mmmmm soup, yeah, there is a lot of evidence that suggest massive mutation/evolution can occur when there is a sharp rise in Co2. Maybe God was going for a stroll on some mountain and exhaled causing all this.
I agree, in fact, if you follow the first premise that there is a God figure and not an idea then you can say that God created nature and all the rules to go with it. Could he/she then not have created the environment in such a way as to generate a desired outcome? That would be considered natural. Many things are considered natural processes and are presumed to be law until we figure it out. Cloud seeding is a great example of this. We can force the clouds to rain. Is the water any less natural? You are doing the exact same thing that causes normal clouds to rain.
At any rate, I have a hard time calling anything a miracle because my definition of miracle is something positive that happened for an unknown reason. If you know the reason then you were probably actively engaged in the process so I wouldn't call it a miracle.
My HP laptop survived a fall in the airport, 3 or 4 feet from the top of the table they were inspecting it from to the bottom of the concrete floor. (Place was under construction at the time)
It worked after the fall, not even scratch. That was two years ago so please stop making baseless accusations about product quality.
Apple has had all of the same problems with the engineering of their cases. Remember the Cube coming out cracked?
I am not saying Apple hardware is shoddy in the least and I'll add that every PC I have ever built in my 8 years of doing so is still in use and still functional. That's about 50 machines. Some have been upgrade to the point where only the case is the same. Not all PC makers don't take the time to build quality machines. You seem to be comparing Apple with HP or Gateway which I would find odd. Why would you pair a mid range maker with a budget PC maker? Perhaps you feel all PCs are the same? At any rate, when I installed XP and 2003 on workstations and servers a like they all ran faster on the same hardware in much the same fashion you describe with OS X.
Please stop perpetuating lies or misconceptions about an entire platform which happens to have 90%+ market share for desktop systems. There is a reason you know and its not marketing, that only works for a single generation of computers.
Considering they are buying brand new G4s I can say that they will not hold their value as older ones did. I did look on Ebay and PCs of the same age are about the same price, actually a little less because they come with an OS because they are not allowed to transfer a Windows license but this discussion was about using Linux so the issue is moot.
I think you think because its a G4 is must be old . If you look at the listing where the machines are actually used and a few years old their prices drop dramatically, just like what happens with a PC. There is a reason the IRS doesn't distinguish between the two. After Three years they are worth $1 as a tax deducation for a business expense.
Since you seem to think they do hold their value the question would be why? What's makes them special if they are using all the same parts? Can't argue the OS angle because they are buying the computers because they are Macs, they are buying them to be terminals for their custom apps which could quite easily run on Linux or even Windws.
I would charge you with that task since you are the one who started the argument.
Also, I can buy hdds in units of 50-500, even 1000 no problem. I am covered under an enterprise warranty. If a drive goes bad I ship it off to Maxtor or whoever I choose to go with after learning the environment they will live. Its not different from any other setting where you buy the computer whole. You're argument over space is irrelevent as well since there are both monitors and cases designed to be like Macs. If you assume the software is free and the computers themselves cost less then where do you figure Macs cost less in any run. Seriously, the argument has been made they use the same types of components so how would a new G4 or G5 hold its value compared to a normal PC? It won't, Apple gave that up when they stopped using scsi in all their machines.
As for numbers on the support agreements, they would be useless since such a thing would rely on information I don't have, such as, do they want the support team to manage the hardware as well? Do they want the support team to ensure upgrades are done when a new product is available? Depending on their needs the price will change a lot. But its still a hell of a lot less than the cost of a support call to Apple.
I can say the same thing about the thousands of Windows machines I've administered over the years. If you're going to do a job, do it right. I've had Linux boxes and Macs break on me, then I learned more and set them up properly.
So yep, whoever installs it doesn't know what they're doing
Are you under the impression software and thus the hardware requirements don't change over time?
In most corporate or enterprise systems the machines are replaced every two years not because they are going bad but because they are going off warranty and new cheaper better hardware is available.
