while they are at it. I have a job to turn a pile
of ada into a compiling set of c++. I can just build and sort through the error messages to find out which WITH'ed or #INCLUDE'd files are missing or broken but its turned out faster to write a cascade
of filters in AWK which build a report of dependencies as an HTML page. Any module is listed and each module referenced goes into a sublist. It generates anchors and HREFs to lead the way around the dependency tree and color codes the module names according to the availability of the module. I hope they come up with a less confusing metaphore than Clear Case when they design the version control GUI.
The larger the development project, the more likely it has to incorporate reused code and code in more than one language so here's my salute to their good intentions...and good luck! [they will need more
than language neutrality: they need archtectural neutrality to encompass OO languages alongside scripting languages and procedural languages. and
what about languages that support templating?]
Results 1-3 of about 3 containing ""WebWorm Generation""
1. This site is defaced!!!
This site is defaced!!! NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm generation 5.
www.videocardforum.com
2. This site is defaced!!!
This site is defaced!!! NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm generation 8.
www.dslwebserver.com/main/sbs-zonealarm-configure. html
3. This site is defaced!!!
This site is defaced!!! NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm generation 11.
sprites.planet-megaman.com/credits.shtml
when asked to find "Webworm Generation". But why only 3 if thousands were reported in the art.? Maybe the sysadmins all cleaned things up in the last 1/2 hour? Mountain View...I think we have a problem....
sending email! We/.ers get to talk about
stuff that really matters!
So maybe at a seance, your loved ones can still read your mail to you even if the medium doesn't know the password.
...I'm gonna start riding a bicycle:
YOU: "I'd rather take the car to my regular mechanic but I'm not sure it will make it all the way home"
GUY IN GREASY OVERALLS, CIGARETTE IN MOUTH: "Whats it doin'?"
YOU: "It keeps trying to exit the expressway when I go by the red light district".
GIGOCIM: "Uh huh. When'd that start?"
YOU: "Not sure...I noticed after I stopped at the Starbucks this morning."
GIGOCIM: "The one by the college campus?"
YOU: "yeah but whats that got to do with..."
GIGOCIM: "Ya got one of them there viruses...don't
you know you gotta put a firewall on theses cars?. I can clean it up and patch the IP stack for you by 5:00...only cost ya 784.95"
Hebrew calendar. every year, the same old joke:
"the hollidays! They came early this year!"
"Nu! they came late last year!"
"Oy! they never come on time."
Luni-solar! 28 day months no matter what and you
know its the beginning of the month if the moon is
dark and middle of the month if the moon is full. period.
You just throw in a 13th month now and then in a pattern that repeats every 19 years. what could be simpler?
yesterday's discussion on antispam email tools stirred up
a passing mention of the false-positives issue.
The results you get appear to depend highly on
what kind of traffic is comming in. The nice thing about gmail is that with its generous storage allotment, you have 30 days to scan the spam list
before the mail is actually flushed. Personally,
I only seem get email alerts from one source [that is heavily laden with adverts] mismarked. I am quite happy with gmail as it has no other misfires and easily beats my comcast, att and [while I had
it] aol mail handling. You might want to
consider the discussed vulnerability at that link above
regarding how spammers ever find your gmail account in the first place. I used one of my invites to give myself a new account...that one has received absolutely 0 spam since Sep 1 [but yes the acct name is longer and not readily
assembled from dictionaries].
well, like we say, YMMV. I don't have as bad a
time with gmail as you report but on closer inspection of my trashcans, I see gmail has been tossing more than a few of my washington post alerts so I sure can't say you are having an unusual experience. I guess I have to conclude that the success of Google's filtering is dependent on the particular flavor of e-sewage you happen to be getting.
