Yes you diss MS programmers now, but what will you say about these same programmers who are going to work for Google? Will you then praise them as great coders?
I am not understanding. You are saying 99% of the people voted for the "major party" which is singular. There are two major parties. So 99% of those who voted decided to vote for either democrats or republicans. What did the other 1% vote for? The minority? Well I guess there was a third option. If you are really dissatisfied with the options - make some more, you will have to start small (neighborhood gov't, then local, then state, then fed) but it can be done. Actually, point in case. A person in the area I grew up started as something small in the neighborhood (in Philadelphia) -- worked his way and is now (or at least was last time i heard) a state representative. He did this in the course of 10 or so years (Bill Brady). So it is possible...and no he is not rich by any means.
It is a shame those who did not vote (and there are those who did not vote because they didn't like either candidate, and refused to vote for the lesser of two evils) failed to speak when they had the easiest chance to. Voting is the one time where you can EASILY voice your opinion.
IMHO, there is never a reason to not vote. The options may not be your ideal options, but at least you can pick something that you more agree with. So you may not like democrats or republicans...but if you hate republicans MORE, then you should vote for a democrat so the Republican does not get in...again take the lesser of two evils.
If you re-read this I think you will see the fourth amendment says you need more than just probable cause for search and seizures. You need a warrent and those warrents require probable cause supported by oath or affirmation.
Please explain oath and affirmation. Does it say this oath and affirmation needs to come from the court? Or does it need to come from someone who took an oath to this country? Every FBI agent needs to take an oath prior to becoming an agent.
As for you quote from Wiki...no offense, but I could care less about a definition of what a warrent should be according to wiki....i want the official stance - and wikipedia is far from official (Note: I like wikipedia, but do realize for some things it is not valid).
Please note i am not defending all of the patriot act, but i also do not condem all of it. THe problem i see with it is the lack of court approval...i think a lack of court approval on time sensative material "Judge this guy is about to skip town in 10 minutes, can we at least detain him" would be OK. Secrative stuff is not OK unless it is to prevent hampering of a case "Hm we would let you complain about this, but your complaining might jeapardize this investigation, and worse someones life...so at least for now, shut up or go to jail. When we are finished with the investigation, do what you need to do." --- My two cents.
Which election is this? I hope you are not speaking of the Presidential election which certainly did not have a 99% vote.
And you are right, if We The People were a bit more united in our voice, we would be able to get things done. While big companies write the checks, we put the people in office. Politician A will not be getting any funds from the big company if Politician A is not in office. If people do not vote for Politician A he is out of a job. Now we just need to get people to vote on a per person record - not on a party line "well he is a democrat and my parents vote democrat so i will vote democrat."
Well there you go. If you think the only vote that matters is your dollar, then do so. Get people aware. Publicize on TV/newspapers/etc (and you can use local small time organizations if you want to protest the big media groups) how bad your representative is. Then say "Hey this senator was bought off by XYZ company to pass this horrid bill because the bill does this and that. Ok now that you know, if you agree do not vote for this guy, and boycott their products. Then write a letter to the company and to the senator." If enough people agree you will make a difference....If you as an unhappy citizen are not willing to do everything you can possibly do (short of breaking the law which won't help you out much) then you as an unhappy citizen will not get anything done.
As far as I realized, once this law is brought to the Senate, and inacted the law will be available for public view (how can you obey a law you do not know about). The only thing that has to remain a secret is when the FBI comes knocking on your door and tell you it has to be secret (not every instance of the FBI will be a secret). So yes this expanded bill can be challenged. And I am sure organizations like the ACLU will fight it.
The Great grandparent posters statement says he only recognizes the law of the land - my post was in response to it, your post took it out of context. The Constitution does not directly address issues of cars. It just grants powers to the states to govern themselves.
As for this new bill to expand the patriot act... it has to 1) pass senate, 2) pass the president (that shouldnt be hard at all), 3) survive the supreme court.
Look at the language you quoted - Upon "probable cause" - it is assumed that the FBI will only do search and seizure upon "probable cause". So it can easily be argued that the Constitution is not violated. At least in your quote, nothing here says it has to be done by the court systems.
