I have to totally agree here, our countires priorities and uniformity of the laws are haphazard at best. Each state is different, sometimes the counties in the states are different. People going to jail for 9 years for spam, but can go to jail for 5 years for murder! That is a complete atrocity. Personally, an overhaul of our laws should be in order - and 9 years is way too long. Fine him a huge amount, and i mean big (take the car/house/etc) that he bought with his profits - then stick him in jail for 6 months to a year.
Which is understandable, except businesses are already on those "sucker lists", so they want some positive PR. Also, those donations are tax deductable - and when we are talking big bucks, that makes a difference....am i wrong?
Nope but I can think of at least one company that MS made rich --- Giant. 80 some million i believe for their anti-spyware program.
MS is not the only company to put other companies out of business due to pressure (we should not include companies who fell out due to legitimate competition, or their own stupidity just because they competed against MS).
MS also puts thousands of people in work. Again, MS is not the only company responsible for other companies failing. Actually, if a company fails it is largely their own fault, not MS. Otherwise, how does MS have any competitors out there?
"Anyonymous company makes a GENEROUS donation of OSS. It is a great program, huge, many possibilities. This is something a big company had to make."
Followed by a/. user saying "Yea look at that, some company, probably Apple or IBM made this - you would think MS would try and follow in their footsteps. The lousy closed source, monopolizing war mongers."
That is pretty much what would happen and all those smiles in Redmond would go to frowns as their developers say "ingrateful twirps"
Forgive yes, forget no...we are not talking about a company that comitted murder, rape, etc. They used unsavory business practices - it is not that heinous of a crime.
Every company needs to publicize what they have done if they plan on getting good PR - they need some incentive - that does not make them bad, or conniving. I doubt many companies donate hundreds of thousands of dollars without advertising it - then again, how are we supposed to know.
In other words, imagine if MS never advertised any of its donation's (monetary or services) - wouldn't we all then say "look at them, they take but they never give back - the greedy bastards."
You want MS to create OSS software to give out for free, but do it anonymously? Ok, then how are we supposed to give credit to MS for doing this generous thing? You are falling into a circle here: 1) MS publicizes the good they did and they get crap for "FUD", 2) MS does the work anon. and gets no credit. Under your model there is no way for MS to get credit for their work - which is not only publicity but a tax write-off which they are entitled too.
And who says that MS has to donate a certain amount of money? If they want to spend 10 mil on a 100k donation - that is their choice - we should thank them for the 100k donation and we should thank them for putting 10 mil back into the economy and lining someone elses pockets.
But you are right about one thing - many people will never trust MS no matter what they do - which I think is just plain old shameful since we forgive people who do a lot more graver of sins.
The "industry" chose iPod with it's DRM. To say the industry chose iPod but not the DRM is like saying "He chose those pair of jeans, but not the zipper that came sewn into it." People wanted the iPod (the reasons do not really matter why) and they were willing to deal with the DRM. For those that do not know of the DRM - when they found out - they continued to use it instead of returning it. It is not like iPod was the ONLY Mp3 player out there..
The people had a choice. Do I support Apple's DRM, no, but I am a minority.
Obviously if you give people a choice of DRM or non-DRM the non-DRM will win out (at least with the informed folks) but that is irrelevant. To give you an example that is like me saying "for $25,000 you can either have this BMW without a CD player or this BMW with a CD player...which would you prefer."
How is this easier? Money transferred from one bank account to another bank account is more easily traced within US. Our banks must follow strict guidelines, banks in other countries many nto have those same guidelines. If they transfered this money to say a Swiss bank account that didn't have any personal information attached to it - the police may never have caught a person. They might have been able to get to the account, and retrieve the money, butgettin a persons private info is much harder.
So when your logs show activity in Brazil, how is this easier then if your logs show activity in Maine?
Is your unix system prepared for the 2^31 system bugs? If you are unsure, download our special program that will tell you if you need to hire some out-of-work Cobol programmer to update your Unix time clock.
I have a samuraii sword, hand-and-half sword, a dagger, a warhammer and a sig saur sp 2340 all next to my bed (lots of ammo included). A camel waterpack, backpack, and 10 MRE's....The IMPs and their master demons had better fear me.
P.s. I also have lots of holy water from the Dead Sea in Israel
You know...there is just some technology I do not think we should ever have - the ability to make a singularity is just one of them. Black holes are not forces of nature we should be trying to create - i mean, imagine if these idiots actually suceeded in creating a black hole or something resembling it and it DIDN't disappear in a miniscule amount of time....or imagine that even at that short lived period - it had enough power (black holes are pretty damn powerful) to destroy the planet in the blink of an eye...
This is not a troll, or flame - but it is a legitimate concern...while I am all up for gaining knowledge and power...I am not chaotic and would like to do it in a fashion that might allow us all to live happily ever after ---well i am Lawful Evil so as long as I live happily ever after and the rest of your worship me we are OK.
Most banking, automated, systems do not have such a feature. Now the wire department might contact someone if you were doing a wire transfer, but if you are doing an EFT transfer that is a different story.
