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Comcast's 105MBit Service Comes With Data Cap
itwbennett writes "Comcast just announced the ultrafast, ultra-broadband 'Extreme 105' 105 Mbit/sec Internet service for an introductory price of $105, when bundled with other services. That's the good news. The bad news: Comcast 'put a data cap on the service of 250 GB per month — about five hours worth of full-bandwidth use,' writes blogger Kevin Fogarty."
We can't have them downloads our stuff at the speed of fiber all the time now can we ??
250 billion bits? That sounds as stupid as a republican opening her mouth !! Caps are ALWAYS given in bytes. Another hack without a clue is on the loose !! SAGA !!
250 gigs of data is their normal cap across the board.
Just be sure to get a business account when you're calling to get the new service hooked up. As they don't have a 250Gb cap and can actually cost less than a residential line if you haggle the dealer on the phone a bit ;)
Gbit or GB?
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But it isn't that bad.I haven't come close to maxing it out and I tried. I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
There is no speed cap and its the fastest internet available in my area so why not use it? It's not perfect but it beats DSL.
It's 250 GIGs per month. Got it?
That is plenty for me.
250 Gbit = 256 000 Mbit
256 000 Mbit / 105 = 2438 seconds, or roughly 40 minutes using the full bandwidth. Who would pay $105 for 40 minutes of internet usage!?
Not to mention that 250 Gbit is 31.25 GB, or roughly a single movie in blu-ray quality a month. I used much more than that, even when my connection speed was considerably slower than this, not counting downloads. I really hope Kevin meant GB rather than Gbit...
Do packages like this encourage piracy?
If you think about it, streaming services can only go so fast. If youre streaming HD video from Netflix 105Mbit/s sounds a bit like overkill. The same can be said for streaming audio. Your media will still playback one second at a time. However, 105Mbit sounds lightning quick if you think about it in terms of downloading content. There are paid services where you can get your media, but they have to limit your speeds. Thousands of people trying to grab files from a server as fast as they can has the potential to cripple the infrastructure
So, where is this speed most effective? P2P applications
The whole point is that it's ridiculous to pay $105 for five hours of Internet use.
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This isn't really news, all of Comcast's internet connections have had a 250 gigabyte per month cap. Not that I don't think it's bull, but it's not really new.
No reasonable way to use 250gb a month? Really?
Streaming HD is around 2gb/hr. Watch two movies per day (simple in a household) and you're looking at around 250gb.
Just because you and your grandmother only use it for email and printing out coffee cake recipes doesn't mean the rest of us do.
Sure there is: Netflix. YouTube. Online backup.
The fact that you can't come up with a reasonable way doesn't mean that there is no reasonable way.
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to be fair it's still certainly useful in that case. Someone who regularly uploads or downloads new iso os images for example.
Video teleconferencing etc.
They give you 105Mbit/sec, charge $105/month, but cut you after after five hours? Oh you marketing guys. You so silly.
HD podcasts, streaming music, streaming HD netflix, streaming video events, Steam downloads, VPN and VNC work, remote backups, gaming.
I'd be more interested in knowing how someone can *not* use 250gb a month.
If Comcast or AT&T were run by Italians in New Jersey, the feds would shut them down for running a racket. These caps are anticompetitive against online video providers and an obvious attempt to lock in users of their shitty over priced video services. 250 GB is a lot for now, but as technology moves, these caps will not and we will be screwed 3-4 years down the road.
The article stated "of 250 Gbit per month", thats not GB its Gb!
250 gigabits is about 31.25 gigabytes
I don't know about you but thats not much at all
250Gbit / 105Mb/s = "about five hours worth of full-bandwidth use". Since when? 250,000,000,000 105,000,000 250,000b / 105b/s ~= 2381s 2381s / 60s/m ~= 40m Either one of the numbers is wrong or his math is way off. Not that this paints a prettier picture. Then again: 250Gbit / 8bit/byte = 31,250,000,000 Who downloads 31Gb per month but doesn't get a dedicated line for the purposes? Well I can guess who - but even a typical blu-ray rip (not an ISO) is what.. 4GiB? That's still about 8 such movies in a month if you're into that sort of thing. If you really need the bandwidth -and- lack of cap.. get a dedicated line. This offer seems to be for people / small business who might need a high burst rate for certain things (i.e. on the phone, need to send a 50MB file being referenced, don't want to wait 2 minutes on the phone for receipt, etc.) but wouldn't typically hit the cap. As long as these caps are clearly advertised.. who cares?
with this service your browser will load a web page incredibly fast (no lag surfing) but good luck trying to download a Linux ISO on dvd (about 4.5 gigs)
oh, you actually want some content in your content?
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Downloads are around 10Megs per second on a good day, you can download all day for 5 days at this rate and still not max out the 250GB per month. You would would have to deliberately max your speed out all day every day for about a week before you max out the 250GB. Honestly I doubt many people would be able to do it if they were challenged to.
A HD movie on iTunes is 4.7GB down. One movie a day 30 days = 141GB. Now let's do some TV. 4 shows a day also HD ~1GB per. (22min for 3 and 1 40min show) that's another 4 GB * 30 = 120 GB and voila, 262 GB / month.
Not counting any YouTube, software, gaming, general Internet, skype or FaceTime, Flickr or anything else.
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How many movies do you watch a month? I do all of that stuff and I've not been able to max out past 200GB in any month.
HD podcasts, streaming music, streaming HD netflix, streaming video events, Steam downloads, VPN and VNC work, remote backups, gaming.
I'd be more interested in knowing how someone can *not* use 250gb a month.
Leave the house once in a while
Does Comcast's voice service (delivered via VoIP) count against this data cap? Does comcast's internet video services count? Because I will have a really serious problem if they don't count against the cap.
... coming from a company that made it into the final four of the worst companies in America? It took a company as bad as BP to knock Comcast out of the running.
Time for a car analogy.
The internet service provided by Comcast is a car.
105Mbits is the max speed of the car.
250Gbits per month is how much gas the car has.
