Religion has often been as en excuse for war.
That isn't religions fault if it has been abused. As a Christian (I don't mean by
my birth or official religion, I do believe in God, and Jesus Christ, His son) I have no reason
to support Islam, but I really believe that many muslisms to not accept those deeds and don't approve it by their Faith. Bush is trying to act as a good Christian, at least that's the picture I get, but if he did, he'd pray on his knees for wisdom and would try to seek those reasons why these terrorists did what they did.
Instead, his causing many innocent children getting orphans, or worse yet, killing them by 'collateral damage', as it is said. Yes, I know that in WTC many people also lost their relatives, but I'd like to point out that the organisation behind WTC is not an institute looking for people's wellfare. WTO abuses third nations hard, year 1998 it's spokesman dared to claim in public that it is good to transfer most polluting industry to development countries, as a dead worker is not as expensive there as it is in here.
However, there are people who are really 'religous nuts', but I'd like to make difference between them and just religious people. For any true Christian it should be crystal clear that inquisition at middle ages NOR so-called Crusades were acts of God. 2000 years ago God's son askes us only but two things. Those two things were:
Love God, your Lord more than anything else
Love others as you love yourself
By keeping the last commandment you don't want to kill anybody, even less to cause intentional, prolonged pain. But I don't think that Bush really cares a lot about those things that Jesus had said.
A most excellent reply! Especially the comment
about G8 and WTO. The guy mentioning about
Nikes, Coke and Marlboro made also an excellent
comment. Too bad some people might have missed
the sarcasm and the inconvenient truth behind it.
We, people in western, rich countries, we just
aren't good people, knights in shiny armor fighting evil. I also believe that much of the
terrorists hate is because of the things we have done. We keep many development countries poor intentionally in order to get cheap labour. Huge amounts of money always direct foreing politics. American government had the option to think WHY this horrible terrorist attack happened (it was horrible, and I don't support it). Unfortunately it failed to do so. Bush pretends to be Christian, righteous deliverer of justice fighting satanic monsters (as somebody well pointed out earlier), and sad facts like US foreign policy, acts of WTO & G8 which really result in *thousands of dead people every fscking year*.. will go unnoticed.
Mostly I agree with you - many nerds will
probably present seemingly very good reasons why *this is so wrong*, but what would probably bother them most is the lack of porn. What makes me sick very easily is how porn is often defended by claiming that we deserve free speech, free expression.. for these people I suggest how their future wives will feel for their addictive habit, think the correlation between pornography and faithfullness, and I wonder if they'll recommend porn for their future children (which they'll probably have at some stage).
It's only too bad that most of the porn is now on the Web instead of Usenet, and Usenet isn't filled with rubbish only. I subscribe to seven Usenet groups; two of them deal with Xemacs or Gnus, three with Perl, one with Adom RPG:) and one is our local Linux newsgroup (local to Finland). These groups have been of great value to me (perhaps with the exception of r.g.r.a), and it'd be sad to see them disappear. But then again, none of those are binary groups, and I hope that ISP's will take away pr0n groups first before other binary groups.
It is still too slow and sluggy. I tried Mozilla
M18-3 - it's better than others, but in my P200MMX
(hey, I know it's old, but still) it's far more
inconvenient to use than say, 4.5.
But it looks good. At this rate, I guess M20 will
be where I switch to Mozilla.
Easy for you to say, as a male. According
to your own logic, why didn't you just
ignore her writing? I think you were whining
without reason, Anne-Marie wasn't.
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Anne-Marie, it's sad but I think you're right.
Many readers of Slashdot favour porn, and
it really isn't something to improve male-female
relationships. Any user of pornography does
degrade women and supports their abuse - those
who say it's ok should meet women whose marriage
has been destroyed due to husbands addiction to
pornography. There are many of those. I have
the unlucky priviledge to know such close couple personally.
m> morals of our age (remember the days He here were much worse then m> these) or would he speak out against the church? I think it would be m> the church. After all people curse the name of God becuase of the m> actions of so called Christians. The church has choosen some stupid m> battles in the past and present. I think you could agree with me on m> that. I consider myself a Christian but I think we should live by m> example, not by condemnation. Be a light to the world, not a m> resounding gong.
Well, as a Christian, I'd like to answer:
Yes, I believe Jesus would be very, very angry because of the bigotry and false people in Churches, and I believe he'd attack the Church.
