A
Sciencedaily.com article recaps a news release about U of Toronto
researchers, David Lie
and Ashvin Goel,
who are at work on [as in they do not have a finished tool or product
to announce] on software that not only detects intrusions but backtracks
to the sources and cleans up the damage. The article hints
These naive hackers also leave clues. Although they use IP (Internet protocol) addresses to bounce from machine to machine, hackers pick up languages used on interfaces along the way, leaving a trail of breadcrumbs that trace back to the point of origin.
that the native human language of the locale where each in the chain of nodes used for an attack creeps into the evidence/clues. I wonder what they are talking about?
Since the FBI is asleep at the switch AND covering up about their indifference and ineptitude, perhaps
my suggestion that the US develop an IP combat capability and use the vigilence of its own citizens would not be so nutty after all.
but I use Visual Route to get a location [when DNS traceback hasn't been compromized] of the IP
address from which I am being attacked. SOUTH Korea, especially considering its smaller population, is over represented among the attempts to feel up my firewall. I imagine that if I were
running Linux instead of win2K, I'd have some free tool to see where all the wierd FTPs, Telnets and pings are coming from. I don't have a lot of confidence that I have run the culprit to ground. I am open to suggestions for better ways to finger these f__kers so I can rat them out to their service providers. If the Bill of Rights specified we Americans had the right to bear arms because there was, at the time of its writing, both mistrust of a standing army and the assumption that an armed citizenry was the best pool from which to draw a DEFENSE force, then shouldn't our 21st century Americans, in addition to a shotgun in a rack near the back door, have a firewall and a set of trace back tools wired to homeland security's armada of DOS attack servers? I mean, if I fed them an IP address, couldn't a server farm, operated by the US for retaliatory and first strike purposes, blitz the bogies' server until smoke was coming out of the DNS proximate to the culprit?
Oh, right, I keep forgetting that the current administration has no clue, no imagination and for the time being, no senior staff for overseeing a defense of our IP infrastructue:-
Well in THIS case it would have to be true anyway.
my high energy physics is a bit rusty but I am not aware that we have a universally accepted theory of WHY IS THERE MATTER MATTER EVERYWHERE BUT BAREELY A POSITRON OF ANTI-MATTER. Ask a physicist why matter/anti-matter symetry is broken. [why, when the soup of photons that was the cooling big bang began to coallesce into matter, we did not get about equal amounts of both spieces] I don't know if they can answer that. So what the AF proposes to do with your tax dollars is develop an application in an area of science where there may not be enough basic theory. For once, the Bush league, which by most measures does not know or care jack shit about basic science is going to wind up buying some. [now THAT is a reason for secrecy I would believe...they don't like being screamed at by taxpayers and laughed at by physicists]
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I stand corrected. I couldn't understand the
article well enough to make a correct identification of the distinction between the two designs. Funny that my comment got modded all the way to 5 even though "check your facts" would have been a fair response.
There are no pictures, no equations.
And note, in reading that when they say:
The researchers used electron-beam lithography to produce the beam-and-pad
the first beam is stream of particles/photons and the second "beam"
is a little silicon springboard that can move under the influence of an applied voltage. See the cover story on the Jan 2003 issue of Sci. Am. for a lot more of the "how it works" info. The
on line version is $cienctific American's to increase revenue...the hardcopy at your library has the pictures and costs nothing.
BTW It doesn't look like one of these things would
fare well if you dropped it.
I checked for articles on "patents" at Scientific
American...they have published over 140 in the last
6 or so years counting columns, articles and letters and virtually every one of them levels scathing criticism at what stupid things we allow to be patented or how patents have retarded progress in some very important technologies [their 2001 article on how many drug companies are suing and counter suing is scary, I wish they'd just spend the money
on finding the cures!] The alarm Groklaw sounds about the software industry has already come to pass in parts of the biotech industry and the solution that some of us espouse for permiting the unfettered advance of software, open source, has been embraced by
Worldchanging.org and by BIOS an organization that wants, in their words, to "develop and validate a new means for the cooperative invention, improvement and delivery of biological technologies, drawing inspiration from the open source software movement to forge a 'protected commons' of knowledge and technology."
