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Slackware 10.1 Released
wikinerd writes "Slackware 10.1 was released and it contains the Linux kernel 2.4.29/2.6.10, X.org X11R6.8.1, KDE 3.3.2, Mozilla 1.7.5, Xfce 4.2.0 and several other updated software, as you can see in the official changelog. You can download it right now via BitTorrent."
I personally, have no problem with the kernel choice. They shipped 2.4.26 with 10.0 as it is more stable
For Slackware users who love Gnome (like me), they can still use Dropline's Gnome distribution. It should work out of the box for Slackware 10.1 too.
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
Good news for all the slackers out there. Dispite recent issues surrounding slackware (Pats illness), Slackware has released 10.1.
I couldn't imagine Linux without Slackware. The most elegant, stable and yet simple linux i ever used. Makes me proud to say "I'm a Slacker!".
In case someone manages to /. the torrents themselves, here is an alternate location.
US is now divided as the "Red" and "blue" states. Red States = communist countries. Coincidence? I think not
For those not already in the know about MirrorDot, the non-slashdotted version is here.
Posting as AC so not karma whoring.
My cell phone has a text message which appears to offer a second date. Tonight.
Bittorrent has Slackware 10.1 ISOs. Right now.
These things cause conflict in my brain . . . . .
Only in a Slashdot fantasy can a Slackware install turn into several hours of sex . . . . .
Slackware 10.1 and still no update on Yggdrasil? Come on folks!
... all I want to know is, how's Pat doing?
He hasn't put anything in the changelog (apart from a one-liner, "I'm looking forward to working with all of you towards the next one, too"). Are things getting better? Certainly hope so.
Swaret works nicely for Slackware.
Here's a copy of the CHANGELOG, as the original seems to have been taken down:
s /slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt
http://mirror.linuxquestions.org/pub/distribution
--jeremy
(sarcasm)
"Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
--Dr.W.Edwards Deming
Patrick Volkerding, the heart and soul of Slackware is sick, and have requested that users of Slackware buy it to help cover his medical expenses.
He doesn't ask for charity, only that people who use it, actually BUY it instead of just relying on BitTorrent.
Personally I don't use Slackware, but if you are a user, you know what to do.
here is the clickable link version
Nothing, they just choose to do something differently, personnally I like having a choice, which is why I use slack. OTOH, if you don't like the choice, you don't have to use slack... try Mandrake, OSX or Windows XP, lot less choice, just IMHO a lot less flexabilitie and fun... HTH David
Ask 8 slackers a question, get 10 awnsers (a citation, but I can't remember from who)
Does it support sata out of the box yet or do I need to upgrade to the experimental 2.6.10 kernel? My hard drive is dying and I want to buy a SATA, but I'd like to avoid any unnecessary issues that this may cause.
I'm quite happy with the current package managers for slackware. Swaret seems very good for keeping yourself up-to-date, but of course, I'm yet to find a nice automated way of configuring lots of things from one place (I've never had to do this since I've only ever used 2 machines). :-)
The only reason I've had to grab tarballs and compile by hand is when I havn't managed to find a slackware package or I've wanted to play with the options to make it more hardware specific....or I just feel like it
So far I've had no problems using slackwares package managers.
Silly rabbit
Are the disks in the mail yet?
GETPKG - Package Management for Slackware
Will this mark the return of official security updates for Slackware?
I don't really trust third-party packages, which is the only thing that was available for 10.0 and a long time on current.
Once Pat got nearer to 10.1, security updates for current were available, but I can't run a development branch.
I know that Pat was sick, and I don't blame him for this at all. But I really hope that with 10.1, Slackware will reclaim its status as the distro with the best security updates.
How about if you ask 8 hackers a question you will get 1000 answers?
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
Actually, my last actual install was 9.0, and I've updated to each subsequent version using swaret and setting it to update against "current"
For more info... go to swaret.sourceforge.net
But, I'll probably buy 10.1 just to do my part in helping Pat with his bills.
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
No, but by the time you've downloaded all the updates, patches and service packs (without being pwn3d in the process), you've effectively replaced a ship-load of the kernel.
This is great news. Slack is the most important of the one man distros, and it's always a worry that something might make Pat (and Slack, by extension) topple and fall.
But this doesn't seem to be a real worry. Pat's dropped Gnome out of the core distro, which is really better for everyone - Gnome eats up huge amounts of Pat's energy, and Slack has been an Xless or KDE centric distro for a while now. Dropline Gnome is pretty sweet, so even after Gnome was included in Slack, most users I know used Dropline anyway.
Pat's made it clear that he has made plans for Slack to continue in his absence should anything happen to him, so no need to migrate my desktop just yet, and in light of Pat's recent illness the Slack community has really backed him up - and I also like seeing the third party packagers for Slack get included in the distro. It's nice seeing the Slack community gel over the recent trauma.
