And Apple bills each of those users $25 per year...
Thats the whole point. The new music model is not pay per $file, it's charging by association. They (apple) don't care whether you listen to 1 tune or a million. Provided you pay your annual fee.
Of course they run a side business in making it pretty easy/convenient to get whatever tune you want added to your 'available library' for just cents. They've priced it to the point where ill often just buy instead of going to the trouble of scouring newsgroups for a decent copy.
Seems to be working pretty well for them, and the record industry *still* hasn't caught on. Talk about stupid...
The real farce is the legal system being abused by those with deep pockets to promote their own personal ends. I'm shocked and outraged such a thing would occur!
Probably about 840 hours worth. I can't tell if you think thats a lot or a bit. Seems like a lot to me. Reckon they could at least have looked over all the code they have in that time, and spotted anything basic like, you know, SQL injection...
Yeah sorry about the spain thing, I knew I was going to get tripped up by that!
We'll have to agree to disagree. One mans intuitive is another mans obstacle. Thats the real problem with UI design, you cant reach 100% of the people, but you have to design for everyone.
The Minority you don't reach will only ever consider a design that suits them. Sucks to be in the minority - but I would reiterate, once you've learnt the asterisk means AC (you could put AC on the button, or should that be AA for spanish, or maybe K for german cars!) you wouldn't then proceed to forget it when you switched car, or worse, every time you got out.
Thats what people do with Computer systems, thats why tech support staff get so jaded.
Billions of people don't drive european cars. I'm going to put it out there that in most european countries, (ie the main market for european cars) there is a broadly similar level of education. That education will include - right round the age of 6 or 7 (so it can hardly be a difficult concept) some information about weather. Are you telling me honestly that the spanish curriculum doesn't include anything about snowflakes. See I was under the impression it was a staple of any sound science curriculum. If it isnt you guys are missing out, snowflakes are pretty interesting subject matter.
Seriously though, you don't know what snow is? That's just silly. We don't suffer from hurricanes in the uk, but if some product - used a stylised hirrican icon to indicate something was really windy, I dont think it would b particularly hard to figure out...
The thing is you have to set a bar for minimum expectations, usually the bar is set pretty low. People really need to have a think about how it reflects on them when they claim the bar isn't low enough.
That makes perfect sense. My train of thought is, how can you possibly set an alarm unless you first *have* an alarm! I guess it's the assumption that you already have an alarm that might be the problem.
It remind me of when vcr's came out, and parents everywhere relied on their kids to set them. Then they invented video plus, total wtf to anyone who could operate a video... and yet...
In English, we use the word 'add', as in "add an alarm", but "plus" as in "4 plus 5".
Its not unreasonable to expect that words and symbols that are synonymous can be interchangeable in an abstract interface.
Plus and Minus, Add and Remove, Create and Delete... they are all the same, with computers you have to learn this approximately *once* then you are set.
The problem lies in the fact that people don't seem to learn, they just make the same mistakes, over, and over, and over...
This is the number one reason for doing it imho. The psychology part is a nice, but the 20million users who all paid, say, an extra $5 more than they would if they could buy things for the dollar price, is far more interesting to shareholders.
I get no acceptable use/throttling on virgin's top tier, and I gladly pay for it. I don't even download that much rarely over 100gig and usually more like about 20. Its about being able to get exactly what you want, when you want it and quickly for me.
In seriousness, this is the best thing they could do. The debacle that has been backwards compatibility of windows and ie in there various combinations has been horrible. Best thing to do is get all those grotty old windows/ie users upgraded. They are like people who drive around on modern rounds in clapped out unsafe jalopies. (oblig car analogy)
'If things are left to just be driven by market economics, we could end up with people paying for the amount of data that they consume to every device and that would not be a fair way to approach the market.'
I've never heard so much guff.
Charging for bandwidth is exactly how it should work. That's how it works in business, and its just dandy.
The problem will be that the telcos will pick a stupid price per GB
"Modem speed" is a funny term. I know you mean 56kbps, however the modem I am using is rated to well over 200Mbps.
