Nor does it change the stupidity of blaming one party when it obviously was passed with massive support from both parties. Congratulations on completely missing the point.
This was done fifty years ago. Then again, I seriously doubt this kind of thing has anything to do with an actual space program and more a flimsy facade for a rocket test.
It's actually $9.92 an hour in SF. I have rarely seen a retail job pay $14+ for a part time worker. Apparently Apple isn't having a problem keeping the stores staffed with people who keep themselves clean. Full time employees at Apple Stores get medical benefits from day 1 and help with schooling, so that's covered. And what the hell are you smoking with that 75% number? Do you really think Apple's margins are friggin' 75%??? No, Apple's margins tend to be 25-30%, which is about what the employee discount is. This isn't a damned toy store. These are computers we're talking about.
As for people lining up, you tell me. Apple gets tons of people who want to work for them and has no problems filling interviews.
Point out where I slammed unions, assclown. I didn't. You only assumed I did because that makes it so much easier for you to ignore what is said. I said this guy is a twit for trying to unionize when he's getting paid better than most in his field. Sometimes unions are necessary. Sometimes they aren't. This is the latter case. Furthermore, that is a good reason, because unskilled labor tends to be harder to unionize than skilled labor. When you're just one of thousands in the area that could easily do the job, you can't expect a ton of money. Supply and demand applies to labor too, you know. You can say it's awful and wrong, but that's how it is.
No, unions are for banding together when the company starts treating them like shit. Unions aren't inherently bad or good. It depends on the situation, and there are times when unions are good and necessary because the corporate assclowns are fucking them, and times when they become even bigger and greedier assholes than the corporations they screw. This really isn't the former situation. How can you expect a ton of money when you're not a highly skilled worker and there are tons of people that could do your job? It's called supply and demand. It applies to labor as well as goods and services. If you're working a job that does not take a good degree of skill then you can't really expect high wages. Why should Apple pay them a bunch when there's a huge labor pool of people who would be happy to work for them? Yes, it would be nice if Apple did that. I'm not saying that they shouldn't. I'm saying that there's not a great deal of business incentive to do it. Apple is a business.
And Apple can be selective, but even then, they have a ton of resumes for qualified employees sitting around and more coming in every day.
Ah, gotta love the massive leap to conclusions and people kneejerking this shit. Retail employees are not highly skilled labor. They are not worth tons of money. There is a large pool of potential employees. You cannot expect awesome wages and awesome benefits in that situation, period. You can call it disdain. I call it fucking reality. You want to get paid a lot? Work a job where you're worth a lot to the employer. You can cry all you want about the big bad men at the top, but that's how it is. Supply and demand applies to labor. That's how it is. Furthermore, when these people are making better wages and getting better benefits than most in similar jobs, you can hardly say that they're getting pissed on. But go ahead, keep assigning your own meaning to what I write if that helps you continue your idiotic ranting.
Yeah, you didn't read a damned thing I wrote, did you? Better benefits and wages than darn near any other retail job! Oh, the slavery! What did you say about kneejerking again, assclown?
Foxconn employees work for Apple? Really? That's news to me. Also, do you really think that Foxconn doesn't make components for tons of other companies around the world? Do you somehow think that US labor laws are applicable to Chinese citizens? Way to draw a completely bogus parallel.
I think that people shouldn't whine about how their situation should be better when they're at the top end of the pay/benefits scale compared to others working in the same field. This is retail sales and service, for crying out loud.
Come back when other massive corporations pay their unskilled labor what Apple does and offers them the same benefits. I'll tell them because Apple is pretty damned nice when compared to other jobs with the same sort of skillset.
Also, please point out where I said unions are a bad idea. They aren't necessarily, but when you unionize, it's probably best to do so in a job that isn't right around the top of your respective field in terms of pay and benefits. There are people making less and working crappier jobs doing much the same thing. You also have to realize that this is a retail storefront job. Potential employees are in abundant supply. The principles of supply and demand are applicable to labor as well as goods and services. When you can easily be replaced by someone else, don't complain too much that you're not getting paid a ton of money.