All in all, Slack seems as healthy as ever, even if of late, Pat hasn't been
...Right after I downloaded 10.0. Back to the Torrents for me.
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Funny, I think the reverse.
debian I have to rely on their packages. whereas the 100 slackware boxes here I can easily create the update packages on my server and then push them out to the slackware boxen almost automagically. there are great slackware auto updating apps that both are GUI based for click and drool goodness and command line that run nicely on a crontab so that every midnight all machines self update.
easier, to my specs not the debian guys specs, and I get an insane performance boost over other Linux distros because it's tailored to my users.
debian and mandrake are over 50% slower than my slack boxes, but then there's more processor available on my slack boxen because of the leanness inherent in slack.
Is it just me ?
I really think slackware linux should include some BASIC server apps like PostgreSQL, Squid, Socks5, UnrealIRCd, etc.
do you ?
I did try Mandrake PPC once, that came with 6 different kernels as I recall.
Apt-get exists for Slackware, its called slapt-get. I use it and I like it better than Swaret. http://software.jaos.org/
Coming from various distributions that use dependencies on their packages (RedHat, Debian, Conectiva) I got some problems trying to customize some software. And with Slackware my life is getting more easy now, God save Patrick and maintain Slackwares "Free Dependencies".
http://www.michel.eti.br
BUY this release to show your support for Patrick's work and to help with his medical bills. While it is great to download it and forget about his health state, please remember hes still not out of the woods health-wise.
thanks
I'm wondering if I should bother upgrading to a *.1 release. I'm running slack 10.0 with 2.6.8 kernel, and I already upgraded kde to 3.3.2 (s10.0 came with 3.2). Is the benefit worth the effort of an upgrade, or should I wait for slackware 11 with some really big updates? I love slackware and want to support the project, but I just got my slack box just how I like it, and am reluctant to bork the whole thing.
The days of the digital watch are numbered.
Slapt-get works even better than swaret. Swaret doesn't do basic error checking. Check their forums for accounts of /etc being removed.
There are two apt-get like systems for Slackware: Swaret, and slapt-get (which I prefer, and is very much like apt-get)
Both of the package managers can be pointed to stable or current ftp/http mirrors, have rudimentary dependancy checkers (not as good as on Deb, or Rpm, but may be it's for the better)
There is also a manual package management tool (a la rpm -i pack.rpm) Check out linuxpackages.net with an immense number of packages precompiled for often 3-4 generations of Slackware. Average time from release of a software package, to its appearance on the linuxpackages.net is about one day. You can download and upgradepkg pkgname.tgz.
The neat part is, no matter what package manager you use, the installed package database is centralized and is always up-to-date.
So far the only problem I encoutered while using package managers on Slackware is when there was the switch in X config file from keyboard to kbd (ir something like that) the X didn't function for many as it should as the config file didn't change automagically.
back in the day, I actually wrote a little shell script that got put on all the machines I rolled out. It basically wget'ed files from a server and ran a script relating to the version of slackware on the machine. I would still have to manually tell each machine to start, but it was a lot easier than recompiling ssl/ssh everytime something new came out. /also a Slack user since 1996
Check out my sysadmin blog!
Translation:
"I like KDE better than GNOME. I see that you don't. Why on Earth don't you stop punishing yourself and just follow my viewpoint instead of your own?"
Why not use KDE? Well, why is your favorite color your favorite color? It's called personal opinion, putz!
I have online banking and I set it up to send Slackware $5 every paycheck.
By the end of the year, Patrick gets $120 from me (more than he would with subscriptions) and since it's only $5 per paycheck so I don't even notice.
(Then I download the images with BitTorrent and save him a little money on mailing and the disks).
Your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
KDE looks bad. To me.
Gnome looks good. To me.
That would be enough. For me.
KDE feels like win. To me.
Gnome doesn't. To me.
KDE - _I_ don't know its shortcuts.
Gnome - _I_ do.
KDE - is not GNU.
Gnome - is GNU (well, maybe for most people that's bad, but for me it's great)
That's enough, for me, to keep using Gnome.
If dropline fails to satisfy me, maybe I will give a try to Debian, or that ubuntu thing, although I am very fond of Slackware, since 3.x.
And, about that FOSS thingy, I don't mind open source, the only part of it I care about is freedom.
It's not a technical thing, but it's important.
It's good though, for KDE, that next QT is going to be free for windows too, so now free KDE apps have a chance to be multiplatform.
what kind of modern linux distribution doesn't include GNOME?
One that has recognized the quality that has come out of another project that provides the same desktop. Pat decided that Dropline was so nice, and there were so many people using Dropline Gnome that it wasn't worth his time anymore to package a vanilla Gnome.