Last I checked support agreements could be bought bought from SuSE, Red Hat, Mandrake, and yep, there are consulting folks who specialize in Debian.
Also, since when does off the shelf hardware not have a warranty?
Seriously, something like this is planned, they can buy in bulk and it is most definitely less expensive both in the short term and long term. There is no comparison on price so find another point to argue
Both are being dragged out. Albeit, copyrights more successfully but there is a debate going on right now to extend patents as well. It will happen assuming research doesn't continue to get banned in U.S.
Ironic new stem cell research cannot be conducted int he U.S. so the Pentagon pays for it to be done in Switzerland among other places. Nice to see government money well spent, too bad its not on researchers willing to do it here.
Because maybe you entered a contract with the manufacturer? I'd say that would guarantee you get a piece of the pie.
There is plenty of incentive to invent things without a 70 year copyright. Back when it was 10 years that argument would be valid. Right now a copyright doesn't serve its intended purpose since it still screws somebody. It was originally designed to allow everyone to benefit from an advance while giving the inventor compensation. During the earlier years if you invented something you'd keep inventing and not just live off your patent for the rest of your life.
Security inherently relies on something being obscured. The goal is to make it as difficult as possible to find the obscured material. Unless the knock sequence changes per session its nothing that couldn't be recorded. For a great number of people this is a completely unnecessary service but for those that don't want to publicly serve it is a great tool.
I agree it could be made into a layer of security. It is promising technology since you could conceivably use certificates or some other digital signature as a private key and use the it to generate a proper knock sequence. If PKI gets added to the mix the passknock would change every session.
This is just a proof of concept implementation. When we review one that is a commercial implementation my opinion will change.
On a side note, something I actually like about Office 2003. You can strip out any non W3C compliant code and force Word to be a standards compliant editor but there is no HTML involved so you're definitely right, its not an HTML editor.
As a web developer myself the only times I change extensions are when I'm converting formats. Often times I am given a psd which I proceed to cut up into sometimes hundreds of jpgs and gifs. Spose that's because I'm fortunate and work with people that know what they're doing. Doesn't sound like its the same everywhere.
Maybe she should use a different mouse. The fact is, she wouldn't know what to type unless instructed. There's no mechanism to show the user what is available until you teach them ls and man. Even man falls short because you have to know the name of the app you want help with. A lot of people don't know what netfilter is for instance.
I might also add that it doesn't sound like your mother is an average computer user or even a newbie as I've seen six year old kids from China that have never used a computer look at a mouse, move it to see what happens on the screen and within a few minutes they are off getting into word processors, spreadsheets, generally applications that makes sense to them on paper.
Typing in a path is not the same thing as typing in a command. And it is definitely not easier for anyone not already familiar with how the file system is organized. Think you going through the hundreds of the thousands of files and directories I have in my 16 terabyte array. It would be a lot easier and not to mention faster to look at the directories and read the comments to the left to figure out where everything is. Of course, it would be even easier to search but depending on the content that isn't always possible nor an acceptable use of time.
I also never said in my previous post that the mouse was at all faster. I said it was easier. A lot of people confuse the two. I can write a sql join 50 tables wide by 5 databases tall quite quickly, but its far from easy because I have to make sure all the relationships are aligned. In such a situation it is also faster to use a GUI which already knows all the relationships.
Also, I'm not sure where you figure my typing was done with a mouse. Sounds to be like someone is either confused or making assumptions about a person making a statement because he can't come up with an argument.
Now, extensions, why the hell would you change an extension? Seriously, I know there are situations where an AVI gets renamed as an MPG because some idiot wants to create a link to his page when the file is viewed but realistically this does not happen to a large number of people. Plus, I am always sure that I typed the extension properly because I have an icon and in some places thumbnails that show what the file is. It is also quite easy to change the extension. Should it be in the default state then it is three clicks to fix the problem for good.
It also sounds like you've got a slow computer, possibly antique if the GUI has to spend any time rendering the directory structure. Or maybe all your data is in an array of chaos in which case. I wish the best of luck to you in your endeavors.
