Music is auditory, and recording it is very different to emulating it. I don't think music is different from art or music. It is created from human expression just the same, only the medium is different. When you talk about emulation that is what your player does, it emulates the music the musician created. An MP3 not an exact replica (encoding loses data), and moreover, it's recorded in a special room and manipulated by all sorts of machines to sound good (see Ashlee Simpson). The robot is a recording device, same as a camera, but it functions in 3-dimensions, you can walk around it, you can see things that may be hidden from a camera. Perhaps your objection is that the robot is limited such that it may not have the resolution to capture everything important. Maybe facial expressions are lost, or its incapable to capture an exact postion. I would agree with that. But, as a tool I think a robot is valuable and over time improvements could make it so that what it loses could be comparable to the differences between a live concert performance and a CD.
To record the moves to be replayed verbatim over and over is insulting to say the least, and verging on the point of disgusting. It certainly isn't right. Do you think it's wrong that we record music? I mean we record the sounds and play them over and over, never changing. Saying "robots should never dance" is pretty short-sighted. It could be used for a number of historical purposes. Throw the 'bot in a box for 200 years, and compare his moves to what is being done at the time. Society collapses, and styles are lost, the robot could be an important point of study and revive a dead style. From a tech standpoint the robots could also be used to improve AI, so that robots can mimic (or even develop depending on your philosophical view), minor variances based on "feelings" when performing something artistic.
Now's the time to move. If they do, they could still save a tidy business in selling specialty hardware and would get additional revenue from ads on the guides. Of course, it wouldn't be the same fat cut they took before, but it would keep them alive. More likely they'd sell off their technology to the highest bidder. The Tivo type service has moved upstream to be bundled with the cable service. The cable service companies can offer everything Tivo can, but Tivo cannot do the opposite; that is why they are in a no win position. I think that quick action, in the vein of Mozilla organization/license for the platform would make the Tivo platform IMPOSSIBLE to stop. Besides the hobbiest geek, who would buy a Tivo or a similar product? The average user will get their box and service from the cable/dish company (for $5 a month), and be content. It's the same reason people overwhelmingly use Internet Explorer. Most people won't go searching around the internet, messing with various hardware and software to skip commercials. They'll be lazy and live with their cable company service, unless something very compelling in the vein of IE security issues pop up; and even then most people wouldn't care. Tivo right now is in a position to sell out their technology, and more importantly their name (think Cablevision Personal Video Center, powered by Tivo). They would more likely sell out, than fade into obscurity, scraping by on nickles and dimes they get from hobbyists.
Just another case of anything that is well designed, useful, tastes good or has some intrinsic value in this world disappearing, while all the junk sticks around endlessly. No it's a case of somebody creating a unique product, not adequately protecting the technology, and ending up drowned by an ocean of "me-too" products that have greater clout because of corporate tie-ins.
Aside from providing cheap crappy merchandise and stealing our jobs? You mean provide cheap labor for low value added jobs, allowing the US workforce to leverage those products focus on higher margin activities.
There are more engineers than even what you show, since mechanical, materials, chemical, and industrial, engineers are all involved in the manufacturing process.
what other parts even suffer "wear"? CPUs suffer long term issues from solder fatigue, corrosion, diffusion, intermetallic growth, etc. I believe that reliability models for these things are based on ensuring you don't run into issues for 7 years.
How can the greedy be phased out? How would you define greed? At the simplest level greed is the desire for anything you don't need to survive. Yes if you eliminate greed there is no need for an economy, since there would be no need to trade. Of course it would make for a very boring world. Everybody creating and consuming only what is needed, food, water, and basic shelter. How much does one man need? It's not about need, it's about want. People have very few needs, but pretty much have unlimited wants. If you could decide, what level of want would you set the human mind to? Is a private jet excessive? What about a BMW, or even a car altogether? How about computers, they were a luxury item most people lived without 20 years ago, now they are in important tool in daily life for people around the world. Even basic things like food could be considered excesses. Why do you have to go out and spend $30 at a restaurant for a delicious meal when you could have a bland (though nutrionally sufficient) meal for $2. When we truly understand the mind, will we really need an economy? As long as wants or needs exceed available resources, there will be the requirement of an economy to decide how to distribute the resources.
Thank you. Although I am now amazed that at the end of the 20th century, this would be the best transmission technology NASA could come up with. It was probably the best they could come up with in the late 80's, early 90's. You have to account for travel time as well as the time for construction. It's amazing how fast technology progresses, but even more amazing what the NASA engineers can do with "inferior" technology.
I think the mod bots just automatically give you -1 flamebait for including "-- DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO --" only thing I can think of. What? You mean the mods are real people? Suuuure.
