When I switched to DSL from Dialup in 2000, I haven't switched companies or anything. I've always thought my service to be "acceptable". It occasionally goes out, but I assume that is for maintainence or something.
I've been using SWBell (later known as SBC, now known as SBC Yahoo!) ever since, and had no regrets.
"It wouldn't suprise me at this point if they had a few black projects hidden away in Redmond trying to rewrite the whole thing."
Well, I'm always open if they can make it perform better than my Linux machine. I'd be happy to review the product upon its release. Just don't expect me to pay for it to give it the "review" as I'm quite happy with my free alternative.
"Oh will you all fuck off with your 'MS sucks, Linux is the answer' crap. If I want, I can damn well install just as much spyware on a Linux box, and it will crash as often as I want it to."
You could damn well install spyware on a linux box if you WANTED to. You'd to log in as root and put it in for it to effect the system globally.
The convienent part in Windows is I don't have to want it at all to accidently get on my machine. I don't even to run as admin to get it to install globally for every account.
Thats the one microsoft way.
Anyways, you said you wanted you could get it on linux? Thats strange, can you mention the vendors that provide Linux spyware? I was thinking about trying it out.
Yes, you mention installed by clueless users, but even users who have a clue run in to spyware from time to time due to the activex server. Honestly tell me you've NEVER got a peice spyware. I can vouch that at least 90% or more slashdot users have run in to spyware getting on their machine before.
"So we're supposed to blame MS for Spyware? Windows doesn't ship with system-crashing spyware, and it's not even like viruses are its primary way in. Most spyware is willingly installed by clueless users."
Yeah, and I also happened to purchase a Microsoft brand car. I'm sick of how people keep telling me "well, you bought a broken car, thats your own stupid fault."
I didn't buy a broken car. Microsofts Car came with the axel and the axel had ridges cut in to it which makes it brittle and easy to brake. I went over a speed bump going faster than 3mph and it broke the axel.
It's not Microsofts fault that going over the speed bump broke the Axel. Microsoft doesn't ship the car with a broken axel. Most Microsoft axels are broken when clueless users don't read the manual when it clearly states that they shouldn't pass a speed hump going more than 3mph.
Yes, some things sound ridiculous, like my scenario which is not unlike your comment above.
"contrary to the expectations of various lead engineers at Microsoft, even Internet Explorer will still work under such conditions."
I guess this is proof to all of us of exactly HOW much these Microsoft engineers know. It's on the far end of SAD that these engineers have source code to the entire operating system at their fingertips and yet they are more ignorant than some "hacker."
I can't believe people use this operating system and put themself in Microsofts hands. I, for one, use Debian myself, because I'm confident that the Linux community knows what the code they are working with does. It's no secret to anyone, and anyone who wants a peek can do so without breaking the law (being labeled as a leak)
Wow, digg is a cool site. I never knew there was a worthy alternative to the shitty./ system. Unfortunately,./ is like a monopoly -- they have the people and they always will -- so the won't be going under any time soon.
"The editors don't usually do a whole lot, although they do fix the occasional typo, fix broken links and are known to ammend articles if posts within make it clear the story warrants it."
It's interesting though, because OSTG pays the editors 20-27K a year to be editors for slashdot. I think it's pathetic someone can be paid so well to make mistakes all the time. Dupes, non factual information, misleading headlines.
Shit, these people get paid as much as the editors of Fort Worth star telegram, or Dallas Morning News. The only difference? If you print headlines that are misleading -- you get fired. Not here on slashdot.
God I wish I could land a job like that. I wish I knew the right people.
Why do people bother porting this stuff to oddball platforms anyway. Talent like this could be used elsewhere in the OSS community instead of wasting time porting stuff to platforms like Nitendo DS.
I know people like to make 'media centers' and other stuff with their xbox, but it seems like it's a waste of time from a developer standpoint. People need to work on things to increase the userbase of the community -- not porting Linux and BSD distros to platforms intended for one purpose and one purpose alone (gaming)
That's just my opinion on it, I feel that it's a waste of time.
" ranging from shiny translucent windows to icons that are tiny representations of a document itself"
Sounds like this was directly ripped off of KDE. KDE will show the contents of a text file within the icon itself transposed on top of the "document" icon. This makes it look like your looking at a document with text from inside the file.
Chalk another one up for the Microsoft hall of innovation.
