It's interesting this topic came up. My father likes Lotus 1-2-3 over excel and has some multi megabyte lotus worksheets at work that won't convert properly (due to some functions [this greatly anoys his boss who is MS's bitch]) into Excel (and he doesn't want to have to re-program them in). He also prefers lotus over excel. (no clipy, and doesn't do what it thinks you want to do, among other things). It's currently running along on 4 different machines. Two pentium 3's (one at work, one at home), a P4 (at home) and his laptop (AMD K6-2). He had me figure out how to copy it to CD (it's 5 floppies) so that he wouldn't have to worry about the disks wearing out.
He's far from being as competent about computers as most slashdoters, but is a guru compared to 90% of the population (probably over 99% if you just looked at his age group of 60+).
All those machines are running Windows (98/ME/XP). No compatibility problems to date so I don't know what the compatibility problems are. I wonder how many others still use Lotus 123?
The other problem I have with that quote is that I don't understand how we sacrifice our bandwidth for the corporate machine or anything. If we're part of a commercial service that uses torrents, then we're actually benefitting the other users, too. Once again, we all give and receive and therefore, get our files faster. Unless we'll be charged more for using 'advanced technology', then I see this as a benefit for the users more than the companies.
I think the logic goes somewhere along the lines of "We are paying for something that helps out a corporation" along with "helping a corporation lower costs is evil/makes us corporate shills". Personally, Im all for it. Especially if once I upload enough I get the game for free.
So, there would need to be some sort of distribution to all those servers BEFORE the Torrent goes live.
Unfortunate as it is, that just doesn't happen right now. So, someone out there would have to manage that proces
This is done on IRC for many releases. If something is popular, it gets distributed to 20 or so people with a great upload connection about an hour before release. Then, they all post the file to their servers at the same time. Keeps any one bot from being hammered too much. The initial process could be the same for bittorrent, they could even just use IRC for the initial blast out.
The tracker keeps track of how many seeds/leechers there are for a given torrent. Just use an integrated or SNMP (or something, truse me, this is trivial) connected seeder client that throttles upload bandwidth based on the number of other seeds and leechers and total bandiwidth of the network. I have seen networks where the total bandwidth is over 20MegaBytes/s. At that point, the main trackers could cut out uploading for a while and realocate more of it's outgoing bandwidth to torrents that aren't transfering as well, or where there is not a complete file out there yet.
The hard part is the dynamic management of upload bandwidth and making sure all the torrents meet the minimum network bandwidth.
The foam debris that hit the Columbia weighed a little over a pound from what I understand. It was also moving at several hundred miles per hour and very hard as it was "frozen" from the cooling of the fuel.
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Other than at the ISS, we won't have any platform for performing experiments in space, now that we're reseparating the cargo from its users. Wonderful idea, NASA.
Take that big cargo module from the heavy lifter. Make it airtight and stick an airlock on it. Fill it with air. Bingo, instant experimentation area.
Skylab was essentially a shuttle fuel tank that they didn't jettison on the way down and was modified afterwards as a space station.
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You do realise that the shuttle uses liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen and its waste product is water, right? Now, as I understand it water is naturaly occuring and non polluting and occupys the majority of the earths surface.
Now will you tell me what the hell you have been smoking that says that water in the atmosphere will cause damage to the environment? Cause if so, maybe we should get rid of humidity and clouds too.
I understand that there are some sizable forces acting on the launch vehicle, but how can insulating foam do so much damage?
Think about it this way. Q. How can a bullet do so much damage? A. It is moving very fast. The foam debris that hit the Columbia weighed a little over a pound from what I understand. It was also moving at several miles per hour and very hard as it was "frozen" from the cooling of the fuel.
If anything, digital piracy should be done at the State level. Maybe tried in both States the crime has been committed in.
Two problems with this. First, 5th Amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Second, the copyright violations they are getting prosecuted under are a FEDERAL CRIME not a state crime. As such they are investigated by the FBI and go to federal court, not state court.
1. If I were a restaurant owner, I would simply not allow that Consumer Reports person to inspect my kitchen.
Consumer Reports does everything anonymously, including when it purchases cars. The dealers/sellers/resturaunt owners have no idea who is buying or when the buying of their products is done.
2. What's to stop me from just paying a nice fat "consultation" fee to this Consumer Rating Company so they give me a good rating? (If you've ever been through ISO 9000 certification, you'll be especially aware of this little trick).