Since the person comitting the crime is checking up on his/her account frequently waiting for the funds to hit (to probably transfer to another account) by the time you find out and get things done it will be too late.
as for your bank getting you your money - well assuming the receiving bank cares enough to help - if the money is not in that account anymore then there is no money to give back to you.
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It's all a matter of comfort - which i think you led to. Once a person gets the money, they lay low - for a few months. Then they get comfortable, then they start spending the big bucks and someone says "wow, how is joe poor driving a bentley?" and there ya go.
If a person is capable of stealing 400 million w/o getting caught in the act - they are also capable of keeping it and not getting caught - but it would require a lifetime of looking over your shoulder...more importantly, not drawing attention to yourself.
never liked me those damned seelicone thingies anyhow...gimmie a good shotgun, a sharp knife, and a wood to wittle. I shur be happy from now on - who needs counterstrike when all us ex-computer geeks can play counterstrike: Live...well until you get shot.
So I don't have time to read the article (or just lazy). I don't get it - a spam company (cruise) was ordered to stop sending spam to this guy due to OK state law, so they proceed to sue him? Could someone give me a slightly better answer then that teaser tag.
it is to a non-mac user... sort of like when my friend, who loves linux, started ratteling off linux commands to me saying it is so easy - yea for him - he uses it, I don't.
I do realize this, but since I am not familiar enough with macs - again I rarely use it - i have no idea how to access it. My g/f and her two roomates (who are all mac fans) do not know how to either.
PC or no apple has long supported two button mice which is fine for me (as that's all one would ever want to use...)
You are obviously not a gamer. I play Counter Strike and my MX 1000 has 7 standard buttons. A scroll wheel which is the 8th button - but the scroll wheel also can go left to right. The software allows to map all of these functions:)
I would assume MAC has shooter games and as such could benefit from such a device.
My girlfriend loves my dexterous fingers. She doesn't like those violent games that I love (i.e. Counterstrike) - but she doesn't mind me playing since it helps hone my finger skills which she definitly does love:D
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I have to totally agree here, our countires priorities and uniformity of the laws are haphazard at best. Each state is different, sometimes the counties in the states are different. People going to jail for 9 years for spam, but can go to jail for 5 years for murder! That is a complete atrocity. Personally, an overhaul of our laws should be in order - and 9 years is way too long. Fine him a huge amount, and i mean big (take the car/house/etc) that he bought with his profits - then stick him in jail for 6 months to a year.
Which is understandable, except businesses are already on those "sucker lists", so they want some positive PR. Also, those donations are tax deductable - and when we are talking big bucks, that makes a difference....am i wrong?
Nope but I can think of at least one company that MS made rich --- Giant. 80 some million i believe for their anti-spyware program.
MS is not the only company to put other companies out of business due to pressure (we should not include companies who fell out due to legitimate competition, or their own stupidity just because they competed against MS).
MS also puts thousands of people in work. Again, MS is not the only company responsible for other companies failing. Actually, if a company fails it is largely their own fault, not MS. Otherwise, how does MS have any competitors out there?
Yes I could see the slashdot article:
/. user saying "Yea look at that, some company, probably Apple or IBM made this - you would think MS would try and follow in their footsteps. The lousy closed source, monopolizing war mongers."
"Anyonymous company makes a GENEROUS donation of OSS. It is a great program, huge, many possibilities. This is something a big company had to make."
Followed by a
That is pretty much what would happen and all those smiles in Redmond would go to frowns as their developers say "ingrateful twirps"
Forgive yes, forget no...we are not talking about a company that comitted murder, rape, etc. They used unsavory business practices - it is not that heinous of a crime.
Every company needs to publicize what they have done if they plan on getting good PR - they need some incentive - that does not make them bad, or conniving. I doubt many companies donate hundreds of thousands of dollars without advertising it - then again, how are we supposed to know.
In other words, imagine if MS never advertised any of its donation's (monetary or services) - wouldn't we all then say "look at them, they take but they never give back - the greedy bastards."
You want MS to create OSS software to give out for free, but do it anonymously? Ok, then how are we supposed to give credit to MS for doing this generous thing? You are falling into a circle here: 1) MS publicizes the good they did and they get crap for "FUD", 2) MS does the work anon. and gets no credit. Under your model there is no way for MS to get credit for their work - which is not only publicity but a tax write-off which they are entitled too.
And who says that MS has to donate a certain amount of money? If they want to spend 10 mil on a 100k donation - that is their choice - we should thank them for the 100k donation and we should thank them for putting 10 mil back into the economy and lining someone elses pockets.
But you are right about one thing - many people will never trust MS no matter what they do - which I think is just plain old shameful since we forgive people who do a lot more graver of sins.
The "industry" chose iPod with it's DRM. To say the industry chose iPod but not the DRM is like saying "He chose those pair of jeans, but not the zipper that came sewn into it." People wanted the iPod (the reasons do not really matter why) and they were willing to deal with the DRM. For those that do not know of the DRM - when they found out - they continued to use it instead of returning it. It is not like iPod was the ONLY Mp3 player out there..