The launch was tense. I watched it on CNN live and you just sat there watching it lift off waiting for something horrible to happen.
Nothing did. I'm one of the people who think that the flight missions are pointless when all we do is go to the space station and have no real objectives (I'm more for the rovers) but watching the successful liftoff was breathtaking.
Why isn't any Linux organization included in the list of people in on the creation. What, is the linux "hackers" going to just sit back and drink beer and worry about converting to the new bios later, like always?
Seriously, Linux should be more proactive in changing the shape of the industry instead of sitting back and struggling to adopt stuff that has been decided without them.
" I've been waiting for a desktop-ready Linux version that you can use out of the box for ten years now. Finally it's there, and it's called Mac OSX!"
Hmm, strange, I used Debian out of the box without any troubles... is there something I am missing here? Are you trolling or are you just taking a cheap shot chance to advocate Mac OS?
A regex search would be excellent! It wouldn't overburden their servers at all.
How many people know how to do regex searches other than computer experts? Since they have entire datacenters with boxes, the hit on their computing wouldn't even be noticable.
I was thinking something like a regex: term, somewhat like site: intitle: etc.
" If more people tried Yahoo! again, they might be pleasantly surprised."
Did they finally clear all that junk off their homepage? What I want is a search engine, nothing more, nothing less. I don't want:
* Autos (Already have a truck) * Chat (Already use teamspeak) * Finance (Already have a bank account) * Games (Already have WINE) * GeoCities (Already have a colocated server) * Groups (I could always hit groups.yahoo.com) * Health (Already have gym membership) * Horoscopes (Waste of time?) * HotJobs (Already have job) * Kids (Don't have kids) * Mail (Already have GMAIL) * Maps (Already use maps.google.com) * Messenger (Already have Y! IM on gaim) * Mobile (Don't need or want a cell) * Movies (If I want a movie I'll look at fandango) * Music (Don't buy music online) * News (Already go to news for nerds, stuff that matters) * People (Don't ened to find ugly people) * Search (AH HA! THIS IS WHAT I WANT!) * Personals (Don't need homely or lonely women) * Photos (Already have a gallery on my website) * Real Estate (Don't need swamp land) * Shopping (Pricegrabber.com does this for me) * Sports (Hate sports) * Travel (I know where I want to go for vacation, lest a website tell me where to go) * TV (I own one, unfortunately) * Yellow Pages (Google has reverse number lookup, and I can find nearly anyone with their search box)
Why do they give me all this USELESS crap on their homepage. What ever happened to a simple small interface like googles where they don't fit everything in the world on their homepage. Thank god they redesigned their layout -- it was even worse before.
Just give TEXT FIELD, and I can type those terms in the field. If I want to buy a car, I don't need to click on "AUTOS" on the homepage, I can type "USED CAR SALES" In the search box. Thats what a search engine should be -- not a table of contents/category listing -- but a SEARCH engine that SEARCHES content!
Google's market share of US searches for June 2005 was at 36.9% compared with 37.5% in May 2005. Yahoo! had a 30.4% share, and MSN had a share of 15.7%. Bear Stearns noted that Google's query volume rose 36% YTY versus a 28% increase for the industry, outpacing Yahoo!'s 32% increase but trailing MSN's 42% increase. Month-to-month, Google's query volume declined 6%, which compares with a 4% decline for Yahoo!, a 1% decline for MSN, a 4% decline for AOL, and a 7% decline for Ask Jeeves. In Q2 2005 unique searchers versus Q2 2004 increased 31% for Google, 21% for Yahoo, and 14% for the industry, while the number of searches in Q2 2005 increased 38% for Google, 42% for Yahoo, and 31% for the industry.
"Microsoft's General Manager of Platform Strategy, Michael Taylor, continues Microsoft's press blitz against Open Source in general and Linux in particular in a CNET Interview. He says of Linux: 'You can build it, design it, and it will work great. The trouble begins when you want to add things to it...(due to) the brittle nature of the platform, when you do that, other things break.'"
I think this is complete B.S.! The words 'pot', 'kettle' and 'black' come to mind. Is Microsoft unaware that their registry is far more 'brittle'?
Also, "when you want to add things, it breaks due to the brittle nature"
At least I can add things to my operating system. Try to extend the functionality of the NT kernel. You can't? What? NT doesn't support kernel modules?