It does comparatively. We're looking at what is relatively unskilled labor. When you can train almost anyone to do the job then the job usually doesn't pay well. That's the reality of it.
Dude, that's complete bullshit. The majority of Apple Store employees are part time and don't get any benefits (except for cheap benefits like commuter checks.) Part timers start at ~$12 an hour.
Apple Store has a reputation for firing people at the drop of a hat. There's simply no value for them in retaining employees in the long run simply BECAUSE their employees are easily replaceable and the cost of retention is higher than the cost of training.
And who expects awesome pay and benefits at part time? I should've clarified that I was talking about full-time, granted, but the point still stands. What the hell do you expect as a part-time employee? Awesome pay and a benefits package? Gimme a break. Once again, look around the rest of the industry and you'll probably be able to count the number of retail business that do so one one, maybe two hands. And I've never heard of Apple Stores firing people at the drop of a hat. Ever. Either someone screwed up or, surprise surprise, the manager of the store did it, not Apple corporate.
But yes, Apple Store employees are expendable. They're not working a highly skilled job. There are people lined up around the damned block who want an Apple Store job. Considering that, I'd say Apple treats them better than most.
I think this asshat needs to take a long, hard look at the rest of the industry. He's working a retail storefront job. He's getting paid $14/hr when hardly any other retail job is going to pay like that, and Apple happens to offer very good benefits. Medical starts from day 1 for full-time employees, at least. Want to go to school? Apple will help you do it! The employee discounts aren't bad at all, either, usually 25% off.
Seriously, for a retail/tech grunt job, Apple treats their employees better than most. Just talk to anyone who has worked at Best Buy. I'd expect to see a lot more jobs unionizing before Apple Store employees do it. What the hell?
The 30-year-old employee...
Ah, there we go. 30 years old and working a retail job. Way to go, pal. You know what? YOU ARE EXPENDABLE. You're not skilled labor. There are people lined up to work at Apple Stores who could do your job. Supply and demand applies to labor as well as products, you know. Apple is treating you well as it is. It's not their fault you wound up in a retail storefront at the age of 30. I don't think anyone should expect to make a career there unless they move up the ladder (at least to management of some sort), at which point you'll get better pay and benefits anyway. What a fucking joke.
Look into what Apple Store employees get paid. Look into their benefits. Then look at the rest of the retail industry and see what they get paid. Then shut the hell up because Apple actually treats their employees better than most.
THIS. The assclown calling for a union needs to take a long look at the rest of the retail industry, and then realize that his pay and benefits are FAR better than he'll find almost anywhere else. For a full-time Apple employee, medical benefits start at day 1. Geniuses start at $16/hr, usually higher. You think you'll find that anywhere else in this industry? I'd expect to see Best Buy monkeys unionize before Apple Store employees. Sorry, but there are FAR worse jobs than the Apple Store, pal.
Look into what Apple Store employees make and what their benefits are. Then compare that to any other tech shop or retail storefront. Then realize that this guy is a stupid son of a bitch for griping that some of the best pay and benefits he's going to find in this sort of position are already his.
I know some Apple Store employees. They are all happy with their wages and benefits. Medical benefits at an Apple Store start from day 1. They tend to start at above $16 an hour. What other goddamned salesman, tech, or other retail monkey gets paid that kind of money? Sorry, but this asshat doesn't seem to know that he's not in some high-demand job. There are people who would line up for a shot at an Apple Store job and be happy with it.
"Dozens" of reports doesn't mean that much. It could have easily been a phishing attack or someone getting ahold of a different online account from said user and they happened to use the same password.
Someone getting access to your account is NOT necessarily a "breach".
The Mac App Store is available as a free software update for Mac computers running Mac OS X v10.6 or later. If you have an earlier version of Mac OS X, you will need to upgrade to Mac OS X Snow Leopard.
So no, you can't install the App Store in Leopard.
O RLY? Name one other cloud-based service with anything remotely CLOSE to the level of integration that iCloud has, and then show me one that doesn't cost anything.
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Nor does it change the stupidity of blaming one party when it obviously was passed with massive support from both parties. Congratulations on completely missing the point.