I, too, often say that the worst enemy for Christianism are us, who obey His directions so badly. And worst of us are bigots.
Still, I cannot say that our days are better. Yes, cruelties in so-called civilised countries are much more rare than in eg. development countries, but this is also an illusion: most if not all large corporations involve in activities which kill thousands of people every year.
For example, many toy-producing companies don't even want to know about the situation in their factories in the far east - most of the workers are practically young (female) children slaves. Their wage is almost non-existant, and often they are chained and locked up during the work day (which lasts usually over 10 hours).
You all would be surprised to know how many of the daily products you use to buy cause people to suffer or die horribly. I didn't know. But I found out, and part of me hopes that I would never have. This information is available for anyone interested, though: at least here in Finland there are several organisations researching illegal child labour, environmental abuses (which often indirectly causes severe human injuries) etc. After I read a book discussing these things I'll never more buy Coca-Cola, or anything from that company, or go to Shell when the car runs out of fuel.
Add to this common deterioration of moral - so called free sex, pornography which distorts the idea of actual love-making, ever-increasing superficial ideas and values, selfishness, ignorance, greediness.. and yes, I too, even as a Christian, have fallen to each of these sins. And I know I will sin as long as I live.
Idea in Christianity is not to point out other people how bad they live. This is something a Christian can (and should) do, but not by promoting him/herself. If such is the case, I'd say she's not a Christian.. the main thing should be to focus on herself and try to do as little evil as possible. According to the Bible, a man cannot do this alone without Christ, and this is something many, many Christians have found true, as I have too.
I'm weak, evil and selfish. With the help of God, I'm able to do good every now and then, though it seems like this is very, very rare:(
s> Why people would think of a law prohibiting spam is really beyond me. I s> get junk mail at home that I can ignore and I have a little button on my s> heyboard that corresponds to a function known as a "delete message" s> function that really works wonders.
I don't have kids (yet), but in the future, kids will start to read e-mail at the age of five or earlier (I only had newspapers and comics back then, sniff). I don't want their mailboxes to be flooded with porn spam mails. On the other hand, this problem is much worse with the web, so..:(
Just think of it: most of us are CS folks are stupid in many non-computer related subjects. Making fun of people who don't know how to use computers is far from fun, especially when we call people stupid just because they don't understand how the computers work. Not understanding everything about anything doesn't mean you are stupid, and if you happen to understand a lot of computers you should be happy, not pricky and arrogant.
Many VLSI designers could mock software engineers for their 'stupidity' about how computers really work. But that wouldn't be nice either, huh?
Agreed. Privacy is a good thing, but I haven't read a single comment which were reasonably justified.
Telephone services are traceable, and there are many services in the field. I may be cynical, but why I feel like people consider this a bad thing because after that it's easier to track if they visit porn sites on the web and how often..
as a Christian, I sure hope this is a hoax
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Sites like this is a shame for us Christians. I distate stuff like this - no sensible Christian would create anything which would make a Faith seem like a bad joke (but I'm afraid there are many who call themselves Christians and do just like that there in the States)
Once again I'm happy we don't have less that kind of crap in Finland.
(Just a CS major who has Faith in God and the Holy Bible)
I haven't studied recent (living) scientists, but at least Isaac Newton and Einstein would agree with me in getting rid of evolution theory having been Christians.
Being a Christian myself, I see physics and all other real laws something that God considered a Good Thing(TM). I have full faith in physics, mathematics, computer science and all such stuff, but if a theory is contradictory with the Bible, according to the logic (which is something that cannot be wrong by definition) either the Bible must be interpreted wrong, or the theory is wrong (that is, I can't say there wasn't a big bang, because the Bible doesn't say anything contradictory; it might have been the way God did it). In this case, I see it impossible to interprete the Bible so that humans are apes gone through evolution, and as such it must be false.
Note that many scientists, even those who don't believe in God, find every now and then new false predictions in evolution theory. Eg. that long 'tail' in our spine when we're still in the mother's womb is no longer considered a vestige of a tail, but rather something which is necessary for our skeletal development (or something; the point wasn't in the details).
Very fast and reliable, have been using it in all mail servers I've installed stuff into - one of them was a server handling thousands of messages a day, and many of the attachments were over 100 MB in size (lots of graphicians working there).
