No reasonable person can still blame the user for M$'s sorry security [...] Windoze system flaws are so pervasive that choice of browser, firewalls and the like can only delay the result.
Thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of people got infected by the latest Storm Worm. Their machines are now part of a botnet. This worm requires a considerable amount of user action and it infects only unpatched machines. Tell me again how this is Microsoft's fault, please. Tell me again how all of these worms and trojans that require an inordinate amount of user action are Microsoft's fault. Explain to me how Joe Windows getting infected with an executable inside a password-protected ZIP file is Microsoft's fault.
When you're done with that, explain to me how it is possible for people not to get infected by anything if your claims that it's impossible to run Windows securely are true. Because otherwise 100% of all "Windoze" machines would be in a botnet, as opposed to your mythic 25%, which Macthorpe pretty much debunked (for the 42nd time in a row).
Really looking forward to that, though as usual you'll probably just pretend no one replied to you, because once you leave your soundbyte bullet point FUD security blanket, you are completely lost for arguments, like all zealots.
You are truly deranged, you aren't really and you know you're lying, or you're paid to blabber all these stupidities on the internets. Which is it?
twitter, who likes to shill Slashdot for fun and profit with lies and FUD asks:
No, the hundreds of people with broken windoze I saw were not stupid, their software was.
Please enlighten us then, why exactly were these "windoze" computers broken? Surely there must be a reason other than your claims that "Windoze" sucks? Simple empirical evidence is enough to disprove that, as if it was necessary to begin with. So why were these computers giving your PC monkey repair shop headaches?
Anyone who works retail is quickly freed from the M$ elitism you suffer from.
Can you explain what this means?
Care to tell me why Mac stores are not crowded with all sorts of the same? No, it's not the popularity of Windoze
Probably because there's no BonzyBuddy for OS X yet. Just give it time. Or is Apple planning on not allowing people to install stuff on their own computers? Or is it that if I buy a Mac I magically become a computer expert?
The posting history cited above shows both dishonesty and malice.
Speaking of posting histories, a fellow/.'er who recognizes what you are just posted one of my favorites. Enjoy!
FUD is FUD, no matter who it comes from. It's underhanded and dishonest, because it's made up of lies. It doesn't matter if it's Ballmer saying that Linux infringes on some vague number of patents, or a half million random slashbots humping up the "M$ Windoze blue screen vista suxxorz bob throws chairs LOLOLZ" hilarity with various degrees of insightful-sounding prose.
It's sad that you would think a year is something to brag about.
That's an interesting assertion. Let's see, I have here an old Dell Inspiron 2500 which has had the same install of Windows 2000 (or "Winblows", that's hilarious) for almost eight years. My PC at work has had the same XP install going on three years now, and the one PC at home that doesn't have Vista installed has had XP for close to five years. None of them has any problems whatsoever, probably because I take care of them by not installing every crap program I find on the interwebs. I don't reinstall "Winblows" every year, and neither do most people.
Having worked retail repair within the last three years
Oh, so you you fix PCs used by stupid people. I guess it's OK if you generalize that to everyone.
I can safely say you are a liar.
Oooh, I guess I must be lying, too.
Vista is no better
Oh, your journal. A lot of people are familiar with it, now.
So let me ask you something twitter. You claim to "advocate" free software, here on Slashdot. I guess elsewhere. What possible value did the free software movement just realize from your infantile ad hominem and exaggeration-for-mod-points post here?
Actually I'd say they are aware of the problems and are trying to fix them. Whether or not they fix them and whether or not that results in faster adoption remains to be seen.
huckster Microsoft cheerleaders saying how great it is but this is the internet and the voices of everyone else are heard loud and clear so the lying isn't being believed.
Alternatively, you can also hear the FUDsters and hysteria-inducing misleading rants about the DRM boogeyman, UAC and just about anything else in Vista. The "poor Google, they are being victimized by Microsoft" crap when Vista search is much better than GDS and all Google had to do was give the user the option to shut down the indexing service. The wailing cries by the AV snake oil vendors. And let's not forget the concerted efforts by the FSF to convince everyone that Vista is "defective by design" and directing their minions to the closest Amazon product page to astroturf and vandalize the hell out of everything. It goes on and on and on.
