For you first point, I haven't got a windows to test, but I'm pretty sure that was the way it does things (I'll check at work tommorow) at least I remember it driving me mad on 98.
And I agree that type behind sounds useful to an exent.
BTW: What are you running on your debian? not rolling just curious.
BTBTW: nForce drivers are rubbish, but if you look through the doc, you'll find pointers to their open equivalents, much better all round.
As long as running animations which say 'shockwave flash loading' at the start are truthful, then yes I'm sure.
That said, often flash stuff needs special libraries which aren't always cross platform:(
1) as stated underneith: for a user that is 3 results for the same action, note I said unpredictable and not unstable.
2)3)7) You should really point this out to the GGGParent, I was just counter acting and didn't bash anything outside of his post.
4)Must do, shouldn't pose too many problems (that said if I were to deploy a slack, I'd use postgres)
5)I was pointing out good system keeping practices
6)But then again they never have been: try talking about the XPeriance to a Mac user
9) Too true too true
For a new user this is doing the same action 3 times (ie draging and droping a file/folder), and getting 3 results: there's your unpredictability.
Note I didn't say instability
Just a couple of points: 1) Windows hasn't always had a predictable UI (and IMHO still hasn't). Case in point: drag n drop a file between 2 folders on the same disk: it moves the file, do the same between 2 disks: it copys the file, do the same to the desktop: it links the file. This is unpredictable in the extreem.
2) X bashing is so last century, and today is not much short of trolling. X has never been slow, and when you use the proper video driver, and a (reasonably) modern machine (Athlon XP 1600 here) Gnome and KDE aren't eather. Personnally I've always found KDE more responsive than XP on the same config (Gnome has some lag, it's true)
3) You're 'nothing works' shows me that you probably haven't used slack since the version inflation, and in anycase it isn't the distro for you. I'm currently running Slack 10.1 and DLG 2.8.2 on my machine, and Mandrake 10.1 on my gfs, and, surprise: everything works!
4) Try real, quicktime, wmv, shockwave, flash: all work (yes, on my Slack!, without tweeking!)
5) Trying out apps (from source) is done either in/usr/local (if you don't mind wiping it on occasion) or in/tmp. If you're not up to that, choose a distro with better dep resolution (if you still want bare bones, go to gentoo or Debian, otherwise try Mandrake or Suse) and use the Contrib.
6) smb shares work out the box with modern DEs (XFce 4.2 found my Windows network at work all by itself, no problems , nothing)
7) Free software is about scratching your own itch, for some people it's KDE, for some Gnome, XFce or Screen, there is no war, each borrows from the other, tries to get an improved user experiance, and both improve. XFree in itself should show you why this is a good thing.
Oh, and 8) Win95 doesn't act exactly like XP, you're moving the goalposts there, and 9) A WinXP BSOD is either bad drivers or massive spyware infestation, that one doesn't work anymore either.
And you're forgeting that 'production costs' are taken off the Artists 10%. Which means that by the time a record 'breaks even', the record company already has a 900% return on investement.
There's a link in the/. archives that explains this in detail, but I'm too lazy to go look it up again.
Nothing, they just choose to do something differently, personnally I like having a choice, which is why I use slack.
OTOH, if you don't like the choice, you don't have to use slack... try Mandrake, OSX or Windows XP, lot less choice, just IMHO a lot less flexabilitie and fun...
HTH
David
Yes, but have you tried these last 3 years, I want an app, I go to the 'install software' tab, I type the name in, I click on the app that corresponds, I click install, done... That's how it has been for me since Mdk9.0....
US!=World, this is a global phenomen, and apart from the US, fansubs are the only way to get most stuff.
And, before you start, the biggest Manga hits were first translated on the subs, and just because they missed one or two doesn't mean that they are useless, the studios miss 10 or 20 regularly.
Oh, and
The greed of modern corporations really makes me sick, talk about having your cake and eating it.
This like MS only careing about piracy when they have the market, and then calling everyone theives.
The market wouldn't existe if it weren't for the subbers and now, the studios are attacking the source of their success for a few (virtual) dollars.
Actually, I buy for the same reason I buy DVDs: for the extras: you never get everything on a sub (or a scan).
As for my profound motives, I commend your knoladge of social psychologie, I am not able to say to what extent discordance plays a role, but it probably does:-).
And as for it being true for the public at large, I think (or like to think, take it as you wish) that the subbers and big fans do the same. As for the kazaa bunch, that's another question: but would they have bought them eitherway?
