Being convincing has nothing to do with it. Science has known that punishment does not work for 40-50 years now. Having a concrete solution in which people still profit off of the criminals is what will get your solution into place. Remember, the US way is to profit off your population by getting them to consume things they don't need.
The Canadian system uses lots of trackers and home arrest, mainly because the government isn't so big on exploiting their population like the States and unwilling to invest in a system that has been proven ineffectual.
In Mexico, you could die in jail because your food and everything needs to be supplied by the outside. Now this type of jail system, where the prisoner has to pay for everything (unlike Canada paying 70-100k per prisoner per annum) would probably be more of a detterent to crime if it was the actual criminals that got sent to jail and not innocent people in the wrong place, innocent people refusing to pay bribes, and innocent people trying to fight the corruption in the government.
My guess would be that one of the reasons drugs are so prevalent in prisons is that they are useful.
Look drugs out in society is bad for the society (well, US viewpoint anyway) because it usually removes people from the work force and/or slows their productivity down.
Within the penal system there's huge advantages to having the population on depressants. It would be interesting to see what the ratio of stimulants/depressants is outside in society and then within the penal system.
If you study any psychology, then yes, you're actually correct. All of science says punishment doesn't work and it just causes more friction between the punisher and the punishee.
The penal system has nothing to do with correction/integration, etc... it's just an ancient system that they haven't found anything to replace with, but have turned into a cash cow.
Last time i checked in Canada, if you abolished the whole penal system, you could give a minimum wage that's double the poverty line to the whole population. I'm sure it would be much greater in the US since they profit way more than canada off of their prisoners.
I'm pretty sure this wouldn't stop white collar crime, or passion crimes, but every single criminal i've ever met was somebody who grew up in a poor family or on the streets with barely enough to eat everyday and no opportunities for education. And yes, i've met a lot of criminals, Montreal has a huge diverse gang population.
It's really sad when you hear teenagers saying that they commit crimes just to get sent to juvy so that they have a place to sleep in the winter and 3 meals a day (with seconds if you want! I gained 10 pounds in 1 week! [This was in the 80's when in certain parts you'd be brought back to the station if you spoke english to police, and heaven forbid that you try and speak english in the courtroom which is what got me sent away...oh, that and the province supplied lawyer who didn't speak a word of english and entered a plea of guilty without talking to me... ok, ok, i might have yelled some english at that point:))
I highly doubt just because they screen them that they are more law abiding then the average. In fact it could be argued that the sample you are talking about is more polarized between 'good' and 'evil' than the greater population. After all, what are the motivations for entering into penal system workforce? The possibility of making money as a guard or staff is huge, and apparently there's enough people that do it that it's a problem. There's also that the job gives you an 'appropriate' outlet for aggression. Cops, guards, etc... are some of the most violent, aggressive, corrupt people i've ever met (well, met some, mostly been on the receiving end), and they've far outweighed the few exemplary humans with compassion, understanding, and a genuine willingness to sacrifice themselves for the greater good.
Isn't it cool how i can respond to something you haven't actually stated, just like you responded to something the parent didn't really imply either?
Oh, you could do that with someone from canada as well (like me), but there's no way you can say canadians have the same culture. Hell, the west coast of north america is a different culture then the east coast and canadians on the west coast are more like west coast US'ians (what the hell are US citizens called that isn't based out of stupidity?) than east coast canadians.
I have no doubt that we are all converging into a similar environment, technological, economical, etc..., and we are starting to see that, but it in no way has erased the large body of culture that has been passed down in families and they are the ones that instruct you how to react to your environment. We're going to need a couple more generations with the ease of information access we currently have to change that. (though it'll be interesting to see if it ever happens as the differences between generations increases as we approach the singularity [if there will be one] we might have more of a horizontal culture transmission (world-wide single generation) as opposed to a vertical culture transmission (cross generational, same physical environment)
...um, that might be hard to understand because i think i just invented those terms.
No, there's absolutely no mention of Singapore or Monaco in my response. BTW, i know Asian cultures are very different EVEN if they share a lot of things like material goods, technology, and science, which was my point. That just illustrates the fact that North America in general shares the same materialistic/capitalist environment, however, not only does each country in NA react differently to this consumer culture, but so do individual states and provinces due to their past history and current geographical/environmental factors. So much easier to work all day in canada when it's freezing cold outside, now go to mexico and... well, so much easier not to work hard when you can lounge all day in the sun and eat tropical fruit and fish in the ocean. Besides the hotter it gets the more your brain shuts down to prevent overheating, nobody wants to think down here:)
Have you ever been to North Dakota or Texas? Speaking the same language (well, they're both considered english, but are very different), does not make them nearly the same culturally. Are you an US'ian, and if so, don't they teach you history at school? They've been culturally different since the beginning of time. And no the glut of available materialistic objects isn't it, because if you travel the world, that part isn't really to different anywhere in the world. Hiking through the himalayas, you see subsistence villages with cell phones, internet access, etc... Not too much tech, since everything has to be carried up by ponies or people.