In the 10+years I have been with Virgin (formerly blueyonder) on cable, I have always got well over 90% of the advertised speed. I *only* get about 4.5MBps at the moment, 100mbps is not available in our area.
Every single person I speak to that is on ADSL gets as low as 10% and at most 70% of their advertised maximum. I blame their setup though. I get about 80% on my BT businesss broadband connection in S1.
YMMV of course but thats the problem with anecdotal evidence.
Virgin are not perfect, same 'customer service' issues as any other company, but I take that as read in britain thesedays.
Check out cable forum, or the stats on speedtest to get a better sample size. Virgin (cable) are about the worst example of 'failing to live up to promised bandwidth' you can put out there.
Linear scaling certainly doesn't work if you surreptitiously introduce nuclear fission into the process.
I'm sure you probably also have a latin phrase for when you attempt to disprove A by arguing that the other person said B. I can't be bothered to google it.
I never said the spill was harmless. I suggested that it be put in perspective, rather than blown out of proportion.
I must admit I got slightly lost towards the end, are there any estimates/measures what the actual surface-oil / surface-gulf ratio is?
For my clarification are we assuming that 0.2ml is the total oil I would need to add to my tank, and that is based on the whole gom being covered?
Whilst its a few orders of magnitude more, it still seems like a 'drop in the ocean' so to speak. It would be an interesting experiment, I think I would take that risk too, I have a lot of faith in my tank's (and by extension the ocean's) ability to self heal.
It could possibly affect something in there (probably the clownfish, who would likely try and eat it!). Scaling that back up (seems only fair) that would likely represent quite a significant absolute loss.
Relatively speaking, it remains a very small percentage.
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In my experience easier, more reliable and always fills my pipe. ymmv.
more like 40 billion 404's ;)
And Apple bills each of those users $25 per year...
Thats the whole point. The new music model is not pay per $file, it's charging by association. They (apple) don't care whether you listen to 1 tune or a million. Provided you pay your annual fee.
Of course they run a side business in making it pretty easy/convenient to get whatever tune you want added to your 'available library' for just cents. They've priced it to the point where ill often just buy instead of going to the trouble of scouring newsgroups for a decent copy.
Seems to be working pretty well for them, and the record industry *still* hasn't caught on. Talk about stupid...
C-C-C-OMBO BREAKER!
The problem with parallel programming
is that things sometimes happen in the wrong order.
The real farce is the legal system being abused by those with deep pockets to promote their own personal ends. I'm shocked and outraged such a thing would occur!
"Hey you there, you look like you might have STUPAIDS. Quick! Inject yourself with this hypodermic needle who's contents are unknown to you!"
That might work?
Probably about 840 hours worth. I can't tell if you think thats a lot or a bit. Seems like a lot to me. Reckon they could at least have looked over all the code they have in that time, and spotted anything basic like, you know, SQL injection ...
Yeah sorry about the spain thing, I knew I was going to get tripped up by that!
We'll have to agree to disagree. One mans intuitive is another mans obstacle. Thats the real problem with UI design, you cant reach 100% of the people, but you have to design for everyone.
The Minority you don't reach will only ever consider a design that suits them. Sucks to be in the minority - but I would reiterate, once you've learnt the asterisk means AC (you could put AC on the button, or should that be AA for spanish, or maybe K for german cars!) you wouldn't then proceed to forget it when you switched car, or worse, every time you got out.
Thats what people do with Computer systems, thats why tech support staff get so jaded.
Billions of people don't drive european cars. I'm going to put it out there that in most european countries, (ie the main market for european cars) there is a broadly similar level of education. That education will include - right round the age of 6 or 7 (so it can hardly be a difficult concept) some information about weather. Are you telling me honestly that the spanish curriculum doesn't include anything about snowflakes. See I was under the impression it was a staple of any sound science curriculum. If it isnt you guys are missing out, snowflakes are pretty interesting subject matter.
"I have an Android phone."
Ahh, that explains it then.
