We are only just now starting to get the kind of primary storage space that allows the intermediate state of all those digital neurons to be kept around.
The brain contains about 100 billion neurons, but only 10 billion are gray matter neurons actually involved in thinking. Most research indicates that even 8 bits of resolution is enough to model neurons, but even we use 16 bits, that is only 20GB of "state". Even laptops have had way more than that for a long time.
A mouse brain has only about 7 million gray neurons. So that is 14M of state. Home PCs had that in the 1980s. So where is an AI that is as smart as a mouse?
The current version of Autopilot shipping with the vehicles is not self-driving. Future versions in development are full self-driving, and run on the exact same hardware. The additional power consumption is negligible. Most of the computing power is used for low level image processing, such as edge and gradient detection. You need that for lane control, but you don't need more of it for handling intersections.
You don't. Currently the only real limit of AI is computing power.
Nonsense. More computing power only gives you one thing: speed. If that was the only limitation, then we would already have "strong" (human level) AI, it would just be slow. But we don't have that, and we don't (yet) know how to create it.
Tesla Autopilot is not much more than lane keeping and auto cruise control.
The sensors are the same. The low level image processing is the same. There would need to be some additional processing to handle intersections, etc. but it would be like maybe 10% more, not 2000%.
Writing a section for the layman does not preclude writing another for the domain specialist.
Wikipedia does include a section for the layman: The introductory paragraph(s). Then the section below the "Contents" box goes into more detail. Avoiding excess jargon in the introduction is fine, and is mostly what Wikipedia does. Dumbing down the details is silly, because if you just want a layman's overview you should not be reading the details.
Nerds and normal people can co-exist. Wikipedia has the balance about right.
Really? These engineers didn't consider that processing power is constantly shrinking and becoming more efficient?
Also, the claim that SDCs will have computers consuming 2-4 kw seems implausible. Tesla Autopilot consumes WAY less than that, and is doing basically the same thing in terms of processing sensory data. Waymo will have access to TPUs that can process vision data eight times more efficiently than GPUs, which themselves consume no where near 2kw. There may be some heavily instrumented prototypes that have 2-4kw of computing power, but that doesn't mean the production version will do that.
not to do evil by at least paying their fair share of taxes around the world.
Nonsense. Google spends their money far more wisely than the government would. They are funding education, doing cutting edge research, and providing high quality free services to billions of people. The government would squander it on weapons designed for the last war, or more benefits for rich old white people.
That way, governments can [more] easily spare funds to educate.
That is not how they would spend it.
Thank you Google, for avoiding taxes, and for making the world a better place.
The point is usually I can't yet, because I can't understand the current explanation.
Just cut-and-paste the first paragraph. Then leave out the rest. We do NOT need to "dumb down" Wikipedia. If someone doesn't want the technical details, they can just STOP READING after the first paragraph.
For the electroweak interaction, the first paragraph is fine, and is all a non-nerd needs. If anyone continues to read, it is because THEY WANT THE DETAILS.
Wikipedia has plenty of problems, but "too much correct information" is NOT one of them.
We aren't all that close to it now, but someday, we will.
Sure, but for now human level AI is pure science fiction. When we finally achieve strong AI, it will change the world profoundly, and "jobs" will likely be the least of our concerns.
"Weak AI" and automation are currently having less impact than expected. Productivity growth has been stagnant in American and Europe. Where it is growing, as in China, it is mostly because of good old-fashioned manufacturing automation, and not automation of service jobs.
If you want to be sensitive, perhaps you should use the term that they prefer. A poll by the Census Bureau found that a plurality prefer "American Indian" over "Native American".
Disclaimer: I am a Scottish-Irish-Dutch-Bavarian-French-Cherokee-??? American. My Y chromosome is Scottish. My mitochondrial DNA is Dutch.
Just to clarify, while SF is pretty densely populated, it's barely 800,000 people, and average outside temperature is just 7 degrees below room temperature.
SF consumes only half as much electricity per household as the national average. This is another reason why the no-growth policies of the "progressives" are harmful. If more people could move to SF, and other locations with pleasant climates, carbon emissions could fall significantly. SF rejects more than 95% of application for residential building permits, and few people even bother to apply.
That will accomplish nothing. Equifax is already transitioning to different management. Shutting them down will just reduce competition even more and put 9500 people out of work.
