I Like Gnome 3 quite a lot. I just fits my work habits really well:
* Alt+Tab (and Alt+Key-above) works just as I really want them to work. Perfect * Dynamic virtual desktops concept is perfect for me * Minimalistic look. I really hate when toolbars are full of icons, and every place is full of things. * Desktop overview is good & easy (or whatever it is called, where you can manage your windows, and launch new programs etc.) * Extensions!
I have only few problems with Gnome 3 - one being that gnome-tweak-tool should really be included by default.
My second favorite is Awesome window manager. I've also tested Xmonad and Kde quite extensively for several weeks, but Kde is way too "stuffed" and confusing for my tastes, and Awesome seems to be better fit than Xmonad for some reason.
Finland was not actually part of Axis - at least not fully. They fought with German against Russia, and they received quite significant help from German though.
"Co-belligerents
Various countries fought side by side with the Axis powers for a common cause. These countries were not signatories of the Tripartite Pact and thus not formal members of the Axis."
How it should work? Or how one expect its to work?
There is big differences here. For me, Gnome 3 way works perfectly (ALT+TAB walks all applications in all workspaces, ALT+key above walks current application windows).
This is different than traditional way, but which one is correct?
Yes true. I can get KDE 4.8 to suit to my tastes and to work with my workstyle but it requires lots tweaking. Way more that to get Gnome 3 usable for me.
Btw, I did fresh Opensuse 12.1 KDE install to test some KDE things there, and here is some observations from that.
KDE settings are somehow unlogically placed on different categories. Quite hard to find (in Gnome 3, they are not existing, so you need to use dconf-editor...). Either is good.
1. Nepomuk wont die. Even if you disable it. In Opensuse, you cannot uninstall it because it is part of kdebase. Removing nepomuk things from/usr/share/autostart doesn't even prevent them starting up. Uninstalled all akonadi things, then deleted/usr/bin/nepomuk*. Done! 2. Active window glow is horrific. Disabled it immediately 3. All windows have way too many buttons/icons (5) in titlebar. Usually I only need one (close). Tweaked 4. Cashew is there sitting on desktop, and no easy way to get rid of it. ihatecashew should work here 5. KMenu is little bit irritating. For example, when shutting down the machine, you will need pleothra of clicks to get it done. This I could get used to though, same way as I can get used to Gnome 3 menu system. 6. Dolphin toolbar is awful. Okular is even worse with multiple toolbars. Again, I want my toolbars to have only 2-4 icons which I use most. Tweaked. Big plus for ability to get the toolbars to left side of the window instead of the top. 7. Single-click to open items is not good for me. 8. Focus follows mouse is must. 9. Empty black background without icons.
In default Gnome 3 installation, I did steps 3, 5, 7,8 and 9. Too bad in Gnome 3 I did not found a way to have application toolbars on left instead of top
If I try to remove nepomuk, it wants to remove all kde as well. On my Ubuntu machine I actually did just that you suggested, which then meant goodbye to my KDE installation. Do you have better option?
Just to test this, I did install Opensuse 12.1 to my virtual machine. Within default installation, nepomuk cannot be disabled (it still runs even after disable + reboot). In Opensuse, nepomuk is part of kdebase package, so removing this would remove KDE altogether too.
Oh. I meant Application toolbar, not the one on desktop. Because on KDE 4.8 by default, application toolbars are too cluttered by default. Customization is of course an option.
I will download and try newest Opensuse. I haven't tried that long time.
I don't care at all about KDEPIM applications or search. I am using recall as search, and that works beautifully for me, and indexes just whenever I want it. So, Nepomuk has been really pain.
Yes, best thing about KDE is its tweakability. And then if I hit my head to thing I cannot tweak of properly (like the cashew or nepomuk starting whatever I do) it really bothers me a lot. It should not force anything if everything is about customization options, right?