There is something way more powerful then a check - the media. Get the media to tell your story and you will find out how a lot of representatives will listen. Nobody wants to be known as the bad guy - especially not a politician - why not paint him as a bad guy
I, unlinke our government, will continue to observe the law of the constitution over all others
And you, will sit in jail for being a raving moron. Why was he modded insightful? Other then to show "This is not how you should act."
Here are steps you can take:
Protest the law
Write your senator/representative/governer/presidnt (threaten to not vote for them if they vote for this amendment...and then follow through.)
Sign a petition of as many people as you can get (registered voters preferred)
Complain
Do not prove them right (by breaking the law)
Use the media to your advantage
Get into politics, modify the laws yourself
I guess since the Constitution does not say anything about drinking and driving you go drink and drive right? I guess because the constitution does not mention anything about getting car insurance you don't have any but still own a car right?
It happens...nobody is perfect, I do not expect anyone to be so (I hope they are, but i am an optomistic realist). As such, if an "innocent" mistake was made, lets correct it and move on. If it was blatent negligence, lets fry them. This seems like an "oops it happend, the package could have been someone's order of a $2.00 comic book. We will try and make things right. Please forgive us, we have a good track record."
Yes its good to know about it, no we do not have to put Citi or UPS at the stake and damn them to hell.
Yes for packages that arrive LATE...so it gaurantees a package will get there on time, and if it doesn't get there on time you will get a refund. Implying "Your package will get there, it might get there late, but it will get there".
Actually their blame is very worth mentioning, as they lost the data. They do, tought they are the best. Blame for the loss of the package and the data is on the shoulders of UPS. Blame for the non-encryption is on Citi.
Actually, go to the UPS website Now do a search for UPS Service Gaurantee - they gaurantee delivery.
Take it from the perspective of the movie companies. They produce movies - and a lot of people out there are copying/downloading them for free. Imagine you worked long and hard on a product - and you are trying to maximize it. How would you feel if people were stealing your work? I am not talking about the legitimate people who back up (remember it only takes a few bad apples). What would you want done if someone is stripping away your chances of making money?
Why are you not blaming UPS? They are the ones who lost the data. You should blame UPS for losing the package and then blame Citi for not encrypting the data. To say UPS is blameless is totally irresponsible on your part, and lacks insight.
The above was moded up why? Just becuase information gets stolen does not mean they are not taking it seriously. Considering any information could be used to scam credit card money which citibank is responsible for. Considering Citibank may have to make reparations to someone who has their identity stolen and abused, considering they will lose customers (and hamper getting new ones), consider the bad PR, considering the potential gov't law suits... Yea they care...and there is a lot of reason for them to care on a purely selfish reason - let alone the consumer.
And you don't feel bad of depriving disney, pixar and all of these guys of a couple dozen replacement DVDs @ 30$ each every year?
With the exception of special packs, multi-disc movies ( and even then) what DVD's cost $30? I have never paid $30 for any single movie. Hell I paid $50 for the extended superman platinum set that had all the supermen movies - and that was the most expensive thing ever.
I do not feel bad of depriving the movie companies their due revenue for a movie even if it is $30....if I do not like their prices, I do not buy their product. Now if this was the second disc I had to buy because my dog ate the first one, I can understand the want to copy - but as I said, and you are ignoring my statement in your rant, most people rip and burn movies they rent, not movies they own for backup. Are there exceptions ---yes--- are they greater then those who are ripping just to get an almost free movie --- I want proof of that.
In response to your bullets
see it in theatre multiple times - your problem, why should the theatre give you an unlimited seat?
If you choose to buy it on VHS and DvD then that is your problem. Personally if I wanted a copy on VHS I would buy it on DvD and copy it to VHS (a legal act).
As for upgrading technologies - a company spends a lot of time and money in researching a better technology - why do they owe you a copy of the movie free because you bought a previous version?
Nope sorry, you have no case here. The only case possible is for backup purposes - and again, show me verifiable, reliable independent data showing most people rip and burn for backing up and not stealing.
Did S&W have to shut their doors down (as in give up their assests to the gov't? This was a rhetorical question using an example company. How many gun makers are still making guns for civilians? - a whole lot. Apparantly they still have open doors.