I think the thing that has kept software innovation from stalling out completely in a patent litigation tarpit has been the combination of open source and the fact that you can often bring a software idea to market for vastly less venture money than a new drug takes. Those VC's and big pharma's do all they can to see that such big gambles pay off. But trying to own and "idea" when everybody and his sister are working get an idea that solves the same problem is bound to make for friction, duplication and loose-loose litigation. If you get out there first with something people really need and you don't gouge your customers, just staying one innovation ahead of the competion can keep you in business and maybe even make you some money. One machine vision startup I worked for NEVER patented a really significant advanced technique, preferring to keep it a trade secret because they took out a patent, competitors would find a way around it more easily than they could reverse engineer it. 20 years later, they are still in business. Its much harder to spend nearly a billion dollars on a new drug and still keep it a secret until you are making sales.
If I hadn't already blown my mod points this morning when there wasn't such a fun item, I'd mod this up for its INSIGHT and mod "totally unexpected"
down for lack of same: the ego trip of working with the very smartest people on the winningest ideas is a BETTER HOOK than being paid above average. Just Think about it: 5 years ago
when a lot of us thought [hoped?] we were going to have these problems Google may be facing, a lot of us worked til we dropped and don't have anything to show for it but burnout and an interesting page on our resumes. We didn't go into it for the money any more than those lucky bums at Google did. [but personally, money is running a strong second place for motivation.] Seriously, its the mission thing that keeps me at the keyboard long after sane employees have had dinner and watched whatever is on at 8:00.
[yes, I have no clue what is on television at 8:00]
People just aren't knowledgeable enough about the threat of cybersecurity to give a shit. These people think that there is a real threat that their house may be singled out in a dirty-bomb attack because the Bush administration is happy to have them think that. As long as the Bush administration can keep people's minds on a single track of terrorism there's no need to bring to light other avenues of attack.
What you say is true enough about the the Joe and Jane Consoomer types that are referred to in latter part of the article but the "people" we are talking about here are the govmint folks whose job and is and whose claim on our loyalty and obedience is their duty TO PROTECT US. If those people don't know Internet Protocol from Intellectual Property we should fire their asses rather than let them drive every competant person they can away from the job. Any body with a cable modem who took a minute to look at their firewall log could tell you how many times per hour their house WAS singled out for molestation by bots and hackers. Watching some pimple working from behind a Korean ISP try to telnet a home computer in Massachusettes IS a little creepy and the kind of thing that would alarm the average homeowner who would be all over 911 if he saw a person physically prowling about in his back yard...if only they were looking!
Biotech is one place that NEEDS open source
on
Amateur Revolution?
·
· Score: 2, Informative
I tend to agree with the many posted comments which
judge the Fast Company article a bit overblown. There is enough to be gained even from the failures of the amateurs and nobody dies if their collaborations are
stiffled by the interference of for-profit operations. ONE good effect of all the open source ferment has been to teach a lesson to the biotech industry.
We are all hurt by the huge delays that patent
litigation introduces into the process of biotech drug and therapy commercialization. The day before the Fast Company article and with a more fact-based report, the current issue of
Nature had an
article on "Open Source Biology about how biotechnologists
who are willing to share their tool discoveries partly for the
synergistic benefit that will have on the collective
advancement of research and largely at frustration over the mire of patent litigation
that gums up biotech research programs. [NPG charges for access to their content] The effort is spearheaded by
Biological Inovation for Open Society and with the support of
of the World Intellectual Property Organization are ushering
in a new paradigm for science research.