In Linux all I have to do to install a kernel module is insmod and the module installs for me. It only breaks if you have a poorly made module. Microsoft will surely win this arguement, because kernel modules won't break in Windows. Why? Because their kernel doesn't have this feature of adding functionality to the kernel. Just look who's talking here!
This should be compared to if I owned a car company called JUNK. I aired a commercial stating how Ford Motor Co.'s cars are unreliable and poorly designed, because the breaks will eventually wear out. Now look at my cars, which completley lack breaks at all. Sure, I have no breaks that can fail in my cars -- but then again, all my customers seem to have crashed in every car they've purchased from me.
The moral of the story is that you can't trust Microsoft saying "This operating systems feature is brittle, and may break" when they don't even have such a feature in their own operating system that can compete nor compare to the functionality!
"It is a very good idea because it ensures physical seperation between the different services and greatly reduces the potential of compromise of one service spreading to other services."
Yeah, and you'll need all the help you can get when reducing the potential compromise of a Windows machine you can get!
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When I switched to DSL from Dialup in 2000, I haven't switched companies or anything. I've always thought my service to be "acceptable". It occasionally goes out, but I assume that is for maintainence or something.
I've been using SWBell (later known as SBC, now known as SBC Yahoo!) ever since, and had no regrets.
"It wouldn't suprise me at this point if they had a few black projects hidden away in Redmond trying to rewrite the whole thing."
Well, I'm always open if they can make it perform better than my Linux machine. I'd be happy to review the product upon its release. Just don't expect me to pay for it to give it the "review" as I'm quite happy with my free alternative.
"Oh will you all fuck off with your 'MS sucks, Linux is the answer' crap. If I want, I can damn well install just as much spyware on a Linux box, and it will crash as often as I want it to."
You could damn well install spyware on a linux box if you WANTED to. You'd to log in as root and put it in for it to effect the system globally.
The convienent part in Windows is I don't have to want it at all to accidently get on my machine. I don't even to run as admin to get it to install globally for every account.
Thats the one microsoft way.
Anyways, you said you wanted you could get it on linux? Thats strange, can you mention the vendors that provide Linux spyware? I was thinking about trying it out.
Yes, you mention installed by clueless users, but even users who have a clue run in to spyware from time to time due to the activex server. Honestly tell me you've NEVER got a peice spyware. I can vouch that at least 90% or more slashdot users have run in to spyware getting on their machine before.
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PCMANJON
"So we're supposed to blame MS for Spyware? Windows doesn't ship with system-crashing spyware, and it's not even like viruses are its primary way in. Most spyware is willingly installed by clueless users."
Yeah, and I also happened to purchase a Microsoft brand car. I'm sick of how people keep telling me "well, you bought a broken car, thats your own stupid fault."
I didn't buy a broken car. Microsofts Car came with the axel and the axel had ridges cut in to it which makes it brittle and easy to brake. I went over a speed bump going faster than 3mph and it broke the axel.
It's not Microsofts fault that going over the speed bump broke the Axel. Microsoft doesn't ship the car with a broken axel. Most Microsoft axels are broken when clueless users don't read the manual when it clearly states that they shouldn't pass a speed hump going more than 3mph.
Yes, some things sound ridiculous, like my scenario which is not unlike your comment above.
"contrary to the expectations of various lead engineers at Microsoft, even Internet Explorer will still work under such conditions."
I guess this is proof to all of us of exactly HOW much these Microsoft engineers know. It's on the far end of SAD that these engineers have source code to the entire operating system at their fingertips and yet they are more ignorant than some "hacker."
I can't believe people use this operating system and put themself in Microsofts hands. I, for one, use Debian myself, because I'm confident that the Linux community knows what the code they are working with does. It's no secret to anyone, and anyone who wants a peek can do so without breaking the law (being labeled as a leak)
Wow, digg is a cool site. I never knew there was a worthy alternative to the shitty ./ system. Unfortunately, ./ is like a monopoly -- they have the people and they always will -- so the won't be going under any time soon.
Thanks again.
"The editors don't usually do a whole lot, although they do fix the occasional typo, fix broken links and are known to ammend articles if posts within make it clear the story warrants it."
It's interesting though, because OSTG pays the editors 20-27K a year to be editors for slashdot. I think it's pathetic someone can be paid so well to make mistakes all the time. Dupes, non factual information, misleading headlines.