Hit F3 in Windows from the desktop and you can do all that from the GUI. The alternate path is the start menu and click search. It is more than capable of all those search terms, pretty much for the last 7 or more years Windows has had that its base install and if you happen to have Office they give you some more options like searching for Who Authored what document on what machine.
In general you're right about a GUI which is in my opinion why the cli is still around. There are things that you can't do reasonly because there would be too many options on the screen. Avid is a great example of how this can go wrong but it is also an example of how it can go right because pretty well anyone can build transitions and splice videos together with it because its all drag and drop. Everything is the same motion.
There are situations when both are more appropriate. Configuring Samba with a GUI for instance is almost always a mistake. Doesn't mean it will always be one, they will get better and soon enough the graphical tools will perform all the tasks most people need. It's the greatest good for the greatest people, and since the cli is still there in the background, those that would be hurt by it are not.
Its funny because I mentioed that concern already. Mechanisms could be put in place to ensure the digital signature wasn't compromised, plus you don't need a password in the traditional sense. A challenge response type of authentication is far superior.
Yeah, but I'm thinking big, what if they have several thousands warrants come in at once from say the RIAA. Seems like that would take a bit of human resources although I have no doubt the search capabilities are there.
At any rate, its not a service that would be as open to abuse as a lot of people think it would be. I definitely could be wrong. When you have a million people using it I can see things changing a bit.
Filtering email based on encryption type could also be a trust base. Like you're brother uses stronger encryption and therefore you can trust that it is him and open the email without thinking about what's attached.
The question is, if you make it easier for applications to encrypt data then won't the worms just grab an API and encrypt those emails and the result is the same as before encryption and the loss of millions of cpu cycles?
Just a question, I've thought about setting up my entire family with PGP, then I setup my own mail server and they all just connect to it. Its a lot easier and its still encrypted since these days you can only send smtp through a vpn tunnel.
Right click, copy, right click paste when you get where you going. The point holds because you are doing the exact same type of task as you did when you mounted a new drive. The commands are no different, they are purely contextual which is a lot easier for anybody to learn.
There are many times when a cli can make a task faster but I've yet to see a time when it can make a task easier.
I do trust Google to do what they say they are doing. I often wonder of the legal side-effects of an archiving service like this. Many ISPs don't keep logs any long than 30 days on a pure logistics standpoint. Its easier to be able to say the records don't exist that it is to produce 10 year old emails.
Of course, Google knows content management so maybe they are fully prepared to handle the flood of subpoenas and the likes.
Last I checked this was common practice for Mandrake since 8.0. Annoyed the hell out of me because of dependency hell getting everything installed just so I could compile anything.
I don't see this is a problem, advanced users should be doing a custom install where they can select GCC, autoconf, and automake and the likes and they could even uncheck the Games if they so desired.
Its a default install, of course its going to have defaults you don't like. This has been a complaint of Windows since the get go. I'd say this is an argument for the original post about usability breaking security because you have to open the system up. The easier you make it, the easier it will be to turn something on that shouldn't.
That said this is news to be about Fedora, I was going to install it and see how it is but I chose to install Gentoo instead which turned out to be a mistake considering the mirror I was downloading from gave me all corrupt kernel headers. mmmmmmm
Sorry, but learning to click a mouse is a lot easier than learning "mount -t ntfs/dev/hdc1/mnt/windows"
Don't forget the ole favorite from Gentoo stage 2 installs. "/sbin/lilo -C/etc/lilo.conf"
None of that is remotely friendly especially considering it is all something I could do in Windows only using a mouse. Two or Three buttons is a hell of a lot simpler than 104+
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I agree, in fact, if you follow the first premise that there is a God figure and not an idea then you can say that God created nature and all the rules to go with it. Could he/she then not have created the environment in such a way as to generate a desired outcome? That would be considered natural. Many things are considered natural processes and are presumed to be law until we figure it out. Cloud seeding is a great example of this. We can force the clouds to rain. Is the water any less natural? You are doing the exact same thing that causes normal clouds to rain.