I sure as hell haven't seen much more than FUD coming from the groups of people who would be the most affected once Vista gains traction. I don't have a problem with people doing that so much - Microsoft is known for those types of tactic as well. The problem is that the same people doing all this are the ones that have repeatedly claimed they own the moral high ground. The ones that claim Microsoft is not "honest". FUD always works both ways. It erodes your credibility when people realize you've been feeding them soup to undercut your competitors. It happened to Microsoft, and it will happen to them as well.
Par for the course. I'm not even sure why Microsoft has to "respond" to a thread on a discussion site about something that isn't even reproducible. But hey, do you see all those ads at the top of the Slashdot pages? Open source has to live somehow, and this is how they do it.
No, that would be one of your actual fans. You're famous now, a shining bright light in the Free Software community. Everyone looks up to you. They know you by your interwebs handle. Bask in that warmth and enjoy it. The rest of us poor little mere mortals are mostly amused.
The 220,000 or so members of the Slashdot Members Who Post Authoritative Statements On The Inner Workings Of Microsoft To Support Their Arguments warmly welcomes you to the club.
Because, of course, a comparison between Windows and Linux written by you would be entirely unbiased and would take in the merits and demerits of each equally.
Well yes, it would be better and that's the scandal. [...] M$... M$... M$... Windoze... M$... M$... Windoze... etc
Thanks twitter. I was having a bad morning but now that I laughed for a few minutes it's all better.
It's more troubling still if he does not understand the relationship between freedom and technical excellence.
He doesn't "understand" it probably because it exists only in the heads of a few people like yourself who think they're in a holy crusade to change the ways of the heathen unbelievers.
Of course no "technical excellence" ever came out of anywhere other than GNU. But then like your hero Stallman once said with that curiously petulant demeanor of his, "there are thousands of non-free programs, and most merit no special attention other than to develop a free replacement" You've been sucking on that pipe a little too hard. Come to think of it, you are identical to him - trapped in a crippling fog of social ineptitude, misguided extremist dogma and complete lack of awareness and any sense of measure whatsoever. Although you can add infantile hatred to the list as well.
No one, and certainly not me, discard the value of freedom or the social significance of what Stallman has done. But to quote someone else, it's not God that scares me. It's his fan club that scares the shit out of me. Design and implementation are two very different things. You suck at the implementation.
For all your bullshit, bluster and puerile insults, you couldn't prove that this particular patch caused a problem the last one didn't, or the one before. Regardless of how many "packages" there were. The same exact number of machines rebooted the exact same number of times - one. Just like last month. The rest of your "argument" is the usual throwaway zealot poetry that accomplishes nothing other than to prove you are starting to lose it.
Wake me up when you learn how to think for yourself instead of just parroting the gnu/party line.
This sounds, to me, like half the astroturf here on Slashdot. No self respecting free software advocate would call themselves a "Microsoft-hater" or a "zealot". These are terms M$ has made up to defend their non free software, digital restrictions, licensing and other obnoxious practices. Anyone who values freedom is labled this way by non free software companies. Dislike of these practices does not make a person blind. His objectivity is suspect to say the least.
Just another example of your infantile waffling. You're a pathological liar who can't keep his stupid lies straight for more than three days.
Oops, you started out wrong here, zealot. Let's back up a bit. Don't put letters in my posts, and stop peppering yours with links to useless FUD that has been disproved time and time again. A little less of that petulant hillbilly prose would be nice, too.
On the contrary, old copies of "Windoze" are extremely useful, now more than ever, because so much software was written for the platform that you never know when those old floppies and CDs are going to come in handy. A few years ago I helped a friend of mine get some data he had in the files of a shareware PIM application that wouldn't install on Windows XP. I just made a copy of my VPC Windows 95 image, installed the PIM from the shareware CD it was in, opened his files and exported them to Access 97. Then I just copied the MDB file over to an Office 2003 machine and exported the three or four tables as CSV.