...the commercial engine is running on its own by _now_. (my emphasis added)
The point is that: a) The commercial engin would never have even turned over had it not been for the fansubs (all the anime* domaines were created out of the hype the fansubs created) and
b) If the fansubs disapear, all the anime* sites you can imagin wouldn't suffice (there's a limit to the number of times you can read that volume 4 isn't out, but that you could still re-buy volume 3, that you have coincidently read 5 times already, if you want.).
Case in point, I'm currently buying a series called 'Full Metal Panic'. volume 3 has been out for 3-4 monthes, and no news of volume 4. Why am I going to the trouble of buying them? because I got hooked on the anime thanks to the fansubs (whilst I'm at it: get a move on with the DVD of the anime, there are a lot of people who are impatient here;-)). I'm also considereing buying the Naruto series for the same reasons (jpgs just don't cut it).
Company A spouts out 10 anime series (we'll leave crappy translation/dubbing out of the equation here), 8 flop, 2 do moderatly well (thanks to some die hards), company A decides that anime isn't worth it and stops.
Company B looks at what works with the subbers, and brings out 2 series (we'll assume that 50% buy, like you said), so realises that anime could be a good idea, brings out 2 more, same success. etc...
Conclusion: Company A and Company B have had the same amount of cash influcx, but company A spent 5 times more getting it. Company B continues to bring out anime, and everyone wins: The company: free market research, the public: good quality material they wouldn't have gotten otherwise, the subbers: the increase in interest means more feedback and more help.
Don't get me started on the state the anime scene in the West would be like without the subbing groups.
I can't say that I whole hartedly agree, I'd compare it more to the guy who posted the Starwars kid movie taking the flic down and publishing a message sating that the joke had gone too far and requesting that others did the same (The equivalent of the request to stop distribution asap when the stuff get's liscenced that you find imprinted on all fansubs), but I'm prepared to leave it at that, and after all, it's a mater of opinion, no more, no less (the morals I mean, the Legal is for others to decide, not us).
Everything hinges on what out-there means: if the subbing groupe didn't pull the series, then you've got a point, OTOH, if out there = KaZa, [eaiou]Mule, or standered film torrent sites, then you might as well blame DVD producers for makeing DVDs that someone will rip and put on the web...
I wish you lot would just calm down a bit, it's not like you're whiter than white either, and I can't see you're problem if you're not even interested in anime.
And stop thinking that world=USA, there are lots of us in other parts of the world, and, as I stated earlier, most of the time we _never_ _ever_ get a legal release (Case in point, 9/10 of the fansub's I've watched haven't been released under any form where I live, let alone translated), so it's not like the shareholders are loosing money on this.
In short: Fansubs disapear as soon as a legal distrbution method appears, and in most cases the legal version doesn't appear at all, so there's nto much to complaine about.
David
P.S: Before you start moaning that more legal releases would appear but for fansubbing, remember that their probably wouldn't be anything like the number of manga/anime available today had it not been for the free publicity that the fansubbers provided.
The other thing the studio's would have to do, is put up a foreign orders site. The US isn't the only country benefitting from fansubs, and over here we have to wait even longer for them to come out.
Not quite, they take TV recordings of animes that aren't available in the destination country, sub them, and release them onto the net, kind of like haveing a japanese freind send you this weeks episode with a resume of what goes on.
As soon as someone in the destination country starts producing (or even state that they intend to start producing) the anime in question, it disapears without trace from the web.
The idea is to get to see footage that will probably never be translated (and in most cases isn't, especially into non english languages, France here), not to kill off the japenese film industry.
I've got loads at home, but I also have a lot of Mangas, DVD's etc that I acquired after they were (finally) released. FYI a 4 year wait isn't uncommun.
You're on the right track, but that still wouldn't cut it, due to the crackability of this kind of solution, setuid has no effect on scripts, you'd have to write a small c program to do it, or use sudo, which is much better all round.
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For you first point, I haven't got a windows to test, but I'm pretty sure that was the way it does things (I'll check at work tommorow) at least I remember it driving me mad on 98.
And I agree that type behind sounds useful to an exent.
BTW: What are you running on your debian? not rolling just curious.
BTBTW: nForce drivers are rubbish, but if you look through the doc, you'll find pointers to their open equivalents, much better all round.