This was done fifty years ago. Then again, I seriously doubt this kind of thing has anything to do with an actual space program and more a flimsy facade for a rocket test.
It's actually $9.92 an hour in SF. I have rarely seen a retail job pay $14+ for a part time worker. Apparently Apple isn't having a problem keeping the stores staffed with people who keep themselves clean. Full time employees at Apple Stores get medical benefits from day 1 and help with schooling, so that's covered. And what the hell are you smoking with that 75% number? Do you really think Apple's margins are friggin' 75%??? No, Apple's margins tend to be 25-30%, which is about what the employee discount is. This isn't a damned toy store. These are computers we're talking about.
As for people lining up, you tell me. Apple gets tons of people who want to work for them and has no problems filling interviews.
Point out where I slammed unions, assclown. I didn't. You only assumed I did because that makes it so much easier for you to ignore what is said. I said this guy is a twit for trying to unionize when he's getting paid better than most in his field. Sometimes unions are necessary. Sometimes they aren't. This is the latter case. Furthermore, that is a good reason, because unskilled labor tends to be harder to unionize than skilled labor. When you're just one of thousands in the area that could easily do the job, you can't expect a ton of money. Supply and demand applies to labor too, you know. You can say it's awful and wrong, but that's how it is.
No, unions are for banding together when the company starts treating them like shit. Unions aren't inherently bad or good. It depends on the situation, and there are times when unions are good and necessary because the corporate assclowns are fucking them, and times when they become even bigger and greedier assholes than the corporations they screw. This really isn't the former situation. How can you expect a ton of money when you're not a highly skilled worker and there are tons of people that could do your job? It's called supply and demand. It applies to labor as well as goods and services. If you're working a job that does not take a good degree of skill then you can't really expect high wages. Why should Apple pay them a bunch when there's a huge labor pool of people who would be happy to work for them? Yes, it would be nice if Apple did that. I'm not saying that they shouldn't. I'm saying that there's not a great deal of business incentive to do it. Apple is a business.
And Apple can be selective, but even then, they have a ton of resumes for qualified employees sitting around and more coming in every day.
Ah, gotta love the massive leap to conclusions and people kneejerking this shit. Retail employees are not highly skilled labor. They are not worth tons of money. There is a large pool of potential employees. You cannot expect awesome wages and awesome benefits in that situation, period. You can call it disdain. I call it fucking reality. You want to get paid a lot? Work a job where you're worth a lot to the employer. You can cry all you want about the big bad men at the top, but that's how it is. Supply and demand applies to labor. That's how it is. Furthermore, when these people are making better wages and getting better benefits than most in similar jobs, you can hardly say that they're getting pissed on. But go ahead, keep assigning your own meaning to what I write if that helps you continue your idiotic ranting.
Yeah, you didn't read a damned thing I wrote, did you? Better benefits and wages than darn near any other retail job! Oh, the slavery! What did you say about kneejerking again, assclown?
A lot of Geniuses know virtually nothing about Macs when they're hired. They get sent to a two-week training seminar and then into the job they go.
Spoken like a true AC. Not arguing any points, just being a jagoff.
Foxconn employees work for Apple? Really? That's news to me. Also, do you really think that Foxconn doesn't make components for tons of other companies around the world? Do you somehow think that US labor laws are applicable to Chinese citizens? Way to draw a completely bogus parallel.
I think that people shouldn't whine about how their situation should be better when they're at the top end of the pay/benefits scale compared to others working in the same field. This is retail sales and service, for crying out loud.
Come back when other massive corporations pay their unskilled labor what Apple does and offers them the same benefits. I'll tell them because Apple is pretty damned nice when compared to other jobs with the same sort of skillset.
Also, please point out where I said unions are a bad idea. They aren't necessarily, but when you unionize, it's probably best to do so in a job that isn't right around the top of your respective field in terms of pay and benefits. There are people making less and working crappier jobs doing much the same thing. You also have to realize that this is a retail storefront job. Potential employees are in abundant supply. The principles of supply and demand are applicable to labor as well as goods and services. When you can easily be replaced by someone else, don't complain too much that you're not getting paid a ton of money.