Consumer Reports refuses any and all compensation (even in the way of free goods to test). They get no money and no consultation fee from the manufacturers/producers/etc... Everything is paid for by the subscription fees.
3. Assuming I can find an uncorrupted for-profit Consumer Rating Company, it's going to cost me more than a non-profit governmental entity.
$26 a year for a subscription. As for cheaper? Depends on how you calculate it. Over all cost will most likely be higher. I can't think of anything the government has done that is cheaper than when a non-profit does it. As for how much you pay? That depends. If you are in a higher tax bracket it is going to cost you more than if you are in a lower one, if you even pay taxes at all. All said and done, I'd rather have it not part of the government for a variaty of reasons. Among others, because it keeps the government smaller and is not as easily affected by government corruption. Actually, on that note, name me one government agency (that has been around longer than 10 years) that has not had corruption in it yet. I'm sure I can find some non-proffits that haven't.
but if all that power's concentrated by a dish in the same direction you don't want to get in the way (if you want kids for example)
Or keep you eyesight. At work up on the roof we have a 30db microwave antenna. Total output power is only a few watts. After it goes through the 30db that is a pretty hefty boost in the density of the signal. It has been sugested to me by some of my coworkers not to go in front of it if I want to keep from going blind as the eyetissue is fairly sensitive to RF radiation.
Apparently the reason we don't have to worry about it with regular microwaves is either the different frequency or the shielding around it.
Can this bug survive in salt water? If so, it makes it easier since we wont have to supply it with de-salinized water. On the other hand, could it help in making a cheaper de-salinizing water process?
Wow, just read up on some sites that describe Finnish law. Now, as I understand what is being said, I can go out and kill 100 people and only get 12 years in prison? Or rape a whole lot of women and get the same?
Course, then there is the guy who was convicted of mollesting 445 boys and got 10 years in prison, which a lot of people here in the US would consider absurd.
That said, I know of some people here who would like to change the law so that we don't lock people up so much. For some crimes, such as rape, they would like to bring back hanging. For others, lashings. They think that would discourage people from commiting crimes more. Please note this in no where near the majority and by some people I do not mean many.
Specialized software like the power grid uses will be the issue. Most of this software will need large amounts of regression testing to ensure that the proper 23 and 25 hour days are handled.
Many of the packages are expecting the 1st Saturday/Sunday in April to have 23 hours and the last Saturday/Sunday in October to have 25 hours.
Do you really want the power grid to put into production a patch that hasn't been tested for many months ? ( Or do you want blackouts, or the cost to quadruple ? )
Why would power plants even need to know what day it is, much less what time? They monitor load, line frequency and what not. Why should they care what time of day it is much less what day it is or even what year (poke at Y2K bug)?
The main reason that we don't do such a thing to our citizens is that most countries that would want our people sent over to them wouldn't give them a fair trial, and that's not inherently because they're American. A Chinese is probably no more like to get a fair trial in Mugabe's Zimbabwe than an American.
And people wonder why the US is loathe to join the ICC.
That sentence sounds really absurd, Seventy years? Don't really know the US law, but I thought that in modern world there would be no sentences over 20 years.
Ummm... what country are you in? I'm more than a bit curious when you say "no sentences over 20 years." Lets start with murder (USA, 25 to life). Some US CEOs were just sentenced to 25 years for massive fraud. Drug dealers routinely get more than 20. So, not sure where you are from, but it must have lighter punishments.
My impression is what's keeping that order from being overturned is presnit monkey's thing against ter'rists. I think we can overcome the security problems associated with reprocessing, and that they aren't as big a deal as they would make you think (remember, in the last 20 years, only 3000 Americans have died in the continental US from terrorist attacks. We are a nation of 280 million. If that truly scares you, stop driving, it's much more dangerous).
Personally, I think it has very little to do with terrorists or oil interests or nuklear proliferation and much more to do with the anti-nuke lobby. Carter left office in the 70's. (too lazy to look up when) We've had ~30 years (and at least 4 presidents) to have it overturned and no one has yet.
If you take into account the food and other material value of the crop and assign the input energy used accordingly, then you've got a net gain.
Except the corn probably isn't good for anything after it has been used to create alcohol (except maybe for bear). I highly doubt you can eat what is left or feed it to pigs.