On my desktop, I want absolutely nothing. Nada. No icons, no picture. Only thing on my desktop has is pure black colored background. If all its functions are accessible via KMenu/panel, why then it needs to be on desktop? KMenu can be autohidden, that thing cannot.
Yes. I like my toolbars to only have the buttons I really need. Which is about 2-4 icons, maybe sometimes even 5 at maximum. So, I need to configure every toolbar to my liking.
Also, I want my desktop to be clean. Usually there is nothing there. Only way to disable it was to install "I hate cashew". If there is any other way, it was not told anywhere. I really hated it so I wanted it gone.
In clean install of KDE 4.8, there seem no configured virtual desktops by default, only several activities. Those can be easily configured and added to panel but that was the default. It seem that KDE folks really try to promote activites.
As I wrote, even if I disabled Nepomuk, it was always starting and running. Those two clicks did not help. Searching from forums, somebody told that there is some application explicitly starting it. So I disabled all KDE mail/calendar/whatever things, and still it started. Then, I deleted the executables. And in clean install, I did notice it.
The thing is, people are complaining that Gnome forces them to use it Gnome-way, without a way modifying the thing. But, KDE does lots of same things, and no-one complains? Sounds unfair to me.
(I am using Awesome window manager normally, not Gnome. But I prefer Gnome 3 over KDE 4.8 if I would not use tiling window manager)
KDE is NOT doing perfectly sensible decisions. I have tried it multiple times and here is things that annoy me most:
1. All toolbars are full of crap by default. Way too much icons and things. I want it clean and nice. 2. There is "Activity Cashew" button in desktop which cannot be removed easily. 3. I tried the new Activities, and so far they are totally useless for me (and yes, I did read long tutorials from net to try to get them). And by default there is no virtual desktops. 4. Nepomuk is useless crap if you are not using those KDE applications like mail/calendar. And it cannot be easily disabled (even I disabled it everywhere, it still started up). Manually deleting executables did help.
There is lots of totally redundant cruft installed by default, at least in Ubuntu 11.10, with KDE 4.8 ppa. Why I would need two file managers for example?
It was way worse experience than default Gnome 3. I did get it workable by doing lots of configuration, but it was not "perfectly sensible" defaults!
I have been using Gnome 3.2 since Ubuntu 11.10 came out. So far I have been liking it quite a lot, it feels really natural and clean way to work. Before Gnome 3, I have been using Awesome & Gnome 2 desktops for years.
Gnome 3 extensions seem to be really easy to install, just two clicks and that was. I was already using some via ppa's, but this seems nicer.
Now, just if I can get automatic window tiling extension Gnome 3 would be perfect (there is manual tiling extension available, and one automatic one, but it is still buggy). Also, there is some small bugs in Gnome 3 still, but nothing earth-breaking anymore.
In past years, I have been using lots of different window managers. And still I run at least - LXDE, Awesome, Gnome3, Unit. I have always been quite flexible for using different ways of work, so I don't have any problem switching from Gnome 3 to Kde, or from Gnome 3 to Awesome - just short while of getting used to it and that's it.
I usually try out all new Desktops/Window managers which interest me, and run them for an week or two on my main laptop.
There is room for different Window managers/Desktops out there. I don't understand why there must be hate for one. Just switch to another one, it is your choice.
down), I think my only real complaint is the insane OS X-alike modal application launcher buttons. (The launcher buttons change behaviour depending on whether there is another window from that application already open - if there is no other window open belonging to that app the launcher buttons open a new window, but if that application has other windows open, the launcher button simply raises all of them. i.e. if I have 15 terminal windows open and I click the terminal launcher button to get another one, it will instead raise all 15 of those windows to the foreground. This is totally nuts - as a user I don't want to have to look to see if an application is running before clicking a button in order to know what that button is going to do. If I click the application button it means I want a new window; if I wanted to switch to an existing window I would've used the window switcher; and I *never* want to raise all windows belonging to a certain application at once.)
You can use middle-button or right-click/New Window for that.