Shit, these people get paid as much as the editors of Fort Worth star telegram, or Dallas Morning News. The only difference? If you print headlines that are misleading -- you get fired. Not here on slashdot.
God I wish I could land a job like that. I wish I knew the right people.
Why do people bother porting this stuff to oddball platforms anyway. Talent like this could be used elsewhere in the OSS community instead of wasting time porting stuff to platforms like Nitendo DS.
I know people like to make 'media centers' and other stuff with their xbox, but it seems like it's a waste of time from a developer standpoint. People need to work on things to increase the userbase of the community -- not porting Linux and BSD distros to platforms intended for one purpose and one purpose alone (gaming)
That's just my opinion on it, I feel that it's a waste of time.
" ranging from shiny translucent windows to icons that are tiny representations of a document itself"
Sounds like this was directly ripped off of KDE. KDE will show the contents of a text file within the icon itself transposed on top of the "document" icon. This makes it look like your looking at a document with text from inside the file.
Chalk another one up for the Microsoft hall of innovation.
My favorite nerdcore rapper is MC Frontalot. (http://www.frontalot.com/)
w _lasers.mp3
He raps about 419 scams, starwars, and other hillarious stuff. I really wish I could go to one of his concerts in NY. He has them occasionally.
Here's the "yellow lasers" sound about starwars fans with a eh, kinky ending Listen to it here: http://www.frontalot.com/mp3/mc_frontalot_-_yello
"Tried to watch it launch live via space.com but was getting about 8b/s on the live feed. Works great now that it doesn't fucking matter."
Thaelon -- that's what Television was made for. It was on FOX, CNN, NASA Channel (Cable only), The Science Channel, and a couple of others.
Why settle for the horrible internet when you directly knew millions would be hitting the stream server? The server runs 2003 Server to boot.
"Darned Dallas newspaper printed the 10:39 time as though it were local, so I missed it. "
Yeah, I noticed that too. The Fort Worth star telegram was better though and had the correct information.
I watched CNN rather than FOX (The 'Everyones Favorite President" Bush Network) Watching it take off gave you goosebumps.
The launch was tense. I watched it on CNN live and you just sat there watching it lift off waiting for something horrible to happen.
Nothing did. I'm one of the people who think that the flight missions are pointless when all we do is go to the space station and have no real objectives (I'm more for the rovers) but watching the successful liftoff was breathtaking.
Good job for NASA.
Why isn't any Linux organization included in the list of people in on the creation. What, is the linux "hackers" going to just sit back and drink beer and worry about converting to the new bios later, like always?
Seriously, Linux should be more proactive in changing the shape of the industry instead of sitting back and struggling to adopt stuff that has been decided without them.
-- A debian/slackware user
Well this tech will never catch on if they can't make it affordable. Then again, it won't ever catch on if it is affordable but not worth the price.
15,000 for a 500gb solid state drive isn't affordable
100 for a 4gb solid state drive is affordable, but not worth the price.
What they need to do is make the tech better, yet affordable. What makes it so expensive to competetivly price large solid state storage devices?
On a sidenote, is anyone going to buy this drive that is 4gb and costs 100 bucks? I don't think it's much use to anyone.
"Also could be used to collect correction data (i.e directed down one way street."
Whoa, does google maps really point users down one way streets? I've seen it avoid one way streets here in Fort Worth, TX.
" I've been waiting for a desktop-ready Linux version that you can use out of the box for ten years now. Finally it's there, and it's called Mac OSX!"
Hmm, strange, I used Debian out of the box without any troubles... is there something I am missing here? Are you trolling or are you just taking a cheap shot chance to advocate Mac OS?
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security -- Benjamin Franklin
A regex search would be excellent! It wouldn't overburden their servers at all.
How many people know how to do regex searches other than computer experts? Since they have entire datacenters with boxes, the hit on their computing wouldn't even be noticable.
I was thinking something like a regex: term, somewhat like site: intitle: etc.
"You mean like search.yahoo.com?"
Why can't they make that their homepage?
Anyways, never knew about that. Thanks.
" If more people tried Yahoo! again, they might be pleasantly surprised."