At any rate, I have a hard time calling anything a miracle because my definition of miracle is something positive that happened for an unknown reason. If you know the reason then you were probably actively engaged in the process so I wouldn't call it a miracle.It worked after the fall, not even scratch. That was two years ago so please stop making baseless accusations about product quality.
Apple has had all of the same problems with the engineering of their cases. Remember the Cube coming out cracked?I am not saying Apple hardware is shoddy in the least and I'll add that every PC I have ever built in my 8 years of doing so is still in use and still functional. That's about 50 machines. Some have been upgrade to the point where only the case is the same. Not all PC makers don't take the time to build quality machines. You seem to be comparing Apple with HP or Gateway which I would find odd. Why would you pair a mid range maker with a budget PC maker? Perhaps you feel all PCs are the same? At any rate, when I installed XP and 2003 on workstations and servers a like they all ran faster on the same hardware in much the same fashion you describe with OS X.
Please stop perpetuating lies or misconceptions about an entire platform which happens to have 90%+ market share for desktop systems. There is a reason you know and its not marketing, that only works for a single generation of computers.I don't like my first paragraph either but oh well
I think you think because its a G4 is must be old . If you look at the listing where the machines are actually used and a few years old their prices drop dramatically, just like what happens with a PC. There is a reason the IRS doesn't distinguish between the two. After Three years they are worth $1 as a tax deducation for a business expense.
Since you seem to think they do hold their value the question would be why? What's makes them special if they are using all the same parts? Can't argue the OS angle because they are buying the computers because they are Macs, they are buying them to be terminals for their custom apps which could quite easily run on Linux or even Windws.Also, I can buy hdds in units of 50-500, even 1000 no problem. I am covered under an enterprise warranty. If a drive goes bad I ship it off to Maxtor or whoever I choose to go with after learning the environment they will live. Its not different from any other setting where you buy the computer whole. You're argument over space is irrelevent as well since there are both monitors and cases designed to be like Macs. If you assume the software is free and the computers themselves cost less then where do you figure Macs cost less in any run. Seriously, the argument has been made they use the same types of components so how would a new G4 or G5 hold its value compared to a normal PC? It won't, Apple gave that up when they stopped using scsi in all their machines.
As for numbers on the support agreements, they would be useless since such a thing would rely on information I don't have, such as, do they want the support team to manage the hardware as well? Do they want the support team to ensure upgrades are done when a new product is available? Depending on their needs the price will change a lot. But its still a hell of a lot less than the cost of a support call to Apple.
So yep, whoever installs it doesn't know what they're doing
In most corporate or enterprise systems the machines are replaced every two years not because they are going bad but because they are going off warranty and new cheaper better hardware is available.
Also, since when does off the shelf hardware not have a warranty?
Seriously, something like this is planned, they can buy in bulk and it is most definitely less expensive both in the short term and long term. There is no comparison on price so find another point to argueIronic new stem cell research cannot be conducted int he U.S. so the Pentagon pays for it to be done in Switzerland among other places. Nice to see government money well spent, too bad its not on researchers willing to do it here.
There is plenty of incentive to invent things without a 70 year copyright. Back when it was 10 years that argument would be valid. Right now a copyright doesn't serve its intended purpose since it still screws somebody. It was originally designed to allow everyone to benefit from an advance while giving the inventor compensation. During the earlier years if you invented something you'd keep inventing and not just live off your patent for the rest of your life.
Security inherently relies on something being obscured. The goal is to make it as difficult as possible to find the obscured material. Unless the knock sequence changes per session its nothing that couldn't be recorded. For a great number of people this is a completely unnecessary service but for those that don't want to publicly serve it is a great tool.
This is just a proof of concept implementation. When we review one that is a commercial implementation my opinion will change.
Definitely, it is purely a layer of obscurity, not security. A very nice benefit though.