[late 70s] that DNA was the only persistent data storage media nature had until we apes invented languages that we could symbolically preserve. All that has essentially progressed, and what has been changing rapidly with advances in biotech, is the speed of data access into DNA. 5 yeas ago, the best guess [and the big money of govt and industry] was that it would take us 10 years to transcribe the human genome...and now thats already done. We are getting faster even faster than we expected. [that technological
acceleration could be partly attributed to the open exchange of techniques and discovered sequences that the consortium of biochemists had agreed upon at the outset of the project...kind of like developing products in open source] When that data access speeds up another 8 or 10 orders of magnitude and is both R and W,[and not much sooner!] we can talk about DNA as if it were magnetic media and seriously talk about its applications...Makes you wonder if the lessons of open source are going to have to be rediscoverd as we further exploit what software engineering has to teach us about handling DNA.
The way their testing was conducted, they probably had to overlook spam filters that are embedded in proprietary email services but if you
are only interested in getting all your mail and
none of the spam, google is doing a great job.
My gmail account has had 2 false positives out of 500 messages. Given the vulnerability to having your address fall into unknown hands that is inherent in Google's viral marketing technique for promoting the product, I would bet LOTS of other GMAIL users have the large number of spams coming in...even on new accounts where they have been careful who they gave the address too. I get about a dozen spam items a day but when one of the
sh!theads sells his address list to the next spammer, I can get a burst. Bottom line: ZERO spams in my inbox...none...not any. The Bayesian stuff that spammers try to circumvent, the spoofed headers...so far none of it fools Google. And since it buffers the spam in its capacious 1Gb-per-account holdings, I have 30 days to check for false positives at my liesure.
Questions?
1. what vulnerability?
when you accept a google gmail invitation, no matter how many hands it has gone through, Google posts a notification of your new address to the original giver of the invite...who could be some spammer you never met....happened to me.
2. any pattern to the false positives?
not sure...only have two data points. Those two items were email alerts from newspaper subscriptions which tend to be crambed with ad text and ad links...in which case, gmail is clearly trying to do me a favor and I appreciate the effort.
Valid point. The alleged dearth of qualified engineers DOES have to do with HR's shopping habits as much as with the labor pool's being composed of individuals with so much pride or fear or greed that work on "legacy" systems is beneath them.
I don't see the OFFTOPIC as a fair score at all. Hazzards of amateur moderting I guess. Maybe there are some HR lurkers on/. They are right down there with the PHBs [ok, now THAT calls for a troll demerit! ]
from the NYT article: ...The researchers said that Google had responded quickly to their alert last month and had begun releasing a corrected version of the program on Dec. 10....
BTW, CNET reported this last night.
[obligatory jab at microsoft,typical at this point in a comment, is being left as an exercise for the readers....]
let alone the votes of an entire state. This is a slap on the wrist and won't even slow diebold down in its push to unload flakey voting solutions on dimwitted politicians [or are they conniving politicians who actually welcome abusable voting tools that come with a smoke screen of reliablity through technology?]
...poor management...
yes, definitely poor management...I was one of the engineers, not one of the managers. The question is: whose poor management? Dec was NOT making it with any of its vax-on-a-chip designs...Intel was eating our lunch on $/FLOPS basis and that is
what was selling systems at the time.
That Compaq bought DEC for its customer list and Intel bought DEC microprocessor design/fab capacity to avoid a profit-hemoraging patent battle was vaguely sensible at the time. Is the management misstep you refer to the question of why did HP pick up a bunch of niche-market product lines [and my retirement plan:-( ] when they already had a competative product? Or is the mismanagment you refer to the steps they have taken since the acquisitions? We engineers assumed that Palmer, haveing run DEC semiconductor
operations, would not have sold what we saw as the crown jewels. But DEC had something called share holders and it was in bad financial condition.
Who was making the management mistake? the buyers or the seller?
who modded you "interesting?", you're trolling! [or did Carly lay you off?] HP did/does have great high performance platforms. I worked at DEC when the Alpha first came out and DEC had already been
nervous about PA-RISC for a while at that point. The problem is, HP, like every other computer company, can't run a charity for good engineering by offering several 64 bit architectures and several OS's. They should have spun off something like "Legacy Computer Corp." a while back and let all the fans of the various high quality/low volume systems pay the real costs for continuing support. HP
has been fighting to streamline their high performance catalog for over a year and surprise surprise: they have not pleased everyone.