Assuming the website is publically acecssible, of course it does.
Wrong assumption. They are "requesting" (demanding) that Dreamhost provide them with logs containing IP addresses of 1.3M people that merely visited the site (without participating in any discussion). That info is not publicly available. If it was, they wouldn't need a warrant.
Here is the relevant law:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Since there is no probable cause for 1.3 million people, the judge was right to deny the warrant.
I would have thought the people who knew about torrents were among the same people who use adblockers and NoScript.
People that use adblockers and NoScript want privacy. People that use torrents want free stuff. There is some overlap, but they are mostly different groups.
Rule 1 : Once you have their money, you never give it back.
Really. Until the money runs out, they continue to receive their salaries, and they keep the foosball table. What possible motivation would they have to give the money back?
Also, with SD, they don't have to develop full product. They can just get some key patents, positioning themselves for an acquisition by Waymo or Uber.
What is your point? This link confirms everything I said. Uber and Lyft left. Competition sprang up immediately (no new roads and no new cars were needed). Uber and Lyft returned (still no new roads needed).
We are only just now starting to get the kind of primary storage space that allows the intermediate state of all those digital neurons to be kept around.
The brain contains about 100 billion neurons, but only 10 billion are gray matter neurons actually involved in thinking. Most research indicates that even 8 bits of resolution is enough to model neurons, but even we use 16 bits, that is only 20GB of "state". Even laptops have had way more than that for a long time.
A mouse brain has only about 7 million gray neurons. So that is 14M of state. Home PCs had that in the 1980s. So where is an AI that is as smart as a mouse?
Tesla is not self driving
The current version of Autopilot shipping with the vehicles is not self-driving. Future versions in development are full self-driving, and run on the exact same hardware. The additional power consumption is negligible. Most of the computing power is used for low level image processing, such as edge and gradient detection. You need that for lane control, but you don't need more of it for handling intersections.
You don't. Currently the only real limit of AI is computing power.
Nonsense. More computing power only gives you one thing: speed. If that was the only limitation, then we would already have "strong" (human level) AI, it would just be slow. But we don't have that, and we don't (yet) know how to create it.
The sensor suite for automated vehicles is key.
Tesla uses 8 cameras, consuming less than 1 watt each.
So where are the other 1992 watts going?
Tesla Autopilot is not much more than lane keeping and auto cruise control.
The sensors are the same. The low level image processing is the same. There would need to be some additional processing to handle intersections, etc. but it would be like maybe 10% more, not 2000%.
The premise of TFA is nonsense.
Writing a section for the layman does not preclude writing another for the domain specialist.
Wikipedia does include a section for the layman: The introductory paragraph(s). Then the section below the "Contents" box goes into more detail. Avoiding excess jargon in the introduction is fine, and is mostly what Wikipedia does. Dumbing down the details is silly, because if you just want a layman's overview you should not be reading the details.
Nerds and normal people can co-exist. Wikipedia has the balance about right.
Really? These engineers didn't consider that processing power is constantly shrinking and becoming more efficient?
Also, the claim that SDCs will have computers consuming 2-4 kw seems implausible. Tesla Autopilot consumes WAY less than that, and is doing basically the same thing in terms of processing sensory data. Waymo will have access to TPUs that can process vision data eight times more efficiently than GPUs, which themselves consume no where near 2kw. There may be some heavily instrumented prototypes that have 2-4kw of computing power, but that doesn't mean the production version will do that.
not to do evil by at least paying their fair share of taxes around the world.
Nonsense. Google spends their money far more wisely than the government would. They are funding education, doing cutting edge research, and providing high quality free services to billions of people. The government would squander it on weapons designed for the last war, or more benefits for rich old white people.
That way, governments can [more] easily spare funds to educate.
That is not how they would spend it.
Thank you Google, for avoiding taxes, and for making the world a better place.
The point is usually I can't yet, because I can't understand the current explanation.
Just cut-and-paste the first paragraph. Then leave out the rest. We do NOT need to "dumb down" Wikipedia. If someone doesn't want the technical details, they can just STOP READING after the first paragraph.
For the electroweak interaction, the first paragraph is fine, and is all a non-nerd needs. If anyone continues to read, it is because THEY WANT THE DETAILS.
Wikipedia has plenty of problems, but "too much correct information" is NOT one of them.