Think about that 60 watt lightbulb (or collection of lightbulbs) over your head. Do an interesting experiment and see how long you can sustain a 60W output on an excersize bike, or treadmill, or whatever. (Here's a hint: 60W is lifting 44.25 pounds 1 foot in one second. How many times would you like to do that in a hour?)
Seeing as how I go to the gym to use the bikes regullarly, several hours. Next question?
The big hangup in our fuel cycle is that it ends in the plants. We won't reprocess it. While increases the life time of the non-renewable resource, there are proliferation concerns.
main reason for this is president jimmy carter put out an execuitive order banning fast breeder reactors (aka reprocessing) from the US. All we need to do is overturn that. I expect that reprocessing the fuel will be cheaper than storing it as is. Much more environmentally friendly too.
Internet is becoming far too important for many countries to leave it under the control of a country in which we do not trust. Is that enough reason for you? It is for me.
Then name one you do trust. Cause I shure as hell don't trust any of them and I trust the UN far less.
I know some really liberal dems that hate her for no reason and would likly vote republican or not vote if she ran. And anyone I know moderate hates her bitterly.
Reasons why, since you are wondering:
From asking people from various states (VA,NJ,CT,NY):
Don't feel they can trust her
She abused the system to get elected from New York.
Don't like that she stood by her cheating husband (feel she should have left him [and this was the women saying this])
Think that she is a powermonger (sorry, best word I have for this) and in it only for her own ego trip.
The individuals I gathered this from range across the spectrum of the left/right. In addition, they do not always vote one way or another. I have also yet to meet someone that voted for her and/or likes her being in power.
I don't really think she even has the nomination locked down. I don't know who is planning on running but Edwards has a shot if he so choses, and a more refined Dean does too.
As someone who has voted republican in the last several elections, I would love to see Edwards on the ticked as I might actually vote for him. (I would rather have my choice between two candidates I like than the lesser of two evils). If the democrats want to pratically garuntee that I vote republican in '08 they will nominate Hillary for president.
Anything about why they wanted those log files? What did I miss?
It was for the Italians.
It's interesting this topic came up. My father likes Lotus 1-2-3 over excel and has some multi megabyte lotus worksheets at work that won't convert properly (due to some functions [this greatly anoys his boss who is MS's bitch]) into Excel (and he doesn't want to have to re-program them in). He also prefers lotus over excel. (no clipy, and doesn't do what it thinks you want to do, among other things). It's currently running along on 4 different machines. Two pentium 3's (one at work, one at home), a P4 (at home) and his laptop (AMD K6-2). He had me figure out how to copy it to CD (it's 5 floppies) so that he wouldn't have to worry about the disks wearing out.
He's far from being as competent about computers as most slashdoters, but is a guru compared to 90% of the population (probably over 99% if you just looked at his age group of 60+).
All those machines are running Windows (98/ME/XP). No compatibility problems to date so I don't know what the compatibility problems are. I wonder how many others still use Lotus 123?
The other problem I have with that quote is that I don't understand how we sacrifice our bandwidth for the corporate machine or anything. If we're part of a commercial service that uses torrents, then we're actually benefitting the other users, too. Once again, we all give and receive and therefore, get our files faster. Unless we'll be charged more for using 'advanced technology', then I see this as a benefit for the users more than the companies.
I think the logic goes somewhere along the lines of "We are paying for something that helps out a corporation" along with "helping a corporation lower costs is evil/makes us corporate shills". Personally, Im all for it. Especially if once I upload enough I get the game for free.
So, there would need to be some sort of distribution to all those servers BEFORE the Torrent goes live.
Unfortunate as it is, that just doesn't happen right now. So, someone out there would have to manage that proces
This is done on IRC for many releases. If something is popular, it gets distributed to 20 or so people with a great upload connection about an hour before release. Then, they all post the file to their servers at the same time. Keeps any one bot from being hammered too much. The initial process could be the same for bittorrent, they could even just use IRC for the initial blast out.
The tracker keeps track of how many seeds/leechers there are for a given torrent. Just use an integrated or SNMP (or something, truse me, this is trivial) connected seeder client that throttles upload bandwidth based on the number of other seeds and leechers and total bandiwidth of the network. I have seen networks where the total bandwidth is over 20MegaBytes/s. At that point, the main trackers could cut out uploading for a while and realocate more of it's outgoing bandwidth to torrents that aren't transfering as well, or where there is not a complete file out there yet.