I was going to post this anonymously because the person who told me about it works at Intel and needs no more grief. But ths morning, I was able to find confirmation from VNUNET and/. editors are unlikely to put up two Intel chip stories in one day so I am not submitting a story. Why make it so NOBODY ever hears this news?
Intel is, no make that was, rumored to be, [no, definitely are] in the process of buying the design group that develops Itanium
from HP.
The vnunet page has a little speculation as to why the move is being made. But if you put that together with HP's general strategy of streamlining its fragmented high performance server offerings:
Then the picture that emerges is in agreement with parent comment: Intel is in catch-up mode. They have, as other stories and commenters have pointed out in/., ceded a few points to AMD in the 64bit architecture wars and are doubtless uncomfortable not holding a microsoftish position of utter dominance.
This article is a hoot. It contains the phrase: ... The Chinese news agency Xinhua stated that, "in China the radiation effect is always positive, leading to bigger and better vegetables that will revolutionise agriculture."... Which, if more/.ers RTFA, would be destined to replace our aging "In soviet Russia, the government [verb of your choice] YOU!" joke.
I should have spent a few more words saying what I meant....I did not mean that the names were used
without permission. I meant that those names, because they are associated with imaginations that
LEAD technical developments, set up an expectation
about the contest which was contrary to the nature
of the contest [which nature we can charitably describe as reacting to technical developments.]
write briefly, explain at length:(
The space tehter idea has some visibility...it was
the cover story on a SciAm this year and I caught two articles reviewed in Science News. The potential [was that a pun?] for some configurations to generate electricty is a nearer term accomplishement than boosting payloads. Maybe NASA would get the $ to make it more of a race with ESA if we could fool some congressman into thinking his district could be the ground station to receive a lot of "free" killowatts. We are desperate for the killowatts over here while most people assume getting stuff into space is a solved problem. A conventional launch has one of the most wasteful energy budgets of any
engineering exercise that developed nations
carry out. How many taxpayers do you suppose understand that a hundred tons of rocket and fuel
to get couple of tons of equiment into orbit compares with the space lift idea about the way
lifting an office building to raise a person compares with that person riding the elvator?
But even more annoying is the misuse of the names of some SF writers whose genius foresaw technology when engineers had not yet dreamed of it.
Instead of just using the names to promote an existing project that needs some PR, why not have a contest more in the spirit of those writers and ask for a work of SF that predicts some technology we have not heard of yet?
nothing is what it seems or is reported to be...
on
Symantec to Buy Veritas
·
· Score: 3, Interesting
from the art: ...It would be somewhat surprising to see Veritas agree to an acquisition , given that the company's CEO Gary Bloom has long said he thinks Veritas can grow at a steady pace on its own. Veritas has acquired numerous companies over the past two years, trying to build out its server software portfolio....
Gary Bloom used to work for Oracle...he was the VP that oversaw Oracle's swallowing of e-travel so he knows exactly what he is up against. [disclosure...I was one of a small handful of SW engineers who escaped with some dot.com lucre when Oracle later disgorged e-travel.] I would look at Symantec buying Veritas as a defensive move...EMC has moved into new markets aggressively
and managing the security of all that data they already store/fetch would be logical. It would also seriously crimp a growth path that Symantec could take into the same market space from its position as a security provider. Now, who can tell me if I should sell my VRTS?
And defense contractors are NOT good places to look.
Rules is rules and you just aren't going to touch
security matters without a clearance which currently
take up to two years to come through if there is anything even
slightly less than clean-living-all-american in
your background. We have interns at the FFRC
where I work and they suffer for a year or so
being unable to even have an "interim" clearance.