Seriously though, you don't know what snow is? That's just silly. We don't suffer from hurricanes in the uk, but if some product - used a stylised hirrican icon to indicate something was really windy, I dont think it would b particularly hard to figure out...
The thing is you have to set a bar for minimum expectations, usually the bar is set pretty low. People really need to have a think about how it reflects on them when they claim the bar isn't low enough.
That makes perfect sense. My train of thought is, how can you possibly set an alarm unless you first *have* an alarm! I guess it's the assumption that you already have an alarm that might be the problem.
It remind me of when vcr's came out, and parents everywhere relied on their kids to set them. Then they invented video plus, total wtf to anyone who could operate a video... and yet...
In English, we use the word 'add', as in "add an alarm", but "plus" as in "4 plus 5".
Its not unreasonable to expect that words and symbols that are synonymous can be interchangeable in an abstract interface.
Plus and Minus, Add and Remove, Create and Delete... they are all the same, with computers you have to learn this approximately *once* then you are set.
The problem lies in the fact that people don't seem to learn, they just make the same mistakes, over, and over, and over...
Hmm, I like your thinking. Good spot.
This is the number one reason for doing it imho. The psychology part is a nice, but the 20million users who all paid, say, an extra $5 more than they would if they could buy things for the dollar price, is far more interesting to shareholders.
Brilliant. Making spam fun one post at a time :)
I get no acceptable use/throttling on virgin's top tier, and I gladly pay for it. I don't even download that much rarely over 100gig and usually more like about 20. Its about being able to get exactly what you want, when you want it and quickly for me.
This comcast deal sounds great for me!
In seriousness, this is the best thing they could do. The debacle that has been backwards compatibility of windows and ie in there various combinations has been horrible. Best thing to do is get all those grotty old windows/ie users upgraded. They are like people who drive around on modern rounds in clapped out unsafe jalopies. (oblig car analogy)
Steady on, rationality and reason only 4 posts in. Must be a record!
'If things are left to just be driven by market economics, we could end up with people paying for the amount of data that they consume to every device and that would not be a fair way to approach the market.'
I've never heard so much guff.
Charging for bandwidth is exactly how it should work. That's how it works in business, and its just dandy.
The problem will be that the telcos will pick a stupid price per GB
"Modem speed" is a funny term. I know you mean 56kbps, however the modem I am using is rated to well over 200Mbps.
In the 10+years I have been with Virgin (formerly blueyonder) on cable, I have always got well over 90% of the advertised speed. I *only* get about 4.5MBps at the moment, 100mbps is not available in our area.
Every single person I speak to that is on ADSL gets as low as 10% and at most 70% of their advertised maximum. I blame their setup though. I get about 80% on my BT businesss broadband connection in S1.
YMMV of course but thats the problem with anecdotal evidence.
Virgin are not perfect, same 'customer service' issues as any other company, but I take that as read in britain thesedays.
Check out cable forum, or the stats on speedtest to get a better sample size. Virgin (cable) are about the worst example of 'failing to live up to promised bandwidth' you can put out there.
self powered too?! its the future!
Linear scaling certainly doesn't work if you surreptitiously introduce nuclear fission into the process.
I'm sure you probably also have a latin phrase for when you attempt to disprove A by arguing that the other person said B. I can't be bothered to google it.
I never said the spill was harmless. I suggested that it be put in perspective, rather than blown out of proportion.
That is a very interesting point.
I must admit I got slightly lost towards the end, are there any estimates/measures what the actual surface-oil / surface-gulf ratio is?
For my clarification are we assuming that 0.2ml is the total oil I would need to add to my tank, and that is based on the whole gom being covered?
Whilst its a few orders of magnitude more, it still seems like a 'drop in the ocean' so to speak. It would be an interesting experiment, I think I would take that risk too, I have a lot of faith in my tank's (and by extension the ocean's) ability to self heal.
It could possibly affect something in there (probably the clownfish, who would likely try and eat it!). Scaling that back up (seems only fair) that would likely represent quite a significant absolute loss.
Relatively speaking, it remains a very small percentage.