But, there is interesting difference: if you click terminal launcher with middle mouse button, it opens it on new workspace. If you click it with right mouse button and select "New window" terminal starts on current workspace.
Why is that happening? I usually want it always to start on current workspace.
Agreed. Inbound connections should be blocked by disabling all unnecessary services which open listening ports. If service is not needed, then it should be disabled. If it is needed, then access to that service is probably needed too. Problem is, that in Windows it is impossible to disable certain listening ports.
Outbound connection blocking is much more valuable - if the malware is not clever enough to disable local firewall, it cannot open outbound connections.
You cant exploit a service you cant communicate with.
And I'm not talking about email-attachment exploits as these should be handled by the anti-virus software.
The machine where the thumbdrive is inserted is probably going to be hosed, but the rest of the machines on the network have a chance to avoid it if the vulnerable service is not accessible at all.
If the vulnerable service is not needed, it should be disabled. And if it is needed, then it is probably allowed, or it won't work anyway? So how the firewall helps?
For example, if workstation needs file sharing service, it probably needs to allow incoming cifs/smbfs connections as well. And in that case, infected machine can use the service, regardless of the firewall. If file sharing is not needed, it should be disabled. And that protects the machine without firewall. So how the firewall helps?
Local firewall can probably block outgoing connections, and that is about the only good use for one. But then, Windows allows software to modify some firewall settings, so probably that won't work anyway?
On my HP Compaq 8510w laptop with 3gb ram, I got totally different results. Firefox 3.0.6 was used in both Windows & Linux. At least I am happy Linux user, even I still have dual boot on my machine.
Linux ubuntu-810 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals) Total: 4006.6ms +/- 1.3%
Simply grab their.id file, copy it to your local machine, and change the password on it. Viola! You can now read their mail database. Out-of-the-box, this was dumb.
No, this it not true. If user id has password, you need to know the password to be able to change it.
But, if user's mail database is not encrypted, you can open it locally without knowing the password.
Today's filesystems are usually using larger chunks than 512 bytes to save data. But of course it depends of the filesystem you are using.
And judging of your talk about Notepad, you are using Windows. Windows NTFS uses 4k blocks by default on large (> 2GB) disks.
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When running "sudo rm -rf/" it still asks user's password if that user has not ran sudo before on that same environment.
In Ubuntu, only FIRST user account created during installation is able to do sudo by default, rest of the accounts are not in wheel group and are not permitted to sudo.
Root account is disabled, it is not "account without a password". So, you need to know password of wheel user to be able to use it.
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I Like Gnome 3 quite a lot. I just fits my work habits really well:
* Alt+Tab (and Alt+Key-above) works just as I really want them to work. Perfect
* Dynamic virtual desktops concept is perfect for me
* Minimalistic look. I really hate when toolbars are full of icons, and every place is full of things.
* Desktop overview is good & easy (or whatever it is called, where you can manage your windows, and launch new programs etc.)
* Extensions!
I have only few problems with Gnome 3 - one being that gnome-tweak-tool should really be included by default.
My second favorite is Awesome window manager. I've also tested Xmonad and Kde quite extensively for several weeks, but Kde is way too "stuffed" and confusing for my tastes, and Awesome seems to be better fit than Xmonad for some reason.
Finland was not actually part of Axis - at least not fully. They fought with German against Russia, and they received quite significant help from German though.
"Co-belligerents
Various countries fought side by side with the Axis powers for a common cause. These countries were not signatories of the Tripartite Pact and thus not formal members of the Axis."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers
How it should work? Or how one expect its to work?
There is big differences here. For me, Gnome 3 way works perfectly (ALT+TAB walks all applications in all workspaces, ALT+key above walks current application windows).
This is different than traditional way, but which one is correct?
Even with Ubuntu, you can easily switch to different desktop. It is not hardcoded you know?
Yes true. I can get KDE 4.8 to suit to my tastes and to work with my workstyle but it requires lots tweaking. Way more that to get Gnome 3 usable for me.