With a normal vehicle, I can control how fast I can go. I can smash on my accelerator and burn off gas like a madman going 100mph. I can lightly touch the accelerator and keep myself right at 45mph. I can even coast in neutral and use basically no gas for periods of time. I have absolute control over how quickly I use my gas up.
How about on the PC? Web browsers don't come stock with bandwidth speed gauges. I don't have an onscreen display showing me how much monthly bandwidth I have left at any given time. Most modern web applications run at one speed: As fast as possible. Joe blow would be more sensible with his internet usage if the service providers gave him access to cheap QOS tools.
But all of that implies an interest in the well being of the customer. Yeah, I know. crazy.
No of course not. There are plenty of sites which make use of the speed. HDTV streams, youtube, the cloud.
The faster your connection the higher the quality of stream you can use, and the more HDTV streams you can have at once. So you can stream 4 HDTV movies at once without any pauses or slowdown.
FCC should require all ISP who use data caps to in include in their ads how many theoretical hours it would take to hit the cap at the max advertised broadband speed.
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WTF are you talking about. 250/(105/8/1000*60*60) = 5.5 hours.
Explanation: 250 is the cap. 105 is Mbit/sec; 105/8/1000 is Gbyte/sec; *60*60 is Gbyte/hr
250Gbit / 105Mb/s = "about five hours worth of full-bandwidth use". Since when?
250,000,000,000
105,000,000
250,000b / 105b/s ~= 2381s
2381s / 60s/m ~= 40m
Either one of the numbers is wrong or his math is way off.
Not that this paints a prettier picture.
Then again:
250Gbit / 8bit/byte = 31,250,000,000
Who downloads 31Gb per month but doesn't get a dedicated line for the purposes?
Well I can guess who - but even a typical blu-ray rip (not an ISO) is what.. 4GiB? That's still about 8 such movies in a month if you're into that sort of thing.
If you really need the bandwidth -and- lack of cap.. get a dedicated line. This offer seems to be for people / small business who might need a high burst rate for certain things (i.e. on the phone, need to send a 50MB file being referenced, don't want to wait 2 minutes on the phone for receipt, etc.) but wouldn't typically hit the cap.
As long as these caps are clearly advertised.. who cares?
You don't have a clue how young people use the internet. I'm guessing you've never been to the tube sites. You probably think the only way to download more than 30 gigs a month is piracy. If you watch HDTV on your computer, and each show is a few gigs, you will easily get up to 30 gigs in a month. You might even get up to 150 gigs. But you probably will not get up to 250 gigs.
As far as dedicated lines go, this service is meant to compete with FIOS and bring the USA up to speed with China, Japan and Europe.
I don't get why Americans think they are so entilted to unlimited broadband.
The rest of the world has had caps since day one.
Once upon a time I remember bandwidth caps were 1gb or 3gb a month on BROADBAND (cable or adsl.)
Now its 10gb for entry level, and 20gb or 40gb for higher users.
Common all over the world my friend.
Your caps are VERY generous. I wouldn't be complaining.
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I would say that the group of people who need 105Mbps probably has a rather large overlap with the 0.1% who needs more than 250GB/month...
It's kind of like leasing a car, and then complaining that you can only use it 6 hours a month. Yes, it may be technically true that if you drove it at its top speed of 150mph, you would reach the mileage limit of your lease in 6 hours. But it's otherwise basically irrelevant.
A HD movie on iTunes is 4.7GB down. One movie a day 30 days = 141GB. Now let's do some TV. 4 shows a day also HD ~1GB per. (22min for 3 and 1 40min show) that's another 4 GB * 30 = 120 GB and voila, 262 GB / month.
who the hell watches one movie and four tv shows per DAY? if it's you, turn off the tv and take a walk.
I've had 100Mbps fiber for 10 years now, at half that price... with no caps. One Gbps is the new 100 Mbps here.
I feel bad for Americans who are at the mercy of the duopoly who, for all practical purposes, control the internet in the US.
I have a similar service with the same 250GBytes monthly cap at 30Mbit/s and i come very close to max it, and already maxed it once or twice. Since then i'v been more carefull but annoyed since it was one of those advertised as an "unlimited" service.
How do i use more than 250GB? Software (Open source or "Demos" also some games from Steam and sometimes F2P mmo's that end up uninstalling very soon), music (radios on shoutcast or such), videos such as live broadcast news for example. I have at least one video news feed streaming in almost all the time. Sometimes more, with them muted momentarily to view and hear some debate on another source or relax to music.
So its not hard to max it at all. Try it and you'll be maxing it without realising.
In the UK, we only really have one cable company - Virgin Media.
They offer 10, 30, 50 and 100Mbit services - all "unlimited" (with an Acceptable Use Policy attached for people who constantly throttle their full connection). The kicker is they employ some pretty heavy traffic management. Download more than about 3Gb in the evening (between 4pm and midnight) and your connection speed gets cut by 75%. So the 30 becomes about 6 or 7mbit.
The thing is, you can still keep downloading as much as you want, it's just slower - so which system is better?
They also employ traffic shaping, so between the same hours (And ALL weekend), P2P and newsgroup traffic gets slowed by 75% as well, no matter how much you're downloading.
It's a bit of a ridiculous catch. There are some decent DSL providers that have no usage limits, but they can only offer an "Up to" connection that can do 24mbit, but you're more likely to get about 8mbit (on average), whereas on Virgin you'll get the speed you signed up for (until traffic management/shaping kicks in). So /.ers which would you rather have, obscene traffic management or hard caps?
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What I was talking about was already pointed out by others while I was typing my post - but seeing as I have to wait half an eternity to post another comment, the following didn't get included 15 minutes ago:
Right. 250GB. Gigabyte. That's what I get for even double-checking by reading the blog post:
250Gigabyte cap does result in 5 hours. On the other hand, it also results in a 250Gigabyte cap.
That's not 8 BD movie tips. That's 62 BD movie rips.
Now I really don't understand what the fuss is about and I stand by my earlier statement... if you want that 24/7, no cap, get a dedicated line.
