I have a hard time imagining someone who has a workflow that includes large amounts of important content that pushes it out in Flash, and can't invest in taking that same content and migrating it to HTML5/CSS3.
Why bother? 80% of flash is simply video, and the iPhone supports sites like YouTube already without supporting Flash. The 20% that's simple animation can be done just as easily in HTML5/CSS3.
I keep missing what great Flash applications people need ported to their iPhones.
Say Apple releases new API's you want to use in your app. Here's what you do as an Xcode coder:
1) Download the new Xcode with new API's 2) Modify your code to use new API's 3) Recompile 4) Submit to store
Here's what you do if you want to use new capabilities from your Flash app:
1) Wait for Adobe to download new XCode 2) Wait for Adobe to use new hooks in code and expose them to you in new functions. 3) Buy new version of Flash development. 4) Modify your code 5) Export as iPhone app 6) Submit to store
I would rather have to code in Objective-C than wait for and have to buy a new version of Adobe Flash, just to get the capabilities made available by Apple's Xcode.
Interesting, but that's a whole different OS, not Android or iPhone.
It looks like they may have been ahead of their time in some ways, but I don't see a huge ground swell of development (400 people at the 2009 developer's conference?).
Is there a future in Maemo? Or will Nokia just switch to Android?
Yeah, it's just a pet peeve of mine. One of the reasons why the the iphone OS is making inroads into all of these niche areas is the availability of cheap contract-free iPod touch devices. As a developer this makes a lot of sense.
From a marketing perspective, however, it is much more attractive to put out devices that require phone contracts, because it's a long-term revenue stream.
If google really wants to grow android market share, they have to address this need, or force their partners to address it.
I recently worked on a project where the client company gave over 1,000 iPod touches to their salespeople loaded with info they needed. The salespeople didn't need phones. They have phones. They needed the information in a timely fashion in a tool they could easily update and manage.
The consumer version is supposed to have less risk of clot and burn. I wonder if there's a reason why they issue you a more powerful/dangerous version.
Slashdoters may be smart folk, but as for predicting what technology will become established, we have a pretty bad track record. Especially concerning Apple.
My two leading theories are:
1) Slashdot is a very skewed sample of the general population, but like most skewed samples, thinks it is typical.
2) Slashdotters secretly have a crush on Apple and want to take it behind the firehouse and get it pregnant.
I see it as a rise of the Many-to-Many relationship.
Amazon suggestions, Netflix movies. Facebook.
The many-to-many relationship, long overlooked in database construction because of the complexities it brings with it, has now come onto it's own and is changing our lives.
You know folks here seems to have a secret crush on Apple. Sure you tease it, but only because you want to kiss it and get it pregnant behind the firehouse.
I do think it's funny that you complain about the lack of Flash support in the iPhone at the same time you say it's a closed garden that you wouldn't want to play in anyway.
And every time I ask people what Flash piece they need to run on their mobile device, they always say the same thing: Video
Well guess what? No only does the iPhone support great h.264 video, sites like YouTube, NYT, and Facebook are transcoding to it, and it looks BETTER than those sites look in Flash on the desktop, using only a tiny fraction of the processing power.
Run any HTML5 app you want on your phone. Anything.
Download the FREE development tools and create your own app. Join the Dev program ($99) and distribute your app to 50 of your friends for FREE with no review by Apple.
Put your source code on the internet so ANYONE can compile your app and put it on their device, and up to 50 of their friends.
Submit your polished app to the app store, and apple will take care of distributing it, promoting it, managing updates, and if you decide to charge, collecting the money and sending you a check with your profits.
I fail to see how this isn't a good deal for users and developers.
I agree with you, and I'm not all read up on the case, but I have to disagree with #2.
Your login is, in many respects, an electronic signature. This system obviously had lots of logging and checking going on. Giving his login and p/w to someone else is a bad idea, especially if you think the whole mess is going to end up in a courtroom.
What he SHOULD have done (IMHO) is create a login with equal access, and given the credentials to his boss, the mayor, the police, etc., and then let THEM, the more qualified people decide who should get the information.
This way he upholds his obligations to his workplace, and passes the liability to someone better qualified to make the decision.
Pretending that HE was the most qualified person to decide who got access seems to be where he went wrong.
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What kind of apps are you building? Have links?
Simple.
Those people pick up a book on HTML5/CSS3.
Like who?
I have a hard time imagining someone who has a workflow that includes large amounts of important content that pushes it out in Flash, and can't invest in taking that same content and migrating it to HTML5/CSS3.
Why bother? 80% of flash is simply video, and the iPhone supports sites like YouTube already without supporting Flash. The 20% that's simple animation can be done just as easily in HTML5/CSS3.
I keep missing what great Flash applications people need ported to their iPhones.
You can debate stability and security, but Flash is a performance hog, HTML5 isn't.
Say Apple releases new API's you want to use in your app. Here's what you do as an Xcode coder:
1) Download the new Xcode with new API's
2) Modify your code to use new API's
3) Recompile
4) Submit to store
Here's what you do if you want to use new capabilities from your Flash app:
1) Wait for Adobe to download new XCode
2) Wait for Adobe to use new hooks in code and expose them to you in new functions.