If the Cylons don't get her by episode 13, the cancer will. They'll drag it out.... they always do. She's almost dead, YAY, oh wait, no, no, don't go to the planet with the magic grapefruit that cures cancer!!! NOOOO!!
Is that "I'm president cuz I was #50 on the list" woman. The only reason there is a line of succession is the psychology of controlling a large group of people... of course the people are all dead. Any military commander would tell her to shut the hell up and leave things to real leaders.
But if a corporate looks to identify ideal research outcome through its sponsorship, it's not a good thing for science and engineering. It is a good thing for science and engineering. Corporations have insight into the direction of industry, and sometimes find gaps in what is being done in the university and where things are heading. 100% corporate driven research is not useful because it is too focused on specific issues, while 100% non-corporate research may too spread out to be valuable to help with the fast pace of industry.
DNS != internet, You're right, but the IP address is also regulated by governing bodies. http://154.23.53.43/index.html only works because there is one computer with that number. There are also agreed upon standards such as port assignments, and protocols that facilitate transactions between all manner of devices. without DNS the internet would still work. But the world wide web wouldn't be so easy to use any more (http://154.23.53.43/index.html) Imagine how messy the internet would be without standardized DNS registry. Ford.com for one person takes them to the auto maker, Ford.Com for another person takes them to the Ford Prefect Fan Site. That is what the author proposes for the wireless spectrum. Sony could make its cordless phones intentionally interfere with Nokia cell phones, or a near monopoly like clear channel could let it's radio station signals spill over to completely wipe out any independent radio station.
Exactly. The author makes the mistake of confusing internet content with internet infrastructure. The reason the internet works so well is that there is an agreed upon regulated infrastructure with unregulated content.
Locally, I know that Wisconsin has had warm and/or snowless winters in the past, but not year after year, and that thunderstorms (which require warm air masses) in January used to be rare as hens' teeth, and that maybe we're not too happy about those catastrophic localized results, hey? Locally there were also glaciers covering wisconsin for thousands of years, if that happened again would something be wrong, right, or just different? If you look at the data there were periods within the last 100 years where Wisconsin had above average temp winters 7 out of 8 years. That doesn't mean globally things are way off, if the temperature changes by just 2C globally things would change much more drasticlly than what is being described.
A new movie. Like with new ideas. That'd be crazy. I don't want new ideas, I want something familiar, something that will keep me entertained for 2 hours, does not require thinking in any form, and that will quickly fade out of my head like: "Edgy cop who gets framed, and has to take down the crime lord to prove his innocence," "Muscle Guy who uses machine guns and explosives to save his family/town/girlfriend," "Future war between man and alien/robots," "Love story of a girl who is to marry the slick rich guy, but falls in love with the simple emotional guy" (to umm take my girlfriend to,yeah) "Farmer who goes on an epic journey to save the world/galaxy/universe from evil" "The underdog sports team of out of shape misfits, that comes together to win the championship""The earth is doomed by some natural disaster unless a team of scientists can save us" "Adam Sandler/Ben Stiller/Farelly Bros slapstick/gross out funny movie"
So based on 8-10 years of data you extrapolate that winter MUST be between Dec20th and March, and that because another data set a decade is different it must be severe caused by climate change due to global warming. The world climate hasn't changed a lot, your local climate has. Natural fluctuations means someplaces get hotter, some places get cooler, but overall there is very little difference in the climate. If the overall temperature or weather patterns change even by a little, you'll see catastrophic localized results.
This is what bothers me about corporate greed So individual greed is better? The company invests alot money and takes the risk in these inventions, lab space, equipment, materials, and salary are not free. For every one successful product, there are dozens of failed products. Further, the invention itself doesn't instantly net dollars, it requires further millions of investment to develop manufacturing techniques and capacity as well as marketing. If your job is to invent things, you get salary to invent, whether the things you create net $0 or $1 billion. If you want a % of profits decide that up front in your contract, not after the fact.
Just because the discovery of giant stars gets all the press coverage, doesn't mean NASA isn't involved in fundamental science and research that may be applicable to the real world. NASA provides a yearly list of spinoff products
Also NASA doesn't have to create a new product that everybody buys to be useful. Better understanding of materials, new measurement techniques, or even new ways to model systems, all have practical benifits. The average person on the street may not care, but design or manufacturing companies could be interested. You can browse the Technical Reports Archive and find alot of engineering research on things from Water Treatment to Evaluating manufacturing and assembly errors on rotating machinery
Slashdot Mirror
A long as nobody programs them to "moon the crowd and wipe themselves on the goal post". Though it'd be damn funny.
don't think music is different from art or music
Meant to say music is not different from art or dance, think its time for another redbull.
Only for old people in Korea...