The people had a choice. Do I support Apple's DRM, no, but I am a minority.
Obviously if you give people a choice of DRM or non-DRM the non-DRM will win out (at least with the informed folks) but that is irrelevant. To give you an example that is like me saying "for $25,000 you can either have this BMW without a CD player or this BMW with a CD player...which would you prefer."
How is this easier? Money transferred from one bank account to another bank account is more easily traced within US. Our banks must follow strict guidelines, banks in other countries many nto have those same guidelines. If they transfered this money to say a Swiss bank account that didn't have any personal information attached to it - the police may never have caught a person. They might have been able to get to the account, and retrieve the money, butgettin a persons private info is much harder.
So when your logs show activity in Brazil, how is this easier then if your logs show activity in Maine?
Is saying "good job" too much to ask for? What does MS need to do to earn a thank you from all the nay-sayers.
MS doesn't like OSS in the retail/commerical industry - which this is not.
They did a good thing, appreciate it. It is not FUD, I am sorry to say that in this case the FUD is from you at first post.
good god man, who the hell wants to see bush? You must be one of those damn republicans.
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Is your unix system prepared for the 2^31 system bugs? If you are unsure, download our special program that will tell you if you need to hire some out-of-work Cobol programmer to update your Unix time clock.
Don't you worry, I am just about to finish up my degree on symbology and made arrangements to take the scramjet to the vatican
I have a samuraii sword, hand-and-half sword, a dagger, a warhammer and a sig saur sp 2340 all next to my bed (lots of ammo included). A camel waterpack, backpack, and 10 MRE's....The IMPs and their master demons had better fear me.
P.s. I also have lots of holy water from the Dead Sea in Israel
You know...there is just some technology I do not think we should ever have - the ability to make a singularity is just one of them. Black holes are not forces of nature we should be trying to create - i mean, imagine if these idiots actually suceeded in creating a black hole or something resembling it and it DIDN't disappear in a miniscule amount of time....or imagine that even at that short lived period - it had enough power (black holes are pretty damn powerful) to destroy the planet in the blink of an eye...
This is not a troll, or flame - but it is a legitimate concern...while I am all up for gaining knowledge and power...I am not chaotic and would like to do it in a fashion that might allow us all to live happily ever after ---well i am Lawful Evil so as long as I live happily ever after and the rest of your worship me we are OK.
Most banking, automated, systems do not have such a feature. Now the wire department might contact someone if you were doing a wire transfer, but if you are doing an EFT transfer that is a different story.
Since the person comitting the crime is checking up on his/her account frequently waiting for the funds to hit (to probably transfer to another account) by the time you find out and get things done it will be too late.
as for your bank getting you your money - well assuming the receiving bank cares enough to help - if the money is not in that account anymore then there is no money to give back to you.
Mr BigTallMofo,
Realizing your concern in our confident trade we assure you of our mutual plans to make profit from the war-torn country of Nigeria. Please be sure to send us your savings account number, as your bank did not want us to place 44,500,212.23$ (US Dollars) in your checking account.
Since you have been inconvenienced we will kindly have you notice that we will raise our gratuity to 85% plus 5% fees.
Your quick reply will start you and me on our way to fortune so I can rule my poor Nigeria once again.
Your friend in hiding - Prince Abu Jaffar Omai Abaqwaqwa
It's all a matter of comfort - which i think you led to. Once a person gets the money, they lay low - for a few months. Then they get comfortable, then they start spending the big bucks and someone says "wow, how is joe poor driving a bentley?" and there ya go.
If a person is capable of stealing 400 million w/o getting caught in the act - they are also capable of keeping it and not getting caught - but it would require a lifetime of looking over your shoulder...more importantly, not drawing attention to yourself.
/.'ers don't read the articles, even if they post them.
never liked me those damned seelicone thingies anyhow...gimmie a good shotgun, a sharp knife, and a wood to wittle. I shur be happy from now on - who needs counterstrike when all us ex-computer geeks can play counterstrike: Live...well until you get shot.
So I don't have time to read the article (or just lazy). I don't get it - a spam company (cruise) was ordered to stop sending spam to this guy due to OK state law, so they proceed to sue him? Could someone give me a slightly better answer then that teaser tag.
it is to a non-mac user... sort of like when my friend, who loves linux, started ratteling off linux commands to me saying it is so easy - yea for him - he uses it, I don't.
I do realize this, but since I am not familiar enough with macs - again I rarely use it - i have no idea how to access it. My g/f and her two roomates (who are all mac fans) do not know how to either.
PC or no apple has long supported two button mice which is fine for me (as that's all one would ever want to use...)
:)
You are obviously not a gamer. I play Counter Strike and my MX 1000 has 7 standard buttons. A scroll wheel which is the 8th button - but the scroll wheel also can go left to right. The software allows to map all of these functions
I would assume MAC has shooter games and as such could benefit from such a device.
My girlfriend loves my dexterous fingers. She doesn't like those violent games that I love (i.e. Counterstrike) - but she doesn't mind me playing since it helps hone my finger skills which she definitly does love :D