I cannot understand for the life of me why this is allowed, much less encouraged by the government. It's a state-sanctioned monopoly, pure and simple, and it's killing competition and forcing people to go with TW, which sucks shit. Just ask how well that Adelpia merger went and how well it's still going in their godawful email system. Seriously, what happened to the goddamned competition creating a more innovative market? Shit like this leads to stagnation, which is why cable internet still sucks ass when too many people are eating bandwidth. And the usual cable response to that? "We don't give a shit. Go pay double for half the speed on DSL." Ugh. Fuck this stupid bullshit.
Seems more to me that Apple tries to shut people up about it while trying to get it fixed. Not the best way to do it, but I don't think they're ignoring these issues.
And don't forget music done by Marty O'Donnel, who did the soundtracks to Bungie games like Myth and Halo. Myth had an amazing soundtrack to it. I really liked the Halo music, too.
When was the last time you played?? You'd get shit framerates without dropping the details close to the minimum, and even then you'd lag like crazy in areas like Shattrath and on raids.
I doubt they're going to mess with Blizzard. It's going to be more like the Disney-Pixar buyout. Disney was at least smart enough not to mess with what Pixar was doing, because it was damned obvious that they were doing something right. If Activision has any shred of intelligence, they'll let Blizzard keep doing what they're doing with minimal interference, because Blizzard is making over $100m a month off of WoW.
Since when is $35/hr living wage anywhere? Full time with that kind of pay, you'd be making around 70k a year. You could live in a decent apartment in Manhattan for less than that, much less LA, Sanfrancisco,, or a more rural area of California, where it would be much cheaper. I guess living wage means enough to get by plus money to buy lots of other crap.
Same here. Leopard has run fine. The worst that happened was that I had to update a couple piece of software, which is to be expected.
That being said, I've seen some real doozies come through the computer shop where I work. Most can be fixed with an Archive & Install, but some are ugly ones that I still can't figure out, like one new iMac that utterly refuses to launch iWork no matter what I do.
If it was an XP update bug that didn't affect half a dozen people who couldn't do a repair because they didn't have more than 1GB of space, you'd have a point. As it stands now, this is OS updates as usual. Every single patch/service pack/update will have a few horror stories. If this was widespread, then there would be cause for worry. There are a handful of cases that we know of. How did this hit the front page?
The reason he had to reformat is that he had about 1GB left, which means there's not enough space for an archive & install, which would have left all his data intact with a fresh installation of the OS and all would be well again. Nah, don't let that get in the way of your rant against a problem that has affected half a dozen people for all we can tell.
You could have spent two minutes on Google (or even Apple's site as the procedure is outlined) to find out that you can turn back your Mac's clock and still use the Boot Camp beta. Or maybe you didn't realize that you can still use your Windows partition, you just can't use the Boot Camp Assistant to create a new one. In any case, you're an idiot.
Oh, you're one to talk about getting over yourself? Desperately trying to portray this as not a big deal? Yeah, okay, half a dozen people report the issue and it's big news, I guess, and pointing out that there's an inaccurate headline makes me a fanboy. This does not cause people to lose all data. The only reason one guy had to wipe down and install is because he had only 1GB free when crap happened, meaning he couldn't archive and install. Anyone with a couple free gigs could do that, have all their data, and be back up and running after a few bouts of Software Update. But yeah, I'm just a fanboy for downplaying an issue that, for all we can tell, affected less than ten people. Silly me.
Get ahold of Boot Camp and manually turn the clock back about six months. Boot Camp will then work. Partition your drive with it and away you go. Or you could just reinstall OS X, partition the drive before doing so, then boot from the Windows CD and format the remaining partition to NTFS/FAT32. The whole "OMG NO MORE BOOTCAMP!" hype is way overblown. In any case, all new Mac laptops now come with 10.5, so no need to worry anyway.
And if it's a simple procedure that can be fixed with no hardware hacks or such procedures, then it's not bricked. Five minutes on the phone to your local Mac shop would have you humming along with a reinstallation.
You can still boot to your Windows partition just fine. You just can't use Boot Camp to repartition your drive. Hell, you could still install Windows on a secondary hard drive. Yawn.
1. Insert original system CD or compatible retail disc
2. Boot from CD by holding down the C key when you hear the boot chime
3. Proceed with reinstallation. Try to archive & install from the "Options" button at the drive selection stage.
It's not that tough. It's not rendered useless just because you don't know what to do. A simple procedure can make the computer operational again, ergo, it is not bricked.
In addition to my original post, I'd also like to add that I work in a Mac shop. I've seen some Leopard bugs that made me shake my head in disgust, but I have yet to see any issues with 10.4.11, this one included, and I've had plenty of Macs with 10.4.x come across the bench that were upgraded to 10.4.11 with no issues at all. I seriously doubt this is widespread at all.
I never said it wasn't a pain or that there couldn't be data loss. I said the term "brick" was used improperly because bricking implies that it's completely ruined. But hey, try to argue nonexistent semantics, AC.
The Boot Camp beta expiring means you can't use it to repartition your hard drive. It's not going to nuke your Windows partition/drive. You could even use a Windows install disc to install to another hard drive, or even wipe OS X and install Windows without ever using Boot Camp.
If someone can hear the difference between 256kbps AAC and a lossless codec without top dollar audio equipment, I would be very surprised.
