i knew you had it in you, plugger!
now you're getting it.
once you have 95% of the desktops using your media player, it's time to roll out the new format that only your media player supports. and it's time to stop supporting competitive players formats. then, since you need to use your PC for business, you only have one choice for swapping media: Media Player. since everyone is using Media Player for business, and everyone is in business somewhere, why would you use RealPlayer for personal reasons.
oh wait, right... media player doesn't support most other formats, and most other players don't support native media player formats. i call that "check."
your trusting brain is moving right into MSFT's checkmate position, because without this kind of ruling, their next step is to squash the competition by changing the formats, and crushing the codecs.
wait, you don't think businesses operate this way? you must be contractors!
fair enough, but could it be that our precious little minds have been warped for so many years that we're not only willing but desperate to invest money in an OS that includes something to play music, but can't keep *anything* secure for even 3 months?
i truly think you've bought into the hype: hype that says an OPERATING SYSTEM needs to play media, browse the internet, and play solitare instead of manage files, protect files, and protect it's user.
forgive me, but a GPS is as useful in a car as media player is in an OS. they're nice-to-haves, but you're missing how the cross opportunity is playing out, and you're becoming a victim.
if you didn't want your stock stereo, you could have bought a car without one. for example, the subaru WRX STI. see, you don't even realize that you have competition, and can use it.
you cannot buy Windows without media player. at least not yet. your reference to my flawed analogy is flawed.
it's even more significant...
everyone is saying Media Player is free. last i checked, some team somewhere was paid to develop it, so to MSFT, it was anything but free. and somewhere in the cost of windows is a payback for media player.
a better crappy anology goes like this:
Let's say you sell cars, and you have a 95% market share. Of the world market. And, you decide you're going to make a built-in GPS standard in every vehicle. not everyone wants it, but they HAVE TO BUY IT because it's included in the price of the car. so, $50 into your coffers for some feature they may or may not use. Sure, you can choose not to use that GPS and get another one, aftermarket, for $200 or so and use that. But why when you have the built-in one you already paid for? So, in a short span of time, you become the 95% marketshare owner of the GPS market also. This is not fair and is the essence of the EU ruling. [thanks wes!]
ahhh, one of plait's tribal council, you are, no doubt.
i find it interesting that you would pick up on my obvious "pun" on personal attacks. hook line sinker. thanks!
as for the posting, most of the people on that board type stuff just to see their post count go up, so they can then strut around as Bad Grads. i assume you read his board, so if you look closely, you'll see what i mean. you seem intelligent.
and as for plait's credentials, he has a long way to go. his book did lousy, because it should have, and when the ads started on his site, well that explains it all, doesn't it? at least hoagland has the guts to ask for handouts. by the way, the ads on plait's site are targeted ads. you realize that, don't you?
and hoagland's credentials are as claimed, it is greenberg and plait that are trying to muddy the waters. they covered up life on mars, and hoagland has them running for the political hatchet.
as for you assessing my skills, you don't even know me. which is probably a good thing.
cheers!
i've been a regular at plait's site for a number of years. recently, however, i find myself less inclined to go there because there's an increasing desire of plait and his followers to use personal attacks and public mockery as a vehicle for discussion and dissent. in essence, if you don't agree with the tribal elders, you will be stripped and forced to walk naked through the streets.
hoagland, or hoagie, (or hoaxland), is entitled to his opinions, research, and his right to web space. hoagland does have credentials, and was around long before that punk plait and his pranksters, and was walking and talking in the halls of NASA, something plait has never achieved.
it occurs to me that people who have been on the inside of NASA know NASA the best. plait is a NASA outsider. he doesn't have the same access that hoagland has and still has in some cases. hoagland rubbed arms with the sagans of the world. plait has to settle for self-titled "posters" at his site that dub themselves "Bad Grad" and other silly names claiming old-school titles as their heirarchy.
in the end, hoagland is turning up the volume on these frequent personal attacks, and plait is attacking back. i love it, and we should let it proceed. after all, plait, and scientists in general are very often VERY wrong. why should the public at large hold hoagland to a different standard?
please, save hoagie. he's a really nice guy, and plait is just a young punk trying to sell books and make a name. he makes me ill.
well, if the chances are of an asteroid hitting every 65M years, and it's the 64,9999M year then we can assume the chances get increasingly higher each year that passes that the asteroid has not hit.
magma does not need to erupt. there are earth processes that defuse this, like a groundwater fissure. so an eruption is not always guaranteed just because magma is present.
i can't back your statistical logic, because the same holds true for asteroids as does an erruption.
it's been shown that earth is overdue for an asteroid hit based on the geological evidence which shows regularly spaced hits from space.
so our odds increase with each year that the asteroid which is long overdue will find us, and each year that goes by makes us more statisically likely to have that hit. in essence only because we estimate the year a specific thing took place. (if one hit 65,000,000 years ago and killed of the dinosaurs, what's the accuracy?)