While I agree that sueing the people who make the tool is wrong (who is suing smith and wessen for their making guns that are used to kill), we all know most of the people using programs like Decrypter are using them to make copies of movies they rent from their favorite dvd rental place (as my friend likes to call it PirateBuster).
So this is, in all honesty, not the real reason to be upset with the MPAA. They are just trying to protect their investments.
Well between legal issues (potentially licensing from this guy), management approval, disection of this guys technology, building it (cost effective, making it faster, etc) and then testing (the biggest hurdle..will it work with most apps) -- yea a year is about right...and nothing is wrong with it. There are many advantages to doing it yourself --- there are also many advantages to working with other people in a large - well funded - organization. Let's not belittle this companies...that is grossly unfair.
Use it to help advertise Open Source initiatives. A product doesn't have to be the biggest, or the best - it just has to have recognition. More Open Source initiative advertising - the more people are likely to support it. People give a LOT of credit to products that are advertised, as opposed to those that are not.
Just like in the article that was covered one or two weeks ago here on/.
Is it that hard to understand. PC's have many advantages over consoles - and sometimes the advantage is even price (considering some of these consoles will cost around $500, and the games about 50$).
All a console really is a simple to use, rarely crashing, fully DRM'd, limited use computer.
Consoles are more user friendly - virtually no crashing...requiring no loading or advanced configuartion
PCs are more customizable, can do other things (i.e. you can type your homework on it), and are not so locked up.
Some people, also, cannot afford both. Maybe someone can afford to spend 1200 on a bangin gaming machine...but they may not be able to afford that 1200 piece of hardware and an additional 400-600 console.
There will be a market for both in the near future, and even mid future (5-10 years)... Maybe past 10 years these devices will merge...but oh wait they will just be PC's marketed as consoles...maybe you can do less upgrades to them.
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Yes you diss MS programmers now, but what will you say about these same programmers who are going to work for Google? Will you then praise them as great coders?
I am not understanding. You are saying 99% of the people voted for the "major party" which is singular. There are two major parties. So 99% of those who voted decided to vote for either democrats or republicans. What did the other 1% vote for? The minority? Well I guess there was a third option. If you are really dissatisfied with the options - make some more, you will have to start small (neighborhood gov't, then local, then state, then fed) but it can be done. Actually, point in case. A person in the area I grew up started as something small in the neighborhood (in Philadelphia) -- worked his way and is now (or at least was last time i heard) a state representative. He did this in the course of 10 or so years (Bill Brady). So it is possible...and no he is not rich by any means.
It is a shame those who did not vote (and there are those who did not vote because they didn't like either candidate, and refused to vote for the lesser of two evils) failed to speak when they had the easiest chance to. Voting is the one time where you can EASILY voice your opinion.
IMHO, there is never a reason to not vote. The options may not be your ideal options, but at least you can pick something that you more agree with. So you may not like democrats or republicans...but if you hate republicans MORE, then you should vote for a democrat so the Republican does not get in...again take the lesser of two evils.
If you re-read this I think you will see the fourth amendment says you need more than just probable cause for search and seizures. You need a warrent and those warrents require probable cause supported by oath or affirmation.
Please explain oath and affirmation. Does it say this oath and affirmation needs to come from the court? Or does it need to come from someone who took an oath to this country? Every FBI agent needs to take an oath prior to becoming an agent.
As for you quote from Wiki...no offense, but I could care less about a definition of what a warrent should be according to wiki....i want the official stance - and wikipedia is far from official (Note: I like wikipedia, but do realize for some things it is not valid).
Please note i am not defending all of the patriot act, but i also do not condem all of it. THe problem i see with it is the lack of court approval...i think a lack of court approval on time sensative material "Judge this guy is about to skip town in 10 minutes, can we at least detain him" would be OK. Secrative stuff is not OK unless it is to prevent hampering of a case "Hm we would let you complain about this, but your complaining might jeapardize this investigation, and worse someones life...so at least for now, shut up or go to jail. When we are finished with the investigation, do what you need to do." --- My two cents.
99% said "we approve" in the last election
Which election is this? I hope you are not speaking of the Presidential election which certainly did not have a 99% vote.