The hard part is the dynamic management of upload bandwidth and making sure all the torrents meet the minimum network bandwidth.
Gah, just noticed the speed. Should read
The foam debris that hit the Columbia weighed a little over a pound from what I understand. It was also moving at several hundred miles per hour and very hard as it was "frozen" from the cooling of the fuel.
Other than at the ISS, we won't have any platform for performing experiments in space, now that we're reseparating the cargo from its users. Wonderful idea, NASA.
Take that big cargo module from the heavy lifter. Make it airtight and stick an airlock on it. Fill it with air. Bingo, instant experimentation area.
Skylab was essentially a shuttle fuel tank that they didn't jettison on the way down and was modified afterwards as a space station.
You do realise that the shuttle uses liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen and its waste product is water, right? Now, as I understand it water is naturaly occuring and non polluting and occupys the majority of the earths surface.
Now will you tell me what the hell you have been smoking that says that water in the atmosphere will cause damage to the environment? Cause if so, maybe we should get rid of humidity and clouds too.
I understand that there are some sizable forces acting on the launch vehicle, but how can insulating foam do so much damage?
Think about it this way. Q. How can a bullet do so much damage? A. It is moving very fast. The foam debris that hit the Columbia weighed a little over a pound from what I understand. It was also moving at several miles per hour and very hard as it was "frozen" from the cooling of the fuel.
If anything, digital piracy should be done at the State level. Maybe tried in both States the crime has been committed in.
Two problems with this. First, 5th Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Second, the copyright violations they are getting prosecuted under are a FEDERAL CRIME not a state crime. As such they are investigated by the FBI and go to federal court, not state court.
Social Security Administration. It is by far the tightest ship we run, and it's been around for decades.
Since the 30's, actually. That said: Examples of Social Security Fraud.
Next Example? This one appears to support my argument more than yours.
1. If I were a restaurant owner, I would simply not allow that Consumer Reports person to inspect my kitchen.
Consumer Reports does everything anonymously, including when it purchases cars. The dealers/sellers/resturaunt owners have no idea who is buying or when the buying of their products is done.
2. What's to stop me from just paying a nice fat "consultation" fee to this Consumer Rating Company so they give me a good rating? (If you've ever been through ISO 9000 certification, you'll be especially aware of this little trick).
Consumer Reports refuses any and all compensation (even in the way of free goods to test). They get no money and no consultation fee from the manufacturers/producers/etc... Everything is paid for by the subscription fees.
3. Assuming I can find an uncorrupted for-profit Consumer Rating Company, it's going to cost me more than a non-profit governmental entity.
$26 a year for a subscription. As for cheaper? Depends on how you calculate it. Over all cost will most likely be higher. I can't think of anything the government has done that is cheaper than when a non-profit does it. As for how much you pay? That depends. If you are in a higher tax bracket it is going to cost you more than if you are in a lower one, if you even pay taxes at all. All said and done, I'd rather have it not part of the government for a variaty of reasons. Among others, because it keeps the government smaller and is not as easily affected by government corruption. Actually, on that note, name me one government agency (that has been around longer than 10 years) that has not had corruption in it yet. I'm sure I can find some non-proffits that haven't.
but if all that power's concentrated by a dish in the same direction you don't want to get in the way (if you want kids for example)
Or keep you eyesight. At work up on the roof we have a 30db microwave antenna. Total output power is only a few watts. After it goes through the 30db that is a pretty hefty boost in the density of the signal. It has been sugested to me by some of my coworkers not to go in front of it if I want to keep from going blind as the eyetissue is fairly sensitive to RF radiation.
Apparently the reason we don't have to worry about it with regular microwaves is either the different frequency or the shielding around it.
Can this bug survive in salt water? If so, it makes it easier since we wont have to supply it with de-salinized water. On the other hand, could it help in making a cheaper de-salinizing water process?
Wow, just read up on some sites that describe Finnish law. Now, as I understand what is being said, I can go out and kill 100 people and only get 12 years in prison? Or rape a whole lot of women and get the same?
Course, then there is the guy who was convicted of mollesting 445 boys and got 10 years in prison, which a lot of people here in the US would consider absurd.