Fair enough, I shoulda checked my facts. But doesn't B/G need some pretty effetive airconditioning to operate? Maybe that bigger-than-a-cesna better run with the windows rolled down. (which wont't bother an autopilot much;)
It is just a marketing stunt by a motorcycle magazine! You think they have the technical talent to make it through a year of operation, or to deal with the spam and DOS attacks that such services draw? I would think such an email account was a lifetime deal since it would take me a lifetime to fill it up and I would deed it off to my grandchildren for all the heirloom emails it would come to contain. Google has that sort of staying power...I hope. Also, where in the article is any link to a page that would let you sign up for this service? Its one thing to get a market buzz by SAYING you will give out 100GB accounts [buzz being the clear motive for this stunt] and another to make it easy for large numbers of people to actually take you up on the offer.
I am claiming Copyright on this SIG so you cannot make a copy of it to rat on me to the authorities because it is also offensive. I ask you to engage your ISP's filth-filter if you are younger than 18. Between DRM and prudery, we will wind up filling our 100GB with blanks or the word "CENSORED". So you wanna wag dicks huh? "Cheney, Cheney, Cheney!" Top that!
The dairy farmers in wisconsin where the transmitting antennas are burried in miles-wide patches of farmland have the same [foil beanie] fears as people who live under high voltage
power lines. If a cow quit giving milk, they
were certain it was the ELF. After all, 60Hz and
12Hz aren't that far appart.
oh, if forgot to mention: I don't think you can fit Blue Gene into any UAV unless you count running a Boeing 747 on autopilot and stuffing it to the gills with computer and diesel generators. the computers proposed at HPEC are mostly very mobile.
comes from building hardware for a specific task.
Unfortunately most of you can't access this little bit of nerd heaven but some incredibly cool hardware architectures are being described at the High Performance Embedded Computing conference. Sky and Mercury have some of their hottest new designs here. How about a
machine that can do a 256 mega-sample FFT in real time?, or a
self configuring supercomputer on a chip? Of course most of these tricks will never escape the lab except for the speed-ups for rendering engines...one place where gamers and the DOD are driving technology in a dead heat race with lots of winners. Besides, in a few months, something will come along that will go even faster than blue gene.
"organized ingorance". [but I like your term] Plain old laziness when confronted with the reading and thinking required to absorb the scientific evidence and view of our existance will suffice. NOBODY is comfortable without some sense of understanding their world but many are content to borrow simplistic, self serving boogeyman theories rather than do the hard work of striving for an objective grasp.
No two people think alike, regardless of any equality of externaly measurable/testable aspects of their intelligence. So what is left to fix? Their EGOs. My understanding of the theoretical advantage of this approach is that it is like the discovery that you could more easily make a waterproof super-thin rubber membrane, despite the tendency of the raw material to have tiny holes, by laminating two thinner membranes: the defects never line up. Two programmers are not likely to have exactly the same blind spots in devising a piece of code. But in practice, the more the two ego's just happen not to get in the way, the sooner the two begin to work just alike, with one merged perspective whereas two competing perspectives were actually the root of the benefit. Back in the 70's the term "egoless programming" was briefly in vogue for conducting code reviews...in my experience it WAS an improvement in quality for code production. Even when it was not better code, at least it had better comments. But DAMN I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE LOOK OVER MY SHOULDER!
Most big money makes big cowards out of the people who hold it. Soros seems cut from much braver material. Of course, he as also
LOST a few billion along the way to becoming a billionaire so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
I watched episode one. Pretty fluffy unless you wanted to watch the first reality TV series about stromatolites [spelling?] and low budget graphics of comet impacts. The music for Sagan's Saga was also much better.
As for political subtexts, I suppose some KKKansans [I can say that? my father and grandfather were born there!] will be uncomfortable that the presentation implies [but does not seem to spell out in so many words] that there is such a thing as evolution. It is much more explicit that the timeline for the process whose end-product is often called "creation" is NOT going to fit withing the biblical 6000 odd years.