And you are right, if We The People were a bit more united in our voice, we would be able to get things done. While big companies write the checks, we put the people in office. Politician A will not be getting any funds from the big company if Politician A is not in office. If people do not vote for Politician A he is out of a job. Now we just need to get people to vote on a per person record - not on a party line "well he is a democrat and my parents vote democrat so i will vote democrat."
Well there you go. If you think the only vote that matters is your dollar, then do so. Get people aware. Publicize on TV/newspapers/etc (and you can use local small time organizations if you want to protest the big media groups) how bad your representative is. Then say "Hey this senator was bought off by XYZ company to pass this horrid bill because the bill does this and that. Ok now that you know, if you agree do not vote for this guy, and boycott their products. Then write a letter to the company and to the senator." If enough people agree you will make a difference....If you as an unhappy citizen are not willing to do everything you can possibly do (short of breaking the law which won't help you out much) then you as an unhappy citizen will not get anything done.
As far as I realized, once this law is brought to the Senate, and inacted the law will be available for public view (how can you obey a law you do not know about). The only thing that has to remain a secret is when the FBI comes knocking on your door and tell you it has to be secret (not every instance of the FBI will be a secret). So yes this expanded bill can be challenged. And I am sure organizations like the ACLU will fight it.
The Great grandparent posters statement says he only recognizes the law of the land - my post was in response to it, your post took it out of context. The Constitution does not directly address issues of cars. It just grants powers to the states to govern themselves.
As for this new bill to expand the patriot act... it has to 1) pass senate, 2) pass the president (that shouldnt be hard at all), 3) survive the supreme court.
Look at the language you quoted - Upon "probable cause" - it is assumed that the FBI will only do search and seizure upon "probable cause". So it can easily be argued that the Constitution is not violated. At least in your quote, nothing here says it has to be done by the court systems.
There is something way more powerful then a check - the media. Get the media to tell your story and you will find out how a lot of representatives will listen. Nobody wants to be known as the bad guy - especially not a politician - why not paint him as a bad guy
I, unlinke our government, will continue to observe the law of the constitution over all others
And you, will sit in jail for being a raving moron. Why was he modded insightful? Other then to show "This is not how you should act."
Here are steps you can take:
Protest the law
Write your senator/representative/governer/presidnt (threaten to not vote for them if they vote for this amendment...and then follow through.)
Sign a petition of as many people as you can get (registered voters preferred)
Complain
Do not prove them right (by breaking the law)
Use the media to your advantage
Get into politics, modify the laws yourself
I guess since the Constitution does not say anything about drinking and driving you go drink and drive right? I guess because the constitution does not mention anything about getting car insurance you don't have any but still own a car right?
Now try and play games like CounterStrike without a mouse (let alone using a low grade mouse). You can set your nickname to "P0wn3d m3 pl3@s3"
It happens...nobody is perfect, I do not expect anyone to be so (I hope they are, but i am an optomistic realist). As such, if an "innocent" mistake was made, lets correct it and move on. If it was blatent negligence, lets fry them. This seems like an "oops it happend, the package could have been someone's order of a $2.00 comic book. We will try and make things right. Please forgive us, we have a good track record."
Yes its good to know about it, no we do not have to put Citi or UPS at the stake and damn them to hell.
Yes for packages that arrive LATE...so it gaurantees a package will get there on time, and if it doesn't get there on time you will get a refund. Implying "Your package will get there, it might get there late, but it will get there".
Actually their blame is very worth mentioning, as they lost the data. They do, tought they are the best. Blame for the loss of the package and the data is on the shoulders of UPS. Blame for the non-encryption is on Citi.
Actually, go to the UPS website Now do a search for UPS Service Gaurantee - they gaurantee delivery.
I would say the people who lost the data get the primary blame, followed by citibank for not encrypting the data.
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Hell, they probably informed UPS this is an important package.
And encrpytion is only a lock waiting to be broken
Repeat after me: "UPS is at fault for losing the data. Citibank is at fault for not encrypting it."
As for non-encrpytion, does the article state they didn't encrpyt it? I don't recall seeing that, though I could be wrong.
Take it from the perspective of the movie companies. They produce movies - and a lot of people out there are copying/downloading them for free. Imagine you worked long and hard on a product - and you are trying to maximize it. How would you feel if people were stealing your work? I am not talking about the legitimate people who back up (remember it only takes a few bad apples). What would you want done if someone is stripping away your chances of making money?