Btw, I did fresh Opensuse 12.1 KDE install to test some KDE things there, and here is some observations from that.
KDE settings are somehow unlogically placed on different categories. Quite hard to find (in Gnome 3, they are not existing, so you need to use dconf-editor...). Either is good.
1. Nepomuk wont die. Even if you disable it. In Opensuse, you cannot uninstall it because it is part of kdebase. Removing nepomuk things from /usr/share/autostart doesn't even prevent them starting up. Uninstalled all akonadi things, then deleted /usr/bin/nepomuk*. Done!
2. Active window glow is horrific. Disabled it immediately
3. All windows have way too many buttons/icons (5) in titlebar. Usually I only need one (close). Tweaked
4. Cashew is there sitting on desktop, and no easy way to get rid of it. ihatecashew should work here
5. KMenu is little bit irritating. For example, when shutting down the machine, you will need pleothra of clicks to get it done. This I could get used to though, same way as I can get used to Gnome 3 menu system.
6. Dolphin toolbar is awful. Okular is even worse with multiple toolbars. Again, I want my toolbars to have only 2-4 icons which I use most. Tweaked. Big plus for ability to get the toolbars to left side of the window instead of the top.
7. Single-click to open items is not good for me.
8. Focus follows mouse is must.
9. Empty black background without icons.
In default Gnome 3 installation, I did steps 3, 5, 7,8 and 9. Too bad in Gnome 3 I did not found a way to have application toolbars on left instead of top
If I try to remove nepomuk, it wants to remove all kde as well. On my Ubuntu machine I actually did just that you suggested, which then meant goodbye to my KDE installation. Do you have better option?
Just to test this, I did install Opensuse 12.1 to my virtual machine. Within default installation, nepomuk cannot be disabled (it still runs even after disable + reboot). In Opensuse, nepomuk is part of kdebase package, so removing this would remove KDE altogether too.
Oh. I meant Application toolbar, not the one on desktop. Because on KDE 4.8 by default, application toolbars are too cluttered by default. Customization is of course an option.
I will download and try newest Opensuse. I haven't tried that long time.
I don't care at all about KDEPIM applications or search. I am using recall as search, and that works beautifully for me, and indexes just whenever I want it. So, Nepomuk has been really pain.
Yes, best thing about KDE is its tweakability. And then if I hit my head to thing I cannot tweak of properly (like the cashew or nepomuk starting whatever I do) it really bothers me a lot. It should not force anything if everything is about customization options, right?
On my desktop, I want absolutely nothing. Nada. No icons, no picture. Only thing on my desktop has is pure black colored background. If all its functions are accessible via KMenu/panel, why then it needs to be on desktop? KMenu can be autohidden, that thing cannot.
Yes. I like my toolbars to only have the buttons I really need. Which is about 2-4 icons, maybe sometimes even 5 at maximum. So, I need to configure every toolbar to my liking.
Also, I want my desktop to be clean. Usually there is nothing there. Only way to disable it was to install "I hate cashew". If there is any other way, it was not told anywhere. I really hated it so I wanted it gone.
In clean install of KDE 4.8, there seem no configured virtual desktops by default, only several activities. Those can be easily configured and added to panel but that was the default. It seem that KDE folks really try to promote activites.
As I wrote, even if I disabled Nepomuk, it was always starting and running. Those two clicks did not help. Searching from forums, somebody told that there is some application explicitly starting it. So I disabled all KDE mail/calendar/whatever things, and still it started. Then, I deleted the executables. And in clean install, I did notice it.
The thing is, people are complaining that Gnome forces them to use it Gnome-way, without a way modifying the thing. But, KDE does lots of same things, and no-one complains? Sounds unfair to me.
