Dude I think that is a known software bug, have you searched on XDA for your specific issue? I recall having a similar issue with battery life on my S3 and there was some kind of hack to fix it. Something to do with the 3g radio cycling between H+ and H and 3g radio....I forget, its been a while since I fixed it...
I've been waiting for the video game industry to collapse for a while now.
When companies introduce anti-consumer, anti-capitalist policies (such as you dont own the game you just bought) then I welcome their bankruptcy with arms wide open.
Besides, I am all grown up now, and I stare at a glowing rectangle for 8 hours a day. Last thing I want to do when i get home is play video games. And I say that being raised by the Nintendo Entertainment System when I was a kid...
Now, my gaming habit has evolved into board games. There is a wealth of really cool board games out there, you OWN the games you buy, you can RESELL them if you desire, and (to me) they are just as fun as video games.
And how does the webpage call your C/C++ and OpenGL library? How does your C/C++ and OpenGL library paint inside of the window? And how does your library run on BROWSERS on all 3 platforms?
That's the attitude I encountered on the rpi forums when I posted my results. Run from the command line instead of inside X?.....bwahahaha! Its like you are reminding me to breathe....anything else captain obvious?
Can you see a plane at 33,000 feet from the ground? Not the vapor trails it leaves, but the plane itself? 33,000 feet is a lot less than 17 miles. Yeah....
Indeed and since when did it matter what Microsoft does on./ ? Stuff on./ seems to get less and less "nerd" (figuring out how stuff works / hack together solutions) and more and more "geek" (the "tech hipster" buying the latest stuff, preferably before it is cool).
you know i read your post and initially agreed with it. but then i read the rest of this thread with a few hundred comments bickering about bits, bytes, SI units, kibi, gigi, and shamalamadingdong, and here we are: the slashdot of yore has returned in this thread!
That is an android library that has no API exposed. I'm sure google is working hard on getting us there, but currently its not yet done. The arndale CL driver that will come first is the vanilla linux version.
To answer your question, I am not sure. I don't know if any mobile SoC has I/O fast enough to feed the 4 PCIe lanes needed for thunderbolt. It would be cool if there was, but honestly id rather use a desktop GPU over thunderbolt for CL work...
Sorry for being a jerk, was having a really bad day. Thanks for the mali CL sdk link, I am downloading it now.
Currently the only developer board I am aware of with an OpenCL compatible Mali GPU is the Arndale board. Drivers for this board would have to come from Insignal, but I am not sure what the current status of this support is. The demos themselves will run on desktop however, if you modify the platform.mk in the root directory to use gcc rather than a cross compiler. Provided the necessary libraries are installed on the host machine, the demos will run. The Nexus 10 tablet also contains an OpenCL compatible Mali GPU, however the Android SDK does not currently expose this functionality.
ARM having drivers doesn't do anything for me as a developer if I cannot use said drivers. If you actually read the link you posted you would learn that the CL driver you speak of is NOT AVAILABLE.
That's wonderful that a driver exists in a lab somewhere, I'm very happy for you. But they've had that for years now. Those drivers are STILL not in the market. I would love to be wrong as I have the cash to make a purchase.
But no mobile device out there has a working CL driver that developers like myself can use. Not even the arndale board (which uses T604) has a working driver.
Getting Samsung or some other ARM licensee to then put the T604 (or any other mobile GPU for that matter) into a thunderbolt interface is a fool's errand. Its a nice idea, but it gives the impression of you not being down in the trenches doing mobile GPU work.
Go ahead and post some links of products that are available to purchase that have a ImgTech or Mali or Tegra or Adreno GPU that supports OpenCL and has drivers available. Android or vanilla linux, doesn't matter. I dare you to find one.
Oh thanks for that insightful post, I had no idea that multicore CPUs existed and we can do GPGPU with CUDA and CL!
Attention dumbass: I was referring to the lack of CL drivers for mobile GPUs. The Mali T604 does not yet have a CL driver. There are no consumer available mobile GPUs that ship with CL drivers.
And then on top of that, the OP wanted a CL device based on the T604 to be driven over Thunderbolt. LOL! Like I said, I will get back to you in 10 years when that shit is actually available for purchase.