As long as running animations which say 'shockwave flash loading' at the start are truthful, then yes I'm sure. That said, often flash stuff needs special libraries which aren't always cross platform :(
1) as stated underneith: for a user that is 3 results for the same action, note I said unpredictable and not unstable. 2)3)7) You should really point this out to the GGGParent, I was just counter acting and didn't bash anything outside of his post. 4)Must do, shouldn't pose too many problems (that said if I were to deploy a slack, I'd use postgres) 5)I was pointing out good system keeping practices 6)But then again they never have been: try talking about the XPeriance to a Mac user 9) Too true too true
True, that said since most drivers are written by third parties, bad drivers aren't often MSs fault either. Now if only they could be more ethicle....
For a new user this is doing the same action 3 times (ie draging and droping a file/folder), and getting 3 results: there's your unpredictability. Note I didn't say instability
Just a couple of points:
/usr/local (if you don't mind wiping it on occasion) or in /tmp. If you're not up to that, choose a distro with better dep resolution (if you still want bare bones, go to gentoo or Debian, otherwise try Mandrake or Suse) and use the Contrib.
1) Windows hasn't always had a predictable UI (and IMHO still hasn't). Case in point: drag n drop a file between 2 folders on the same disk: it moves the file, do the same between 2 disks: it copys the file, do the same to the desktop: it links the file. This is unpredictable in the extreem.
2) X bashing is so last century, and today is not much short of trolling. X has never been slow, and when you use the proper video driver, and a (reasonably) modern machine (Athlon XP 1600 here) Gnome and KDE aren't eather. Personnally I've always found KDE more responsive than XP on the same config (Gnome has some lag, it's true)
3) You're 'nothing works' shows me that you probably haven't used slack since the version inflation, and in anycase it isn't the distro for you. I'm currently running Slack 10.1 and DLG 2.8.2 on my machine, and Mandrake 10.1 on my gfs, and, surprise: everything works!
4) Try real, quicktime, wmv, shockwave, flash: all work (yes, on my Slack!, without tweeking!)
5) Trying out apps (from source) is done either in
6) smb shares work out the box with modern DEs (XFce 4.2 found my Windows network at work all by itself, no problems , nothing)
7) Free software is about scratching your own itch, for some people it's KDE, for some Gnome, XFce or Screen, there is no war, each borrows from the other, tries to get an improved user experiance, and both improve. XFree in itself should show you why this is a good thing.
Oh, and 8) Win95 doesn't act exactly like XP, you're moving the goalposts there, and 9) A WinXP BSOD is either bad drivers or massive spyware infestation, that one doesn't work anymore either.
HTH
David
And you're forgeting that 'production costs' are taken off the Artists 10%. Which means that by the time a record 'breaks even', the record company already has a 900% return on investement.
/. archives that explains this in detail, but I'm too lazy to go look it up again.
There's a link in the
Nothing, they just choose to do something differently, personnally I like having a choice, which is why I use slack. OTOH, if you don't like the choice, you don't have to use slack... try Mandrake, OSX or Windows XP, lot less choice, just IMHO a lot less flexabilitie and fun... HTH David
I understand now, quite a few of my freinds have had the same problem, Fedora seems to be no end of trouble for everything.
:).
That said, do try Mdk or Suse sometime, you'll be plesently surprised
Yes, but have you tried these last 3 years, I want an app, I go to the 'install software' tab, I type the name in, I click on the app that corresponds, I click install, done... That's how it has been for me since Mdk9.0....
sorry, should have been some rant tags in there, that'll teache me not to preview... :-(
US!=World, this is a global phenomen, and apart from the US, fansubs are the only way to get most stuff.
And, before you start, the biggest Manga hits were first translated on the subs, and just because they missed one or two doesn't mean that they are useless, the studios miss 10 or 20 regularly.
Oh, and
The greed of modern corporations really makes me sick, talk about having your cake and eating it.
This like MS only careing about piracy when they have the market, and then calling everyone theives.
The market wouldn't existe if it weren't for the subbers and now, the studios are attacking the source of their success for a few (virtual) dollars.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you
Actually, I buy for the same reason I buy DVDs: for the extras: you never get everything on a sub (or a scan).
:-).
As for my profound motives, I commend your knoladge of social psychologie, I am not able to say to what extent discordance plays a role, but it probably does
And as for it being true for the public at large, I think (or like to think, take it as you wish) that the subbers and big fans do the same. As for the kazaa bunch, that's another question: but would they have bought them eitherway?
...the commercial engine is running on its own by _now_. (my emphasis added)
;-)). I'm also considereing buying the Naruto series for the same reasons (jpgs just don't cut it).