Did they finally clear all that junk off their homepage? What I want is a search engine, nothing more, nothing less. I don't want:
* Autos (Already have a truck)
* Chat (Already use teamspeak)
* Finance (Already have a bank account)
* Games (Already have WINE)
* GeoCities (Already have a colocated server)
* Groups (I could always hit groups.yahoo.com)
* Health (Already have gym membership)
* Horoscopes (Waste of time?)
* HotJobs (Already have job)
* Kids (Don't have kids)
* Mail (Already have GMAIL)
* Maps (Already use maps.google.com)
* Messenger (Already have Y! IM on gaim)
* Mobile (Don't need or want a cell)
* Movies (If I want a movie I'll look at fandango) * Music (Don't buy music online)
* News (Already go to news for nerds, stuff that matters)
* People (Don't ened to find ugly people)
* Search (AH HA! THIS IS WHAT I WANT!)
* Personals (Don't need homely or lonely women)
* Photos (Already have a gallery on my website)
* Real Estate (Don't need swamp land)
* Shopping (Pricegrabber.com does this for me)
* Sports (Hate sports)
* Travel (I know where I want to go for vacation, lest a website tell me where to go)
* TV (I own one, unfortunately)
* Yellow Pages (Google has reverse number lookup, and I can find nearly anyone with their search box)
Why do they give me all this USELESS crap on their homepage. What ever happened to a simple small interface like googles where they don't fit everything in the world on their homepage. Thank god they redesigned their layout -- it was even worse before.
Just give TEXT FIELD, and I can type those terms in the field. If I want to buy a car, I don't need to click on "AUTOS" on the homepage, I can type "USED CAR SALES" In the search box. Thats what a search engine should be -- not a table of contents/category listing -- but a SEARCH engine that SEARCHES content!
The numbers -- for those interested.
Google's market share of US searches for June 2005 was at 36.9% compared with 37.5% in May 2005. Yahoo! had a 30.4% share, and MSN had a share of 15.7%. Bear Stearns noted that Google's query volume rose 36% YTY versus a 28% increase for the industry, outpacing Yahoo!'s 32% increase but trailing MSN's 42% increase. Month-to-month, Google's query volume declined 6%, which compares with a 4% decline for Yahoo!, a 1% decline for MSN, a 4% decline for AOL, and a 7% decline for Ask Jeeves. In Q2 2005 unique searchers versus Q2 2004 increased 31% for Google, 21% for Yahoo, and 14% for the industry, while the number of searches in Q2 2005 increased 38% for Google, 42% for Yahoo, and 31% for the industry.
Well if the amount of searches google is getting is going down -- you have to account for where they are going.
Are the lost searches going to elsewhere to altavista, ask jeeves, dogpile?
How can you conduct research if you can't account for where the "lost searches" have gone to? How can they tell it's not an error in their study?
"Microsoft's General Manager of Platform Strategy, Michael Taylor, continues Microsoft's press blitz against Open Source in general and Linux in particular in a CNET Interview. He says of Linux: 'You can build it, design it, and it will work great. The trouble begins when you want to add things to it...(due to) the brittle nature of the platform, when you do that, other things break.'"
I think this is complete B.S.! The words 'pot', 'kettle' and 'black' come to mind. Is Microsoft unaware that their registry is far more 'brittle'?
Also, "when you want to add things, it breaks due to the brittle nature"
At least I can add things to my operating system. Try to extend the functionality of the NT kernel. You can't? What? NT doesn't support kernel modules?
In Linux all I have to do to install a kernel module is insmod and the module installs for me. It only breaks if you have a poorly made module. Microsoft will surely win this arguement, because kernel modules won't break in Windows. Why? Because their kernel doesn't have this feature of adding functionality to the kernel. Just look who's talking here!
This should be compared to if I owned a car company called JUNK. I aired a commercial stating how Ford Motor Co.'s cars are unreliable and poorly designed, because the breaks will eventually wear out. Now look at my cars, which completley lack breaks at all. Sure, I have no breaks that can fail in my cars -- but then again, all my customers seem to have crashed in every car they've purchased from me.
The moral of the story is that you can't trust Microsoft saying "This operating systems feature is brittle, and may break" when they don't even have such a feature in their own operating system that can compete nor compare to the functionality!
"It is a very good idea because it ensures physical seperation between the different services and greatly reduces the potential of compromise of one service spreading to other services."
Yeah, and you'll need all the help you can get when reducing the potential compromise of a Windows machine you can get!
So I vote it's a good idea too.