I did this myself a few times even before, but by actually installing the OS on older boxes. Either way, the "Windoze" copies are handy to keep around.
They can be fun, but they are tied to a particular set of hardware and software that's all rotting away.
What does this even mean? You mean Linux 1.08 x86 isn't tied to some hardware that's "rotting away"?
Emulation is interesting but difficult thanks to all the built in traps.
How is it "difficult" and what are the "traps"? So far VPC and VMWare work fine for most people.
This has nothing to do with IE7. The URI handler functionality is something that has existed since Windows 98. Where do you think KDE got the bright idea for kioslaves? As long as you are responsible enough to check your inputs (which apparently IE6 and 7 and Opera do) then there shouldn't be any problem.
You can stop trying to imply that this is some sort of sabotage by Microsoft, considering they'd be sabotaging themselves in the process. No different to your dumb claim that they "sabotaged" ACPI.
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Thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of people got infected by the latest Storm Worm. Their machines are now part of a botnet. This worm requires a considerable amount of user action and it infects only unpatched machines. Tell me again how this is Microsoft's fault, please. Tell me again how all of these worms and trojans that require an inordinate amount of user action are Microsoft's fault. Explain to me how Joe Windows getting infected with an executable inside a password-protected ZIP file is Microsoft's fault.
When you're done with that, explain to me how it is possible for people not to get infected by anything if your claims that it's impossible to run Windows securely are true. Because otherwise 100% of all "Windoze" machines would be in a botnet, as opposed to your mythic 25%, which Macthorpe pretty much debunked (for the 42nd time in a row).
Really looking forward to that, though as usual you'll probably just pretend no one replied to you, because once you leave your soundbyte bullet point FUD security blanket, you are completely lost for arguments, like all zealots.
You are truly deranged, you aren't really and you know you're lying, or you're paid to blabber all these stupidities on the internets. Which is it?
Why do you feel it's necessary to use more than one account to post to Slashdot?
Please enlighten us then, why exactly were these "windoze" computers broken? Surely there must be a reason other than your claims that "Windoze" sucks? Simple empirical evidence is enough to disprove that, as if it was necessary to begin with. So why were these computers giving your PC monkey repair shop headaches?
Can you explain what this means?
Probably because there's no BonzyBuddy for OS X yet. Just give it time. Or is Apple planning on not allowing people to install stuff on their own computers? Or is it that if I buy a Mac I magically become a computer expert?
Speaking of posting histories, a fellow /.'er who recognizes what you are just posted one of my favorites. Enjoy!
So twitter, no response?
FUD is FUD, no matter who it comes from. It's underhanded and dishonest, because it's made up of lies. It doesn't matter if it's Ballmer saying that Linux infringes on some vague number of patents, or a half million random slashbots humping up the "M$ Windoze blue screen vista suxxorz bob throws chairs LOLOLZ" hilarity with various degrees of insightful-sounding prose.
That's an interesting assertion. Let's see, I have here an old Dell Inspiron 2500 which has had the same install of Windows 2000 (or "Winblows", that's hilarious) for almost eight years. My PC at work has had the same XP install going on three years now, and the one PC at home that doesn't have Vista installed has had XP for close to five years. None of them has any problems whatsoever, probably because I take care of them by not installing every crap program I find on the interwebs. I don't reinstall "Winblows" every year, and neither do most people.
Oh, so you you fix PCs used by stupid people. I guess it's OK if you generalize that to everyone.
Oooh, I guess I must be lying, too.
Oh, your journal. A lot of people are familiar with it, now.
So let me ask you something twitter. You claim to "advocate" free software, here on Slashdot. I guess elsewhere. What possible value did the free software movement just realize from your infantile ad hominem and exaggeration-for-mod-points post here?