The point is that:
a) The commercial engin would never have even turned over had it not been for the fansubs (all the anime* domaines were created out of the hype the fansubs created) and
b) If the fansubs disapear, all the anime* sites you can imagin wouldn't suffice (there's a limit to the number of times you can read that volume 4 isn't out, but that you could still re-buy volume 3, that you have coincidently read 5 times already, if you want.).
Case in point, I'm currently buying a series called 'Full Metal Panic'. volume 3 has been out for 3-4 monthes, and no news of volume 4. Why am I going to the trouble of buying them? because I got hooked on the anime thanks to the fansubs (whilst I'm at it: get a move on with the DVD of the anime, there are a lot of people who are impatient here
Think about this:
Company A spouts out 10 anime series (we'll leave crappy translation/dubbing out of the equation here), 8 flop, 2 do moderatly well (thanks to some die hards), company A decides that anime isn't worth it and stops.
Company B looks at what works with the subbers, and brings out 2 series (we'll assume that 50% buy, like you said), so realises that anime could be a good idea, brings out 2 more, same success. etc...
Conclusion: Company A and Company B have had the same amount of cash influcx, but company A spent 5 times more getting it. Company B continues to bring out anime, and everyone wins: The company: free market research, the public: good quality material they wouldn't have gotten otherwise, the subbers: the increase in interest means more feedback and more help.
Don't get me started on the state the anime scene in the West would be like without the subbing groups.
Daivd
I can't say that I whole hartedly agree, I'd compare it more to the guy who posted the Starwars kid movie taking the flic down and publishing a message sating that the joke had gone too far and requesting that others did the same (The equivalent of the request to stop distribution asap when the stuff get's liscenced that you find imprinted on all fansubs), but I'm prepared to leave it at that, and after all, it's a mater of opinion, no more, no less (the morals I mean, the Legal is for others to decide, not us).
Good evening
My apologies, I do understand that North America also containes Mexico and Canada, I just got carried away...
Everything hinges on what out-there means: if the subbing groupe didn't pull the series, then you've got a point, OTOH, if out there = KaZa, [eaiou]Mule, or standered film torrent sites, then you might as well blame DVD producers for makeing DVDs that someone will rip and put on the web...
I presume that you have no isues with the reste since you're down to that.
Anyhow, lol to the AC, and don't you think Pay 2 think is going a bit far here?
I wish you lot would just calm down a bit, it's not like you're whiter than white either, and I can't see you're problem if you're not even interested in anime.
And stop thinking that world=USA, there are lots of us in other parts of the world, and, as I stated earlier, most of the time we _never_ _ever_ get a legal release (Case in point, 9/10 of the fansub's I've watched haven't been released under any form where I live, let alone translated), so it's not like the shareholders are loosing money on this.
In short: Fansubs disapear as soon as a legal distrbution method appears, and in most cases the legal version doesn't appear at all, so there's nto much to complaine about.
David
P.S: Before you start moaning that more legal releases would appear but for fansubbing, remember that their probably wouldn't be anything like the number of manga/anime available today had it not been for the free publicity that the fansubbers provided.
The other thing the studio's would have to do, is put up a foreign orders site. The US isn't the only country benefitting from fansubs, and over here we have to wait even longer for them to come out.
Not quite, they take TV recordings of animes that aren't available in the destination country, sub them, and release them onto the net, kind of like haveing a japanese freind send you this weeks episode with a resume of what goes on.
As soon as someone in the destination country starts producing (or even state that they intend to start producing) the anime in question, it disapears without trace from the web.
The idea is to get to see footage that will probably never be translated (and in most cases isn't, especially into non english languages, France here), not to kill off the japenese film industry.
I've got loads at home, but I also have a lot of Mangas, DVD's etc that I acquired after they were (finally) released. FYI a 4 year wait isn't uncommun.
You're on the right track, but that still wouldn't cut it, due to the crackability of this kind of solution, setuid has no effect on scripts, you'd have to write a small c program to do it, or use sudo, which is much better all round.
HTH
David
OT, but I thought the Fortune cookie for this page was appropriete ;-).
If you want to know what god thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to. -- Dorthy Parker
That said, back to the story, this is cool, and it will really help people.
OTOH Let's see if the Linux community can donate (7.10^6/50.10^9) of their welth.
For those too lazy to do the math, out of 20000 (an average annual salery where I live) that comes to 2.8.....
He's talking about the FF icon, which you need to ask permission to use.
The source itself is Open, but the trademark requires a seperate liscence.
Still, I agree with you: firefox is Free