(I am using Awesome window manager normally, not Gnome. But I prefer Gnome 3 over KDE 4.8 if I would not use tiling window manager)
KDE is NOT doing perfectly sensible decisions. I have tried it multiple times and here is things that annoy me most:
1. All toolbars are full of crap by default. Way too much icons and things. I want it clean and nice.
2. There is "Activity Cashew" button in desktop which cannot be removed easily.
3. I tried the new Activities, and so far they are totally useless for me (and yes, I did read long tutorials from net to try to get them). And by default there is no virtual desktops.
4. Nepomuk is useless crap if you are not using those KDE applications like mail/calendar. And it cannot be easily disabled (even I disabled it everywhere, it still started up). Manually deleting executables did help.
There is lots of totally redundant cruft installed by default, at least in Ubuntu 11.10, with KDE 4.8 ppa. Why I would need two file managers for example?
It was way worse experience than default Gnome 3. I did get it workable by doing lots of configuration, but it was not "perfectly sensible" defaults!
I have been using Gnome 3.2 since Ubuntu 11.10 came out. So far I have been liking it quite a lot, it feels really natural and clean way to work. Before Gnome 3, I have been using Awesome & Gnome 2 desktops for years.
Gnome 3 extensions seem to be really easy to install, just two clicks and that was. I was already using some via ppa's, but this seems nicer.
Now, just if I can get automatic window tiling extension Gnome 3 would be perfect (there is manual tiling extension available, and one automatic one, but it is still buggy). Also, there is some small bugs in Gnome 3 still, but nothing earth-breaking anymore.
At least I like Gnome 3.
In past years, I have been using lots of different window managers. And still I run at least - LXDE, Awesome, Gnome3, Unit. I have always been quite flexible for using different ways of work, so I don't have any problem switching from Gnome 3 to Kde, or from Gnome 3 to Awesome - just short while of getting used to it and that's it.
I usually try out all new Desktops/Window managers which interest me, and run them for an week or two on my main laptop.
There is room for different Window managers/Desktops out there. I don't understand why there must be hate for one. Just switch to another one, it is your choice.
For me, Alt+{key above tab} works for jumping between application windows. And I am using Finnish keyboard, so it should work for Swedish as well.
down), I think my only real complaint is the insane OS X-alike modal application launcher buttons. (The launcher buttons change behaviour depending on whether there is another window from that application already open - if there is no other window open belonging to that app the launcher buttons open a new window, but if that application has other windows open, the launcher button simply raises all of them. i.e. if I have 15 terminal windows open and I click the terminal launcher button to get another one, it will instead raise all 15 of those windows to the foreground. This is totally nuts - as a user I don't want to have to look to see if an application is running before clicking a button in order to know what that button is going to do. If I click the application button it means I want a new window; if I wanted to switch to an existing window I would've used the window switcher; and I *never* want to raise all windows belonging to a certain application at once.)
You can use middle-button or right-click/New Window for that.
But, there is interesting difference:
if you click terminal launcher with middle mouse button, it opens it on new workspace. If you click it with right mouse button and select "New window" terminal starts on current workspace.
Why is that happening? I usually want it always to start on current workspace.
Agreed. Inbound connections should be blocked by disabling all unnecessary services which open listening ports. If service is not needed, then it should be disabled. If it is needed, then access to that service is probably needed too. Problem is, that in Windows it is impossible to disable certain listening ports.
Outbound connection blocking is much more valuable - if the malware is not clever enough to disable local firewall, it cannot open outbound connections.
You cant exploit a service you cant communicate with.
And I'm not talking about email-attachment exploits as these should be handled by the anti-virus software.
The machine where the thumbdrive is inserted is probably going to be hosed, but the rest of the machines on the network have a chance to avoid it if the vulnerable service is not accessible at all.
If the vulnerable service is not needed, it should be disabled. And if it is needed, then it is probably allowed, or it won't work anyway? So how the firewall helps?
For example, if workstation needs file sharing service, it probably needs to allow incoming cifs/smbfs connections as well. And in that case, infected machine can use the service, regardless of the firewall.
If file sharing is not needed, it should be disabled. And that protects the machine without firewall. So how the firewall helps?