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i knew you had it in you, plugger! now you're getting it. once you have 95% of the desktops using your media player, it's time to roll out the new format that only your media player supports. and it's time to stop supporting competitive players formats. then, since you need to use your PC for business, you only have one choice for swapping media: Media Player. since everyone is using Media Player for business, and everyone is in business somewhere, why would you use RealPlayer for personal reasons. oh wait, right... media player doesn't support most other formats, and most other players don't support native media player formats. i call that "check." your trusting brain is moving right into MSFT's checkmate position, because without this kind of ruling, their next step is to squash the competition by changing the formats, and crushing the codecs. wait, you don't think businesses operate this way? you must be contractors!
fair enough, but could it be that our precious little minds have been warped for so many years that we're not only willing but desperate to invest money in an OS that includes something to play music, but can't keep *anything* secure for even 3 months? i truly think you've bought into the hype: hype that says an OPERATING SYSTEM needs to play media, browse the internet, and play solitare instead of manage files, protect files, and protect it's user. forgive me, but a GPS is as useful in a car as media player is in an OS. they're nice-to-haves, but you're missing how the cross opportunity is playing out, and you're becoming a victim.
if you didn't want your stock stereo, you could have bought a car without one. for example, the subaru WRX STI. see, you don't even realize that you have competition, and can use it. you cannot buy Windows without media player. at least not yet. your reference to my flawed analogy is flawed.
it's even more significant... everyone is saying Media Player is free. last i checked, some team somewhere was paid to develop it, so to MSFT, it was anything but free. and somewhere in the cost of windows is a payback for media player. a better crappy anology goes like this: Let's say you sell cars, and you have a 95% market share. Of the world market. And, you decide you're going to make a built-in GPS standard in every vehicle. not everyone wants it, but they HAVE TO BUY IT because it's included in the price of the car. so, $50 into your coffers for some feature they may or may not use. Sure, you can choose not to use that GPS and get another one, aftermarket, for $200 or so and use that. But why when you have the built-in one you already paid for? So, in a short span of time, you become the 95% marketshare owner of the GPS market also. This is not fair and is the essence of the EU ruling. [thanks wes!]
ahhh, one of plait's tribal council, you are, no doubt. i find it interesting that you would pick up on my obvious "pun" on personal attacks. hook line sinker. thanks! as for the posting, most of the people on that board type stuff just to see their post count go up, so they can then strut around as Bad Grads. i assume you read his board, so if you look closely, you'll see what i mean. you seem intelligent. and as for plait's credentials, he has a long way to go. his book did lousy, because it should have, and when the ads started on his site, well that explains it all, doesn't it? at least hoagland has the guts to ask for handouts. by the way, the ads on plait's site are targeted ads. you realize that, don't you? and hoagland's credentials are as claimed, it is greenberg and plait that are trying to muddy the waters. they covered up life on mars, and hoagland has them running for the political hatchet. as for you assessing my skills, you don't even know me. which is probably a good thing. cheers!
i've been a regular at plait's site for a number of years. recently, however, i find myself less inclined to go there because there's an increasing desire of plait and his followers to use personal attacks and public mockery as a vehicle for discussion and dissent. in essence, if you don't agree with the tribal elders, you will be stripped and forced to walk naked through the streets. hoagland, or hoagie, (or hoaxland), is entitled to his opinions, research, and his right to web space. hoagland does have credentials, and was around long before that punk plait and his pranksters, and was walking and talking in the halls of NASA, something plait has never achieved. it occurs to me that people who have been on the inside of NASA know NASA the best. plait is a NASA outsider. he doesn't have the same access that hoagland has and still has in some cases. hoagland rubbed arms with the sagans of the world. plait has to settle for self-titled "posters" at his site that dub themselves "Bad Grad" and other silly names claiming old-school titles as their heirarchy. in the end, hoagland is turning up the volume on these frequent personal attacks, and plait is attacking back. i love it, and we should let it proceed. after all, plait, and scientists in general are very often VERY wrong. why should the public at large hold hoagland to a different standard? please, save hoagie. he's a really nice guy, and plait is just a young punk trying to sell books and make a name. he makes me ill.
well, if the chances are of an asteroid hitting every 65M years, and it's the 64,9999M year then we can assume the chances get increasingly higher each year that passes that the asteroid has not hit. magma does not need to erupt. there are earth processes that defuse this, like a groundwater fissure. so an eruption is not always guaranteed just because magma is present.
i can't back your statistical logic, because the same holds true for asteroids as does an erruption. it's been shown that earth is overdue for an asteroid hit based on the geological evidence which shows regularly spaced hits from space. so our odds increase with each year that the asteroid which is long overdue will find us, and each year that goes by makes us more statisically likely to have that hit. in essence only because we estimate the year a specific thing took place. (if one hit 65,000,000 years ago and killed of the dinosaurs, what's the accuracy?)