And given that there is this posting frequency limit... I know perfectly well how people use their connections. People who watch YouTube all day long or fully use their Netflix account - not just piracy. I get that. But for those people, perhaps a lower speed account with a higher cap (or 'fair use policy' type cap) would be more appropriate?
I don't download a lot, but when I do, I want that file 30 seconds ago. Even at 100 Mbit/s a 2 gigabyte file takes almost 3 minutes to download if you max out your line. I hate waiting, even if it's just 3 minutes. In the same vein, I also want connections that are tuned for low latency, even under load.
I'd consider getting that plan. It all depends on what happens after you exceed 250 GB/month. Do they slow you down? Bill you for overages - how much? Or even outright cut you off. Do you get to carry the excess GB over each month? (Dream on...)
Why are you judging? Maybe he has more than one kid? One child is watching the new pixar movie, while another is upstairs working on a online college course that has them running through some online lectures.
Then, you have the Mom, who is a work at home mom and has to constantly keep up-to-date with their training materials.
Now, this mom that works from home, always has to have some type of white noise in the background so jumps onto a hulu channel herself.
250GB is easy to burn through if you are single, and EVEN EASIER to burn though if you are married and have kids.
I'm on an 8Mbit connection as that is the fastest I can get around here. There's no data cap or anything, not even a fair use policy (something that has been used a lot here in The Netherlands). I download around 1.2 TB per month. So even on my connection I max out your cap in less than a week. You say it isn't that bad but I would never get a connection with a cap as low as that. Especially if I would have such speeds available.
What you are missing is that an internet connection is generally shared by everyone in the apartment/building, i.e. the whole family. Split those movies and tv series on four-six persons and it doesn't seem overkill at all.
While obviously not slashdot readers, anyone with teenaged kids can easily find themselves in that type of position - while they might not each watch a movie per day, when you take a couple kids watching a different movie each every few days, or watching different tv shows, in addition to the usage that the parents are using. Heck, my 5 and 7 year old don't watch the same shows - the ones the 5 year old likes are too babyish for the 7 year old, and the ones the 7 year likes are too scary for the 5 year old. Then add in streaming stuff for us to watch... You can very rapidly hit the required number of viewing hours, if you remember that you don't all have to be locked in a single room, watching the same stuff all the time.
Try Hughesnet "broadband" -- daily cap of under 400 Mb. Can't even update my phone much less stream anything.
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108 gigabytes for 1 day duh, 5 days at 10mbits = 540 gigabytes.
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I doubt it's really 250 gBIT...... it's gotta be 250 GBYTES.
250gBIT is only about 32gigs, so there's no fuckin way that's right.
how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
Rsync.net. Why do you need 100 mbits/second if you're not really going to use it?
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The coward is right with his typo: there is one reasonable way anyone can use their 250GB/mo 105Mb/s service, to download one uncompressed hd video in four hours. There are no two reasonable ways, once you have used up your one reasonable way for the month, you are SOL.
Just put a 1 megabit/sec camera feed on it and you're over.
FWIW within Japan you get similar insane speed but again a similar 300GB cap as far as I know.
Not that I have ever run into such a cap. But it may affect a video application I'm planning now.
If they would just give a clear service menu as to what it costs to get the real thing.
But that would be like a contract that lets you run your own ISP and would likely be at least twice the price.
Feels good to have Fiber with no cap. :)
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I'm glad you have it right, it's 250GB, not 250Gb. When I had comcast it was 90GB, and I still only got one letter for abuse of the AUP. You have to be a hardcore downloader to go over the cap. You can watch streaming video every day and still download several, uh, ISOs and still be fine. Maybe you can't watch streaming HD video all day every day but like, get a fucking life.
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Buy this car! It can go 300 mph! But only for 250 feet. Then you have to stop and shut it off until next month. Unless you want to pay extra. You can always pay more!
HD podcasts, streaming music, streaming HD netflix, streaming video events, Steam downloads, VPN and VNC work, remote backups, gaming.
I'd be more interested in knowing how someone can *not* use 250gb a month.
Seriously? You think everyone uses a quarter ofna terabyte of transfer per month?
That's useful. Thanks comcrap.
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this isn't true. I promise. My own comcast says 250GB limit in my account settings on their account portal.
What I found out by calling them, however, because I have gone over so many months to 400 and 500GB, and wondering why I haven't been charged or cut off, was explained to me:
THe 250GB limit is just a guage on their site to show you what you should normally stay underneath. Their actual unpublished "cap" is set at 600GB per month.
call Comcast yourself and ask.
No, they simply support the new wave of everyone streaming their content from places like netflix, pandora, amazon, etc.
Of course if you do this you get penalized, but that's not my point.
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Ridiculous.
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Most of these 20++MBit/sec are not intended for use by a single connection. In fact most circuits will have bottlenecks somewhere down the line that prevent you getting anywhere near your nominal data rate on a single connection. These deals are intended for multi-user (i.e. families) where the children are playing Wii, downloading "art", video chatting etc. and other people are watching a streamed movie and backing up their work - all at the same time. It's surprising how much bandwidth that all sucks up and if it's a nightly event then, yes: you can hit the monthly cap very quickly, when you have 5 people hacking at it for several nights a week.
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Whenever I come across the weekly article on slashdot that brings up the data cap debate, I always see the same comments:
"Ohh, who would ever come close to this cap of x? I never come close!"
That's great, it's difficult for one person to reach that cap alone... but what happens when there are more people in the house using the internet too?
I'm a student that lives with 5 other students, and with all the youtube we watch, online games we play, and other things we do on the internet instead of homework or sleeping, I'd say that we could easily exceed that limit, and that's with minimal p2p use.
Although, I can't wait for internet that fast to be offered. 105mbps / 6 means that video streaming speeds won't take a peculiar dip at 11pm.
I have yet to discover the root of this problem.