Nah, it's all about heat. The further south you go, the further down the chakra chain you go. Mexico and texas are about in the stomach region, all full of desires and hungers which the heat just amplifies. Brazil is about the genital area. Canada of course, is both heart and mind, kinda squished together because the brain is so smart it doesn't want to live in the freezing cold. Of course, NA and SA are on the right side of the body, so dealing with the physical aspects of these chakras, until the switch over at the head and canada is quite leftist in it's thinking, but physical in it's love of others, and the willingness to physically give up their lives to help others.
Wait, we are making groundless statements here right?...well, except that mine is true... haha
Your western viewpoint is blinding you to the possibilities.
An individual can build a sterling engine, a parabolic dish, and the tracking mechanism, very simple mechanics. You need big inudstry to produce pv cells.
Sterlings and dishs require easily available low cost, easily recyclable materials. PV cells, well, i'm sure you know the story there.
A sterling is about x2 as efficient as a pv cell, the amount of energy to turn a well balanced dish is negligible, depending on your design, you might have enough extra energy to mount the dish on your house and rotate your house!
Sure the mechanical systems need maintenance, which can be done by one person, and is not extremely difficult either. PV cells need replacing
So basically, a single well-informed individual can travel from village to village, setting up these power generators and teaching the people how to maintain them. If the village has a skilled metal worker even better, if not, then depending where in the world, you can introduce a new industry in the larger centers that do have metal workers. I'm in mexico right now and there's metal workers everywhere, though i think the jewelers would probably be the ones to ask to build sterlings.
Personally, when i build my house, i'm looking into a flywheel for energy storage, which i like more than the idea of battery banks. The ideal would be to have most of the systems working off of mechanical energy, mainly because i HATE the sound of electricity, it drives me crazy, and because i find it ridiculous just how many motors people have in their houses.
I like how science comes up with ways to do things that require no effort on your part. Other cultures had to actually do the work themselves, such as through yoga. Which basically says you have limited awareness divided between lots of nonsense, so to improve performance control where your energy goes.
After all, if you're working on a mental problem do you really need to have part of your consciousness dedicated to listening for your name? or the word fire? Flow is the absence of most, if not all, contextually useless subroutines.
You can also improve reaction times by reducing higher level functions, e.g. 2.5d vision takes lots of processing power, you're actually not looking at what is there, but a static representation of what was there milliseconds ago. Which is why if you get hit in the eye, the flash of stimulation is seen before the object even touches your eye. Now, if you remove all your object creation/aggregation functions (built on top of 2.5d vision you get even faster pattern recognition and with binocular vision decoupled you can move on to using your eyes independently. Basically, autists are working close to the metal (probably due to a problem with higher aggregation functions).
The example of the quad in the article is perfect. Understanding shadows was the bane of my existence. If you have no 2.5d vision and a very small viewport (If looking at a person my field of view was only sufficient to see one facial feature at a time) then you have no object creation (which makes recognizing faces, places, and things, very difficult).
INterestingly enough, once i accomplished getting 'field view', my brain took care of the rest. 4 years after the initial work on my eyes and i can recognize objects, people and even my self in the mirror. The suprising thing was how simple shadows are to understand...IF you can see the object and the lightsource at the same time!
Damage? You have heard of ECT right? You'd need way less energy levels for this application, even less than the energy they've used to knock out peoples visual centers. Basically they're gravitating towards, less energy, more specificity.
As for Alzheimer's what's your basis? As far as i can tell it could possible help considering that a symptom of alzheimers is the deterioration of the matrix that suspends the neurons in the brain. Brain growth stimulates the strengthing and growth of the matrix. In fact, it is increasingly seen as just as important as the neurons itself. After all, what is flow without structure?
The interesting thing about logic is that very few people possess the ability to use it. The basic 'common sense' reaction is , magnets= nonsense.
However, humans are collections of magnetic fields. So basically "common sense" is saying, "how dumb are you to believe that magnets affect magnet fields".
It's kind of ironic that a large part of the culture that pursues physcial determinism seem to exclude themselves from said physical determinism. Which is just proof that the western viewpoint still lacks a connection to reality.