3) Buy new version of Flash development.
4) Modify your code
5) Export as iPhone app
6) Submit to store
I would rather have to code in Objective-C than wait for and have to buy a new version of Adobe Flash, just to get the capabilities made available by Apple's Xcode.
The first day, what you need to do, is find the biggest, smartest, most awesome software developer they have... and kick his ass.
No one will screw with you after that.
Interesting, but that's a whole different OS, not Android or iPhone.
It looks like they may have been ahead of their time in some ways, but I don't see a huge ground swell of development (400 people at the 2009 developer's conference?).
Is there a future in Maemo? Or will Nokia just switch to Android?
Yeah, it's just a pet peeve of mine. One of the reasons why the the iphone OS is making inroads into all of these niche areas is the availability of cheap contract-free iPod touch devices. As a developer this makes a lot of sense.
From a marketing perspective, however, it is much more attractive to put out devices that require phone contracts, because it's a long-term revenue stream.
If google really wants to grow android market share, they have to address this need, or force their partners to address it.
I recently worked on a project where the client company gave over 1,000 iPod touches to their salespeople loaded with info they needed. The salespeople didn't need phones. They have phones. They needed the information in a timely fashion in a tool they could easily update and manage.
Sounds like a job for an iPod touch, not an iPhone.
A great use for a 200 dollar piece of equipment that has no contract.
Hey Goole, can you give us a variety of contract-free touch-like devices?
The consumer version is supposed to have less risk of clot and burn. I wonder if there's a reason why they issue you a more powerful/dangerous version.
Sounds like a fancy-scmancy version of Quikclot, the powder you can pour on a wound to form an instant clot.
Not only is it widely used, you can buy it for your own first aid kit from Amazon and others.
Anyone? Anyone?
Yeah, I agree.
Slashdoters may be smart folk, but as for predicting what technology will become established, we have a pretty bad track record. Especially concerning Apple.
My two leading theories are:
1) Slashdot is a very skewed sample of the general population, but like most skewed samples, thinks it is typical.
2) Slashdotters secretly have a crush on Apple and want to take it behind the firehouse and get it pregnant.
No idea which is the truth.
Correction: My post is rated "5, Interesting" not "4, Interesting". Please check your facts before posting.
I see it as a rise of the Many-to-Many relationship.
Amazon suggestions, Netflix movies. Facebook.
The many-to-many relationship, long overlooked in database construction because of the complexities it brings with it, has now come onto it's own and is changing our lives.
I just kind of assumed with all those bashing the iPhone for not supporting Flash that Android did it out of the box.
Is there any mobile that supports full Flash well?
Unless Flash 10.1 includes a Time Machine feature, there's a big flaw in your argument.
So if they allowed you to distribute your apps any way you wanted, you would become a fan overnight?
Not likely.
Their app distribution model isn't the real reason you dislike Apple.
I tend to agree.
I don't see this as one of our own being unjustly persecuted.
I see bad behavior combined with a smug sense of self-importance causing real damage and being properly punished for it.
The real question is later, after he finishes whatever jail/house arrest/probation period, who will hire him?
Will those that defend him here find a way to bring him onboard at their organizations?
You know folks here seems to have a secret crush on Apple. Sure you tease it, but only because you want to kiss it and get it pregnant behind the firehouse.
I do think it's funny that you complain about the lack of Flash support in the iPhone at the same time you say it's a closed garden that you wouldn't want to play in anyway.
And every time I ask people what Flash piece they need to run on their mobile device, they always say the same thing: Video
Well guess what? No only does the iPhone support great h.264 video, sites like YouTube, NYT, and Facebook are transcoding to it, and it looks BETTER than those sites look in Flash on the desktop, using only a tiny fraction of the processing power.
Run any HTML5 app you want on your phone. Anything.
Download the FREE development tools and create your own app. Join the Dev program ($99) and distribute your app to 50 of your friends for FREE with no review by Apple.
Put your source code on the internet so ANYONE can compile your app and put it on their device, and up to 50 of their friends.
Submit your polished app to the app store, and apple will take care of distributing it, promoting it, managing updates, and if you decide to charge, collecting the money and sending you a check with your profits.
I fail to see how this isn't a good deal for users and developers.
I agree with you, and I'm not all read up on the case, but I have to disagree with #2.
Your login is, in many respects, an electronic signature. This system obviously had lots of logging and checking going on. Giving his login and p/w to someone else is a bad idea, especially if you think the whole mess is going to end up in a courtroom.
What he SHOULD have done (IMHO) is create a login with equal access, and given the credentials to his boss, the mayor, the police, etc., and then let THEM, the more qualified people decide who should get the information.
This way he upholds his obligations to his workplace, and passes the liability to someone better qualified to make the decision.
Pretending that HE was the most qualified person to decide who got access seems to be where he went wrong.
That's a stupid waste of time.
I'm still trying to figure out why a bunch of people who obviously loath Apple products spend so much time discussing them.
For a company you say you folks hate so much, why does Apple get so much air time?