Well, you're answering the question he asked, but not the question he actually wants the answer to: "what is the best working environment for a developer that costs no money and gives me the illusion of absolute control over all of the slackers who I know are spending all of their time goofing off on Facebook and Slashdot and playing video games and die you lazy bastard programmers"
So... you're saying that if somebody disagrees with you, that means you're right? By your logic, then, you consider the people who say that it isn't a problem, right.
Yeah, I take any accusation of "sexism" from a woman with a grain of salt. They often aren't even referring to anything especially serious, even in their minds - they might overhear a co-worker complain about his nagging wife, or hear somebody say "manpower" instead of "person power" and think, "welp, there goes that 'workplace sexism' again". To too many women, sexism just means "anything I don't like".
I now have to constantly browse at -1 because poor modding often results in the most insightful and worthwhile comments ending up at -1
I don't know that I've seen too many insightful (or even useful) comments at -1, but I browse at -1 because otherwise the threads don't make any sense: somebody posts a top-level comment, it gets downvoted to -1, and 50 people respond to tell him why he's wrong. With browsing set at 1, all I see are the responses.
Shit. I had to reset my work login password just before going on vacation for a week. Couldn't remember what the heck I had reset it to when I got back, had to ask IT to reset it for me. I can absolutely believe that somebody could have forgotten a password.
What if it isn't even actually encrypted? "I see a lot of files on here that aren't.mp3,.jpg or.gif files, they have weird extensions like.class. They're obviously encrypted, decrypt them and show us the illegal stuff they're encrypted as!"
I generally assume that this is the case whenever I hear about this sort of thing (that they're making it sound WAY worse than it actually is). Inevitably I turn out to be correct.
I'm with you. I've never understood why so many programmers are so offended at being asked relatively straightforward questions. I think that the people who don't do well in those types of interviews would be better off in technical liaison roles like project, project or release management rather than hands-on coding.
That was my first thought, too - if this is successful, it may change the nature of "programming", but won't obviate the job classification. What it WILL do, which CASE tools, and UML, and DSL's, and "AngularJS" and every other miracle time-saving product did, is convince people who don't know how to use those tools that a) programming is easy-to-trivial and b) should be more or less a minimum-wage type of paper-pushing task. The reality is, all of these things actually end up making programming mentally harder, because you have to understand what those tools are doing on your behalf in order to troubleshoot them when they don't do what they should have done, but I don't see that resonating with the Illiterati that are running the show these days.
I tried that in America right after graduation. I changed jobs about once a year (after boredom set in) and after four years, it caught up with me - suddenly nobody would talk to me because I was a "job-hopper".
You're giving hiring authorities too much credit, assuming that they can tell good candidates from bad ones. They look at: a) where you went to college and b) the reputation of the companies that you've worked for in the past. Beyond that, they'll bring you in for a couple of string-reversal-on-the-white-board brainteasers.
I interviewed for a position with a major airline a few years ago. The job listing had a long laundry list of qualifications - probably about 15 or so "required" skill sets, and another 15 "preferred". I had every single one, required AND preferred. Plus a Master's degree in CS. Plus prior experience in travel. Airline specifically. They phone screened me, brought me in for an onsite, brought me back for ANOTHER onsite... and then never got back in touch. Something fishy's going on.
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Well, you're answering the question he asked, but not the question he actually wants the answer to: "what is the best working environment for a developer that costs no money and gives me the illusion of absolute control over all of the slackers who I know are spending all of their time goofing off on Facebook and Slashdot and playing video games and die you lazy bastard programmers"
So... you're saying that if somebody disagrees with you, that means you're right? By your logic, then, you consider the people who say that it isn't a problem, right.
Your anecdote isn't data. ... it's absolutely a systemic issue. anecdote after anecdote confirms it.
Yeah, I take any accusation of "sexism" from a woman with a grain of salt. They often aren't even referring to anything especially serious, even in their minds - they might overhear a co-worker complain about his nagging wife, or hear somebody say "manpower" instead of "person power" and think, "welp, there goes that 'workplace sexism' again". To too many women, sexism just means "anything I don't like".
So should it be illegal to offer people shitty jobs?
Well, that is the logic behind minimum wage laws.
I now have to constantly browse at -1 because poor modding often results in the most insightful and worthwhile comments ending up at -1
I don't know that I've seen too many insightful (or even useful) comments at -1, but I browse at -1 because otherwise the threads don't make any sense: somebody posts a top-level comment, it gets downvoted to -1, and 50 people respond to tell him why he's wrong. With browsing set at 1, all I see are the responses.
I was shunning you until just now. Bet you didn't notice.
will it transform into not suck?
Shit. I had to reset my work login password just before going on vacation for a week. Couldn't remember what the heck I had reset it to when I got back, had to ask IT to reset it for me. I can absolutely believe that somebody could have forgotten a password.
What if it isn't even actually encrypted? "I see a lot of files on here that aren't .mp3, .jpg or .gif files, they have weird extensions like .class. They're obviously encrypted, decrypt them and show us the illegal stuff they're encrypted as!"
How in God's name is that supposed to make meetings less annoying?
I generally assume that this is the case whenever I hear about this sort of thing (that they're making it sound WAY worse than it actually is). Inevitably I turn out to be correct.
You think they care. That's cute.
They should be coding on a "people of color" board.
Unfortunately, that's the only sort of thing that gets taken seriously in 2017.
I'm with you. I've never understood why so many programmers are so offended at being asked relatively straightforward questions. I think that the people who don't do well in those types of interviews would be better off in technical liaison roles like project, project or release management rather than hands-on coding.
That's what happens when you get married.
Well, that's true in the same sense that turning off your computer mitigates vulnerabilities... without admin rights, nothing works in Windows.
That was my first thought, too - if this is successful, it may change the nature of "programming", but won't obviate the job classification. What it WILL do, which CASE tools, and UML, and DSL's, and "AngularJS" and every other miracle time-saving product did, is convince people who don't know how to use those tools that a) programming is easy-to-trivial and b) should be more or less a minimum-wage type of paper-pushing task. The reality is, all of these things actually end up making programming mentally harder, because you have to understand what those tools are doing on your behalf in order to troubleshoot them when they don't do what they should have done, but I don't see that resonating with the Illiterati that are running the show these days.
Whoosh!
I tried that in America right after graduation. I changed jobs about once a year (after boredom set in) and after four years, it caught up with me - suddenly nobody would talk to me because I was a "job-hopper".
It is *always* a good candidate's market.
You're giving hiring authorities too much credit, assuming that they can tell good candidates from bad ones. They look at: a) where you went to college and b) the reputation of the companies that you've worked for in the past. Beyond that, they'll bring you in for a couple of string-reversal-on-the-white-board brainteasers.
"Younger people are just smarter"
cheap employees
Not just cheap, but willing to work 70-80 hours a week. Never taking time off to look after a sick kid or go watch their little league game.
I interviewed for a position with a major airline a few years ago. The job listing had a long laundry list of qualifications - probably about 15 or so "required" skill sets, and another 15 "preferred". I had every single one, required AND preferred. Plus a Master's degree in CS. Plus prior experience in travel. Airline specifically. They phone screened me, brought me in for an onsite, brought me back for ANOTHER onsite... and then never got back in touch. Something fishy's going on.