Local firewall can probably block outgoing connections, and that is about the only good use for one. But then, Windows allows software to modify some firewall settings, so probably that won't work anyway?
On my HP Compaq 8510w laptop with 3gb ram, I got totally different results. Firefox 3.0.6 was used in both Windows & Linux. At least I am happy Linux user, even I still have dual boot on my machine.
Linux ubuntu-810 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
Total: 4006.6ms +/- 1.3%
3d: 471.8ms +/- 9.4%
cube: 168.4ms +/- 19.6%
morph: 176.4ms +/- 17.7%
raytrace: 127.0ms +/- 14.5%
access: 573.8ms +/- 5.5%
binary-trees: 85.0ms +/- 29.3%
fannkuch: 197.8ms +/- 16.5%
nbody: 188.0ms +/- 6.8%
nsieve: 103.0ms +/- 19.7%
bitops: 452.4ms +/- 11.3%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 87.6ms +/- 43.8%
bits-in-byte: 98.4ms +/- 32.6%
bitwise-and: 125.4ms +/- 12.6%
nsieve-bits: 141.0ms +/- 20.7%
controlflow: 61.8ms +/- 45.3%
recursive: 61.8ms +/- 45.3%
crypto: 256.0ms +/- 26.4%
aes: 93.0ms +/- 18.3%
md5: 81.0ms +/- 50.7%
sha1: 82.0ms +/- 42.8%
date: 415.0ms +/- 15.3%
format-tofte: 243.6ms +/- 11.5%
format-xparb: 171.4ms +/- 23.0%
math: 467.8ms +/- 11.9%
cordic: 165.2ms +/- 22.5%
partial-sums: 197.0ms +/- 9.8%
spectral-norm: 105.6ms +/- 33.2%
regexp: 306.4ms +/- 11.0%
dna: 306.4ms +/- 11.0%
string: 1001.6ms +/- 4.3%
base64: 142.8ms +/- 4.9%
fasta: 228.0ms +/- 16.3%
tagcloud: 181.6ms +/- 16.6%
unpack-code: 325.8ms +/- 3.4%
validate-input: 123.4ms +/- 20.8%
Windows XP SP3
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
Total: 4917.4ms +/- 4.3%
3d: 564.2ms +/- 13.9%
cube: 209.2ms +/- 6.0%
morph: 164.4ms +/- 37.6%
raytrace: 190.6ms +/- 6.7%
access: 779.4ms +/- 9.2%
binary-trees: 116.2ms +/- 5.4%
fannkuch: 328.4ms +/- 4.2%
nbody: 189.4ms +/- 28.5%
nsieve: 145.4ms +/- 37.9%
bitops: 650.4ms +/- 32.3%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 155.0ms +/- 43.7%
bits-in-byte: 174.8ms +/- 29.5%
bitwise-and: 131.0ms +/- 44.7%
nsieve-bits: 189.6ms +/- 29.4%
controlflow: 94.4ms +/- 40.8%
recursive: 94.4ms +/- 40.8%
crypto: 409.2ms +/- 31.0%
No, this it not true. If user id has password, you need to know the password to be able to change it.
But, if user's mail database is not encrypted, you can open it locally without knowing the password.
Lotus Notes is not a e-mail client, it is groupware application framework. It is just plain stupid to use it only for e-mail.
There is some good reasons to use Notes, but e-mail is not one of them.
It is perhaps already taking it or even more.
Today's filesystems are usually using larger chunks than 512 bytes to save data. But of course it depends of the filesystem you are using.
And judging of your talk about Notepad, you are using Windows. Windows NTFS uses 4k blocks by default on large (> 2GB) disks.
When running "sudo rm -rf /" it still asks user's password if that user has not ran sudo before on that same environment.
In Ubuntu, only FIRST user account created during installation is able to do sudo by default, rest of the accounts are not in wheel group and are not permitted to sudo.
Root account is disabled, it is not "account without a password". So, you need to know password of wheel user to be able to use it.