Our employer definitely DOES appreciate the need for
ITS but in a DOD environment, it is one of the worst profressions for
that old catch-22 of "cant get the job without experience doing that job". why don't you strike up a friendship with dubaya? His friends get appointments to sensitive positions without the hassle of thorough background check;)
Slashdot Mirror
while they are at it. I have a job to turn a pile of ada into a compiling set of c++. I can just build and sort through the error messages to find out which WITH'ed or #INCLUDE'd files are missing or broken but its turned out faster to write a cascade of filters in AWK which build a report of dependencies as an HTML page. Any module is listed and each module referenced goes into a sublist. It generates anchors and HREFs to lead the way around the dependency tree and color codes the module names according to the availability of the module.
I hope they come up with a less confusing metaphore than Clear Case when they design the version control GUI.
The larger the development project, the more likely it has to incorporate reused code and code in more than one language so here's my salute to their good intentions...and good luck!
[they will need more than language neutrality: they need archtectural neutrality to encompass OO languages alongside scripting languages and procedural languages. and what about languages that support templating?]
Mountain View...I think we have a problem....
I my family got ahold of my passwords now that would probably precipitate my death so lets leave well enough alone!
sending email! We /.ers get to talk about
stuff that really matters!
So maybe at a seance, your loved ones can still read your mail to you even if the medium doesn't know the password.
...I'm gonna start riding a bicycle:
YOU: "I'd rather take the car to my regular mechanic but I'm not sure it will make it all the way home"
GUY IN GREASY OVERALLS, CIGARETTE IN MOUTH: "Whats it doin'?"
YOU: "It keeps trying to exit the expressway when I go by the red light district".
GIGOCIM: "Uh huh. When'd that start?"
YOU: "Not sure...I noticed after I stopped at the Starbucks this morning."
GIGOCIM: "The one by the college campus?"
YOU: "yeah but whats that got to do with..."
GIGOCIM: "Ya got one of them there viruses...don't you know you gotta put a firewall on theses cars?. I can clean it up and patch the IP stack for you by 5:00...only cost ya 784.95"
[thud]
Hebrew calendar. every year, the same old joke: "the hollidays! They came early this year!" "Nu! they came late last year!" "Oy! they never come on time."
Luni-solar! 28 day months no matter what and you know its the beginning of the month if the moon is dark and middle of the month if the moon is full. period.
You just throw in a 13th month now and then in a pattern that repeats every 19 years. what could be simpler?
yesterday's discussion on antispam email tools stirred up a passing mention of the false-positives issue. The results you get appear to depend highly on what kind of traffic is comming in. The nice thing about gmail is that with its generous storage allotment, you have 30 days to scan the spam list before the mail is actually flushed. Personally, I only seem get email alerts from one source [that is heavily laden with adverts] mismarked. I am quite happy with gmail as it has no other misfires and easily beats my comcast, att and [while I had it] aol mail handling.
You might want to consider the discussed vulnerability at that link above regarding how spammers ever find your gmail account in the first place. I used one of my invites to give myself a new account...that one has received absolutely 0 spam since Sep 1 [but yes the acct name is longer and not readily assembled from dictionaries].
well, like we say, YMMV. I don't have as bad a time with gmail as you report but on closer inspection of my trashcans, I see gmail has been tossing more than a few of my washington post alerts so I sure can't say you are having an unusual experience. I guess I have to conclude that the success of Google's filtering is dependent on the particular flavor of e-sewage you happen to be getting.
[late 70s] that DNA was the only persistent data storage media nature had until we apes invented languages that we could symbolically preserve. All that has essentially progressed, and what has been changing rapidly with advances in biotech, is the speed of data access into DNA. 5 yeas ago, the best guess [and the big money of govt and industry] was that it would take us 10 years to transcribe the human genome...and now thats already done. We are getting faster even faster than we expected. [that technological acceleration could be partly attributed to the open exchange of techniques and discovered sequences that the consortium of biochemists had agreed upon at the outset of the project...kind of like developing products in open source]
When that data access speeds up another 8 or 10 orders of magnitude and is both R and W,[and not much sooner!] we can talk about DNA as if it were magnetic media and seriously talk about its applications...Makes you wonder if the lessons of open source are going to have to be rediscoverd as we further exploit what software engineering has to teach us about handling DNA.