As a web developer myself the only times I change extensions are when I'm converting formats. Often times I am given a psd which I proceed to cut up into sometimes hundreds of jpgs and gifs. Spose that's because I'm fortunate and work with people that know what they're doing. Doesn't sound like its the same everywhere.
I might also add that it doesn't sound like your mother is an average computer user or even a newbie as I've seen six year old kids from China that have never used a computer look at a mouse, move it to see what happens on the screen and within a few minutes they are off getting into word processors, spreadsheets, generally applications that makes sense to them on paper.
A mouse that works for most peopleI also never said in my previous post that the mouse was at all faster. I said it was easier. A lot of people confuse the two. I can write a sql join 50 tables wide by 5 databases tall quite quickly, but its far from easy because I have to make sure all the relationships are aligned. In such a situation it is also faster to use a GUI which already knows all the relationships.
Also, I'm not sure where you figure my typing was done with a mouse. Sounds to be like someone is either confused or making assumptions about a person making a statement because he can't come up with an argument.Now, extensions, why the hell would you change an extension? Seriously, I know there are situations where an AVI gets renamed as an MPG because some idiot wants to create a link to his page when the file is viewed but realistically this does not happen to a large number of people. Plus, I am always sure that I typed the extension properly because I have an icon and in some places thumbnails that show what the file is. It is also quite easy to change the extension. Should it be in the default state then it is three clicks to fix the problem for good.
It also sounds like you've got a slow computer, possibly antique if the GUI has to spend any time rendering the directory structure. Or maybe all your data is in an array of chaos in which case. I wish the best of luck to you in your endeavors.In general you're right about a GUI which is in my opinion why the cli is still around. There are things that you can't do reasonly because there would be too many options on the screen. Avid is a great example of how this can go wrong but it is also an example of how it can go right because pretty well anyone can build transitions and splice videos together with it because its all drag and drop. Everything is the same motion.
There are situations when both are more appropriate. Configuring Samba with a GUI for instance is almost always a mistake. Doesn't mean it will always be one, they will get better and soon enough the graphical tools will perform all the tasks most people need. It's the greatest good for the greatest people, and since the cli is still there in the background, those that would be hurt by it are not.Its funny because I mentioed that concern already. Mechanisms could be put in place to ensure the digital signature wasn't compromised, plus you don't need a password in the traditional sense. A challenge response type of authentication is far superior.
At any rate, its not a service that would be as open to abuse as a lot of people think it would be. I definitely could be wrong. When you have a million people using it I can see things changing a bit.
Amazing how easy that happens. I guess I say That a lot more than Thanks, haha
Filtering email based on encryption type could also be a trust base. Like you're brother uses stronger encryption and therefore you can trust that it is him and open the email without thinking about what's attached.
The question is, if you make it easier for applications to encrypt data then won't the worms just grab an API and encrypt those emails and the result is the same as before encryption and the loss of millions of cpu cycles?Just a question, I've thought about setting up my entire family with PGP, then I setup my own mail server and they all just connect to it. Its a lot easier and its still encrypted since these days you can only send smtp through a vpn tunnel.
There are many times when a cli can make a task faster but I've yet to see a time when it can make a task easier.
Of course, Google knows content management so maybe they are fully prepared to handle the flood of subpoenas and the likes.
I don't see this is a problem, advanced users should be doing a custom install where they can select GCC, autoconf, and automake and the likes and they could even uncheck the Games if they so desired.
Its a default install, of course its going to have defaults you don't like. This has been a complaint of Windows since the get go. I'd say this is an argument for the original post about usability breaking security because you have to open the system up. The easier you make it, the easier it will be to turn something on that shouldn't.That said this is news to be about Fedora, I was going to install it and see how it is but I chose to install Gentoo instead which turned out to be a mistake considering the mirror I was downloading from gave me all corrupt kernel headers. mmmmmmm
None of that is remotely friendly especially considering it is all something I could do in Windows only using a mouse. Two or Three buttons is a hell of a lot simpler than 104+