Aknowledging ignorance is usually the first step towards the truth. Notice how the scientists in the article have no clue how this works either.
That's science of course, trying to build a pyramid out of lots of little pyramids. Western science/medicine hasn't got any base to start to explain physical processes as flows of energy and not as static systems.
It will take a long time, because they're basically trying to explain the subjective science of energy movement (chi,prana, etc...) using static models.
It's interesting that in the past ten years more of this research is being done. Unfortunately, when i was doing my thesis on brain stimulation and learning i was failed even though i had significant results. I was failed because it went against the set assumptions of what is possible, i.e., i wasn't building ontop of a small pyramid, but trying to connect the spaces inbetween pyramids.
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Learn how to read.
Hell, placebo's are more effective than punishment.
Read the scientific studies. Learn the scientific definition of punishment. Are we not on slashdot here?
Now, now, it's not nice to make fun of the autists.
Being convincing has nothing to do with it. Science has known that punishment does not work for 40-50 years now. Having a concrete solution in which people still profit off of the criminals is what will get your solution into place. Remember, the US way is to profit off your population by getting them to consume things they don't need.
In Mexico, you could die in jail because your food and everything needs to be supplied by the outside. Now this type of jail system, where the prisoner has to pay for everything (unlike Canada paying 70-100k per prisoner per annum) would probably be more of a detterent to crime if it was the actual criminals that got sent to jail and not innocent people in the wrong place, innocent people refusing to pay bribes, and innocent people trying to fight the corruption in the government.
Punishment doesn't work unless it's within milliseconds to seconds of the incident. Anything after that and you'll just get fear and resentment.
Look drugs out in society is bad for the society (well, US viewpoint anyway) because it usually removes people from the work force and/or slows their productivity down.
Within the penal system there's huge advantages to having the population on depressants. It would be interesting to see what the ratio of stimulants/depressants is outside in society and then within the penal system.
Oh, i'm pretty sure the US has no problem tracing and recording every single cell call in the area. PATRIOT act anyone?
The penal system has nothing to do with correction/integration, etc... it's just an ancient system that they haven't found anything to replace with, but have turned into a cash cow.
Last time i checked in Canada, if you abolished the whole penal system, you could give a minimum wage that's double the poverty line to the whole population. I'm sure it would be much greater in the US since they profit way more than canada off of their prisoners.
I'm pretty sure this wouldn't stop white collar crime, or passion crimes, but every single criminal i've ever met was somebody who grew up in a poor family or on the streets with barely enough to eat everyday and no opportunities for education. And yes, i've met a lot of criminals, Montreal has a huge diverse gang population.
It's really sad when you hear teenagers saying that they commit crimes just to get sent to juvy so that they have a place to sleep in the winter and 3 meals a day (with seconds if you want! I gained 10 pounds in 1 week! [This was in the 80's when in certain parts you'd be brought back to the station if you spoke english to police, and heaven forbid that you try and speak english in the courtroom which is what got me sent away...oh, that and the province supplied lawyer who didn't speak a word of english and entered a plea of guilty without talking to me... ok, ok, i might have yelled some english at that point :))
Isn't it cool how i can respond to something you haven't actually stated, just like you responded to something the parent didn't really imply either?
I have no doubt that we are all converging into a similar environment, technological, economical, etc..., and we are starting to see that, but it in no way has erased the large body of culture that has been passed down in families and they are the ones that instruct you how to react to your environment. We're going to need a couple more generations with the ease of information access we currently have to change that. (though it'll be interesting to see if it ever happens as the differences between generations increases as we approach the singularity [if there will be one] we might have more of a horizontal culture transmission (world-wide single generation) as opposed to a vertical culture transmission (cross generational, same physical environment)
No, there's absolutely no mention of Singapore or Monaco in my response. BTW, i know Asian cultures are very different EVEN if they share a lot of things like material goods, technology, and science, which was my point. That just illustrates the fact that North America in general shares the same materialistic/capitalist environment, however, not only does each country in NA react differently to this consumer culture, but so do individual states and provinces due to their past history and current geographical/environmental factors. So much easier to work all day in canada when it's freezing cold outside, now go to mexico and ... well, so much easier not to work hard when you can lounge all day in the sun and eat tropical fruit and fish in the ocean. Besides the hotter it gets the more your brain shuts down to prevent overheating, nobody wants to think down here :)
Have you ever been to North Dakota or Texas? Speaking the same language (well, they're both considered english, but are very different), does not make them nearly the same culturally. Are you an US'ian, and if so, don't they teach you history at school? They've been culturally different since the beginning of time. And no the glut of available materialistic objects isn't it, because if you travel the world, that part isn't really to different anywhere in the world. Hiking through the himalayas, you see subsistence villages with cell phones, internet access, etc... Not too much tech, since everything has to be carried up by ponies or people.