The way their testing was conducted, they probably had to overlook spam filters that are embedded in proprietary email services but if you are only interested in getting all your mail and none of the spam, google is doing a great job.
My gmail account has had 2 false positives out of 500 messages. Given the vulnerability to having your address fall into unknown hands that is inherent in Google's viral marketing technique for promoting the product, I would bet LOTS of other GMAIL users have the large number of spams coming in...even on new accounts where they have been careful who they gave the address too. I get about a dozen spam items a day but when one of the sh!theads sells his address list to the next spammer, I can get a burst. Bottom line: ZERO spams in my inbox...none...not any. The Bayesian stuff that spammers try to circumvent, the spoofed headers...so far none of it fools Google. And since it buffers the spam in its capacious 1Gb-per-account holdings, I have 30 days to check for false positives at my liesure.
Questions?
1. what vulnerability?
when you accept a google gmail invitation, no matter how many hands it has gone through, Google posts a notification of your new address to the original giver of the invite...who could be some spammer you never met....happened to me.
2. any pattern to the false positives?
not sure...only have two data points. Those two items were email alerts from newspaper subscriptions which tend to be crambed with ad text and ad links...in which case, gmail is clearly trying to do me a favor and I appreciate the effort.
Valid point. The alleged dearth of qualified engineers DOES have to do with HR's shopping habits as much as with the labor pool's being composed of individuals with so much pride or fear or greed that work on "legacy" systems is beneath them. /. They are right down there with the PHBs [ok, now THAT calls for a troll demerit! ]
I don't see the OFFTOPIC as a fair score at all. Hazzards of amateur moderting I guess. Maybe there are some HR lurkers on
from the NYT article:
...The researchers said that Google had responded quickly to their alert last month and had begun releasing a corrected version of the program on Dec. 10....
BTW, CNET reported this last night.
[obligatory jab at microsoft,typical at this point in a comment, is being left as an exercise for the readers....]
let alone the votes of an entire state. This is a slap on the wrist and won't even slow diebold down in its push to unload flakey voting solutions on dimwitted politicians [or are they conniving politicians who actually welcome abusable voting tools that come with a smoke screen of reliablity through technology?]
...poor management...
:-( ] when they already had a competative product? Or is the mismanagment you refer to the steps they have taken since the acquisitions? We engineers assumed that Palmer, haveing run DEC semiconductor
operations, would not have sold what we saw as the crown jewels. But DEC had something called share holders and it was in bad financial condition.
yes, definitely poor management...I was one of the engineers, not one of the managers. The question is: whose poor management? Dec was NOT making it with any of its vax-on-a-chip designs...Intel was eating our lunch on $/FLOPS basis and that is what was selling systems at the time.
That Compaq bought DEC for its customer list and Intel bought DEC microprocessor design/fab capacity to avoid a profit-hemoraging patent battle was vaguely sensible at the time. Is the management misstep you refer to the question of why did HP pick up a bunch of niche-market product lines [and my retirement plan
Who was making the management mistake? the buyers or the seller?
90% less current and since power is
I-squared R
that REALLY cuts the power dissapation which his the brick wall most silicon vendors now approach?
I was being a bit lazy in pointing to my own comment [though it did contain the most current development ] on HP reducing its diverse hi performance options. Slashdot has covered this topic every step of the long, sad way: /. mention
HP pruning the OS proliferation, HP repeats: alpha is really going away! and alpha chip to be discontinued
oh, what a small world...just noticed HP's dropping TRU64 was a gain for Veritas which was the subject of a recent
who modded you "interesting?", you're trolling! [or did Carly lay you off?]
HP did/does have great high performance platforms. I worked at DEC when the Alpha first came out and DEC had already been nervous about PA-RISC for a while at that point.