"I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
>>> So, this verson is going to be wrapped up pretty quickly. I hope people will support the release, because I'm sure I'll have a lot more bills before all of this is through, and I'm blowing through what little money I've managed to save. >>>>
It's a shame that someone who is delivering real benefit to people could be crippled by health costs in one of the wealthiest and most powerful nations in the world. Bullets or bandages people?
First time slackware user here, I have 10.0 installed on a box, and want to go to 10.1. What is the easiest way to upgrade? Download CD and run upgrade script?
'Go for the eyes, Boo, go for the eyes, aaarrrrrrrr!' -- Minsc
"what kind of modern linux distribution doesn't include GNOME?"
a good one ??!
You don't really need to grab the latest and greatest slack. Now, speaking
strictly for myself, most of my boxes are 7.0, 8.x era, but I have all the
latest and greatest improvements. A lot of people seem to take Slack's lack of
package dependancy tracking (different from lack of package management) as a
negative, but I have always viewed it as a plus. You don't have to have the
latest and greatest slackware to have the latest and greatest slackware, if you
guys take my meaning.
Long live slackware!
SealBeater
-- Its survival of the fittest...and we got the fucking guns!!!
try swaret
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Follow the upgrade instructions in the CD :-P
Basically, it is:
First upgrade package tools and glibc with upgradepkg.
Then, upgrade everything else.
slackupdate.sh script also allows upgrading, while swaret/slapt-get seem to be more sophisticated (I didn't use them).
Got Pike?
once you go slack, you never go back
That was *BSD and *LSD.
Why don't they make available a DVD image, either on the distros or in the Slackware Store?
Ads? What ads?
-- $SIGNATURE
I think we all need to support free software projects. I personally paid money to get the original Slackware 10 CDs from the Slackware Store and I have put some Slackware propaganda on my site. You can also buy t-shirts from their store or join them and report bugs. Another way to help is to show ZipSlack to your friends, if they still use Windows, so that they can familiarise themselves with a GNU/Linux system without repartitioning their disk. You can also subscribe and get Slackware CDs whenever they release a new version.
You can also find more info on how to support free software projects in general by reading this FAQ.
open4free © : i don't need Visual .NET & Rational Rose.
Ok, I came up with this really dumb (good?) idea. See, I'm just about broke. I'd love to support Slackware as it's my favorite distribution I've been using since about 1997.
... where it took less than an hour to grab all 4 isos. I'll leave it running all night. My uploads are fluctuating anywhere from 100-400KB/sec (bytes), and disc 4 has already thrown out 1.2 gigs!
... I'm going to let mine go until about 8am EST tomarrow morning so that poor guy in CA who downloads Slack tonight at 2am doesn't only receive 1.2KB/sec.
... not bad for a little mini itx machine!
I kinda grumbled that the only way to get them was through bittorrent, and we all know how dumb lopsided home-internet connections are. My upload is 1/16th of my download bandwidth, so downloading the isos here at home might choke my uplink for my voip service (even with QoS).
So then I got thinking... there's 3 major ISPs in the area... I work at one, have another at home and have friends at the third, where I have a colo'd slack 9.1 (with updates) box. They don't peg me for bandwidth either... the machine will melt before I get a bandwidth bill (or so we'll find out, hope they don't read this!).
So I've decided to have my first Slackware Seedifesto (hey my dumb idea, I can make up dumb words)
It's the only slightly-unlimited resource I have... I'd encourage anyone else with nice connections to do the same
The protocol is out there. Slashdot Effect + Bittorrent = A whole heck of allotta slack.
I think the max I have is about 1.5Mbytes/sec (that was incoming)
FLR
I would assume he uses Dropline GNOME either to make sure that it runs on the latest changes he's made to Slackware, or just for the sense of completeness. I know that I myself don't like -not- being able to choose which desktop environment I feel like. I just got KDE 3.3.2 finished up here on my AMD64 Gentoo, but I switch back and forth to whichever suits my tastes for the time being.
As for all the stuff about why PAM is against Slackware's ideals, I'll have to check that out, because I don't see what the big deal is, not that I know a whole lot about -what- PAM does exactly. One thing's for sure, Dropline GNOME has always beat the hell out of the GNOME that shipped with Slack, against Slack's ideals or not.
"We invented personal computing." - Bill Gates
Slackware is PAM-free because PAM is a buggy, poorly thought-out, difficult to configure, security nightmare.
By avoiding PAM, Slackware avoids all of the security problems associated with it (and yes, there *have* been real problems, such as the OpenSSH 3.7 root exploit - Slackware was not vulnerable to it, but almost every other Linux distro was.)
Slackware's insistence on using only vanilla kernels means that both kernel choices are affected by the recent do_brk vulnerability.
you mean 1024?
I use Slack as my prime distro ... however I like KDE. What am I supposed to bitch about ...? :0)