Wait, we are making groundless statements here right? ...well, except that mine is true... haha
God is that you? I'll make sure to burn you some flour to tide you over.
An individual can build a sterling engine, a parabolic dish, and the tracking mechanism, very simple mechanics. You need big inudstry to produce pv cells.
Sterlings and dishs require easily available low cost, easily recyclable materials. PV cells, well, i'm sure you know the story there.
A sterling is about x2 as efficient as a pv cell, the amount of energy to turn a well balanced dish is negligible, depending on your design, you might have enough extra energy to mount the dish on your house and rotate your house!
Sure the mechanical systems need maintenance, which can be done by one person, and is not extremely difficult either. PV cells need replacing
So basically, a single well-informed individual can travel from village to village, setting up these power generators and teaching the people how to maintain them. If the village has a skilled metal worker even better, if not, then depending where in the world, you can introduce a new industry in the larger centers that do have metal workers. I'm in mexico right now and there's metal workers everywhere, though i think the jewelers would probably be the ones to ask to build sterlings.
Personally, when i build my house, i'm looking into a flywheel for energy storage, which i like more than the idea of battery banks. The ideal would be to have most of the systems working off of mechanical energy, mainly because i HATE the sound of electricity, it drives me crazy, and because i find it ridiculous just how many motors people have in their houses.
I like how science comes up with ways to do things that require no effort on your part. Other cultures had to actually do the work themselves, such as through yoga. Which basically says you have limited awareness divided between lots of nonsense, so to improve performance control where your energy goes.
After all, if you're working on a mental problem do you really need to have part of your consciousness dedicated to listening for your name? or the word fire? Flow is the absence of most, if not all, contextually useless subroutines.
You can also improve reaction times by reducing higher level functions, e.g. 2.5d vision takes lots of processing power, you're actually not looking at what is there, but a static representation of what was there milliseconds ago. Which is why if you get hit in the eye, the flash of stimulation is seen before the object even touches your eye. Now, if you remove all your object creation/aggregation functions (built on top of 2.5d vision you get even faster pattern recognition and with binocular vision decoupled you can move on to using your eyes independently. Basically, autists are working close to the metal (probably due to a problem with higher aggregation functions).
The example of the quad in the article is perfect. Understanding shadows was the bane of my existence. If you have no 2.5d vision and a very small viewport (If looking at a person my field of view was only sufficient to see one facial feature at a time) then you have no object creation (which makes recognizing faces, places, and things, very difficult).
INterestingly enough, once i accomplished getting 'field view', my brain took care of the rest. 4 years after the initial work on my eyes and i can recognize objects, people and even my self in the mirror. The suprising thing was how simple shadows are to understand...IF you can see the object and the lightsource at the same time!
A) Sleep on the floor of your house (hopefully you live in the city full of electricity and gadgets)
B) Go camping and sleep on the ground far away from man-made magnetic fields
C) Observe the difference.
I have not met one person that hasn't been able to notice the difference.
As for Alzheimer's what's your basis? As far as i can tell it could possible help considering that a symptom of alzheimers is the deterioration of the matrix that suspends the neurons in the brain. Brain growth stimulates the strengthing and growth of the matrix. In fact, it is increasingly seen as just as important as the neurons itself. After all, what is flow without structure?
However, humans are collections of magnetic fields. So basically "common sense" is saying, "how dumb are you to believe that magnets affect magnet fields".
It's kind of ironic that a large part of the culture that pursues physcial determinism seem to exclude themselves from said physical determinism. Which is just proof that the western viewpoint still lacks a connection to reality.
That's science of course, trying to build a pyramid out of lots of little pyramids. Western science/medicine hasn't got any base to start to explain physical processes as flows of energy and not as static systems.
It will take a long time, because they're basically trying to explain the subjective science of energy movement (chi,prana, etc...) using static models.
It's interesting that in the past ten years more of this research is being done. Unfortunately, when i was doing my thesis on brain stimulation and learning i was failed even though i had significant results. I was failed because it went against the set assumptions of what is possible, i.e., i wasn't building ontop of a small pyramid, but trying to connect the spaces inbetween pyramids.
Back in 1789 people didn't use the internet to communicate with their next door neighbour!
How do you get the attention of anything? Show them what they need or something novel. Haven't you read ANY animal research?
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