We aren't all that close to it now, but someday, we will.
Sure, but for now human level AI is pure science fiction. When we finally achieve strong AI, it will change the world profoundly, and "jobs" will likely be the least of our concerns.
"Weak AI" and automation are currently having less impact than expected. Productivity growth has been stagnant in American and Europe. Where it is growing, as in China, it is mostly because of good old-fashioned manufacturing automation, and not automation of service jobs.
If you want to be sensitive about it ...
If you want to be sensitive, perhaps you should use the term that they prefer. A poll by the Census Bureau found that a plurality prefer "American Indian" over "Native American".
Disclaimer: I am a Scottish-Irish-Dutch-Bavarian-French-Cherokee-??? American. My Y chromosome is Scottish. My mitochondrial DNA is Dutch.
firstly that is a fail school if they stopped teaching cursive writing.
I haven't written a letter in longhand in at least 30 years.
I use block letters for the grocery list.
There is nothing else I write by hand.
My eldest daughter learned cursive.
This is the number of times she has used it since: 0.
It would make more sense to teach kids to shoe a horse.
secondly are you really claiming you need a chromebook to be able to have a keyboard and mouse?
No, not the only way, but likely the cheapest for a useful system (no a Raspberry Pi is a very useful system for schoolwork).
until November 2016, the Bill of Rights was considered a outdated relic that was irrelevant, but suddenly the Left turned 180 degrees
Not true. The left has championed the 4th Amendment for a long time, just as the right has long defended the 2nd and 10th.
He's still spouting off about America being "the highest-taxed nation in the world"
To be fair, this is true in an absolute sense. It is only when you look at percentages or per capita taxes that other countries pay more.
Just to clarify, while SF is pretty densely populated, it's barely 800,000 people, and average outside temperature is just 7 degrees below room temperature.
SF consumes only half as much electricity per household as the national average. This is another reason why the no-growth policies of the "progressives" are harmful. If more people could move to SF, and other locations with pleasant climates, carbon emissions could fall significantly. SF rejects more than 95% of application for residential building permits, and few people even bother to apply.
Equifax should be shut down
That will accomplish nothing. Equifax is already transitioning to different management. Shutting them down will just reduce competition even more and put 9500 people out of work.
does Chromebook serve any real purpose anymore when a good Android device can do everything it can do and more.
Chromebooks are widely used in schools. They are way better than tablets if you need to do a lot of typing.
In my neighborhood school, the kids start using Chromebooks in 3rd grade, and they now teach touch typing instead of cursive writing.
Assuming the website is publically acecssible, of course it does.
Wrong assumption. They are "requesting" (demanding) that Dreamhost provide them with logs containing IP addresses of 1.3M people that merely visited the site (without participating in any discussion). That info is not publicly available. If it was, they wouldn't need a warrant.
Here is the relevant law:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Since there is no probable cause for 1.3 million people, the judge was right to deny the warrant.
I would have thought the people who knew about torrents were among the same people who use adblockers and NoScript.
People that use adblockers and NoScript want privacy.
People that use torrents want free stuff.
There is some overlap, but they are mostly different groups.
Rule 1 : Once you have their money, you never give it back.
Really. Until the money runs out, they continue to receive their salaries, and they keep the foosball table. What possible motivation would they have to give the money back?
Also, with SD, they don't have to develop full product. They can just get some key patents, positioning themselves for an acquisition by Waymo or Uber.
Right but still no indication that Uber and Lyft will be any cheaper than a taxi once that point is reached.
Why would a car cost more than a car+driver?
But Uber and Lyft will need to own the cars if they convert to autonomous driving.
Do you mean just like Airbnb owns all those houses?
So you think the tech will be "hoarded" by the rich ... and that it won't exist?
But who are you renting from?
Uber, Lyft, Waymo, etc.
It has to be from someone with the capability and capacity to have a car ready just when you need it; even at peak times.
Uber and Lyft already have this working pretty well. Once drivers are out of the loop, it should get even better.
Because roads aren't infrastructure and cars are cheap!
Uber and Lyft do not build their own roads, and do not own the cars.
https://www.curbed.com/2017/6/...
What is your point? This link confirms everything I said. Uber and Lyft left. Competition sprang up immediately (no new roads and no new cars were needed). Uber and Lyft returned (still no new roads needed).