That said, I know of some people here who would like to change the law so that we don't lock people up so much. For some crimes, such as rape, they would like to bring back hanging. For others, lashings. They think that would discourage people from commiting crimes more. Please note this in no where near the majority and by some people I do not mean many.
Specialized software like the power grid uses will be the issue. Most of this software will need large amounts of regression testing to ensure that the proper 23 and 25 hour days are handled. Many of the packages are expecting the 1st Saturday/Sunday in April to have 23 hours and the last Saturday/Sunday in October to have 25 hours. Do you really want the power grid to put into production a patch that hasn't been tested for many months ? ( Or do you want blackouts, or the cost to quadruple ? )
Why would power plants even need to know what day it is, much less what time? They monitor load, line frequency and what not. Why should they care what time of day it is much less what day it is or even what year (poke at Y2K bug)?
The main reason that we don't do such a thing to our citizens is that most countries that would want our people sent over to them wouldn't give them a fair trial, and that's not inherently because they're American. A Chinese is probably no more like to get a fair trial in Mugabe's Zimbabwe than an American.
And people wonder why the US is loathe to join the ICC.
That sentence sounds really absurd, Seventy years? Don't really know the US law, but I thought that in modern world there would be no sentences over 20 years.
Ummm... what country are you in? I'm more than a bit curious when you say "no sentences over 20 years." Lets start with murder (USA, 25 to life). Some US CEOs were just sentenced to 25 years for massive fraud. Drug dealers routinely get more than 20. So, not sure where you are from, but it must have lighter punishments.
Ok, i'm wrong. Thanks for the link btw.
My impression is what's keeping that order from being overturned is presnit monkey's thing against ter'rists. I think we can overcome the security problems associated with reprocessing, and that they aren't as big a deal as they would make you think (remember, in the last 20 years, only 3000 Americans have died in the continental US from terrorist attacks. We are a nation of 280 million. If that truly scares you, stop driving, it's much more dangerous).
Personally, I think it has very little to do with terrorists or oil interests or nuklear proliferation and much more to do with the anti-nuke lobby. Carter left office in the 70's. (too lazy to look up when) We've had ~30 years (and at least 4 presidents) to have it overturned and no one has yet.
If you take into account the food and other material value of the crop and assign the input energy used accordingly, then you've got a net gain.
Except the corn probably isn't good for anything after it has been used to create alcohol (except maybe for bear). I highly doubt you can eat what is left or feed it to pigs.
Think about that 60 watt lightbulb (or collection of lightbulbs) over your head. Do an interesting experiment and see how long you can sustain a 60W output on an excersize bike, or treadmill, or whatever. (Here's a hint: 60W is lifting 44.25 pounds 1 foot in one second. How many times would you like to do that in a hour?)
Seeing as how I go to the gym to use the bikes regullarly, several hours. Next question?
The big hangup in our fuel cycle is that it ends in the plants. We won't reprocess it. While increases the life time of the non-renewable resource, there are proliferation concerns.
main reason for this is president jimmy carter put out an execuitive order banning fast breeder reactors (aka reprocessing) from the US. All we need to do is overturn that. I expect that reprocessing the fuel will be cheaper than storing it as is. Much more environmentally friendly too.
Internet is becoming far too important for many countries to leave it under the control of a country in which we do not trust. Is that enough reason for you? It is for me.
Then name one you do trust. Cause I shure as hell don't trust any of them and I trust the UN far less.
I know some really liberal dems that hate her for no reason and would likly vote republican or not vote if she ran. And anyone I know moderate hates her bitterly.
Reasons why, since you are wondering:
From asking people from various states (VA,NJ,CT,NY):
Don't feel they can trust her
She abused the system to get elected from New York.
Don't like that she stood by her cheating husband (feel she should have left him [and this was the women saying this])
Think that she is a powermonger (sorry, best word I have for this) and in it only for her own ego trip.
The individuals I gathered this from range across the spectrum of the left/right. In addition, they do not always vote one way or another. I have also yet to meet someone that voted for her and/or likes her being in power.
I don't really think she even has the nomination locked down. I don't know who is planning on running but Edwards has a shot if he so choses, and a more refined Dean does too.
As someone who has voted republican in the last several elections, I would love to see Edwards on the ticked as I might actually vote for him. (I would rather have my choice between two candidates I like than the lesser of two evils). If the democrats want to pratically garuntee that I vote republican in '08 they will nominate Hillary for president.