Based on how little I expect to learn and how unpoetic the whole thing is, I am skipping the rest of the series.
having gone under with 4 start-ups between 93 and 2001, I think I have scars entitling me to say Mr Graham has hit a couple of nails on the head a couple of years too late. The ideas that were pesuasive to our VC's were NOT persuasive to the
folks we thought were our customers. The net result of a venture is the PRODUCT of the value proposition of the business AS STAFFED AND EXECUTED and the depth of the business concept's grasp of the PERCIEVED NEED for the service or product. Foolish disclosure: I made money on only one of those starups and that entirely by accident. I wish our VC's and senior management had the long term vision, so absent in those days, that is implied in Graham's article.
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Since the FBI is asleep at the switch AND covering up about their indifference and ineptitude, perhaps my suggestion that the US develop an IP combat capability and use the vigilence of its own citizens would not be so nutty after all.
but I use Visual Route to get a location [when DNS traceback hasn't been compromized] of the IP address from which I am being attacked. SOUTH Korea, especially considering its smaller population, is over represented among the attempts to feel up my firewall. I imagine that if I were running Linux instead of win2K, I'd have some free tool to see where all the wierd FTPs, Telnets and pings are coming from. I don't have a lot of confidence that I have run the culprit to ground. I am open to suggestions for better ways to finger these f__kers so I can rat them out to their service providers.
If the Bill of Rights specified we Americans had the right to bear arms because there was, at the time of its writing, both mistrust of a standing army and the assumption that an armed citizenry was the best pool from which to draw a DEFENSE force, then shouldn't our 21st century Americans, in addition to a shotgun in a rack near the back door, have a firewall and a set of trace back tools wired to homeland security's armada of DOS attack servers? I mean, if I fed them an IP address, couldn't a server farm, operated by the US for retaliatory and first strike purposes, blitz the bogies' server until smoke was coming out of the DNS proximate to the culprit?
Oh, right, I keep forgetting that the current administration has no clue, no imagination and for the time being, no senior staff for overseeing a defense of our IP infrastructue:-
depends on where the routers are. we could DOS some innocent bystanders in the process.
I couldn't think of it when I posted, but I found a very readable article from someone at SLAC about the mystery of m/am asymmetry
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Well in THIS case it would have to be true anyway.
my high energy physics is a bit rusty but I am not aware that we have a universally accepted theory of WHY IS THERE MATTER MATTER EVERYWHERE BUT BAREELY A POSITRON OF ANTI-MATTER. Ask a physicist why matter/anti-matter symetry is broken. [why, when the soup of photons that was the cooling big bang began to coallesce into matter, we did not get about equal amounts of both spieces] I don't know if they can answer that. So what the AF proposes to do with your tax dollars is develop an application in an area of science where there may not be enough basic theory. For once, the Bush league, which by most measures does not know or care jack shit about basic science is going to wind up buying some. [now THAT is a reason for secrecy I would believe...they don't like being screamed at by taxpayers and laughed at by physicists]
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I stand corrected. I couldn't understand the article well enough to make a correct identification of the distinction between the two designs. Funny that my comment got modded all the way to 5 even though "check your facts" would have been a fair response.
BTW It doesn't look like one of these things would fare well if you dropped it.
I checked for articles on "patents" at Scientific American...they have published over 140 in the last 6 or so years counting columns, articles and letters and virtually every one of them levels scathing criticism at what stupid things we allow to be patented or how patents have retarded progress in some very important technologies [their 2001 article on how many drug companies are suing and counter suing is scary, I wish they'd just spend the money on finding the cures!] The alarm Groklaw sounds about the software industry has already come to pass in parts of the biotech industry and the solution that some of us espouse for permiting the unfettered advance of software, open source, has been embraced by Worldchanging.org and by BIOS an organization that wants, in their words, to "develop and validate a new means for the cooperative invention, improvement and delivery of biological technologies, drawing inspiration from the open source software movement to forge a 'protected commons' of knowledge and technology."