Don't know about imapd then, maybe that Cyrus product.
Naah, I have a DVD player hooked to my computer, and even as it features line-doubling and the picture is _very_ sharp and clear when I look those movies in the monitor, it is just too small and I always watch movies via TV, even as the quality is worse. Oh yeah, I have only a 19 inch monitor, and at work my fellow got that 24" wide-screen monitor - it is still too small, though that's quite neat already. I wouldn't get one even if it cost only $50 as long as my monitor is smaller than 32" wide-screen. FWIW, I'd wait 2.35 to 1 aspect-ratio TV:s, buy one and hook my DVD player to that. Or, if you have the dough, just get a good data projector (those which you can get at no less than $15 000)...
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Instead, his causing many innocent children getting orphans, or worse yet, killing them by 'collateral damage', as it is said. Yes, I know that in WTC many people also lost their relatives, but I'd like to point out that the organisation behind WTC is not an institute looking for people's wellfare. WTO abuses third nations hard, year 1998 it's spokesman dared to claim in public that it is good to transfer most polluting industry to development countries, as a dead worker is not as expensive there as it is in here.
However, there are people who are really 'religous nuts', but I'd like to make difference between them and just religious people. For any true Christian it should be crystal clear that inquisition at middle ages NOR so-called Crusades were acts of God. 2000 years ago God's son askes us only but two things. Those two things were:
- Love God, your Lord more than anything else
- Love others as you love yourself
By keeping the last commandment you don't want to kill anybody, even less to cause intentional, prolonged pain. But I don't think that Bush really cares a lot about those things that Jesus had said.I also wish I'm wrong.
A most excellent reply! Especially the comment about G8 and WTO. The guy mentioning about Nikes, Coke and Marlboro made also an excellent comment. Too bad some people might have missed the sarcasm and the inconvenient truth behind it. We, people in western, rich countries, we just aren't good people, knights in shiny armor fighting evil. I also believe that much of the terrorists hate is because of the things we have done. We keep many development countries poor intentionally in order to get cheap labour. Huge amounts of money always direct foreing politics. American government had the option to think WHY this horrible terrorist attack happened (it was horrible, and I don't support it). Unfortunately it failed to do so. Bush pretends to be Christian, righteous deliverer of justice fighting satanic monsters (as somebody well pointed out earlier), and sad facts like US foreign policy, acts of WTO & G8 which really result in *thousands of dead people every fscking year*.. will go unnoticed.
Hum. You can read slashdot via pseudo-NNTP interface. I suggest getting Gnus :)
probably present seemingly very good reasons why *this is so wrong*, but what would probably bother them most is the lack of porn. What makes me sick very easily is how porn is often defended by claiming that we deserve free speech, free expression.. for these people I suggest how their future wives will feel for their addictive habit, think the correlation between pornography and faithfullness, and I wonder if they'll recommend porn for their future children (which they'll probably have at some stage).
It's only too bad that most of the porn is now on the Web instead of Usenet, and Usenet isn't filled with rubbish only. I subscribe to seven Usenet groups; two of them deal with Xemacs or Gnus, three with Perl, one with Adom RPG
It is still too slow and sluggy. I tried Mozilla M18-3 - it's better than others, but in my P200MMX (hey, I know it's old, but still) it's far more inconvenient to use than say, 4.5. But it looks good. At this rate, I guess M20 will be where I switch to Mozilla.
Easy for you to say, as a male. According to your own logic, why didn't you just ignore her writing? I think you were whining without reason, Anne-Marie wasn't.
Anne-Marie, it's sad but I think you're right. Many readers of Slashdot favour porn, and it really isn't something to improve male-female relationships. Any user of pornography does degrade women and supports their abuse - those who say it's ok should meet women whose marriage has been destroyed due to husbands addiction to pornography. There are many of those. I have the unlucky priviledge to know such close couple personally.
m> morals of our age (remember the days He here were much worse then m> these) or would he speak out against the church? I think it would be m> the church. After all people curse the name of God becuase of the m> actions of so called Christians. The church has choosen some stupid m> battles in the past and present. I think you could agree with me on m> that. I consider myself a Christian but I think we should live by m> example, not by condemnation. Be a light to the world, not a m> resounding gong.
Well, as a Christian, I'd like to answer:
Yes, I believe Jesus would be very, very angry because of the bigotry and false people in Churches, and I believe he'd attack the Church.