Why are you not blaming UPS? They are the ones who lost the data. You should blame UPS for losing the package and then blame Citi for not encrypting the data. To say UPS is blameless is totally irresponsible on your part, and lacks insight.
The above was moded up why? Just becuase information gets stolen does not mean they are not taking it seriously. Considering any information could be used to scam credit card money which citibank is responsible for. Considering Citibank may have to make reparations to someone who has their identity stolen and abused, considering they will lose customers (and hamper getting new ones), consider the bad PR, considering the potential gov't law suits... Yea they care...and there is a lot of reason for them to care on a purely selfish reason - let alone the consumer.
And you don't feel bad of depriving disney, pixar and all of these guys of a couple dozen replacement DVDs @ 30$ each every year?
With the exception of special packs, multi-disc movies ( and even then) what DVD's cost $30? I have never paid $30 for any single movie. Hell I paid $50 for the extended superman platinum set that had all the supermen movies - and that was the most expensive thing ever.
I do not feel bad of depriving the movie companies their due revenue for a movie even if it is $30....if I do not like their prices, I do not buy their product. Now if this was the second disc I had to buy because my dog ate the first one, I can understand the want to copy - but as I said, and you are ignoring my statement in your rant, most people rip and burn movies they rent, not movies they own for backup. Are there exceptions ---yes--- are they greater then those who are ripping just to get an almost free movie --- I want proof of that.
In response to your bullets
see it in theatre multiple times - your problem, why should the theatre give you an unlimited seat?
If you choose to buy it on VHS and DvD then that is your problem. Personally if I wanted a copy on VHS I would buy it on DvD and copy it to VHS (a legal act).
As for upgrading technologies - a company spends a lot of time and money in researching a better technology - why do they owe you a copy of the movie free because you bought a previous version?
Nope sorry, you have no case here. The only case possible is for backup purposes - and again, show me verifiable, reliable independent data showing most people rip and burn for backing up and not stealing.
Did S&W have to shut their doors down (as in give up their assests to the gov't? This was a rhetorical question using an example company. How many gun makers are still making guns for civilians? - a whole lot. Apparantly they still have open doors.
While I agree that sueing the people who make the tool is wrong (who is suing smith and wessen for their making guns that are used to kill), we all know most of the people using programs like Decrypter are using them to make copies of movies they rent from their favorite dvd rental place (as my friend likes to call it PirateBuster).
So this is, in all honesty, not the real reason to be upset with the MPAA. They are just trying to protect their investments.
So your saying I can setoff my EMP device at Cal Tech and not have to worry about frying every single piece of computer device in a 15 mile radius?
In all seriousness, would you show a link to this? I would find it an interesting read?
Well between legal issues (potentially licensing from this guy), management approval, disection of this guys technology, building it (cost effective, making it faster, etc) and then testing (the biggest hurdle..will it work with most apps) -- yea a year is about right...and nothing is wrong with it. There are many advantages to doing it yourself --- there are also many advantages to working with other people in a large - well funded - organization. Let's not belittle this companies...that is grossly unfair.
Use it to help advertise Open Source initiatives. A product doesn't have to be the biggest, or the best - it just has to have recognition. More Open Source initiative advertising - the more people are likely to support it. People give a LOT of credit to products that are advertised, as opposed to those that are not.
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Just like in the article that was covered one or two weeks ago here on
Is it that hard to understand. PC's have many advantages over consoles - and sometimes the advantage is even price (considering some of these consoles will cost around $500, and the games about 50$).
All a console really is a simple to use, rarely crashing, fully DRM'd, limited use computer.
Another few reasons why there will be both:
Consoles are more user friendly - virtually no crashing...requiring no loading or advanced configuartion
PCs are more customizable, can do other things (i.e. you can type your homework on it), and are not so locked up.
Some people, also, cannot afford both. Maybe someone can afford to spend 1200 on a bangin gaming machine...but they may not be able to afford that 1200 piece of hardware and an additional 400-600 console.
There will be a market for both in the near future, and even mid future (5-10 years)... Maybe past 10 years these devices will merge...but oh wait they will just be PC's marketed as consoles...maybe you can do less upgrades to them.