It does comparatively. We're looking at what is relatively unskilled labor. When you can train almost anyone to do the job then the job usually doesn't pay well. That's the reality of it.
Dude, that's complete bullshit. The majority of Apple Store employees are part time and don't get any benefits (except for cheap benefits like commuter checks.) Part timers start at ~$12 an hour.
Apple Store has a reputation for firing people at the drop of a hat. There's simply no value for them in retaining employees in the long run simply BECAUSE their employees are easily replaceable and the cost of retention is higher than the cost of training.
And who expects awesome pay and benefits at part time? I should've clarified that I was talking about full-time, granted, but the point still stands. What the hell do you expect as a part-time employee? Awesome pay and a benefits package? Gimme a break. Once again, look around the rest of the industry and you'll probably be able to count the number of retail business that do so one one, maybe two hands. And I've never heard of Apple Stores firing people at the drop of a hat. Ever. Either someone screwed up or, surprise surprise, the manager of the store did it, not Apple corporate.
But yes, Apple Store employees are expendable. They're not working a highly skilled job. There are people lined up around the damned block who want an Apple Store job. Considering that, I'd say Apple treats them better than most.
Seriously, for a retail/tech grunt job, Apple treats their employees better than most. Just talk to anyone who has worked at Best Buy. I'd expect to see a lot more jobs unionizing before Apple Store employees do it. What the hell?
The 30-year-old employee...
Ah, there we go. 30 years old and working a retail job. Way to go, pal. You know what? YOU ARE EXPENDABLE. You're not skilled labor. There are people lined up to work at Apple Stores who could do your job. Supply and demand applies to labor as well as products, you know. Apple is treating you well as it is. It's not their fault you wound up in a retail storefront at the age of 30. I don't think anyone should expect to make a career there unless they move up the ladder (at least to management of some sort), at which point you'll get better pay and benefits anyway. What a fucking joke.
Look into what Apple Store employees get paid. Look into their benefits. Then look at the rest of the retail industry and see what they get paid. Then shut the hell up because Apple actually treats their employees better than most.
THIS. The assclown calling for a union needs to take a long look at the rest of the retail industry, and then realize that his pay and benefits are FAR better than he'll find almost anywhere else. For a full-time Apple employee, medical benefits start at day 1. Geniuses start at $16/hr, usually higher. You think you'll find that anywhere else in this industry? I'd expect to see Best Buy monkeys unionize before Apple Store employees. Sorry, but there are FAR worse jobs than the Apple Store, pal.
Look into what Apple Store employees make and what their benefits are. Then compare that to any other tech shop or retail storefront. Then realize that this guy is a stupid son of a bitch for griping that some of the best pay and benefits he's going to find in this sort of position are already his.
I know some Apple Store employees. They are all happy with their wages and benefits. Medical benefits at an Apple Store start from day 1. They tend to start at above $16 an hour. What other goddamned salesman, tech, or other retail monkey gets paid that kind of money? Sorry, but this asshat doesn't seem to know that he's not in some high-demand job. There are people who would line up for a shot at an Apple Store job and be happy with it.
They've found that they're getting more and more media attention and loving it.
Because iPods weren't successful until the iPod Touch!
Oh, wait, they were. Apple was storming the MP3 player market by the third generation of iPods, at which point they went up to 30GB.
"Dozens" of reports doesn't mean that much. It could have easily been a phishing attack or someone getting ahold of a different online account from said user and they happened to use the same password.
Someone getting access to your account is NOT necessarily a "breach".
The Mac App Store is available as a free software update for Mac computers running Mac OS X v10.6 or later. If you have an earlier version of Mac OS X, you will need to upgrade to Mac OS X Snow Leopard.
So no, you can't install the App Store in Leopard.
3) Wait for four goddamned gigs to download instead of just installing 10.7 outright from a disc.
O RLY? Name one other cloud-based service with anything remotely CLOSE to the level of integration that iCloud has, and then show me one that doesn't cost anything.