Caps to me are still the real issue. I say that because once you have any decent broadband connection it is typically going to be 'fast enough' for an average end user. Most end users are not downloading an ISO a day or something to that effect. In fact since most if not all end user pipes are not even close to full duplex they are not really that much good for anything but normal end user type stuff.
Now I will throw in the caveat that as you add more users to a connection clearly that is when a bigger pipe will help. But that still brings us around to again the real issue, caps. With more users you are running even a bigger risk of going over a cap if you are using what the modern internet can do. Streaming, online gaming, downloads, smartphones/tablets switching over to Wifi mode when they are in range, and of course all of the standard stuff like email/web/IM/etc.
Caps are something that need to be seriously regulated as it is not like we have a lot of options when it comes to our broadband options. They should be pretty damn high as in you really would be having to running full bandwidth for a week straight out of a month.
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Whatever happened to sending the kids outside to play soccer or some make-believe game? No wonder this nation is so overweight and no one knows how to socialize when people whine about not having enough bandwidth to consume this level of TV watching. I let my kids watch about an hour of TV a day, tops. Then the damn thing gets turned off. If they complain about being bored I tell them I'll happily put a puzzle together with them or get the chess board out or put on the baseball glove. If anyone is consuming 250GB a month on a regular basis with gaming and media, you need to seriously take a hard look at your life and get out the door every now and then. The ISPs in this country would do the healthcare system a serious favor if they would all put a 10GB/month cap on everyone's internet usage. (This is hilarious: I'm turning into my dad!)
Comcast is a bit ridiculous on their data caps and pricing.
Having worked for a small-business ISP in the past, the cost of bandwidth doesn't match up to the cost in services that Comcast provides. It's a matter of fact that Comcast's rates well exceed cost and reasonable business profit of 20%.
If you use a resold bandwidth model of in/out of $0.18/$0.08, your costs should be about $65.00/mo per 250GB up and 250GB down. However, if you own your own infrastructure, those costs are significantly reduced. I'd estimate Comcast is spending no more than pennies for their bandwidth and are making an absolute killing on internet services.
I've contemplated going back into the ISP field, but this time as an owner. I imagine that a lot of customers see these rates and caps as nickel and diming, and people are sick of it. I'm sick of it.
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How do you use 250GB/month? Have a family and you'll find out. It becomes REALLY easy to bump against the cap if you ditch cable and buy all your TV shows from iTunes.
Maybe you don't need tons of data all the time, maybe you just need chunks of data really fast?
also deadpanning on how the node is setup up / how many people are on it you may have a hard time even getting to 105MEG download speed.
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A buddy of mine has six heavy internet users on a 10MBit pipe. Believe me, with all of them wanting to stream video, download torrents, play music, etc. they'd exceed the cap in no time.
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...I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
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Maybe I'm the odd man out here, but my roommate and I were averaging 2 TBs/month for roughly a year. Between gaming, video streaming, BitTorrent, and file transfer and software development on the computer science departmental machines at our university this didn't seem like a big deal. After doing the math, though, I am much happier with our service than I was before. Turns out we were, in fact, getting roughly 6 Mbps all the time.
Streaming HD is around 2gb/hr. Watch two movies per day (simple in a household) and you're looking at around 250gb.
Comcast would rather have you use its On Demand offerings. Netflix? Apple? Youtube? Hulu? Those are all competitors.
HD podcasts, streaming music, streaming HD netflix, streaming video events, Steam downloads, VPN and VNC work, remote backups, gaming.
I'd be more interested in knowing how someone can *not* use 250gb a month.
You could try stepping outside once in a while?
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But it isn't that bad.I haven't come close to maxing it out and I tried. I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
You give up broadcast TV and just use and have more than one person use Netflix and Hulu.
Also, my kids definitely watch less TV than we did. I'm afraid they still get just as much or more "screen time," but game consoles, flash games, and web surfing have really cut into TV time, and all use less much bandwidth than streaming video.
It does seem odd that Comcast's super-premium service has the same cap as every other tier, but it's not a very restrictive cap.
Actually it says 250G*bit*, so 250/8 = ~31.25GB/month.
;) ) / 15 Gbit up. Plus free webspace, domain name, ability to open port 80 and 25 for web hosting, and best of all, no capping that I know of.
I'll stick with Cablevision's Optimum Ultra. An extra $50 a month on top of their Boost plan (30down/5up) for 101Gbit down (where do you think that 105 came from?
But, either way, thank goodness for competition.
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You're retarded if you can't cap it out. I hit about 150gig a month with my 3MB/s connection. If you want to cap out that connected get go download the top 5 torrents on the pirate bay and let it sit for about a day. You'll be way over your limit guaranteed. If you want to make it all legal, get the top 5 linux distros. You'll still cap it out.
how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
640K of memory should be enough for anybody?
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A lot of anonymous cowards claiming that it's unreasonable to go past 250 GB even with a 100+ Mbps connection.
As someone who has a 100/100 Mbps connection this seems weird, I can easily use more bandwidth than that in a month. Hell, on a few occasions I've used more in a week. And that's only downstream.
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But it isn't that bad.I haven't come close to maxing it out and I tried. I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
You're doing it wrong!
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They're stating the cap is 250Gb, not 250GB. That's 31.25GB per month, which seems pretty small.
When I download a upgrade to my Ubuntu system I never get a download speed greater than a hundred thousand bytes per second.
If you're getting low-end-DSL download speeds from your chosen Ubuntu repository mirror, perhaps you need to choose a different mirror. It's unfortunate that apt-get can't download from multiple mirrors at once.
All it takes is two Netflix streaming users in one household. Right before the cap started Comcast opened a reporting page to show us our average usage for the previous three months. I had hit the cap on all three months, even if for month three I cut down my torrent usage down to zero. That means we hit our cap just watching streamed video. I ditched Comcast (22/8, not that it ever performed at that level) for FIOS (25/25 for $5 per month, always performs beautifully) and never looked back.
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Wasn't the 300GB cap _per day_, not per month? And only on upload, too?