The problem is, HP, like every other computer company, can't run a charity for good engineering by offering several 64 bit architectures and several OS's. They should have spun off something like "Legacy Computer Corp." a while back and let all the fans of the various high quality/low volume systems pay the real costs for continuing support. HP has been fighting to streamline their high performance catalog for over a year and surprise surprise: they have not pleased everyone.
Well, I am definitely going to have to type faster. by the time I hit submit, Cowboyneal had made a liar out of me!
Intel is, no make that was, rumored to be, [no, definitely are] in the process of buying the design group that develops Itanium from HP.
The vnunet page has a little speculation as to why the move is being made. But if you put that together with HP's general strategy of streamlining its fragmented high performance server offerings: Then the picture that emerges is in agreement with parent comment: Intel is in catch-up mode. They have, as other stories and commenters have pointed out in
This article is a hoot. It contains the phrase:
... The Chinese news agency Xinhua stated that, "in China the radiation effect is always positive, leading to bigger and better vegetables that will revolutionise agriculture."... /.ers RTFA, would be destined to replace our aging "In soviet Russia, the government [verb of your choice] YOU!" joke.
Which, if more
I would have assumed the US has an equivalent of the GCHQ organization. I enquired about it and was told we have No Such Agengcy.
I should have spent a few more words saying what I meant....I did not mean that the names were used without permission. I meant that those names, because they are associated with imaginations that LEAD technical developments, set up an expectation about the contest which was contrary to the nature of the contest [which nature we can charitably describe as reacting to technical developments.]
write briefly, explain at length:(
The space tehter idea has some visibility...it was the cover story on a SciAm this year and I caught two articles reviewed in Science News. The potential [was that a pun?] for some configurations to generate electricty is a nearer term accomplishement than boosting payloads. Maybe NASA would get the $ to make it more of a race with ESA if we could fool some congressman into thinking his district could be the ground station to receive a lot of "free" killowatts. We are desperate for the killowatts over here while most people assume getting stuff into space is a solved problem. A conventional launch has one of the most wasteful energy budgets of any engineering exercise that developed nations carry out. How many taxpayers do you suppose understand that a hundred tons of rocket and fuel to get couple of tons of equiment into orbit compares with the space lift idea about the way lifting an office building to raise a person compares with that person riding the elvator?
But even more annoying is the misuse of the names of some SF writers whose genius foresaw technology when engineers had not yet dreamed of it.
Instead of just using the names to promote an existing project that needs some PR, why not have a contest more in the spirit of those writers and ask for a work of SF that predicts some technology we have not heard of yet?
from the art:
...It would be somewhat surprising to see Veritas agree to an acquisition , given that the company's CEO Gary Bloom has long said he thinks Veritas can grow at a steady pace on its own. Veritas has acquired numerous companies over the past two years, trying to build out its server software portfolio....
Gary Bloom used to work for Oracle...he was the VP that oversaw Oracle's swallowing of e-travel so he knows exactly what he is up against. [disclosure...I was one of a small handful of SW engineers who escaped with some dot.com lucre when Oracle later disgorged e-travel.]
I would look at Symantec buying Veritas as a defensive move...EMC has moved into new markets aggressively and managing the security of all that data they already store/fetch would be logical. It would also seriously crimp a growth path that Symantec could take into the same market space from its position as a security provider.
Now, who can tell me if I should sell my VRTS?
And defense contractors are NOT good places to look. Rules is rules and you just aren't going to touch security matters without a clearance which currently take up to two years to come through if there is anything even slightly less than clean-living-all-american in your background. We have interns at the FFRC where I work and they suffer for a year or so being unable to even have an "interim" clearance. Our employer definitely DOES appreciate the need for ITS but in a DOD environment, it is one of the worst profressions for that old catch-22 of "cant get the job without experience doing that job".
why don't you strike up a friendship with dubaya? His friends get appointments to sensitive positions without the hassle of thorough background check;)