I cannot understand for the life of me why this is allowed, much less encouraged by the government. It's a state-sanctioned monopoly, pure and simple, and it's killing competition and forcing people to go with TW, which sucks shit. Just ask how well that Adelpia merger went and how well it's still going in their godawful email system. Seriously, what happened to the goddamned competition creating a more innovative market? Shit like this leads to stagnation, which is why cable internet still sucks ass when too many people are eating bandwidth. And the usual cable response to that? "We don't give a shit. Go pay double for half the speed on DSL." Ugh. Fuck this stupid bullshit.
Seems more to me that Apple tries to shut people up about it while trying to get it fixed. Not the best way to do it, but I don't think they're ignoring these issues.
To quote Conan the Librarian: Don't you know the dewey decimal system?
And don't forget music done by Marty O'Donnel, who did the soundtracks to Bungie games like Myth and Halo. Myth had an amazing soundtrack to it. I really liked the Halo music, too.
When was the last time you played?? You'd get shit framerates without dropping the details close to the minimum, and even then you'd lag like crazy in areas like Shattrath and on raids.
No ASCIIPORN.COM?
I doubt they're going to mess with Blizzard. It's going to be more like the Disney-Pixar buyout. Disney was at least smart enough not to mess with what Pixar was doing, because it was damned obvious that they were doing something right. If Activision has any shred of intelligence, they'll let Blizzard keep doing what they're doing with minimal interference, because Blizzard is making over $100m a month off of WoW.
Since when is $35/hr living wage anywhere? Full time with that kind of pay, you'd be making around 70k a year. You could live in a decent apartment in Manhattan for less than that, much less LA, Sanfrancisco,, or a more rural area of California, where it would be much cheaper. I guess living wage means enough to get by plus money to buy lots of other crap.
In addition, I'd like to add that while Leopard has been a pain in the ass on occasions, I'll take it over Vista any day of the week and then some.
Same here. Leopard has run fine. The worst that happened was that I had to update a couple piece of software, which is to be expected.
That being said, I've seen some real doozies come through the computer shop where I work. Most can be fixed with an Archive & Install, but some are ugly ones that I still can't figure out, like one new iMac that utterly refuses to launch iWork no matter what I do.
Nah, every Google search will bring up nothing but Ron Paul pages in the first 100 results.
I think Slashdot is seeing an influx of idiot Diggers desperately looking for geek cred.
If it was an XP update bug that didn't affect half a dozen people who couldn't do a repair because they didn't have more than 1GB of space, you'd have a point. As it stands now, this is OS updates as usual. Every single patch/service pack/update will have a few horror stories. If this was widespread, then there would be cause for worry. There are a handful of cases that we know of. How did this hit the front page?
The reason he had to reformat is that he had about 1GB left, which means there's not enough space for an archive & install, which would have left all his data intact with a fresh installation of the OS and all would be well again. Nah, don't let that get in the way of your rant against a problem that has affected half a dozen people for all we can tell.
You could have spent two minutes on Google (or even Apple's site as the procedure is outlined) to find out that you can turn back your Mac's clock and still use the Boot Camp beta. Or maybe you didn't realize that you can still use your Windows partition, you just can't use the Boot Camp Assistant to create a new one. In any case, you're an idiot.
Oh, you're one to talk about getting over yourself? Desperately trying to portray this as not a big deal? Yeah, okay, half a dozen people report the issue and it's big news, I guess, and pointing out that there's an inaccurate headline makes me a fanboy. This does not cause people to lose all data. The only reason one guy had to wipe down and install is because he had only 1GB free when crap happened, meaning he couldn't archive and install. Anyone with a couple free gigs could do that, have all their data, and be back up and running after a few bouts of Software Update. But yeah, I'm just a fanboy for downplaying an issue that, for all we can tell, affected less than ten people. Silly me.
Get ahold of Boot Camp and manually turn the clock back about six months. Boot Camp will then work. Partition your drive with it and away you go. Or you could just reinstall OS X, partition the drive before doing so, then boot from the Windows CD and format the remaining partition to NTFS/FAT32. The whole "OMG NO MORE BOOTCAMP!" hype is way overblown. In any case, all new Mac laptops now come with 10.5, so no need to worry anyway.
And if it's a simple procedure that can be fixed with no hardware hacks or such procedures, then it's not bricked. Five minutes on the phone to your local Mac shop would have you humming along with a reinstallation.
Oh, bullshit. I work in a Mac shop and have yet to see one problem related to 10.4.11. I've seen a lot more with Leopard.
You can still boot to your Windows partition just fine. You just can't use Boot Camp to repartition your drive. Hell, you could still install Windows on a secondary hard drive. Yawn.
1. Insert original system CD or compatible retail disc 2. Boot from CD by holding down the C key when you hear the boot chime 3. Proceed with reinstallation. Try to archive & install from the "Options" button at the drive selection stage. It's not that tough. It's not rendered useless just because you don't know what to do. A simple procedure can make the computer operational again, ergo, it is not bricked.
In addition to my original post, I'd also like to add that I work in a Mac shop. I've seen some Leopard bugs that made me shake my head in disgust, but I have yet to see any issues with 10.4.11, this one included, and I've had plenty of Macs with 10.4.x come across the bench that were upgraded to 10.4.11 with no issues at all. I seriously doubt this is widespread at all.
I never said it wasn't a pain or that there couldn't be data loss. I said the term "brick" was used improperly because bricking implies that it's completely ruined. But hey, try to argue nonexistent semantics, AC.
The Boot Camp beta expiring means you can't use it to repartition your hard drive. It's not going to nuke your Windows partition/drive. You could even use a Windows install disc to install to another hard drive, or even wipe OS X and install Windows without ever using Boot Camp.