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All this talk of the data cap... what consumer grade router is even capable of utilizing that speed? How about any consumer OS? This is a marketing stunt and nothing more... or is there a slew of GigE WAN port consumer routers that can actually handle the routing at these speeds that I'm not aware of?
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I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
I can think of a few ways:
Yes, it is certainly possible for someone to hit a 250GB cap, if they are not "just another consumer." What is the point of getting so much bandwidth if you are not going to put it to good use?
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So it's like paying monthly for a Ferrari then after only a few miles the tires are falling off the car ??!!?
That was kinda my take on this. Yeah, caps are stupid but geez. Turn the damn things OFF for a while.
Off course, there are many activities that include up / downloading data for things other that personal entertainment but it strikes me that some folks have an unhealthy obsession with staring at LCD screens (righteously typed on a computer in the basement).
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I've downloaded over 600GB this month on a 50Mbit line. I usually average around 350-450, but I had a hard drive crash and lost a lot.
I used to get high on life, but I developed a tolerance. Now I need something stronger.
Me and my girlfriend have a 175 GB cap with a 50 Mbps connection and we regularly butt heads with the cap. We each use 80-90 GB/month. Though I tend to use more. I've used about 40 GB in 10 days. Pre -download of portal 2. Redownload of Empire total war, those combined put me to 26 GB and it took me about 2 hours. Somewhere in there I bought Magika, I can't remember how big it was though. I still haven't actually accomplished anything useful with my internet and I'm pushing mid 30's of GB, and I still have 20 days left in the month, and that's just me. Then I have any code I'm working on, or more to the point the art assets that go with it, movies, music etc. We're in canada so while netflix is here, it's simply not an option. Though she (my GF) uses a number of sketchy video downloading sites to watch TV and movies 'on demand' that eats up a lot too. I expect to hit a couple of GB for a world of warcraft patch as well.
One of my co-workers (who is sort of half my boss) has his wife and two mostly grown kids at home. He's similar to me in terms of use, movies, games that sort of thing. So are his kids. He's easily pushing 350, 400 a month.
For me the biggest culprits are old (say 1-3 years old) games, that are on sale on the various online retailers. They're still the same size as todays games more or less, but for 5 bucks I can buy a lot more of them than at say, 50 also a year after release all the patches are done which mean games that might be kinda broken on release are actually pretty decent. Either way there's a lot there.
how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
Backing up a single hard drive over the internet. To The Cloud!
And Comcast's own downloads use the exact same wires too, so they can't even claim the cap is about infrastructure limits. Locking out the competition is the only possible explanation for it. This should be addressed the next time local governments negotiate franchise-monopoly agreements. Ultimately, all of this is happening because your government is doing it. Not just allowing it, but participating in it. We The People are saying Comcast should forcefully be given an advantage over their competitors. Don't agree? Then maybe you aren't part of We The People.
You could try stepping outside once in a while?
And ruin my naturally transparent skin?
You know, they do make protective equipment for that, called a thobe. It's a sack that fits over your shoulders and reaches to your ankles, with sleeves for your arms. Then add a cap to keep the sun off your face. Alvin Seville has the right idea.
By getting hooked on a TV series on Netflix or Hulu. For me it was streaming 6 seasons of Nip/Tuck HD, and I live alone. I couldn't image how much bandwidth a family of four could go through in a month consuming video.
I go over the cap almost every month, I have not received a warning for going over, but I suspect it may be due to the fact I am under contract for 2 years of service.
Netflix streaming on multiple devices will eat that cap away.
http://speedtest.net/result/1232680921.png
I go over the cap almost every month, I have not received a warning for going over, but I suspect it may be due to the fact I am under contract for 2 years of service. Netflix streaming on multiple devices will eat that cap away. I rarely download files. http://speedtest.net/result/1232680921.png
Why is this being reported as if it were news? Comcast currently maintains a 250GB "soft cap" on ALL of their broadband services - why would they suddenly make this new plan exempt?
I call it a "soft cap" because I have gone over on several occasions, sometimes in excess of double the cap, and never heard a word. I think the cap is in place mainly for those users who would constantly go over it month after month.
Comcast "customer" care sucks, by all rights - and their cable tv is outrageously overpriced. But for most people, its the best deal available (price/speed/cap). Until someone else steps up and starts competing, I doubt that will change.
I am generally unhappy with comcast, but if there is one thing I am NOT unhappy with it is my rock solid internet connection.
FWIW, YMMV, Obviously, Depending on Location. I live in Skagit County, Washington State.
As someone who has a 100/100 Mbps connection this seems weird, I can easily use more bandwidth than that in a month.
I only have 25/15, and over the past two years I have averaged 270GB/month in download. That's about 800Kbps, or 0.75% utilization on a 100Mbps line. It's only 3% on my line, so it's not like it's "busy".
Seriously... This post is not accurate, working for a cable company myself I can tell you we limit in GigaBytes, not gigabits... I am sure the poster didn't know better and thus posted in confidence but after this one I am sure he/she will get the facts right before posting and creating such an uproar next time. In fact, more often than not people have no idea that there is actually a difference between bits and Bytes.
8bits = 1 Byte -> 1024Bytes in a KiloByte -> 1024 KiloBytes in a MegaByte -> 1024 MegaBytes in a GigaByte -> 1024 GigaBytes in a TerraByte...etc.
Typically MB (capital 'B') mean Byte whereas Mb (lowercase 'b') means bit.
Although I agree to an extent that Comcast is not fantastic "comcastic", but the when facts are incorrect it just creates confusion and frustration to all.
In my companies case the 100Mb (Megabit) connection has a 350GB (GigaByte) limit downsteam and separate 350GB limit upstream. This particular company charges $1 per additional GB, first offense you would just get a letter, second offense they charge you the $1 per GB over.
Average Netflix movie is 2-3 GB (GigaByte) It really takes a lot to hit this limit, IE:Bottorrent running constantly could possibly exceed the limit. It is rare that we have subscribers going over our limits...