I think the thing that has kept software innovation from stalling out completely in a patent litigation tarpit has been the combination of open source and the fact that you can often bring a software idea to market for vastly less venture money than a new drug takes. Those VC's and big pharma's do all they can to see that such big gambles pay off. But trying to own and "idea" when everybody and his sister are working get an idea that solves the same problem is bound to make for friction, duplication and loose-loose litigation. If you get out there first with something people really need and you don't gouge your customers, just staying one innovation ahead of the competion can keep you in business and maybe even make you some money. One machine vision startup I worked for NEVER patented a really significant advanced technique, preferring to keep it a trade secret because they took out a patent, competitors would find a way around it more easily than they could reverse engineer it. 20 years later, they are still in business. Its much harder to spend nearly a billion dollars on a new drug and still keep it a secret until you are making sales.
If I hadn't already blown my mod points this morning when there wasn't such a fun item, I'd mod this up for its INSIGHT and mod "totally unexpected" down for lack of same: the ego trip of working with the very smartest people on the winningest ideas is a BETTER HOOK than being paid above average. Just Think about it: 5 years ago when a lot of us thought [hoped?] we were going to have these problems Google may be facing, a lot of us worked til we dropped and don't have anything to show for it but burnout and an interesting page on our resumes. We didn't go into it for the money any more than those lucky bums at Google did. [but personally, money is running a strong second place for motivation.] Seriously, its the mission thing that keeps me at the keyboard long after sane employees have had dinner and watched whatever is on at 8:00.
[yes, I have no clue what is on television at 8:00]
People just aren't knowledgeable enough about the threat of cybersecurity to give a shit. These people think that there is a real threat that their house may be singled out in a dirty-bomb attack because the Bush administration is happy to have them think that. As long as the Bush administration can keep people's minds on a single track of terrorism there's no need to bring to light other avenues of attack.
What you say is true enough about the the Joe and Jane Consoomer types that are referred to in latter part of the article but the "people" we are talking about here are the govmint folks whose job and is and whose claim on our loyalty and obedience is their duty TO PROTECT US. If those people don't know Internet Protocol from Intellectual Property we should fire their asses rather than let them drive every competant person they can away from the job.
Any body with a cable modem who took a minute to look at their firewall log could tell you how many times per hour their house WAS singled out for molestation by bots and hackers. Watching some pimple working from behind a Korean ISP try to telnet a home computer in Massachusettes IS a little creepy and the kind of thing that would alarm the average homeowner who would be all over 911 if he saw a person physically prowling about in his back yard...if only they were looking!
I tend to agree with the many posted comments which judge the Fast Company article a bit overblown. There is enough to be gained even from the failures of the amateurs and nobody dies if their collaborations are stiffled by the interference of for-profit operations. ONE good effect of all the open source ferment has been to teach a lesson to the biotech industry. We are all hurt by the huge delays that patent litigation introduces into the process of biotech drug and therapy commercialization. The day before the Fast Company article and with a more fact-based report, the current issue of Nature had an article on "Open Source Biology about how biotechnologists who are willing to share their tool discoveries partly for the synergistic benefit that will have on the collective advancement of research and largely at frustration over the mire of patent litigation that gums up biotech research programs. [NPG charges for access to their content] The effort is spearheaded by Biological Inovation for Open Society and with the support of of the World Intellectual Property Organization are ushering in a new paradigm for science research.
Fair enough, I shoulda checked my facts. But doesn't B/G need some pretty effetive airconditioning to operate? Maybe that bigger-than-a-cesna better run with the windows rolled down. (which wont't bother an autopilot much ;)
It is just a marketing stunt by a motorcycle magazine! You think they have the technical talent to make it through a year of operation, or to deal with the spam and DOS attacks that such services draw? I would think such an email account was a lifetime deal since it would take me a lifetime to fill it up and I would deed it off to my grandchildren for all the heirloom emails it would come to contain. Google has that sort of staying power...I hope. Also, where in the article is any link to a page that would let you sign up for this service? Its one thing to get a market buzz by SAYING you will give out 100GB accounts [buzz being the clear motive for this stunt] and another to make it easy for large numbers of people to actually take you up on the offer.