I, too, often say that the worst enemy for Christianism are us, who obey His directions so badly. And worst of us are bigots.
Still, I cannot say that our days are better. Yes, cruelties in so-called civilised countries are much more rare than in eg. development countries, but this is also an illusion: most if not all large corporations involve in activities which kill thousands of people every year.
For example, many toy-producing companies don't even want to know about the situation in their factories in the far east - most of the workers are practically young (female) children slaves. Their wage is almost non-existant, and often they are chained and locked up during the work day (which lasts usually over 10 hours).
You all would be surprised to know how many of the daily products you use to buy cause people to suffer or die horribly. I didn't know. But I found out, and part of me hopes that I would never have. This information is available for anyone interested, though: at least here in Finland there are several organisations researching illegal child labour, environmental abuses (which often indirectly causes severe human injuries) etc. After I read a book discussing these things I'll never more buy Coca-Cola, or anything from that company, or go to Shell when the car runs out of fuel.
Add to this common deterioration of moral - so called free sex, pornography which distorts the idea of actual love-making, ever-increasing superficial ideas and values, selfishness, ignorance, greediness.. and yes, I too, even as a Christian, have fallen to each of these sins. And I know I will sin as long as I live.
Idea in Christianity is not to point out other people how bad they live. This is something a Christian can (and should) do, but not by promoting him/herself. If such is the case, I'd say she's not a Christian.. the main thing should be to focus on herself and try to do as little evil as possible. According to the Bible, a man cannot do this alone without Christ, and this is something many, many Christians have found true, as I have too.
I'm weak, evil and selfish. With the help of God, I'm able to do good every now and then, though it seems like this is very, very rare :(
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V> How is that in any way different from the internet itself, you fool?
Well, Internet contains a lot of legal and good material too. But how many of the songs available via napster are legal?
I'm not against software like napster, but I understand those other opinions too, and am concerned about the effects they will incur.
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I agree whole-heartedly. I don't see anything fun here, just facts.
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s> Why people would think of a law prohibiting spam is really beyond me. I s> get junk mail at home that I can ignore and I have a little button on my s> heyboard that corresponds to a function known as a "delete message" s> function that really works wonders.
I don't have kids (yet), but in the future, kids will start to read e-mail at the age of five or earlier (I only had newspapers and comics back then, sniff). I don't want their mailboxes to be flooded with porn spam mails. On the other hand, this problem is much worse with the web, so.. :(
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Many VLSI designers could mock software engineers for their 'stupidity' about how computers really work. But that wouldn't be nice either, huh?
Telephone services are traceable, and there are many services in the field. I may be cynical, but why I feel like people consider this a bad thing because after that it's easier to track if they visit porn sites on the web and how often..
Once again I'm happy we don't have less that kind of crap in Finland.
(Just a CS major who has Faith in God and the Holy Bible)
Being a Christian myself, I see physics and all other real laws something that God considered a Good Thing(TM). I have full faith in physics, mathematics, computer science and all such stuff, but if a theory is contradictory with the Bible, according to the logic (which is something that cannot be wrong by definition) either the Bible must be interpreted wrong, or the theory is wrong (that is, I can't say there wasn't a big bang, because the Bible doesn't say anything contradictory; it might have been the way God did it). In this case, I see it impossible to interprete the Bible so that humans are apes gone through evolution, and as such it must be false.
Note that many scientists, even those who don't believe in God, find every now and then new false predictions in evolution theory. Eg. that long 'tail' in our spine when we're still in the mother's womb is no longer considered a vestige of a tail, but rather something which is necessary for our skeletal development (or something; the point wasn't in the details).
Don't know about imapd then, maybe that Cyrus product.
Naah, I have a DVD player hooked to my computer, and even as it features line-doubling and the picture is _very_ sharp and clear when I look those movies in the monitor, it is just too small and I always watch movies via TV, even as the quality is worse. Oh yeah, I have only a 19 inch monitor, and at work my fellow got that 24" wide-screen monitor - it is still too small, though that's quite neat already. I wouldn't get one even if it cost only $50 as long as my monitor is smaller than 32" wide-screen. FWIW, I'd wait 2.35 to 1 aspect-ratio TV:s, buy one and hook my DVD player to that. Or, if you have the dough, just get a good data projector (those which you can get at no less than $15 000)...