Music is auditory, and recording it is very different to emulating it.
I don't think music is different from art or music. It is created from human expression just the same, only the medium is different. When you talk about emulation that is what your player does, it emulates the music the musician created. An MP3 not an exact replica (encoding loses data), and moreover, it's recorded in a special room and manipulated by all sorts of machines to sound good (see Ashlee Simpson).
The robot is a recording device, same as a camera, but it functions in 3-dimensions, you can walk around it, you can see things that may be hidden from a camera. Perhaps your objection is that the robot is limited such that it may not have the resolution to capture everything important. Maybe facial expressions are lost, or its incapable to capture an exact postion. I would agree with that. But, as a tool I think a robot is valuable and over time improvements could make it so that what it loses could be comparable to the differences between a live concert performance and a CD.
And I thought you eastern cultures where supposed to be wise!
Geez, somebody responds to an insentive stereotype with their own.
To record the moves to be replayed verbatim over and over is insulting to say the least, and verging on the point of disgusting. It certainly isn't right.
Do you think it's wrong that we record music? I mean we record the sounds and play them over and over, never changing. Saying "robots should never dance" is pretty short-sighted. It could be used for a number of historical purposes. Throw the 'bot in a box for 200 years, and compare his moves to what is being done at the time. Society collapses, and styles are lost, the robot could be an important point of study and revive a dead style.
From a tech standpoint the robots could also be used to improve AI, so that robots can mimic (or even develop depending on your philosophical view), minor variances based on "feelings" when performing something artistic.
Now's the time to move. If they do, they could still save a tidy business in selling specialty hardware and would get additional revenue from ads on the guides. Of course, it wouldn't be the same fat cut they took before, but it would keep them alive.
More likely they'd sell off their technology to the highest bidder. The Tivo type service has moved upstream to be bundled with the cable service. The cable service companies can offer everything Tivo can, but Tivo cannot do the opposite; that is why they are in a no win position.
I think that quick action, in the vein of Mozilla organization/license for the platform would make the Tivo platform IMPOSSIBLE to stop.
Besides the hobbiest geek, who would buy a Tivo or a similar product? The average user will get their box and service from the cable/dish company (for $5 a month), and be content. It's the same reason people overwhelmingly use Internet Explorer. Most people won't go searching around the internet, messing with various hardware and software to skip commercials. They'll be lazy and live with their cable company service, unless something very compelling in the vein of IE security issues pop up; and even then most people wouldn't care.
Tivo right now is in a position to sell out their technology, and more importantly their name (think Cablevision Personal Video Center, powered by Tivo). They would more likely sell out, than fade into obscurity, scraping by on nickles and dimes they get from hobbyists.
Just another case of anything that is well designed, useful, tastes good or has some intrinsic value in this world disappearing, while all the junk sticks around endlessly.
No it's a case of somebody creating a unique product, not adequately protecting the technology, and ending up drowned by an ocean of "me-too" products that have greater clout because of corporate tie-ins.
Aside from providing cheap crappy merchandise and stealing our jobs?
You mean provide cheap labor for low value added jobs, allowing the US workforce to leverage those products focus on higher margin activities.
There are more engineers than even what you show, since mechanical, materials, chemical, and industrial, engineers are all involved in the manufacturing process.
what other parts even suffer "wear"?
CPUs suffer long term issues from solder fatigue, corrosion, diffusion, intermetallic growth, etc. I believe that reliability models for these things are based on ensuring you don't run into issues for 7 years.
How can the greedy be phased out?
How would you define greed? At the simplest level greed is the desire for anything you don't need to survive. Yes if you eliminate greed there is no need for an economy, since there would be no need to trade. Of course it would make for a very boring world. Everybody creating and consuming only what is needed, food, water, and basic shelter.
How much does one man need?
It's not about need, it's about want. People have very few needs, but pretty much have unlimited wants. If you could decide, what level of want would you set the human mind to? Is a private jet excessive? What about a BMW, or even a car altogether? How about computers, they were a luxury item most people lived without 20 years ago, now they are in important tool in daily life for people around the world. Even basic things like food could be considered excesses. Why do you have to go out and spend $30 at a restaurant for a delicious meal when you could have a bland (though nutrionally sufficient) meal for $2.
When we truly understand the mind, will we really need an economy?
As long as wants or needs exceed available resources, there will be the requirement of an economy to decide how to distribute the resources.
Thank you. Although I am now amazed that at the end of the 20th century, this would be the best transmission technology NASA could come up with.
It was probably the best they could come up with in the late 80's, early 90's. You have to account for travel time as well as the time for construction. It's amazing how fast technology progresses, but even more amazing what the NASA engineers can do with "inferior" technology.