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great! now we can pay triple or four tines as much for a service thats available in rural villages in france and the UK . america has shit internet for a country thats supposedly so well off. wake me up when 105Mbs is bundled with phone and television. for 40 or 50 bucks a month. oh , and comcast can eat a fat one.
like a man without arms, you can't hang......
But it isn't that bad.I haven't come close to maxing it out and I tried. I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
I have exceeded Comcap's cap on a number of occasions. It's really quite easy. I can do it in less than a week even on their slowest tier of service. Think bitorrent. The average recompressed 1080p movie from TPB is 8-12 gigs. The average computer game is also between 8 and 12 gigs. If you assume a fair 1:1 upload:download ratio that means your real download cap is about 125 gigs which is about 10 movies/games per month. But often my UL:DL ratios are higher than 1:1. More like 2:1 which means I might just barely be able to download 7 games/moves with bittorrent. Oh wait, were you thinking in terms of just checking email and web browsing? Yeah. Paying a huge premium for higher download speeds makes a lot of sense for that. Page loads aren't even necessarily faster with higher tier service.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
My family of five probably hits that average easily. We have different tastes, so we watch different things. There are 7 devices that could be pulling down this data in the house right now.
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
so say we all.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
250GB is easy to burn through if you are single, and EVEN EASIER to burn though if you are married and have kids.
Exactly. Just like water, phone, electricity, heating fuel, food, etc.
Which just goes to show that the fix-price-with-caps model is stupid with today's technology. A low entry fee with sensible usage fees is the only pricing model that will make sense until end-to-end fiber is the norm. At that point, when we can get 20 TB plans for an ounce of silver per month, then fixed rates will probably make sense. We just don't have the technology to handle that yet, and prices most efficiently allocate scarce resources.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
rsync.net is awesome, the most clueful provider of space there is.
My tubes outside office hours are stuffed with traffic to rsync.net too.
Just because you and your grandmother only use it for email and printing out coffee cake recipes doesn't mean the rest of us do.
Grandma would appreciate on-demand coffeecake videos, if the technology were made accessible to her.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
And its been that way for quite some time now. Not news.
But it'd be nice to have a higher cap for these higher bandwidth services.
I watch several hours of streaming video a day, have a bunch of computers and game consoles in the house that use the internet, and we run around 100-120GB a month. The only time I came close to the 250 was the couple of months that I downloaded a lot of very large torrents...
FUCK YES let's stand up for our rights to... what exactly? I am not totally following the source of the moral outrage - you're upset that Comcast has one specific offer you don't like? Or maybe you're pissed you have to pay for it? Clarify.
250Gigabyte cap does result in 5 hours. On the other hand, it also results in a 250Gigabyte cap.
That's not 8 BD movie tips. That's 62 BD movie rips.
Now I really don't understand what the fuss is about and I stand by my earlier statement... if you want that 24/7, no cap, get a dedicated line.
You have you ever actually ripped a bluray? The resulting mkv file is typically between 25 and 35 GB in size. If you have some way of just downloading them via the internet (like say via usenet) that would mean less than 10 movies before you hit the cap. Not 62. In the real world you would probably download the movies via p2p which typically means a commitment to 1:1 UL:DL ratios. So your 10 bluray rips become only 5. Checking back with reality again it can be seen that most movies available for download have been recompressed to half to one third size. Most 1080p rips are 8-12 GB. Assume an average of 10. If you combine that with your 125 gig effective cap (1:1 p2p) and you can download about 12 bluray movies per month or one movie every 2.5 days with comcap. That is easy to do even on the slowest tier of service. So this new offering is useless.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
Fed Ex charges you more for two things: weight/size and speed of delivery.
Comcast charges you more for two things: amount of data and speed of delivery.
Confusion?
I do not respond to cowards. Especially anonymous ones.
That's all. They most definitely do not have the infrastructure to offer 105mbps to more then a few customers per neighborhood, that's why they make it so expensive/useless. It's for marketing, not actual service.
Still better than my current 120GB cap on a 30MBps connection.
As long as Comcast makes the cap clear in their advertisements, I don't care what the cap is, even if it's 1GB/month.
If you want unlimited data, you can get it elsewhere, but you've gotta pay. In many cities, you can get metro ethernet for around $3500/month for 100Mbit - and this is with true unlimited bandwidth, you can stream 100Mbit downstream *and* upstream all day long and they don't care.
99% of comcast customers are never going to hit their 250GB cap, and that's who they want to sell to. If you want to download 5 TB of data every month, they don't want you or your money.
I dropped Comcast long ago when they first added the 250Gb data cap - went with FiOS and couldn't be happier. The first month I had it I downloaded and uploaded several Terabytes of data just to see if they would ping me - not a whisper. That is a service where you pay for something and they deliver - that is the free market. Commie-cast is usually the only game in town so you're stuck with their garbage - so call Verizon and keep asking when FiOS will be in your area.
As far as dedicated lines go, this service is meant to compete with FIOS and bring the USA up to speed with China, Japan and Europe.
If that's true then they have failed miserably. FIOS is uncapped. With my FIOS connection I can download and upload at around 4.3 megabytes per second all day every day for as long as I want.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
I don't think that's good news at all. Apart from the data cap, $105/mo is a LOT of money. And, that is bundled with other services which means even more money. Where is our 45 Mbps bi-directional for $40/mo that we ALREADY PAID for? http://www.newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm I'd much rather have that than 105/10.
You're retarded if you can't cap it out.
Sure, I could scp example.com:/dev/urandom /dev/null and let it sit, but in terms of useful transfers, I only download an OS ISO once every 6 months at most, and since this is Comcast service we're talking about, Comcast assumes you'll be watching their content, not downloading pirated videos. If you download the top five Linux distros, even assuming they're DVD ISOs, that's just 20GB.
Let's look at the more realistic transfer problem: Let's say someone has paid for one of those online backup services, and the have 251GB of data (compressed) on their drive. When they start the backup service, they'll need to upload 250GB or less the first month, then start their incremental backups to catch the rest (and any changes from the previous month).
It's clear you don't live in a city. Probably in the suburbs.