King of Parking Lot Castle III: When I first came here, this was all parking lot. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a parking lot, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the parking lot. So I built a second one. That sank into the parking lot. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the parking lot. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.
4 friends begin a game of munchkin. An hour later they are mortal enemies with knifes at each others throats. They guests had to be forcefully removed from the host's apartment.
I am ever so close to abandoning video games as a hobby because of shit like this.
I've got a nice collection of board games and they are so much fun to play with a group of friends over some drinks and pizza. When I contrast that experience with the racist, homophobic insults I may encounter on XBOX live and other crap like this DRM, its getting harder and harder to justify that $60 video game.
As a programmer by day for a long time now, there is NO functional need for always online DRM for most game types. It benefits me, the consumer,(cough) I mean CITIZEN, in no way whatsoever. They know it, I know it, and yet they want me to buy the shit they are shoveling at me.
With these types of citizen abuse occurring in the gaming industry I hope it tanks. Not that I want to see people lose their jobs, but I want the business model to change.
The future, in my humble opinion, lies with the indie market. Look at games like FTL and Hotline Miami. Available to purchase without DRM, probably pirated to hell and back, and yet those small 1-2 man teams are each now probably millionaires. And they deserve it. Does EA deserve even a single penny for their anti-citizen activities? One of the tenets of capitalism is ownership of private property. With each new AAA game released, I own less and less of it. Fuck you EA, you are anti-capitalist and you are part of the reason why citizen rights are eroding.
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Dude I think that is a known software bug, have you searched on XDA for your specific issue? I recall having a similar issue with battery life on my S3 and there was some kind of hack to fix it. Something to do with the 3g radio cycling between H+ and H and 3g radio....I forget, its been a while since I fixed it...
xeon phi, the bastard child of larrabee? lol....
Its too specific a piece of hardware, the code isnt portable to ANYTHING. stick to gpgpu with OpenCL....
I've been waiting for the video game industry to collapse for a while now.
When companies introduce anti-consumer, anti-capitalist policies (such as you dont own the game you just bought) then I welcome their bankruptcy with arms wide open.
Besides, I am all grown up now, and I stare at a glowing rectangle for 8 hours a day. Last thing I want to do when i get home is play video games. And I say that being raised by the Nintendo Entertainment System when I was a kid...
Now, my gaming habit has evolved into board games. There is a wealth of really cool board games out there, you OWN the games you buy, you can RESELL them if you desire, and (to me) they are just as fun as video games.
You sir, deserve the Nobel prize for you innovative combination of moving people and stoning people simultaneously!
And how does the webpage call your C/C++ and OpenGL library? How does your C/C++ and OpenGL library paint inside of the window? And how does your library run on BROWSERS on all 3 platforms?
That's because they retreated from their own suicide.
That's the attitude I encountered on the rpi forums when I posted my results. Run from the command line instead of inside X?.....bwahahaha! Its like you are reminding me to breathe....anything else captain obvious?
No, the FPS is a serious problem.
We've had skybox/skydome in games for years now.
Can you see a plane at 33,000 feet from the ground? Not the vapor trails it leaves, but the plane itself? 33,000 feet is a lot less than 17 miles. Yeah....
It certainly won't run quake3 at 60fps (which is pretty much needed for multiplayer).
I even hacked the ioquake source to have it run at 320x240, and it still ran around15-20fps.
ioquake3 on the pi is CPU limited, not GPU limited. Probably has to do with the md3 animation system.
Indeed and since when did it matter what Microsoft does on ./ ? Stuff on ./ seems to get less and less "nerd" (figuring out how stuff works / hack together solutions) and more and more "geek" (the "tech hipster" buying the latest stuff, preferably before it is cool).
you know i read your post and initially agreed with it. but then i read the rest of this thread with a few hundred comments bickering about bits, bytes, SI units, kibi, gigi, and shamalamadingdong, and here we are: the slashdot of yore has returned in this thread!
That....that was awesome.
Listen here my friend, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
That is an android library that has no API exposed. I'm sure google is working hard on getting us there, but currently its not yet done. The arndale CL driver that will come first is the vanilla linux version.
To answer your question, I am not sure. I don't know if any mobile SoC has I/O fast enough to feed the 4 PCIe lanes needed for thunderbolt. It would be cool if there was, but honestly id rather use a desktop GPU over thunderbolt for CL work...