I think the mod bots just automatically give you -1 flamebait for including "-- DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO --" only thing I can think of. What? You mean the mods are real people? Suuuure.
Maybe they actually meant the Vl'Hurg fighters were only microns away.
If the Cylons don't get her by episode 13, the cancer will.
They'll drag it out.... they always do. She's almost dead, YAY, oh wait, no, no, don't go to the planet with the magic grapefruit that cures cancer!!! NOOOO!!
Is that "I'm president cuz I was #50 on the list" woman. The only reason there is a line of succession is the psychology of controlling a large group of people... of course the people are all dead.
Any military commander would tell her to shut the hell up and leave things to real leaders.
But if a corporate looks to identify ideal research outcome through its sponsorship, it's not a good thing for science and engineering.
It is a good thing for science and engineering. Corporations have insight into the direction of industry, and sometimes find gaps in what is being done in the university and where things are heading. 100% corporate driven research is not useful because it is too focused on specific issues, while 100% non-corporate research may too spread out to be valuable to help with the fast pace of industry.
DNS != internet,
You're right, but the IP address is also regulated by governing bodies. http://154.23.53.43/index.html only works because there is one computer with that number. There are also agreed upon standards such as port assignments, and protocols that facilitate transactions between all manner of devices.
without DNS the internet would still work. But the world wide web wouldn't be so easy to use any more (http://154.23.53.43/index.html)
Imagine how messy the internet would be without standardized DNS registry. Ford.com for one person takes them to the auto maker, Ford.Com for another person takes them to the Ford Prefect Fan Site. That is what the author proposes for the wireless spectrum. Sony could make its cordless phones intentionally interfere with Nokia cell phones, or a near monopoly like clear channel could let it's radio station signals spill over to completely wipe out any independent radio station.
Exactly. The author makes the mistake of confusing internet content with internet infrastructure.
The reason the internet works so well is that there is an agreed upon regulated infrastructure with unregulated content.
Locally, I know that Wisconsin has had warm and/or snowless winters in the past, but not year after year, and that thunderstorms (which require warm air masses) in January used to be rare as hens' teeth, and that maybe we're not too happy about those catastrophic localized results, hey?
Locally there were also glaciers covering wisconsin for thousands of years, if that happened again would something be wrong, right, or just different? If you look at the data there were periods within the last 100 years where Wisconsin had above average temp winters 7 out of 8 years. That doesn't mean globally things are way off, if the temperature changes by just 2C globally things would change much more drasticlly than what is being described.
A new movie. Like with new ideas. That'd be crazy.
I don't want new ideas, I want something familiar, something that will keep me entertained for 2 hours, does not require thinking in any form, and that will quickly fade out of my head like:
"Edgy cop who gets framed, and has to take down the crime lord to prove his innocence,"
"Muscle Guy who uses machine guns and explosives to save his family/town/girlfriend,"
"Future war between man and alien/robots,"
"Love story of a girl who is to marry the slick rich guy, but falls in love with the simple emotional guy" (to umm take my girlfriend to,yeah)
"Farmer who goes on an epic journey to save the world/galaxy/universe from evil"
"The underdog sports team of out of shape misfits, that comes together to win the championship""The earth is doomed by some natural disaster unless a team of scientists can save us"
"Adam Sandler/Ben Stiller/Farelly Bros slapstick/gross out funny movie"
So based on 8-10 years of data you extrapolate that winter MUST be between Dec20th and March, and that because another data set a decade is different it must be severe caused by climate change due to global warming.
The world climate hasn't changed a lot, your local climate has. Natural fluctuations means someplaces get hotter, some places get cooler, but overall there is very little difference in the climate. If the overall temperature or weather patterns change even by a little, you'll see catastrophic localized results.
This is what bothers me about corporate greed
So individual greed is better? The company invests alot money and takes the risk in these inventions, lab space, equipment, materials, and salary are not free. For every one successful product, there are dozens of failed products. Further, the invention itself doesn't instantly net dollars, it requires further millions of investment to develop manufacturing techniques and capacity as well as marketing.
If your job is to invent things, you get salary to invent, whether the things you create net $0 or $1 billion. If you want a % of profits decide that up front in your contract, not after the fact.
Just because the discovery of giant stars gets all the press coverage, doesn't mean NASA isn't involved in fundamental science and research that may be applicable to the real world.
NASA provides a yearly list of spinoff products Also NASA doesn't have to create a new product that everybody buys to be useful. Better understanding of materials, new measurement techniques, or even new ways to model systems, all have practical benifits. The average person on the street may not care, but design or manufacturing companies could be interested.
You can browse the Technical Reports Archive and find alot of engineering research on things from Water Treatment to Evaluating manufacturing and assembly errors on rotating machinery