OTOH, you are definitely right about it being a cause of overweight. But "outside" makes assumptions about what outside is like. On the street that I live on, ball is impossible, because it's mainly up and down, but at least the traffic is low. Other areas nearby have other problems...traffic being a common one, and everybody has a small yard. (Ours is larger than most, mainly because it's largely up and down. There's a park down the street and around the corner, and it's actually pretty good. But occasionally there are gangs there. It's been around a decade since there was a shooting. But parents might want to think a few times before letting there kids go there unescorted. (Depending on their age, of course. Most 12 year olds would have enough sense to leave if things started to get unpleasant...but can you say the same about either 8 year olds or 14 year olds?)
Suburbia is really a very different country. Or at least it was a few decades ago. The parks are fewer, but the yards are a lot bigger, and it's generally safer. (Even there, though, it seems to me that the average speeds at which cars are driven have increased, the traffic has gotten denser, and it's become more dangerous to ride a bicycle.) Suburbs seem to be in the process of turning into rather unpleasant cities. New dwellings either have no yards or have much smaller ones, and parks aren't getting any closer together. However the one's I'm familiar with are still nicer places than cities. Also lots more expensive...and not just in the initial purchase, but in the upkeep. Once you buy there, you probably need to resign yourself to a long commute in dense traffic. And gas prices aren't likely to get any cheaper. So it's going to cost you a couple of hours every work day and the fuel for your vehicle while you sit in traffic. Still, if you can get an older house, it's worth a lot to be able to say to your kids "Go play in the yard!". But don't presume that everyone lives in that same situation, as most people don't.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Colossal ignorance should not be excused as a typo. The author of the article has no clue what a gigabit is, and neither does the poster of the story. The slashdot editors do, but they like to let such errors go so as to generate heat.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
No.
Many here have servers hosted in datacenters; I have several at Linode.com. $30 per month gets you 300GB transfer per months in addition to the actual server access. I don't know what the data rate is, but I usually get about 30 Mbps. Note that this service, in a data center, does NOT have unlimited transfer. And I don't expect ISPs to offer unlimited transfer, but I do expect value for my dollar.
That said, the caps should not be the same for every plan. It doesn't make sense to offer the same cap for the slowest and fastest data rate plans. At the very least, they should increase with the tiers. If I had my rathers, you could choose the balance of data rate and cap for a certain price point. And even more so (probably not feasible with the tech), you could configure the download and UPLOAD data rates.
Exactly this... I was thinking that this would be great for a cheap home server solution but alas, comcast is a little bitch and caps it at 250gbytes. That's not that much internet :( I really enjoyed the analogy that was given earlier. *scroll up a bit or copy and paste "tuna"
100 Mbit costs 30 EUR ($43) here in Germany - KabelBW. Where does horrendous rate of $105 come from?
Because you occasionally burst to that speed, rather than hitting it for hours at a time?
Has *anyone* actually hit this 250 GB limit, and if so what were you downloading? I'm on a 22 Mbps Comcast plan and a pretty heavy Internet user, and I haven't ever come close to their limit.
Unless the summary is mistaken, it's 250 gigabyte cap, not 250 gigabit. That is the same as my standard cable. I use what I think to be unlimited internet, and usually use less than 100 gb a month.
That is a pretty big mistake to say, is it 250 Gbit or Gbyte?
I average 900gb a month ...
But it isn't that bad.I haven't come close to maxing it out and I tried. I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?
There is no speed cap and its the fastest internet available in my area so why not use it? It's not perfect but it beats DSL.
I disagree.
I had comcast, and I gladly switch to qwest dsl.
Sure, my speed is lower, but I do NOT get stupid fishing notices saying I download copyrighted materials. I do not get hassles over the fact that I used a lot of bandwidth every month.
250gb cap? Ya. I can download more then that in a month.
I liked 720p & 1080p movies. Easy 5-10gb each there. Games? Good 5-10gb each there, usually about 5-6gb though. I play eq2, have 3 account, play 5 accounts alot, so boom, got info coming down the line for 5 accounts, probably not a whole huge amount, but i play every day.
Oh, shit, is that copyrighted crap I am downloading? Yes. Do I care? No.
Not sure if you noticed, but the studio's get richer, they used what is morally wrong accounting to justify ripping peeps off. They do not pay their actors/musicians decently, and all the huff and puff about copyright is stealing is the biggest bunch of bullshit around.
Fuck them, and anyone who pays for their bullshit. At least, thats my take on it.
And that being said, I have peeps who trade me $5 worth of goods for each AVCHD copy of a Bluray movie I do for them. Which is funny, seeing as if the movies were like $10 each, the person already told me he wouldn't have a problem buying them, but pay $20 each for something he might watch once? Fuck that. And thank you for giving me something to barter with.
The point is, I pay for my internet, I use it how i want, and the ISP can fuck off regarding that.
Bad enough you took away usenet, dumbass's. Honestly, I would of left usenet, put it on a seperate pipe and let peeps use it to their hearts content without it affecting other users. But it's not about how much data is being downloaded as it's about how much extra money can we get out of our suckers, er, customers.
Be seeing you...
It depends. At a certain point more speed just means things download in less time, not that you use more bandwidth. Over time you might find new ways to use that bandwidth that maybe you couldn't or wouldn't use before and that's when the cap becomes an issue.
Now, where did I put that 105mbit Ethernet card... I swear I bought just the other day at the Chinese store for a ridiculously great price. They even threw in a free cat5i cable.
Don't complain, where I live, my 15mbit/s connection I can burn my 20 gig cap in about 3.5 hours.
then you should write a script to track your bandwidth usage and, on the last day of the billing cycle, use up the remainder of your usage cap up to 99.9%. So on the last day if you've already used 50GB then your script will spend the day using up the remaining 199.9GB for a total of 249.9GB. Now, distribute this app to everyone you know and some people you don't know and everyone on slashdot and install it on your grandmother's pc.
> 250 gigs of data is their normal cap across the board.