Alternatively, you can also hear the FUDsters and hysteria-inducing misleading rants about the DRM boogeyman, UAC and just about anything else in Vista. The "poor Google, they are being victimized by Microsoft" crap when Vista search is much better than GDS and all Google had to do was give the user the option to shut down the indexing service. The wailing cries by the AV snake oil vendors. And let's not forget the concerted efforts by the FSF to convince everyone that Vista is "defective by design" and directing their minions to the closest Amazon product page to astroturf and vandalize the hell out of everything. It goes on and on and on.
I sure as hell haven't seen much more than FUD coming from the groups of people who would be the most affected once Vista gains traction. I don't have a problem with people doing that so much - Microsoft is known for those types of tactic as well. The problem is that the same people doing all this are the ones that have repeatedly claimed they own the moral high ground. The ones that claim Microsoft is not "honest". FUD always works both ways. It erodes your credibility when people realize you've been feeding them soup to undercut your competitors. It happened to Microsoft, and it will happen to them as well.
No, 'Erris' (whose journal this got published from) is one of twitter's (the one linked to) sockpuppets.
Par for the course. I'm not even sure why Microsoft has to "respond" to a thread on a discussion site about something that isn't even reproducible. But hey, do you see all those ads at the top of the Slashdot pages? Open source has to live somehow, and this is how they do it.
So the people who think Windows "crashes" are going to recognize Linux? That's an amusing assertion.
No, that's all in your head.
Of course neither of the adjectives is valid, as you probably well know.
HAHAHAH! Oh, the pain. Thanks for the link!
No, that would be one of your actual fans. You're famous now, a shining bright light in the Free Software community. Everyone looks up to you. They know you by your interwebs handle. Bask in that warmth and enjoy it. The rest of us poor little mere mortals are mostly amused.
The 220,000 or so members of the Slashdot Members Who Post Authoritative Statements On The Inner Workings Of Microsoft To Support Their Arguments warmly welcomes you to the club.
Thanks twitter. I was having a bad morning but now that I laughed for a few minutes it's all better.
He doesn't "understand" it probably because it exists only in the heads of a few people like yourself who think they're in a holy crusade to change the ways of the heathen unbelievers.
Of course no "technical excellence" ever came out of anywhere other than GNU. But then like your hero Stallman once said with that curiously petulant demeanor of his, "there are thousands of non-free programs, and most merit no special attention other than to develop a free replacement" You've been sucking on that pipe a little too hard. Come to think of it, you are identical to him - trapped in a crippling fog of social ineptitude, misguided extremist dogma and complete lack of awareness and any sense of measure whatsoever. Although you can add infantile hatred to the list as well.
No one, and certainly not me, discard the value of freedom or the social significance of what Stallman has done. But to quote someone else, it's not God that scares me. It's his fan club that scares the shit out of me. Design and implementation are two very different things. You suck at the implementation.
Wake me up when you learn how to think for yourself instead of just parroting the gnu/party line.
So enlighten us here, why didn't this happen last Patch Tuesday? Or the one before?
Pardon me for suggesting you refrain from using it as a bullet point in your posts then, especially if you're using that faux authoritative tone.
Your desperation to pin this on "M$" somehow is really getting old.
Just another example of your infantile waffling. You're a pathological liar who can't keep his stupid lies straight for more than three days.
Oops, you started out wrong here, zealot. Let's back up a bit. Don't put letters in my posts, and stop peppering yours with links to useless FUD that has been disproved time and time again. A little less of that petulant hillbilly prose would be nice, too.
Try again, and this time put some effort into it.
I did this myself a few times even before, but by actually installing the OS on older boxes. Either way, the "Windoze" copies are handy to keep around.
What does this even mean? You mean Linux 1.08 x86 isn't tied to some hardware that's "rotting away"?
How is it "difficult" and what are the "traps"? So far VPC and VMWare work fine for most people.
You can stop trying to imply that this is some sort of sabotage by Microsoft, considering they'd be sabotaging themselves in the process. No different to your dumb claim that they "sabotaged" ACPI.
- One in ten men are affected by Erectile dysfunction
- You have nine neighbours
Given the above, it's fair to say that the chances that you can get it up on any given day is virtually non-existant.Another way to put that is that they contradict your baseless claims and idiotic extrapolations.