla is MPL / GPL / LGPL tri-licensed; so if they use the MPL option, they allowed to distribute closed-source software based on Mozilla as long as all hidden code are their own.
Remember - Netscape used to have an AIM component; I'm pretty sure they made sure they won't need to sue themselves...
That, and they send this "x-forwarded-for" header. In my case, my IP followed by my ISP (non-anonymous) proxy's IP, followed by "unknown", all delimited using commas.
Yeah, that's real anonymous there...
Hmm... Google also responds with a Content-Location: header, causing Firefox to go directly to the actual page the second time.
I'm testing with this site (random Google result for "HTTP header viewer").
Try spelling it correctly:
What is googol
IHBT.
Huh?
Babelfish gets "Sakaki field machine corporation". (My limited knowledge makes me think it should be "Sakakibara Mechnical Corp.") Relevant page.
Either way, I'm not sure why this is considered "homebrew" - considering that it seems to be backed by a company of some sort.
The PS controllers are easier to use on a computer?
Google's first result on xbox usb controller. Note lack of programming chips, or even any chips at all.
Wasn't the XBOX controller interface basically USB with different pin positions or something?
Unfortunately, it looks like Mirrordot completely cannot handle frames.
Firefox shows no content (presumably because it displays Mirrordot's banner, and thinks that framesets are invalid in that context).
Even if it did work, I doubt mirrordot would be mirroring the contents of the framesets - so it wouldn't actually help.
A brief tests shows that CORAL has better luck.
Especially considering that it's not VBScript's fault, is the WMP ActiveX control. That particular piece of code can be translated into JScript rather trivially and work just as well.
It will not work without Windows media player.
It does not involve any privlege escalation either - it was designed to do that (even if rather stupid).
Kinda wish the modded-Informative post-bashing would at least get their facts right... Yeah, I know, never going to happen.
Does Flashblock help? There have been reports of popups through Flash (since Firefox has, AFAIK, no real way of knowing whether a popup from a plugin is legit).
Hmm, so they're doing a proper MSI now?
Last I checked - it was a MSI file that launched the normal installer. Yeah, real useful. I'm hoping that's been changed; havn't been tracking the installer issues.
Not really.
1.0.x are security releases; they're working on a 1.1 (with stuff like Yet Another Options Dialog).
It's still good that they're making security fixes as fast as they can, I guess - but that also means it's needing security fixes at a high pace.
Given that there seems to have been quite a bit of community grumbling over MoFo decisions[1], are there any concrete plans to improve communicating with the community at large (not marketing, but rather to distribute organizational-level decisions)? This role currently seems to be handled by people like Asa, who is also busy with other things such as release management.
[1] Including cease of Seamonkey as a mozilla.org product, the Firefox naming thing, U.M.O. limboness &c.