I am claiming Copyright on this SIG so you cannot make a copy of it to rat on me to the authorities because it is also offensive. I ask you to engage your ISP's filth-filter if you are younger than 18. Between DRM and prudery, we will wind up filling our 100GB with blanks or the word "CENSORED".
So you wanna wag dicks huh? "Cheney, Cheney, Cheney!" Top that!
The dairy farmers in wisconsin where the transmitting antennas are burried in miles-wide patches of farmland have the same [foil beanie] fears as people who live under high voltage power lines. If a cow quit giving milk, they were certain it was the ELF. After all, 60Hz and 12Hz aren't that far appart.
Daily show, of course.
hmmm, how embarrassing,...like the instruction says: "did you check the links?"
oh, if forgot to mention: I don't think you can fit Blue Gene into any UAV unless you count running a Boeing 747 on autopilot and stuffing it to the gills with computer and diesel generators. the computers proposed at HPEC are mostly very mobile.
comes from building hardware for a specific task. Unfortunately most of you can't access this little bit of nerd heaven but some incredibly cool hardware architectures are being described at the High Performance Embedded Computing conference. Sky and Mercury have some of their hottest new designs here. How about a machine that can do a 256 mega-sample FFT in real time?, or a self configuring supercomputer on a chip? Of course most of these tricks will never escape the lab except for the speed-ups for rendering engines...one place where gamers and the DOD are driving technology in a dead heat race with lots of winners. Besides, in a few months, something will come along that will go even faster than blue gene.
"organized ingorance". [but I like your term] Plain old laziness when confronted with the reading and thinking required to absorb the scientific evidence and view of our existance will suffice. NOBODY is comfortable without some sense of understanding their world but many are content to borrow simplistic, self serving boogeyman theories rather than do the hard work of striving for an objective grasp.
No two people think alike, regardless of any equality of externaly measurable/testable aspects of their intelligence. So what is left to fix? Their EGOs. My understanding of the theoretical advantage of this approach is that it is like the discovery that you could more easily make a waterproof super-thin rubber membrane, despite the tendency of the raw material to have tiny holes, by laminating two thinner membranes: the defects never line up. Two programmers are not likely to have exactly the same blind spots in devising a piece of code. But in practice, the more the two ego's just happen not to get in the way, the sooner the two begin to work just alike, with one merged perspective whereas two competing perspectives were actually the root of the benefit. Back in the 70's the term "egoless programming" was briefly in vogue for conducting code reviews...in my experience it WAS an improvement in quality for code production. Even when it was not better code, at least it had better comments.
But DAMN I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE LOOK OVER MY SHOULDER!
Most big money makes big cowards out of the people who hold it. Soros seems cut from much braver material. Of course, he as also LOST a few billion along the way to becoming a billionaire so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
I watched episode one. Pretty fluffy unless you wanted to watch the first reality TV series about stromatolites [spelling?] and low budget graphics of comet impacts. The music for Sagan's Saga was also much better.
As for political subtexts, I suppose some KKKansans [I can say that? my father and grandfather were born there!] will be uncomfortable that the presentation implies [but does not seem to spell out in so many words] that there is such a thing as evolution. It is much more explicit that the timeline for the process whose end-product is often called "creation" is NOT going to fit withing the biblical 6000 odd years.
Based on how little I expect to learn and how unpoetic the whole thing is, I am skipping the rest of the series.
Whats a sig? A de-"nature"d signature.
having gone under with 4 start-ups between 93 and 2001, I think I have scars entitling me to say Mr Graham has hit a couple of nails on the head a couple of years too late. The ideas that were pesuasive to our VC's were NOT persuasive to the folks we thought were our customers. The net result of a venture is the PRODUCT of the value proposition of the business AS STAFFED AND EXECUTED and the depth of the business concept's grasp of the PERCIEVED NEED for the service or product.
Foolish disclosure: I made money on only one of those starups and that entirely by accident. I wish our VC's and senior management had the long term vision, so absent in those days, that is implied in Graham's article.
who put this sig here?