Sorry for being a jerk, was having a really bad day. Thanks for the mali CL sdk link, I am downloading it now.
Posted Today, 11:40 AM
Hi JimV
Currently the only developer board I am aware of with an OpenCL compatible Mali GPU is the Arndale board. Drivers for this board would have to come from Insignal, but I am not sure what the current status of this support is. The demos themselves will run on desktop however, if you modify the platform.mk in the root directory to use gcc rather than a cross compiler. Provided the necessary libraries are installed on the host machine, the demos will run. The Nexus 10 tablet also contains an OpenCL compatible Mali GPU, however the Android SDK does not currently expose this functionality.
Thanks,
Chris
http://forums.arm.com/index.php?/topic/16523-any-way-to-actually-use-the-mali-opencl-sdk-boards-with-drivers/
In other words, you're still not running CL on mobile devices yet. Have a nice day, and herp a fucking derp.
If you actually give a shit and aren't just trolling me, then the arndaleboard.org forums will demonstrate that the driver is not yet available.
ARM having drivers doesn't do anything for me as a developer if I cannot use said drivers. If you actually read the link you posted you would learn that the CL driver you speak of is NOT AVAILABLE.
That's wonderful that a driver exists in a lab somewhere, I'm very happy for you. But they've had that for years now. Those drivers are STILL not in the market. I would love to be wrong as I have the cash to make a purchase.
But no mobile device out there has a working CL driver that developers like myself can use. Not even the arndale board (which uses T604) has a working driver.
Getting Samsung or some other ARM licensee to then put the T604 (or any other mobile GPU for that matter) into a thunderbolt interface is a fool's errand. Its a nice idea, but it gives the impression of you not being down in the trenches doing mobile GPU work.
Go ahead and post some links of products that are available to purchase that have a ImgTech or Mali or Tegra or Adreno GPU that supports OpenCL and has drivers available. Android or vanilla linux, doesn't matter. I dare you to find one.
Oh thanks for that insightful post, I had no idea that multicore CPUs existed and we can do GPGPU with CUDA and CL!
Attention dumbass: I was referring to the lack of CL drivers for mobile GPUs. The Mali T604 does not yet have a CL driver. There are no consumer available mobile GPUs that ship with CL drivers.
And then on top of that, the OP wanted a CL device based on the T604 to be driven over Thunderbolt. LOL! Like I said, I will get back to you in 10 years when that shit is actually available for purchase.
Sure, I will have your answer ready next fucking century when that type of hardware is available.
That's funny, I read the title as "OnLive's Epic Plan For a New Way To Screw Its Employees"
King of Parking Lot Castle III: When I first came here, this was all parking lot. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a parking lot, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the parking lot. So I built a second one. That sank into the parking lot. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the parking lot. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.
No, you have referenced a DIFFERENT joke.
YOU are the brogrammer, and you have made Ritchie turn in his grave. You should stick to javascript.
4 friends begin a game of munchkin. An hour later they are mortal enemies with knifes at each others throats. They guests had to be forcefully removed from the host's apartment.
I am ever so close to abandoning video games as a hobby because of shit like this.
I've got a nice collection of board games and they are so much fun to play with a group of friends over some drinks and pizza. When I contrast that experience with the racist, homophobic insults I may encounter on XBOX live and other crap like this DRM, its getting harder and harder to justify that $60 video game.
As a programmer by day for a long time now, there is NO functional need for always online DRM for most game types. It benefits me, the consumer,(cough) I mean CITIZEN, in no way whatsoever. They know it, I know it, and yet they want me to buy the shit they are shoveling at me.
With these types of citizen abuse occurring in the gaming industry I hope it tanks. Not that I want to see people lose their jobs, but I want the business model to change.
The future, in my humble opinion, lies with the indie market. Look at games like FTL and Hotline Miami. Available to purchase without DRM, probably pirated to hell and back, and yet those small 1-2 man teams are each now probably millionaires. And they deserve it. Does EA deserve even a single penny for their anti-citizen activities? One of the tenets of capitalism is ownership of private property. With each new AAA game released, I own less and less of it. Fuck you EA, you are anti-capitalist and you are part of the reason why citizen rights are eroding.