250 GigaBYTES of data is their normal cap.
250 GigaBITS of data is 1/8th of that.
-- IANAL, this isn't legal advice, and definitely isn't legal advice for you. Also, Squee!
These usage caps are a devolution of the internet here in the US plain and simple. The ISP's did this shit with dial up until competitors came along and said here's all the usage you can have. Of course with dial up you don't need to have your own infrastructure other than having the connection going out. Now these larger ISP's know they have people by the balls because building new infrastructure takes a ridiculous amount of money. If I were google I would wire the country with fiber to the premises and then offer unlimited usage. If they could do that then you would be looking at the first company to have a market cap over $1 Trillion dollars. In this day and age there is no reason to cap usage. For example I have AT&T DSL (Fuck them, and it's the only option here for high speed. Time Warners line terminates 1/4 of a mile from my house go figure...) and I currently have the 6 Mbps Down/1Mbps Up plan and on a monthly average right now I'm always pushing close to the 150Gb cap. I download maybe 2-3 movies a month if that...I spend most of my time surfing and watching SC2 cast's and that alone is almost enough to bust the cap. Believe me the first day that there is another option I'm going to take it. Fuck these greedy companies.
"I'm using the 105Mbit service"
I guess maybe it improves upload speeds and decreases latency. That's $75 more a month than basic broadband from Comcast.
"I don't know, how exactly do you use more than 250GB in a month?"
You've got the service and you're asking? If you don't know, why did you buy the extra speed, just to brag? You do know you have the same download cap as the basic broadband users supposedly do, right, despite having the premium service?
Freaking speed limit despite having a supercar, and unlike speed limits which have a safety and practical purpose like keeping things in order, there isn't much need for that low of a download cap when you're paying the extra bucks for.
Stories like this just shows Comcast often doesn't have a clue when it comes to broadband. I was surprised they had this service and was thinking about looking into it for uploads and syncing, but reading the cap, wtf. I guess maybe if you upload lots of video, or frag all day, but still, I don't buy a Porsche or an M5 to run only on a dyno. It's getting to the point that these companies and complicit government types are THE reason why the US sucks so badly in the broadband market compared to other supposed top flight countries (I say supposed not because of the other countries, but because we in the US shouldn't be considered one).
That's the problem I have - except I'm backing up ~2TB of media. I luckily haven't received any sort of rude notes from Comcast and I've uploaded way more than 250GB this month (I started about three weeks ago and I'm almost halfway done!) - presumably because it's all going over port 443 instead of some random bittorrent port. The biggest problem for me right now is upload speed. Even if I were caught up, I can easily create 5-10+GB of content in a day through photography and that alone will usually take a couple days up upload.
How are sites slashdotted when nobody reads TFAs?
To sell high-speed service with a data cap you can blow through is a total fraking (BSG reference) joke!
The punchline of this fraking joke is that while they complain that Data Hogs destroy the experience for everyone else on your shared cable loop, all of those problems just magically disappear the moment you are willing to pay a 2X to 3X higher monthly amount. No changes to the hardware at all - just a bigger check to the cable company. Like I said - Fraking Joke!
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Be honest. What are you spending hundreds of dollars a month on Comcast that you couldn't get for a fraction of the cost somewhere else.
Comcast is raping it's customers, and don't even add anything to the service. There no technical innovation at Comcast whatsoever. All Comcast brings to the table is a few NHL and NBA teams games. That's it.
Comcast is nothing but legalize theft from consumers.
At least the cap's way up there. Me, being out in a rural area, I'm stuck with satellite internet, $60 a month, and only 225 MB per day, which is under 7 GB a month. I get near that limit every single day. Big difference between 7 and 250. Can't stream Netflix movies, that kills bandwidth. Can't watch YouTube for two hours, that kills bandwidth. Can't do webcams on chat, that kills bandwidth. I understand the whining that Comcast's caps aren't high enough, that there are situations where you easily go over. Fine. Try living out in the boonies then. I think it'd be far better to improve satellite internet and improve internet options in rural areas rather than making rich people with fast connections go even faster.
Bell Canada is introducing a new service class called Fibe 175 very soon. 175Mbit down, 30Mbit up. But they're putting a data cap on it. Ready for this? 100GB per month, combined up/down. Yeah, you can actually break the cap in well under an hour if you try.
Comcast has had that same data cap for all of their internet speed tiers for years. How this made news is beyond me.
Almost three years ago I contracted with Comcast for business class high speed internet here in the home. I was forced to go business class to get fixed IP numbers, even as few as five. The service has been so miserable I can't even stomach describing it. But the only alternative in my subdivision to comcast is verizon, who did't bother to lay fiber here and still want $39 per month for 1.5Mb Downward 384Kb upward DSL. I have been paying about $105/mo for a fraction of 105Mbit service all this time, and my anus is sore from the experience. Getting into that contract with them was a mistake I will never forget. I am starting to look at taking my notebook to an internet cafe if I need to download something. You can buy a lot of coffee for $100 a month.
dunno, the point of having ultra fast is that then you can find more uses for it, like streaming high fps hd?
but the 105mbit sounds just like a number pulled out of somebodys a, and with the cap it's meaningless, you'd have the same experience with 50, does it ever even max out? can you turn a bandwidth test on it? you can't even test it for a day if it's what they're saying they're delivering to you, because you would max out
and actually you can be made to use that quite easily(unless it's nat, which would suck even more), don't piss off any teens off in cs..
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
What is your Newegg link supposed to be? Is it a referral link?
Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control.
Please tell me where in the Comcast footprint there is FIOS 25/25 for 5$ month? And who provides that service.
Or is that 5$ more than you were paying? In which case, what is the FIOS price?
Those who can, do.
That's great if you happen to live in Verizon territory, moreover one that Verizon hasn't abandoned.
I average 280GB per month. The vast majority of it comes from netflix streaming to my xbox attached to the TV in my living room. I have no TV reception and don't want to pay 60+ for cable. Maybe 60 GB combined comes from other sources such as file transfers between work and home or the like.